This isn't a Photoshop Killer, this isn't iPhoto for Professionals. This is for professional photographers (National Geographic, TIME, etc) who want to manipulate many or one image at a time. You don't use this program to browse your pictures, or simple things like crop. Neither do you create images from scratch.
samk wrote, "Nice app. The gray transparent windows remind me of Vista. Serious. :p"Does it, this is what the Apple Pro line of software look like, FCP, DVD Studio, Motion, Shake, heck even Logic Pro. I'm not sure what Vista looks like, but shipping products from Apple versus vaporware Vista makes me think the xerox machines are working at MS. ;)
'Fancy RAW image editing goodness is a fine use of 64 bit processing. Good move Apple.'Web weasel what does that mean when Mac go to Intel 32Bit processing?Hmmmmm...
This looks like a step in the right direction. I definitely think the iPhoto for professionals remark is on target. As far as I can tell, it really isn't much of an editing software at all, though the important retouching tools are there. I like the idea of added version control with it... I wonder if we'll ever see an Aperture Server come out. It would be great to have the ability to work simultaniously on multiple computers all connected to the same data store. I think one thing that would be very helpful to it would be if software like photoshop could be made "Aperture Aware." I.E. understanding the changes that aperture makes to the images. So that if I make a change to the white balance of the image, Photoshop or whatever other image editing software I'm using would see that as well. Right now, it looks like when an image is opened in an editor, the editor is just fed raster image data and nothing more. I could certainly be wrong about that, though.
Looking at the video (Instead of screenies and reading).. Out of all the Apple stuff, this is the most impressive (in my opinion)The zooming feature is really cool, and just generaly looks well put togetherHm, Mac on Intel + that might be interesting, but theres no way (due to a bunch of reasons) I'd ever buy a Mac (Other than a Mac Mini as a PVR front-end type thing, maybe at some point)As for spending "like 3 grand on a new camera, 2 grand on a mac capable of handling the software, and not to mention the cost of Aperture itself"Most decent digital cameras now can shoot in RAW.. My ~£250 (www.xe.com for convertion to dollars) can shoot in RAW (Fuji S7000, it's a nice camera, and I recommend it to anyone looking for a I-don't-want-to-spend-£1000-on-a-DSLR-camera, affordable, ~semi-pro camera :) ), and as for the PC capable of running it/Apeture itself.. Erm.. Yeh, it's not going to be cheapAnd yeh, if Apple are planning a PS "Rival" (in the forseeable future that is NOT going to happen), this isn't it.. Still pretty impressive though- Ben
This software is nothing to do with being a Photoshop rival. It's aimed squarely at professionals or well skilled amateurs. It is designed to greatly improve both quality and work flow from RAW files. Most small digital cameras will only save a jpeg file anyway, so its of no use to many people. I have been using Phase One's 'Capture One Pro" for some time which does a similar job to Aperture (at a similar price). But Aperture offers a bunch of new and exciting features and really looks to be well ahead of Capture One. The real proof will be in the color conversion. Phase One does a first class job here, well ahead in my opinion, of what Photoshop Raw can achieve. If Aperture can compete at the quality color end of the scale, then it will be the new RAW converter of choice for serious digital users. Myself included.Simon
g_razorOct 19, 2005
This isn't a Photoshop Killer, this isn't iPhoto for Professionals. This is for professional photographers (National Geographic, TIME, etc) who want to manipulate many or one image at a time. You don't use this program to browse your pictures, or simple things like crop. Neither do you create images from scratch.
spadeOct 19, 2005
samk wrote, "Nice app. The gray transparent windows remind me of Vista. Serious. :p"Does it, this is what the Apple Pro line of software look like, FCP, DVD Studio, Motion, Shake, heck even Logic Pro. I'm not sure what Vista looks like, but shipping products from Apple versus vaporware Vista makes me think the xerox machines are working at MS. ;)
funklyOct 19, 2005
'Fancy RAW image editing goodness is a fine use of 64 bit processing. Good move Apple.'Web weasel what does that mean when Mac go to Intel 32Bit processing?Hmmmmm...
spectre_25gtOct 20, 2005
This looks like a step in the right direction. I definitely think the iPhoto for professionals remark is on target. As far as I can tell, it really isn't much of an editing software at all, though the important retouching tools are there. I like the idea of added version control with it... I wonder if we'll ever see an Aperture Server come out. It would be great to have the ability to work simultaniously on multiple computers all connected to the same data store. I think one thing that would be very helpful to it would be if software like photoshop could be made "Aperture Aware." I.E. understanding the changes that aperture makes to the images. So that if I make a change to the white balance of the image, Photoshop or whatever other image editing software I'm using would see that as well. Right now, it looks like when an image is opened in an editor, the editor is just fed raster image data and nothing more. I could certainly be wrong about that, though.
mathew_bugOct 20, 2005
spectre: Photoshop creates a file when editing a RAW image with all the edition data inside
Closed AccountOct 20, 2005
Looking at the video (Instead of screenies and reading).. Out of all the Apple stuff, this is the most impressive (in my opinion)The zooming feature is really cool, and just generaly looks well put togetherHm, Mac on Intel + that might be interesting, but theres no way (due to a bunch of reasons) I'd ever buy a Mac (Other than a Mac Mini as a PVR front-end type thing, maybe at some point)As for spending "like 3 grand on a new camera, 2 grand on a mac capable of handling the software, and not to mention the cost of Aperture itself"Most decent digital cameras now can shoot in RAW.. My ~£250 (www.xe.com for convertion to dollars) can shoot in RAW (Fuji S7000, it's a nice camera, and I recommend it to anyone looking for a I-don't-want-to-spend-£1000-on-a-DSLR-camera, affordable, ~semi-pro camera :) ), and as for the PC capable of running it/Apeture itself.. Erm.. Yeh, it's not going to be cheapAnd yeh, if Apple are planning a PS "Rival" (in the forseeable future that is NOT going to happen), this isn't it.. Still pretty impressive though- Ben
mantisOct 22, 2005
Very Nice!+dugg
twelfthmanOct 24, 2005
This software is nothing to do with being a Photoshop rival. It's aimed squarely at professionals or well skilled amateurs. It is designed to greatly improve both quality and work flow from RAW files. Most small digital cameras will only save a jpeg file anyway, so its of no use to many people. I have been using Phase One's 'Capture One Pro" for some time which does a similar job to Aperture (at a similar price). But Aperture offers a bunch of new and exciting features and really looks to be well ahead of Capture One. The real proof will be in the color conversion. Phase One does a first class job here, well ahead in my opinion, of what Photoshop Raw can achieve. If Aperture can compete at the quality color end of the scale, then it will be the new RAW converter of choice for serious digital users. Myself included.Simon
flarn2006Nov 13, 2008
This was a triumph.
birch25Feb 10, 2010
Aperture is competing with Adobe Lightroom, not Photoshop. Thankfully the competition has made both Aperture and Lightroom pretty excellent products.