If you had written Gay marriage, instead of homosexuals, they would have gotten it, Galore. ;^)While effeminate homosexuals were looked down upon in ancient Rome, homosexuality was tolerated, and occasionally celebrated until Constantine (himself a homosexual) established the Christian theocracy late in the empire. It was then persecuted with increasing vigor into the dark ages after Rome?s collapse. Augustus did pass a law against it in the early days of empire, but it was unpopular and never really enforced.
I do think the US will collapse in a few years. And it will be massive.Considering the ENORMOUS debts america has all over the world, and the continuing spending on the war and security, which will only increase, there will be a day that Japan and China trade their Dollars for Euro's and stop paying America's economy. On that day, in a few hours, America will be bankrupt and very isolated. Dollars will be worth nothing.If you think this is nonsens, this theory has been backed up by Alan Greenspan, and several very high-ranked economists. It's just a matter of time.
Sounds like what you're proposing is Anarchy - the ability to do whatever you want. Responsible anarchy, but anarchy none the less. You're also echoing Alexis de Tocqueville in his fear of the tyranny of the majority. Fair enough. That's what minority rights are about.You may feel like you understand freedom and liberty, but you have one of those idealistic simplistic world views that lead intelligent people to say stupid things. Governments exist, rules exist, laws and penalties exist as humans have long since abandoned anarchy. Anarchy doesn't work in your house, it doesn't work in your town, and it doesn't work in your state. Tell your kids "you can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't infringe on my ability to do the same" and see how that goes.The rest of the people like me want a path where the obvious rules exist ( no killing/stealing/etc ) without too many stupid rules ( don't burn flags ).Fortunately, in the universe we share it is totally ok for you to say whatever you like... just make sure you're in a country that infringes on the rights of people who would like to stop you.-WS
America is driven by 2 issues and 2 issues only. Gays and Abortions. The party which is against Gays and Abortions will have unlimited power. The religious right that controls the American government will allow ANYTHING as long as gays and abortions are deemed evil. No matter what the cons do, no matter how outrageous or disastrous to America, they have a 100% free pass. So it's simple... America is 2 insanely insignificant issues that override 100's of vital issues to our survival. Because of this the Constitution has been destroyed and we will fall. What else can be said other than it's well deserved.
What absolute rubbish. I havent got time to put all the historical inaccuracies in place but the simple proposition that Rome was a sedate democratic Republic prior to Pompey is ludicrous. And the attempt to state that America has given up all to a dictator and this will lead to the end of its democratic freedoms is far far far too long a bow to draw. But then again what else would one expect of 'The New York Times'?
stonebearOct 1, 2006
If you had written Gay marriage, instead of homosexuals, they would have gotten it, Galore. ;^)While effeminate homosexuals were looked down upon in ancient Rome, homosexuality was tolerated, and occasionally celebrated until Constantine (himself a homosexual) established the Christian theocracy late in the empire. It was then persecuted with increasing vigor into the dark ages after Rome?s collapse. Augustus did pass a law against it in the early days of empire, but it was unpopular and never really enforced.
bobbybobingtonOct 1, 2006
Hmm... are you talking about the libertarian party?
protonzOct 1, 2006
Bush could easily continue on after his 8 years. Just slap the name Jeb in front.
johneffortOct 1, 2006
I do think the US will collapse in a few years. And it will be massive.Considering the ENORMOUS debts america has all over the world, and the continuing spending on the war and security, which will only increase, there will be a day that Japan and China trade their Dollars for Euro's and stop paying America's economy. On that day, in a few hours, America will be bankrupt and very isolated. Dollars will be worth nothing.If you think this is nonsens, this theory has been backed up by Alan Greenspan, and several very high-ranked economists. It's just a matter of time.
wintersolsticeOct 1, 2006
Sounds like what you're proposing is Anarchy - the ability to do whatever you want. Responsible anarchy, but anarchy none the less. You're also echoing Alexis de Tocqueville in his fear of the tyranny of the majority. Fair enough. That's what minority rights are about.You may feel like you understand freedom and liberty, but you have one of those idealistic simplistic world views that lead intelligent people to say stupid things. Governments exist, rules exist, laws and penalties exist as humans have long since abandoned anarchy. Anarchy doesn't work in your house, it doesn't work in your town, and it doesn't work in your state. Tell your kids "you can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't infringe on my ability to do the same" and see how that goes.The rest of the people like me want a path where the obvious rules exist ( no killing/stealing/etc ) without too many stupid rules ( don't burn flags ).Fortunately, in the universe we share it is totally ok for you to say whatever you like... just make sure you're in a country that infringes on the rights of people who would like to stop you.-WS
loplaOct 2, 2006
America is driven by 2 issues and 2 issues only. Gays and Abortions. The party which is against Gays and Abortions will have unlimited power. The religious right that controls the American government will allow ANYTHING as long as gays and abortions are deemed evil. No matter what the cons do, no matter how outrageous or disastrous to America, they have a 100% free pass. So it's simple... America is 2 insanely insignificant issues that override 100's of vital issues to our survival. Because of this the Constitution has been destroyed and we will fall. What else can be said other than it's well deserved.
knightmareincOct 2, 2006
<a class="user" href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_rome/index.html">http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_rome/index.html</a>yes they did.
rockywoodOct 4, 2006
What absolute rubbish. I havent got time to put all the historical inaccuracies in place but the simple proposition that Rome was a sedate democratic Republic prior to Pompey is ludicrous. And the attempt to state that America has given up all to a dictator and this will lead to the end of its democratic freedoms is far far far too long a bow to draw. But then again what else would one expect of 'The New York Times'?
brotherfrancizOct 6, 2006
Hmmm, time for a game of "Rome: Total War"...
etg1109Apr 16, 2007
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