money.cnn.com— Fortune's most admired for "Innovation" list: Apple Computer is the most admired company for innovation this year, up from #3 last year.
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> replica wrote: "The writer is so insecure in his/her own SELF that he/she feels the need to compensate by attacking OTHERS."You're right. I shouldn't have use those insults. However, I think the rest of my argument stands as valid.> replica also wrote...> "iPod menu stolen from Creative."Creative stolen from the Walkman. The Walkman just a smaller version of any portable cassette player. Cassette players ripped from 8-track players which were in turn stolen from record players. Record players stolen from Edison's wax cylinders which are simply recorded live performances. So on and so on and so on.> "GUI copied from Xerox."PARC's interface was truly revolutionary. However, it possessed few of the innovations that are part of a modern user interface. One quick example... The windows on the Xerox UI weren't designed to overlap. As I understand it, the running application simply setup pseudo window-like work spaces but these were little more than drawn borders around blocks of text. Interestingly, the Apple engineer who wrote the first version of the Mac's Finder created the concept of overlapping windows simply because he falsely assumed that the Xerox UI did have overlapping windows.> "Widgets stolen from Konfabulator."I think the world of Arlo Rose's creation (Konfabulator) but I'm afraid you are way off base here. Since day one the Mac OS has incorporated tiny little single purpose mini-applications (called Desk Accessories) that sat just above the main application layer. Granted they weren't written in Javascript but then again there was no Javascript in 1984. Considering the limitations of the era (no internet, for example), in every conceivable way these Desk Accessories were the forerunner of today's widgets. As a matter of fact, many common widgets of today have a pre-OS X Desk Accessory counterpart.----replica, I hope you don't mind but I did a quick scan of some of your past comments and DIGGs. You really don't much care for Apple, do you? On the other hand, you seem to be a big fan of Microsoft (so am I, actually). Needless to say that's just fine. After all you certainly have a right to your opinion. But now knowing this, perhaps people might be wise to treat your Apple related comments with a bit more circumspection.
replica...... i love you :)and 16X9 who gives we inspect who apple really is behind all of the shiny white plastic instead of being like wow new ipod with video!!!!!!!!!! wait they stole that too..... I bought an archos multimedia 20 in 2000 for 400 bucks that had video Oh and heres somthing innovative that apple can't do it still works.......... old technology in shiny boxes yeah.............. apple can milk people for all their worth
"The idea was stolen form Xerox, but the actual implementation and design of it is a Apple innovation. Xerox only had the consent of a pointer and icons.. most of what you think of today as the Desktop is a Apple deign."*sigh* - I am not Apple fan, but it was NOT stolen it was PURCHASED from Xerox R&D for the cost effective price of $10,000 dollars. Paul Allen (who was working with Bill Gates on what was to become BASIC - MS wasnt a company incorporated yet) a few years later then negotiated a patent disclosure with John Sculley who had just been hired from Pepsi-Cola (and later fired Steve Jobs the man responsible for hiring him) for what turns out to be next to nothing (actuall dollar amount never disclosed but presumed to be less the $100,000).
Closed AccountFeb 22, 2006
dug because of the other companies that made the list
halophoenixFeb 22, 2006
wow. Digg comments are out of control; this is getting ridiculous. No wonder people just blindly digg stories around here.
sendmesomejunkFeb 23, 2006
The Circle Jerks rock!
16x9Feb 23, 2006
> replica wrote: "The writer is so insecure in his/her own SELF that he/she feels the need to compensate by attacking OTHERS."You're right. I shouldn't have use those insults. However, I think the rest of my argument stands as valid.> replica also wrote...> "iPod menu stolen from Creative."Creative stolen from the Walkman. The Walkman just a smaller version of any portable cassette player. Cassette players ripped from 8-track players which were in turn stolen from record players. Record players stolen from Edison's wax cylinders which are simply recorded live performances. So on and so on and so on.> "GUI copied from Xerox."PARC's interface was truly revolutionary. However, it possessed few of the innovations that are part of a modern user interface. One quick example... The windows on the Xerox UI weren't designed to overlap. As I understand it, the running application simply setup pseudo window-like work spaces but these were little more than drawn borders around blocks of text. Interestingly, the Apple engineer who wrote the first version of the Mac's Finder created the concept of overlapping windows simply because he falsely assumed that the Xerox UI did have overlapping windows.> "Widgets stolen from Konfabulator."I think the world of Arlo Rose's creation (Konfabulator) but I'm afraid you are way off base here. Since day one the Mac OS has incorporated tiny little single purpose mini-applications (called Desk Accessories) that sat just above the main application layer. Granted they weren't written in Javascript but then again there was no Javascript in 1984. Considering the limitations of the era (no internet, for example), in every conceivable way these Desk Accessories were the forerunner of today's widgets. As a matter of fact, many common widgets of today have a pre-OS X Desk Accessory counterpart.----replica, I hope you don't mind but I did a quick scan of some of your past comments and DIGGs. You really don't much care for Apple, do you? On the other hand, you seem to be a big fan of Microsoft (so am I, actually). Needless to say that's just fine. After all you certainly have a right to your opinion. But now knowing this, perhaps people might be wise to treat your Apple related comments with a bit more circumspection.
matt_rubinFeb 23, 2006
replica...... i love you :)and 16X9 who gives we inspect who apple really is behind all of the shiny white plastic instead of being like wow new ipod with video!!!!!!!!!! wait they stole that too..... I bought an archos multimedia 20 in 2000 for 400 bucks that had video Oh and heres somthing innovative that apple can't do it still works.......... old technology in shiny boxes yeah.............. apple can milk people for all their worth
metmanFeb 23, 2006
"The idea was stolen form Xerox, but the actual implementation and design of it is a Apple innovation. Xerox only had the consent of a pointer and icons.. most of what you think of today as the Desktop is a Apple deign."*sigh* - I am not Apple fan, but it was NOT stolen it was PURCHASED from Xerox R&D for the cost effective price of $10,000 dollars. Paul Allen (who was working with Bill Gates on what was to become BASIC - MS wasnt a company incorporated yet) a few years later then negotiated a patent disclosure with John Sculley who had just been hired from Pepsi-Cola (and later fired Steve Jobs the man responsible for hiring him) for what turns out to be next to nothing (actuall dollar amount never disclosed but presumed to be less the $100,000).
Closed AccountFeb 23, 2006
but what's more important is that my company was vote most admired company in the US and globally.