micropersuasion.com — "This morning I was recalling that Google and AOL have long promised to integrate their instant messaging platforms. It seems a little strange that there's been no communication on this. They probably hope everyone forgot. Microsoft and Yahoo had no trouble making this happen in under a year..."
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convergeDec 21, 2006
Miranda FTW!
wooteryDec 22, 2006
@whf"Their users have to add auth your first otherwise you can't initiate and auth or message them. Google still hasn't embraced open federation which makes them just as bad as AIM.".What?
whfsdudeDec 22, 2006
Wootery,I was referring to jabber authorization. Google doesn't allow "federation" to be initiated from other jabber servers. If you wanted to add someone or contact someone who uses google talk you have to e-mail them first, have them authorize your JID and then you can message them or send your auth.Basically Google has created a walled garden (like AIM) with the exception being that once a google users adds you you can communicate.The way they are doing 3rd party jabber "federation" is not the way jabber was designed to operate.Just to give you an example: Image, if in order for you to send an e-mail to a gmail user, you had to call them up (because you couldn't e-mail them), give them your e-mail address, they added you to their address book (hopefully they got your e-mail address correct). It'd be real annoying and people would be pissed off all the time. Well google is doing that for their GTalk implementation
applesuxleoDec 22, 2006
Google talk has users? Maybe they can make it work with Apple`s iChatwithmyself program?
volatileacidDec 22, 2006
My girlfriend at work uses it! It's the only client we can use to communicate! MSN, ICQ, etc are blocked! It's not too bad either! - though I think they need to make it easier to allow ones self to recieve offline messages.
puffycDec 22, 2006
Google and AIM don't interoperate because AOL doesn't want them to. Remember a few years ago when Microsoft kept hacking AIM interoperability into Messenger, then AOL would 'fix' something to break it again, then Microsoft would make it work again, then AOL would break it again... This went on for a while before Microsoft finally gave up. AOL doesn't want to interop, it's not a technical issue. It's a political issue at AOL and it's goal is to keep ther users locked in. They must coerce their users into staying because if they didn't how many people would still even be using AIM? Great business model AOL has there, btw.
keeganisafishOct 31, 2007
yeah and what about linux?