jessecurry.net— Article states what could be the reason that Digg commenting rarely results in a useful conversation, while Slashdot still maintains some level of conversation on stories.
Dec 12, 2006View in Crawl 4
@rationalist"Any critique of online community that starts, "the biggest problem is that people" misses the point. What you are pointing out is a flaw in the design, specifically the community architecture of the site. People will do what the design enables them to do."maybe, or maybe i just don't like the people. as it is right now the digg faq encourages people to digg down comments they "don't like" and in that sense there is no flaw in the design.
I am impressed with the variety of healthy and intuitive responses I see in this thread. I agree with a lot of them and I figured that I was just missing something when I noticed the missing reply button on some comments and not on others.I agree it should be possible to allow more than one reply. I also think the karma system is a brilliant idea. Timers on edits are sort of bad to me. Delete is a good thing to have for rational choices in commenting.Having no rebuke for bad behavior is something doomed to fail in any sort of practical example of pro-community forum. There is nothing to discourage such behavior and plenty of motivation for it with the thumbs up system rewarding them. Discussion is often broken with rows of unsightly buried comments as well and it gives me a sense of disruption that discourages me from continuing down to see the useful comments that might be there too.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
Just since my previous comment in this thread, my experience around Digg has shown yet more abuse of the comment ratings, so my personal recommendation is simply to scrap the whole idea. Not only is it obviously useless because of trolls, but when there's very many comments, the javascript involved in handling all the stuff necessary for the functionality is very cpu intensive, and adds to the overall page bloat of Digg (which is indeed very bloated).As such, I'd rather go back to having just having normal threaded comments.
Go into your profile, under the commented on open up all the pages of comments you wanna check in tabs. Then use the find to find ur name and go through them all. Thats what I do. But yes, would be nice if there was something more elegant.
passionateclerkDec 12, 2006
this one is even more useless because no one can reply to it :)
whiskeysquaredDec 13, 2006
That's what I do currently. Would love to see something built in.
zodiacalDec 13, 2006
just visit alterslash.org so you can see some of the great comments slashdot has. <a class="user" href="http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Alterslash.org_is_a_better_(3rd_party)_front-end_for_slashdot.">http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Alterslash.org_is_a_better_(3rd_party)_front-end_for_slashdot.</a>
camg188Dec 13, 2006
A slashdot-like reply to @Phegan: "Phegan, what is your source for those numbers?"
alexhhhhDec 13, 2006
@rationalist"Any critique of online community that starts, "the biggest problem is that people" misses the point. What you are pointing out is a flaw in the design, specifically the community architecture of the site. People will do what the design enables them to do."maybe, or maybe i just don't like the people. as it is right now the digg faq encourages people to digg down comments they "don't like" and in that sense there is no flaw in the design.
mistressroninsDec 13, 2006
I am impressed with the variety of healthy and intuitive responses I see in this thread. I agree with a lot of them and I figured that I was just missing something when I noticed the missing reply button on some comments and not on others.I agree it should be possible to allow more than one reply. I also think the karma system is a brilliant idea. Timers on edits are sort of bad to me. Delete is a good thing to have for rational choices in commenting.Having no rebuke for bad behavior is something doomed to fail in any sort of practical example of pro-community forum. There is nothing to discourage such behavior and plenty of motivation for it with the thumbs up system rewarding them. Discussion is often broken with rows of unsightly buried comments as well and it gives me a sense of disruption that discourages me from continuing down to see the useful comments that might be there too.
whereisianDec 14, 2006
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
fyberopticDec 14, 2006
Just since my previous comment in this thread, my experience around Digg has shown yet more abuse of the comment ratings, so my personal recommendation is simply to scrap the whole idea. Not only is it obviously useless because of trolls, but when there's very many comments, the javascript involved in handling all the stuff necessary for the functionality is very cpu intensive, and adds to the overall page bloat of Digg (which is indeed very bloated).As such, I'd rather go back to having just having normal threaded comments.
gizzaDec 14, 2006
Go into your profile, under the commented on open up all the pages of comments you wanna check in tabs. Then use the find to find ur name and go through them all. Thats what I do. But yes, would be nice if there was something more elegant.
gnutzuDec 18, 2006
Color code the age of a comment. Yes, I like it!
gnutzuDec 18, 2006
Yes. But, If you always want to be liked, then you either have to play politician or exclude yourself--and both of these suck.