wcsr.com— [.pdf file]. The subtitle to this article is: "When copyright owners stop selling older works, maybe pirates deserve some legal cover." Interesting read.
Aug 8, 2006View in Crawl 4
I'm not anti-piracy. There is a time and place for it, and I steal stuff all the time (come f**king get me, bitches).However, I think this proposal is ludicrous. Take for example, this:"Here’s my proposal: If a copyright owner won't continue to issue a work in a readily available format at a fair market price, then at some point the public's entitlement should take over and the law should no longer bar others from stepping in."That is just wrong on so many levels, and basically makes the the copyright holders rights null and void. Why even bother with a f**king copyright at all?Copyright gives the owner certain rights for distribution and compensation. It also gives the owner the right to stop distribution if they so desire.
I agree with Schleufer, who's to say what a "fair Market price" is? If something is in high demand, the fair market price would be a higher one. If the price is too high, the product doesn't sell well. Such an opinionated law can never exist.Music CDs cost too much. Sales of CDs plummited. Eventually they may be sold at cheaper rates. That's the beauty of capitalism. Personally, however, I find it frustrating when the only way to get a certain song is illegally. At this point, I find piracy to be completely acceptable. Why? Because I am not hurting the owner of the copyrighted material in any way.
@schleufer:what happens to material when it hasn't been republished since the demand for it goes down, and demand then later resurges? would you propose that now since the copyright holder clearly no longer cares about the material, and supply continues to dwindle, that reproduction continue to be barred and that people have to fight over what few copies remain? or would it truly be better for the demand to be satisfied by increasing supply by whatever means possible?what if all of a sudden a classic work still under copyright (let's use Lord of the Rings as an example) was simply pulled form the market? for the sake of argument, let's say Tolkien's son decided that the movies were good enough and he barred any new copies of the books from being printed. then what? those of us who actually want to read the book because of the movies have to fight over the copies that exist? why can't more copies be printed? if no new copies are being made by the copyright holder, and the demand for it exists, why should we be kept from it? why shouldn't the work then enter the public domain?the consequence of this is obvious: if you don't want your works to enter the public domain, then keep publishing it as long as demand exists during your copyright term! make your money rather than let the copyright pass. f**k, you get 70 years after you DIE to make your goddamned money. make use of it.
i think that most video game publishers are loose with going after ROM pirates for just this reason. they know it's not worth their time and effor to kick your ass for downloading a ROM of E.T. for the 2600, but they know you're breaking their copyrights. i'd like to see public domain on IP enact after say 10 years, but then we wouldn't have this great system where the beatles, hendrix, and such won't hit public domain for 100 years after disney finally acknowledges that mickey is too ingrained in modern culture to claim he's theres anymore.(god this must sound so incomprehensible to those that aren't farmiliar with the oddities of the US patent system and public domain.)
Nice read. It'd be great for music that's now out of print. I had Mike Doughty's Smofe + Smang CD a few years back. It was swiped from my car, along with a few other CD's. I would have gladly re-bought the CD, but now it's out of print. Normally I'd be out of luck, but through the magic of Bit Torrent, I can now listen to these gems by the ex-Soul Coughing front man.
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schleuferAug 9, 2006
I'm not anti-piracy. There is a time and place for it, and I steal stuff all the time (come f**king get me, bitches).However, I think this proposal is ludicrous. Take for example, this:"Here’s my proposal: If a copyright owner won't continue to issue a work in a readily available format at a fair market price, then at some point the public's entitlement should take over and the law should no longer bar others from stepping in."That is just wrong on so many levels, and basically makes the the copyright holders rights null and void. Why even bother with a f**king copyright at all?Copyright gives the owner certain rights for distribution and compensation. It also gives the owner the right to stop distribution if they so desire.
jzimmermanAug 9, 2006
Too bad it doesn't render more complicated PDF's with graphics in the layout properly.
cyberglitchAug 9, 2006
I agree with Schleufer, who's to say what a "fair Market price" is? If something is in high demand, the fair market price would be a higher one. If the price is too high, the product doesn't sell well. Such an opinionated law can never exist.Music CDs cost too much. Sales of CDs plummited. Eventually they may be sold at cheaper rates. That's the beauty of capitalism. Personally, however, I find it frustrating when the only way to get a certain song is illegally. At this point, I find piracy to be completely acceptable. Why? Because I am not hurting the owner of the copyrighted material in any way.
greyfadeAug 9, 2006
@schleufer:what happens to material when it hasn't been republished since the demand for it goes down, and demand then later resurges? would you propose that now since the copyright holder clearly no longer cares about the material, and supply continues to dwindle, that reproduction continue to be barred and that people have to fight over what few copies remain? or would it truly be better for the demand to be satisfied by increasing supply by whatever means possible?what if all of a sudden a classic work still under copyright (let's use Lord of the Rings as an example) was simply pulled form the market? for the sake of argument, let's say Tolkien's son decided that the movies were good enough and he barred any new copies of the books from being printed. then what? those of us who actually want to read the book because of the movies have to fight over the copies that exist? why can't more copies be printed? if no new copies are being made by the copyright holder, and the demand for it exists, why should we be kept from it? why shouldn't the work then enter the public domain?the consequence of this is obvious: if you don't want your works to enter the public domain, then keep publishing it as long as demand exists during your copyright term! make your money rather than let the copyright pass. f**k, you get 70 years after you DIE to make your goddamned money. make use of it.
carpespasmAug 9, 2006
i think that most video game publishers are loose with going after ROM pirates for just this reason. they know it's not worth their time and effor to kick your ass for downloading a ROM of E.T. for the 2600, but they know you're breaking their copyrights. i'd like to see public domain on IP enact after say 10 years, but then we wouldn't have this great system where the beatles, hendrix, and such won't hit public domain for 100 years after disney finally acknowledges that mickey is too ingrained in modern culture to claim he's theres anymore.(god this must sound so incomprehensible to those that aren't farmiliar with the oddities of the US patent system and public domain.)
cliplessAug 10, 2006
Nice read. It'd be great for music that's now out of print. I had Mike Doughty's Smofe + Smang CD a few years back. It was swiped from my car, along with a few other CD's. I would have gladly re-bought the CD, but now it's out of print. Normally I'd be out of luck, but through the magic of Bit Torrent, I can now listen to these gems by the ex-Soul Coughing front man.
supervapioApr 22, 2007
So... I can't open the link.
topicnationMay 1, 2007
Quite doubtful. Such things make me a bit crazy
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