semthex.freeflux.net — Approxily 15 minutes ago, Apple removed 10.4.8 Darwin sources from their public source tree. Until now, it is unknown why this happend, the previous public sources are gone and there was no statement given about the removal
Oct 28, 2006 View in Crawl 4
Closed AccountOct 28, 2006
Amen raid :)
mejogidOct 28, 2006
@dgh1973I'm pretty sure that since Darwin is based of NexT, which is in turn based on some of the open parts of UNIX, and since UNIX requires all derivatives of this code to be open Darwin must keep them open too. I may be wrong, but it's the explanation I've always understood as Apple's practical reason for opening it up. I don't believe that Apple opened it up because they're such nice guys - if that was the case, they would have fully opened up the core of OS X.
angryboyOct 28, 2006
Just for fun, let's prove it!1) Approxily2) happend3) downlaod 4) happend5) publicty6) sine 7) redistrbute8) vanishs9) fullfiled 10) moduifications 11) downlaod12) themself13) soure 14) accessable 15) deffenetly 16) defenetlyNotice 15 and 16 are supposed to be the same word. Not only is his spelling inaccurate, it's also inconsistent. Out of ~225 words, that's about a 7% misspelling rate. Considering that FF2 has a built in spell checker on text input fields, that's terrible, and inexcusable. I don't care if English isn't his first language... anyone can use a spell checker.
forgetfulcaOct 28, 2006
@Mejogid:What the heck are you talking about? Certain portions of Linux (NOT unix) are under the gpl which requires modified code to be released, but there's no such requirement for 'unix' (of which there are so many flavors and branches, it's impossible to make a blanket statement like yours) It's very possible that apple's setup with the unix they are using allows them to do whatever the heck they want with access.
regeyaOct 28, 2006
I couldn't agree more. If people want a free lunch, they need to help put some effort into making a 'free' lunch. Sadly enough, it's one of the reasons I'm willing to go to a lot of trouble just to do the same things other desktop users do nearly effortlessly.EDIT: Though to be fair you can still get the source for free. You just need a login.
3denOct 28, 2006
Chris: If you are the copyright holder, you can do anything you want, including take it down or change the license. The rightsholder is not bound by the license in this case, the license only applies to others, who ordinarily would not be allowed to copy or redistribute, etc.
bieberOct 29, 2006
So you think that Apple really wants to be open, but unfortunately, when they released source code, people used it as they wanted, which people shouldn't do when companies release source?
geminitojanusOct 29, 2006
"(which is free in this case, you only need to be a registered Darwin developer)."Oh dear, spending two minutes to register on Apple's server, something you've already done if you're an Apple developer, is really a big deal...They're probably just tired of people anonymously cracking their product. They'd at least like to know the name of the fella who's recompiling their kernel and running Mac OS X illegally, give him a big pat on the back.