blogs.zdnet.com — Why is AMD changing the name of its high-end desktop processor line from Athlon to Phenom? It?s a metaphor for the company's expectations for the chips, due out later this year. AMD is aiming for its Phenom to be just that; a marvel of performance and unit sales, representing a turn-around for the company.
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compismyrxMay 15, 2007
<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Phenom">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Phenom</a>
Closed AccountMay 15, 2007
@avatar*: From the first line of the article you posted, "Users with nForce3-based motherboards and ATI graphics cards could get a nasty surprise if they install Windows Vista." If that doesn't underscore the persistently sad state of ATi drivers, I don't know what does. Has nothing to do with Nvidia.
putoMay 15, 2007
He's been losing lately. He's no longer the phenom.
localdocalMay 15, 2007
@sv650touring (#6692383) said: "I think if you call yourself a fanboy, then you aren't a fanboy. Saying that puts what you say into context, and thus isn't misleading the way that a true fanboy's comment would be. You're just an AMD fan, and that is pretty reasonable."Er, no, an attribute of fanboyism is not being blind to it. By definition, a fanboy is merely someone who is dedicated to something, and refuses to try the competition. So the only way you can not be a fanboy is to be willing to try all products instead of sticking to one for superficial reasons.
Closed AccountMay 15, 2007
@daridaveOh yeah? Well my desktop is still on Socket 754. I rock it old school. Since I've moved to almost exclusively laptops though, it looks like my next one will be a Core 2, unless the Phenom beats them on the performance/watt scale.
Closed AccountMay 15, 2007
I prefer the AMD Duof**ker myself.
hootpieMay 15, 2007
It better beat the C2D at the very least. It needs to outperform the Penryn unless AMD wants to be put to shame again.
tomz17May 15, 2007
My last PC was an AMD. My work PC is an AMD. My current PC is a Core 2. I have looked at price to performance VERY carefully... Half a year ago, it was still in AMD's favor (especially if you used a socket 939 and already had DDR memory lying around).. but today, you are smoking something really funny if you look at the numbers and still come to the conclusion that the price/performance crown goes to AMD. As an example, a 6000+ X2 is $229. An e6600 is $225. The e6600 wins almost every benchmark at STOCK SPEED.If you toss in the outrageous overclock-ability of the C2Duo's the word slaughter doesn't even seem appropriate (an e6300 can EASILY be clocked WAY faster than an X2 6000+ overclocked on AIR WITH THE STOCK COOLER and it only costs $166.)
avatarrebMay 16, 2007
@popfrogsInteresting theory, but please don't make things up. If you bothered to click on the link to AMD's support site you would realize that AMD is aware of the issue and have their hand's tied because the chipset won't fully support AGP+nforce3+Vista. Further, Nvidia has acknowledged the problem on their end but haven't been forthcoming with an update, but they said they would consider it. VIA and SiS have already fixed the issue with their chipsets, Nvidia however does not appear to care about AGP support in Vista, leaving the door slammed on many users with relatively powerful systems.From AMD: <a class="user" href="http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=24498">http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=24498</a>?This issue has been seen with other AGP chipsets such as VIA and SiS but has since been resolved by chipset driver updates from these manufacturers. AMD?s AGP adapters require correctly functioning AGP support from the operating system in order to run the WDDM driver under Vista. This WDDM driver has no way of working around the absence of AGP support.SolutionPlease contact NVidia Corp. (www.nvidia.com) for more information on this issue.?
ussoldierMay 16, 2007
AMD's switching to AM2 socket was as big a blundering fiasco, as switching to the Itanium architecture was for Intel.
chandonMay 17, 2007
tomz17 -If you start your comparison at above the performance level of the AMD chips, they obviously can't compete. That doesn't change the fact that, in the price range that AMD Althlon 64 x2 chips currently exist (i.e. the $65 to $200 range), they offer reasonably competitive performance. The extreme example is the Athlon 64 x2 3600+ - Intel just doesn't have anything that can produce that performance at anywhere near that price point.
nosatalianApr 27, 2008
>3. Many enhancements for virtual machines. This will enhance Java, .NET, 32 >bit code running under a 64 bit OS, and any sort of Host/Guest Operating >system scheme.Hardware virtualization support, such as VT-X, VT-D, EPT and NPT has nothing to do with .Net or Java. Although these are called Virtual Machines, like the JVM, they aren't really- since they don't virtualizate _real_ hardware, only imaginary hardware. They are essentially "byte code interpreters", some of which can do JIT compilation, but this is completely different from real virtualization such as VMware (which these additional enhancements will help).