cpbotha.net— A Linux veteran (since 1993) gives a rather balanced review of Ubuntu Feisty beta. To me, this is one of the first *real* reviews I have seen of Feisty.
Apr 10, 2007View in Crawl 4
I like OpenSuSE (using 10.2 now) but I'm itching to see if they can make Kubuntu better as I like ubuntu's way of doing things better than SuSE's, but prefer KDE to Gnome.Nice to see it's coming along nicely and it looks like Edgy -> Feisty is going to be a much bigger leap than Dapper -> Edgy was.Will the Kickoff menu be in Kubuntu 7.04 by default? I like it alot.My mouth is watering waiting for Feisty Final...
To be fair Toshiba products are among the most linux-unfriendly on the market. Their new motherboards (made by Phoenix) lock you out if you try and install another OS on them.You can't judge the quality of the product when you're using hardware that was designed to make life difficult for anyone who dares not use Microsoft.
"I am talking about mouse clicks and not about command line.All naive users prefer mouse clicks to access any feature."Copy that command line into a shell script. Boom, all you have to do is double click :)(I'm sure you could output it graphically as well, somehow)
@truegodofwarThat's not completely true in all cases. My Linksys NIC with a Broadcom 4306 chipset still needs ndiswrapper to provide full functionality. Although I'll admit that the wireless support has grown leaps and bounds with this release.
"I run IT at a company in Arlington and I'm switching them from Vista to Ubuntu this weekend."*Please* report back on what the result is on Monday. I can't wait to hear what happens.I'm going to go to the trouble of adding you as a friend just so I can digg your article.
I'm using Edgy for my desktop and dual booted on my Laptop with XP. I find it annoying in my noob-knowledge of Linux, the fact that my wireless 3945ABG on my HP Laptop nw8440 doesn't turn ON from within Ubuntu Edgy. I have to enable it in XP, reboot and then Ubuntu Edgy will 'see' it (????) and allow me to connect to my WEP secured wireless network. Otherwise the wireless NIC is not even available as a piece of hardware from the network-gnome-manager. So, I agree with the article Ubuntu on laptop has some work, the desktop box end support is pretty strong.
These guys raise a good point. If we're ever going to have an open source OS be successful, it HAS to be designed from the ground up as both functional and user friendly.
Closed AccountApr 11, 2007
I like OpenSuSE (using 10.2 now) but I'm itching to see if they can make Kubuntu better as I like ubuntu's way of doing things better than SuSE's, but prefer KDE to Gnome.Nice to see it's coming along nicely and it looks like Edgy -> Feisty is going to be a much bigger leap than Dapper -> Edgy was.Will the Kickoff menu be in Kubuntu 7.04 by default? I like it alot.My mouth is watering waiting for Feisty Final...
seenxuApr 11, 2007
I think on xp is 2, on mac is also 2. :D
ajifansApr 11, 2007
To be fair Toshiba products are among the most linux-unfriendly on the market. Their new motherboards (made by Phoenix) lock you out if you try and install another OS on them.You can't judge the quality of the product when you're using hardware that was designed to make life difficult for anyone who dares not use Microsoft.
generalloyApr 11, 2007
"I am talking about mouse clicks and not about command line.All naive users prefer mouse clicks to access any feature."Copy that command line into a shell script. Boom, all you have to do is double click :)(I'm sure you could output it graphically as well, somehow)
blamarApr 11, 2007
@truegodofwarThat's not completely true in all cases. My Linksys NIC with a Broadcom 4306 chipset still needs ndiswrapper to provide full functionality. Although I'll admit that the wireless support has grown leaps and bounds with this release.
661pApr 11, 2007
Balanced yeah, but still pretty positive! I'm definately trying Feisty
paulmdxApr 11, 2007
"I run IT at a company in Arlington and I'm switching them from Vista to Ubuntu this weekend."*Please* report back on what the result is on Monday. I can't wait to hear what happens.I'm going to go to the trouble of adding you as a friend just so I can digg your article.
unsolicitedApr 12, 2007
You guys really are not concerned about naive users.You are hard wired for developers.
digitalghost1Apr 13, 2007
I'm using Edgy for my desktop and dual booted on my Laptop with XP. I find it annoying in my noob-knowledge of Linux, the fact that my wireless 3945ABG on my HP Laptop nw8440 doesn't turn ON from within Ubuntu Edgy. I have to enable it in XP, reboot and then Ubuntu Edgy will 'see' it (????) and allow me to connect to my WEP secured wireless network. Otherwise the wireless NIC is not even available as a piece of hardware from the network-gnome-manager. So, I agree with the article Ubuntu on laptop has some work, the desktop box end support is pretty strong.
spudsterJun 26, 2008
These guys raise a good point. If we're ever going to have an open source OS be successful, it HAS to be designed from the ground up as both functional and user friendly.