wired.com— A conferenace for "neogeographers," -- a generation of coders whose work is inspired by easily obtained map data, as well as the mashups made possible by Google Maps and Microsoft's Virtual Earth.
Jun 16, 2006View in Crawl 4
"All the world is a map."Well, duh. As long as we have "map" meaning a representation of the world, and we accept that the world is a possible representation of itself (also the most accurate)... :)
Cartography is just making maps, which these guys are doing, but they're also doing a lot with data acquisition and GIS. Neogeographer is an appropriate term.
Google Earth is ArcGIS for the masses. The average user doesn't care about joins, unions, merges, and ArcToolbox. Google actually competed with ESRI a while back on a project (I don't remember the project) and beat them out. It didn't work out for them, and the company went back with ESRI. ArcGIS should strive to become more like AutoCAD in price. AutoCAD is every bit as functional as ArcGIS at what it does, and it will only run you $4000. ArcEditor and ArcInfo licenses will cost you as much as a small car. /GIS Specialist.
Amusingly enough, Neogeographer has always been a slightly derisive slang term that Schuyler has used to describe me, which I accept rather than embrace ;) However, it is an accurate term in Lewis Mumford's scheme: he defined, in _Technics and Civilization_, the 'eotechnics', 'paleotechnics', 'neotechnics', from which the paleo/neo geographer word creation is pulled.I will agree that neocartographer is definitely *not* the correct term. Although I have performed some cartography (specifically, for the Boston Freemap), geographer is more descriptive and accurate of what I tend to spend most of my time doing.
l0neJun 17, 2006
"All the world is a map."Well, duh. As long as we have "map" meaning a representation of the world, and we accept that the world is a possible representation of itself (also the most accurate)... :)
hexdollJun 17, 2006
Perhaps neocartographer would be a better term.
ottergooseJun 17, 2006
Cartography is just making maps, which these guys are doing, but they're also doing a lot with data acquisition and GIS. Neogeographer is an appropriate term.
dwightschruteJun 17, 2006
Google Earth is ArcGIS for the masses. The average user doesn't care about joins, unions, merges, and ArcToolbox. Google actually competed with ESRI a while back on a project (I don't remember the project) and beat them out. It didn't work out for them, and the company went back with ESRI. ArcGIS should strive to become more like AutoCAD in price. AutoCAD is every bit as functional as ArcGIS at what it does, and it will only run you $4000. ArcEditor and ArcInfo licenses will cost you as much as a small car. /GIS Specialist.
crschmidtJun 17, 2006
Amusingly enough, Neogeographer has always been a slightly derisive slang term that Schuyler has used to describe me, which I accept rather than embrace ;) However, it is an accurate term in Lewis Mumford's scheme: he defined, in _Technics and Civilization_, the 'eotechnics', 'paleotechnics', 'neotechnics', from which the paleo/neo geographer word creation is pulled.I will agree that neocartographer is definitely *not* the correct term. Although I have performed some cartography (specifically, for the Boston Freemap), geographer is more descriptive and accurate of what I tend to spend most of my time doing.
bkumar12Jun 17, 2006
Microsoft's visual earth program is nothing compared to google earth. Dont all agree?(!)