Argh. Editing timed out while I was spellchecking and re-writing that comment. Here is what I wanted to say:Thanks to guides like these, beginners *are* installing unstable tech like XGL. Because of this, the Kororaa live cd is a great way to show of how shiny linux can be while leaving desktops to be rock solid as linux desktops can be.XGL is something that no desktop is going to install by default, ever. It's a transition technology used before EGL comes into existence. Even AIGLX is something that will take a while before it's turned on by default - although it's part of the Xorg 7.1 release, drivers capable of the required GLX extension (texture_from_pixmap) only exist for intel cards.That said, nvidia has indicated that their next release series will implement the extension, and given Redhat's involvement, AIGLX is the way of the near future. And maybe EXA will come about in the long term, but maybe AIGLX will be enough. Only time will tell.(pet peve: the cool part is called compiz. XGL is just the underlying tech which enables compiz to do it's compositing. It's like saying "hey, look how cool the linux kernel is" - yeah, it allows you to run XGL which enables you to run compiz, but it's compiz, not the kernel that does the cool stuff)
the reason i posted this, is that anyone who is wanting to instal xgl on ubuntu already has a plethora of guides....the only reason they wouldnt have found one, is if they didnt know how to use a search engine, and or did not know what xgl is to begin with.
i've gone the aiglx route since it's easier on the resources with the intel i9* - previously tried xglfeeling kinda frisky this morning i'll give this tut* a try :-)
"the reason i posted this, is that anyone who is wanting to instal xgl on ubuntu already has a plethora of guides....the only reason they wouldnt have found one, is if they didnt know how to use a search engine, and or did not know what xgl is to begin with."I think that's missing the point of Digg. It's purpose is not to be a place where you can go to look something up. That's what Wikipedia and Google are for. The point of Digg is to bring to your attention things which you wouldn't have thought to look up. I'm running Ubuntu, but hadn't heard of anyone getting Compiz and XGL running, but now I'm going to try it out. Whoo-hoo! Dugg.
i agree, this is not a stable system. my gnome desklets don't play nice, and firefox seems to be running worse than IE 3.0 on a 486nice looking though. i like to impress n00bs with it.
Can anyone confirm that they've managed to get this working by following this tutorial? I managed to hose my Ubuntu system a few days ago by trying out various different 'how to guides" and had to start over with a new installation. This was on a Toshiba notebook with ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7000 IGP graphics. Anyone know if that should be up to the task?
shenkiJun 24, 2006
Argh. Editing timed out while I was spellchecking and re-writing that comment. Here is what I wanted to say:Thanks to guides like these, beginners *are* installing unstable tech like XGL. Because of this, the Kororaa live cd is a great way to show of how shiny linux can be while leaving desktops to be rock solid as linux desktops can be.XGL is something that no desktop is going to install by default, ever. It's a transition technology used before EGL comes into existence. Even AIGLX is something that will take a while before it's turned on by default - although it's part of the Xorg 7.1 release, drivers capable of the required GLX extension (texture_from_pixmap) only exist for intel cards.That said, nvidia has indicated that their next release series will implement the extension, and given Redhat's involvement, AIGLX is the way of the near future. And maybe EXA will come about in the long term, but maybe AIGLX will be enough. Only time will tell.(pet peve: the cool part is called compiz. XGL is just the underlying tech which enables compiz to do it's compositing. It's like saying "hey, look how cool the linux kernel is" - yeah, it allows you to run XGL which enables you to run compiz, but it's compiz, not the kernel that does the cool stuff)
shenkiJun 24, 2006
If you've updated your mac with the latest firmware update (comes through software update, afaik), then using the bios emulation that boots windows may work for linux?Alternatively, there is elilo, an EFI-aware version of LILO (a boot manager, ubuntu defaults to GRUB) that can be used. Have a look at this debian howto <a class="user" href="http://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel,">http://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel,</a> and also rEFIit, a EFI for booting different OS's using EFI <a class="user" href="http://refit.sourceforge.net/.">http://refit.sourceforge.net/.</a> Finally, there's the linux on intel-mac wiki <a class="user" href="http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page.">http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page.</a>My housemate just brought an intel iMac, I will have to convince her to let me try putting linux on it, if only to learn how :)
dharmJun 24, 2006
the reason i posted this, is that anyone who is wanting to instal xgl on ubuntu already has a plethora of guides....the only reason they wouldnt have found one, is if they didnt know how to use a search engine, and or did not know what xgl is to begin with.
gookieJun 24, 2006
For those who have an Intel graphics card, I suggest to install AIGLX....it's smoother and faster...<a class="user" href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx</a>I have this installed on my D400 (Intel i855G) and compiz runs better on AIGLX than on XGL.:)
macewanJun 24, 2006
i've gone the aiglx route since it's easier on the resources with the intel i9* - previously tried xglfeeling kinda frisky this morning i'll give this tut* a try :-)
loneboatJun 24, 2006
"the reason i posted this, is that anyone who is wanting to instal xgl on ubuntu already has a plethora of guides....the only reason they wouldnt have found one, is if they didnt know how to use a search engine, and or did not know what xgl is to begin with."I think that's missing the point of Digg. It's purpose is not to be a place where you can go to look something up. That's what Wikipedia and Google are for. The point of Digg is to bring to your attention things which you wouldn't have thought to look up. I'm running Ubuntu, but hadn't heard of anyone getting Compiz and XGL running, but now I'm going to try it out. Whoo-hoo! Dugg.
rhettnyedotorgJun 24, 2006
i agree, this is not a stable system. my gnome desklets don't play nice, and firefox seems to be running worse than IE 3.0 on a 486nice looking though. i like to impress n00bs with it.
whiterajahJun 26, 2006
Can anyone confirm that they've managed to get this working by following this tutorial? I managed to hose my Ubuntu system a few days ago by trying out various different 'how to guides" and had to start over with a new installation. This was on a Toshiba notebook with ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7000 IGP graphics. Anyone know if that should be up to the task?
eddycJun 26, 2006
Try the second tutorial on this thread, worked for me <a class="user" href="http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389">http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389</a>