apcstart.com— Over a third of broadband users are now regularly downloading pirated television episodes on their home internet connection, according to Whirlpool's latest survey of over 16,000 of its members.
May 29, 2006View in Crawl 4
>I do not recognize download TV shows as illegal wrong morally or any other way. its freely broadcast and should >therfore be up for grabs anyway you like it.If you like a show enough to download it, why do you want to deprive the people who worked on it of the money they would make from you watching it legitimately on a broadcaster with commercials?
'Free TV, as you put it, is not free. You pay for it with your time ostensibly by watching the commercial advertising that runs with it on the network. The networks in turn, pay the studios for the program, using a portion of the revenue from the advertisers who paid for that commercial you watched. The studios then paid the actors and other creative people who worked on the show, some of the money they were paid by the networks. With all of that money changing hands, broadcast TV is anything but "free."'Interesting argument, but the revenue stream involved here does not change, whether I watch the show when it is broadcast or if I watch the show by downloading it. It's not quite the case where the folks buying time for the commercial say "oh, we only had 22,500,631 viewers for this show instead of the 25,000,000 we expected. As a result, we're going to pay you less for these time slots."On the macro scale over a long period of time, the sales of time for commercials may decline or become less of a revenue stream, but the businesses will adapt to make money where they can make money. It's ludicrous for these companies to stifle innovation by forcing us to conform to an antiquated business model by manipulating the legal system. How about this: offer the shows for download with commercials and then charge people more for advertising time because it is now reaching an additional market. The reason that I go and download a show off bittorrent is that it is not available anywhere else. It's just absolute bulls**t that some suit in the corporate offices of these companies can't wrap his pea-brain around innovation and the speed at which content delivery is changing - which ultimately makes his product available to less people. More people as customers = more sales = more profit.
If they are part of broadcast television there should be nothing wrong with it its being beamed for free anyways. but for shows on HBO then its piracy in my book so id tell them I'm not going to pay dick just cause I'm just out of antenna reach.
Does anyone have a link to a law that prevents recording broadcast television? I've never seen a notice in any broadcast television program (other than sporting events) that explicitly states duplication is forbidden. Neither have I ever entered into a contract with any television station stating I would not do so. However, I expect that cable/satellite contracts may have such a stipulation.
Right -- and I wasn't exactly trying to hide that, given my account name is my real name, and my personal website domain is also ... my real name ... and a Google search of my name brings up the info very easily! If you don't like the story, don't digg it. That's the beauty of the diggmocracy...!
People,if you're downloading _anything_ from P2P networks, including Torrents, I _urge_ you to go download & install PeerGuardian2 (<a class="user" href="http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/)">http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/)</a> - this handy little blighter will stop the RIAA, MPAA, etc., etc. from knocking at either you or your ISPs door.After you've had it running a little while, just take a look at the blocked IPs - you'll be surprised. Good luck, me hearties! =]
Closed AccountMay 30, 2006
Wait, getting FREE tv show for FREE?I don't see crime in this.
excoriatorMay 30, 2006
>I do not recognize download TV shows as illegal wrong morally or any other way. its freely broadcast and should >therfore be up for grabs anyway you like it.If you like a show enough to download it, why do you want to deprive the people who worked on it of the money they would make from you watching it legitimately on a broadcaster with commercials?
johnboiwaltuneMay 30, 2006
Yarrr, swab me pegleg matey...
luservegasMay 30, 2006
'Free TV, as you put it, is not free. You pay for it with your time ostensibly by watching the commercial advertising that runs with it on the network. The networks in turn, pay the studios for the program, using a portion of the revenue from the advertisers who paid for that commercial you watched. The studios then paid the actors and other creative people who worked on the show, some of the money they were paid by the networks. With all of that money changing hands, broadcast TV is anything but "free."'Interesting argument, but the revenue stream involved here does not change, whether I watch the show when it is broadcast or if I watch the show by downloading it. It's not quite the case where the folks buying time for the commercial say "oh, we only had 22,500,631 viewers for this show instead of the 25,000,000 we expected. As a result, we're going to pay you less for these time slots."On the macro scale over a long period of time, the sales of time for commercials may decline or become less of a revenue stream, but the businesses will adapt to make money where they can make money. It's ludicrous for these companies to stifle innovation by forcing us to conform to an antiquated business model by manipulating the legal system. How about this: offer the shows for download with commercials and then charge people more for advertising time because it is now reaching an additional market. The reason that I go and download a show off bittorrent is that it is not available anywhere else. It's just absolute bulls**t that some suit in the corporate offices of these companies can't wrap his pea-brain around innovation and the speed at which content delivery is changing - which ultimately makes his product available to less people. More people as customers = more sales = more profit.
player0neMay 30, 2006
If they are part of broadcast television there should be nothing wrong with it its being beamed for free anyways. but for shows on HBO then its piracy in my book so id tell them I'm not going to pay dick just cause I'm just out of antenna reach.
szembekMay 30, 2006
How many pirated television episodes do you find with the commercials intact?
moracityMay 30, 2006
Does anyone have a link to a law that prevents recording broadcast television? I've never seen a notice in any broadcast television program (other than sporting events) that explicitly states duplication is forbidden. Neither have I ever entered into a contract with any television station stating I would not do so. However, I expect that cable/satellite contracts may have such a stipulation.
danwarneJun 8, 2006Submitter
Right -- and I wasn't exactly trying to hide that, given my account name is my real name, and my personal website domain is also ... my real name ... and a Google search of my name brings up the info very easily! If you don't like the story, don't digg it. That's the beauty of the diggmocracy...!
zarathustra2k1Sep 21, 2006
People,if you're downloading _anything_ from P2P networks, including Torrents, I _urge_ you to go download & install PeerGuardian2 (<a class="user" href="http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/)">http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/)</a> - this handy little blighter will stop the RIAA, MPAA, etc., etc. from knocking at either you or your ISPs door.After you've had it running a little while, just take a look at the blocked IPs - you'll be surprised. Good luck, me hearties! =]
jim0bobMar 6, 2008
More and more TV networks are putting TV programs online for free to watch on demand. So soon people won't need pirate to watch there favorite TV episodes. You can find all the major networks listed at <a class="user" href="http://www.watchonbroadband.com">http://www.watchonbroadband.com</a>