Okay aeoo is not a tard. You would be amazed though how often responses like "It doesn't happen to me so it must be you" pop up regarding Firefox issues. There is a mindset out there that it is the user's fault, *especially* if the other user you're talking to doesn't experience your problem.Knowing that it works for someone else isn't really helpful, I'm sure there's people who never had problems with Windows ME for instance ;)Firefox actually have a program called TalkBack they've licensed, which can report dumps after Firefox crashes. The problem with that is of course that Firefox.exe chewing a couple hundred meg of ram is not a crash.
@r2d7:"Open source software can be bought, look at Oracle, they bought Innobase and Sleepycat, which gives them a (very potential) stranglehold on MySQL and it's future growth."Well, we should wait and see in this case. :) Or so I think. I don't think we can predict what will happen. When it comes to free and open source, you can buy the developer, but you can't buy the software assets. :) On the other hand, proprietary software can be purchased and terminated.I've used Opera before and personally when I tried it last I thought it sucked. Granted, there have been many improvements in Opera recently, but I'm happy with FF and see no reason to stop using it.I think Asa is confident and maybe sometimes he does like to tweak some people, but I don't think he's more arrogant than an average human. I read his rants and while I think he enjoys to throw a certain curve ball at a certain group of people just for kicks (in my opinion... I bet he gets a laugh at all the veins popping on his blog). The thing is, if Asa took the barbs and tweaks out, the meat of his complaints about Opera and IE would still be true. In my experience Asa checks fairly carefully before posting. So while people like to attack him and call him arrogant, it's mostly because Asa hit their nerve due to a mixture of truth and tweaks. Granted, if Asa was a saint, maybe (and this still is a maybe, because maybe saints think we take ourselves way too seriously and would tweak us too?) he could just post his complaint in a completely neutral and self-effacing tone, replete with no less than 10 references every time, etc... spending tons and tons of stuff researching on his personal blog. That's not my dream. I really don't care. Maybe some people want to see Asa improve himself in this way, but not me. *shrug* Anyway, to put it more briefly, I don't think Asa is arrogant.In fact, I think Asa does care deeply about Firefox users and really does take their issues to heart. But as the man in the trenches, so to speak, he's also had to deal with a lot of BS bug reporting and nonsense coming from FF users, and maybe that makes him a little more thick skinned. But at least he's thick skinned in an honest way and not like some fake-smiley PR person.
And finally,This doesn't explain why Firefox ramps up my notebook CPU (2.66 ghz P4) up to 100% usage, forcing my fan to run at high speed, and burning through my battery in a little over an hour.I like Firefox, but it is a real hog on a notebook.
hcker2000Feb 15, 2006
How about they fix the issue that happens when firefox is minimized for a long time and then opened and its slow as crap for a good while.
Closed AccountFeb 15, 2006
Okay aeoo is not a tard. You would be amazed though how often responses like "It doesn't happen to me so it must be you" pop up regarding Firefox issues. There is a mindset out there that it is the user's fault, *especially* if the other user you're talking to doesn't experience your problem.Knowing that it works for someone else isn't really helpful, I'm sure there's people who never had problems with Windows ME for instance ;)Firefox actually have a program called TalkBack they've licensed, which can report dumps after Firefox crashes. The problem with that is of course that Firefox.exe chewing a couple hundred meg of ram is not a crash.
aeooFeb 15, 2006
@r2d7:"Open source software can be bought, look at Oracle, they bought Innobase and Sleepycat, which gives them a (very potential) stranglehold on MySQL and it's future growth."Well, we should wait and see in this case. :) Or so I think. I don't think we can predict what will happen. When it comes to free and open source, you can buy the developer, but you can't buy the software assets. :) On the other hand, proprietary software can be purchased and terminated.I've used Opera before and personally when I tried it last I thought it sucked. Granted, there have been many improvements in Opera recently, but I'm happy with FF and see no reason to stop using it.I think Asa is confident and maybe sometimes he does like to tweak some people, but I don't think he's more arrogant than an average human. I read his rants and while I think he enjoys to throw a certain curve ball at a certain group of people just for kicks (in my opinion... I bet he gets a laugh at all the veins popping on his blog). The thing is, if Asa took the barbs and tweaks out, the meat of his complaints about Opera and IE would still be true. In my experience Asa checks fairly carefully before posting. So while people like to attack him and call him arrogant, it's mostly because Asa hit their nerve due to a mixture of truth and tweaks. Granted, if Asa was a saint, maybe (and this still is a maybe, because maybe saints think we take ourselves way too seriously and would tweak us too?) he could just post his complaint in a completely neutral and self-effacing tone, replete with no less than 10 references every time, etc... spending tons and tons of stuff researching on his personal blog. That's not my dream. I really don't care. Maybe some people want to see Asa improve himself in this way, but not me. *shrug* Anyway, to put it more briefly, I don't think Asa is arrogant.In fact, I think Asa does care deeply about Firefox users and really does take their issues to heart. But as the man in the trenches, so to speak, he's also had to deal with a lot of BS bug reporting and nonsense coming from FF users, and maybe that makes him a little more thick skinned. But at least he's thick skinned in an honest way and not like some fake-smiley PR person.
thephilomathFeb 15, 2006Submitter
If Opera had extensions then i'd probably be swayed, but it doesn't. End of story for me!
jamesbondFeb 16, 2006
I already knew that but that doesn't explain why Firefox 1.5 crashes often.
justmy2__Feb 16, 2006
And finally,This doesn't explain why Firefox ramps up my notebook CPU (2.66 ghz P4) up to 100% usage, forcing my fan to run at high speed, and burning through my battery in a little over an hour.I like Firefox, but it is a real hog on a notebook.