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@Mateo2 "crappy quicktime" happens to have become the H.264 video standard used by… pretty much everything from Bluray to Flash.@pedronym Would you ever want to use that on a 320x480 display?Great arguments for not wanting Flash, people.
Adobe seems absxentided that Flash is a security nightmare. They have constant stream of flaws/exploits/malware linked to their product. <a class="user" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/22/adobe_flash_attacks_go_wild/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/22/adobe_flas ...</a>Flash is worse than a browser because while you can switch browsers, Flash installs itself for ALL the browsers on your system. Since cell phones only have one browser, there is no avoiding Flash risks while you surf the web with your phone, if it is installed.
Exactly. Adobe can write something that is iPhone friendly if they want to. They do have programmers. They know what the rules are. Having managers try to fob off something ill-fitting and ill-advised for phones is lame.Sitting down with Apples iPhone rules, and letting them soak in and not just the letter of the rules but the reasons why those rules needed to be made - would allow them to design an apropos product.Why isn't Adobe doing some H.264 applications or tools and stuff? Why are they trying to run a heavy PC kitchen sink app on a tiny device?
None of those complaints are valid specific issues. How many different machines have you verified this behaviour on? "CS can crash the system occasioanlly", that just about applies to every piece of software ever created.I'm on a Windows 7 PC, the hardware is about a year old, CS4 as a whole runs pretty much perfectly. If your problem is because of an old PC, then f**king upgrade, if you are using these apps professionally there's no reason not to spend $1000 on a decent rig for them.Or, your problem might be related to the fact that your current installation of windows is 3 years old and has 15,000 programs you've installed on it. Don't blame adobe, just pay someone $250 to format the disk and reinstall the OS. Or do it yourself if you're that way inclined.I'm not saying that adobe apps are beautifully coded, they have their roots in the Mac world and as a PC user they don't really fit in... but in terms of stability they are generally no worse than anything else I use.And there's no serious competition. I spent a couple of years trying to use Corel Draw and Painter, and the sad fact is that they are just bad imitations. Even basic filters are of a lesser quality than the Adobe equivalents. Long story short - those complaints of yours are so vague as to be meaningless and are probably caused by your hardware/operating system rather than the applications.
gothaliceNov 2, 2009
@Mateo2 "crappy quicktime" happens to have become the H.264 video standard used by… pretty much everything from Bluray to Flash.@pedronym Would you ever want to use that on a 320x480 display?Great arguments for not wanting Flash, people.
jmb93Nov 3, 2009
@babydill Really, are they going to "loose" it as you say?
sarcasteakNov 3, 2009
same, few changes from cs3
neonfish7Nov 3, 2009
no, you are not
johnnysoftwareNov 19, 2009
Adobe seems absxentided that Flash is a security nightmare. They have constant stream of flaws/exploits/malware linked to their product. <a class="user" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/22/adobe_flash_attacks_go_wild/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/22/adobe_flas ...</a>Flash is worse than a browser because while you can switch browsers, Flash installs itself for ALL the browsers on your system. Since cell phones only have one browser, there is no avoiding Flash risks while you surf the web with your phone, if it is installed.
johnnysoftwareNov 19, 2009
Exactly. Adobe can write something that is iPhone friendly if they want to. They do have programmers. They know what the rules are. Having managers try to fob off something ill-fitting and ill-advised for phones is lame.Sitting down with Apples iPhone rules, and letting them soak in and not just the letter of the rules but the reasons why those rules needed to be made - would allow them to design an apropos product.Why isn't Adobe doing some H.264 applications or tools and stuff? Why are they trying to run a heavy PC kitchen sink app on a tiny device?
kanojo1969Nov 22, 2009
None of those complaints are valid specific issues. How many different machines have you verified this behaviour on? "CS can crash the system occasioanlly", that just about applies to every piece of software ever created.I'm on a Windows 7 PC, the hardware is about a year old, CS4 as a whole runs pretty much perfectly. If your problem is because of an old PC, then f**king upgrade, if you are using these apps professionally there's no reason not to spend $1000 on a decent rig for them.Or, your problem might be related to the fact that your current installation of windows is 3 years old and has 15,000 programs you've installed on it. Don't blame adobe, just pay someone $250 to format the disk and reinstall the OS. Or do it yourself if you're that way inclined.I'm not saying that adobe apps are beautifully coded, they have their roots in the Mac world and as a PC user they don't really fit in... but in terms of stability they are generally no worse than anything else I use.And there's no serious competition. I spent a couple of years trying to use Corel Draw and Painter, and the sad fact is that they are just bad imitations. Even basic filters are of a lesser quality than the Adobe equivalents. Long story short - those complaints of yours are so vague as to be meaningless and are probably caused by your hardware/operating system rather than the applications.
Closed AccountNov 22, 2009
Come to think of it, besides Irritating ad's .Exe and Video, flash has no real use.