ocirs.com— A brief summary of the history of AMD and an interesting analysis on what made it great and how it's losing to rapidly losing ground to Intel because of the deficiencies of Phenom.
Dec 1, 2007View in Crawl 4
Its difficult for the author to point blame at AMD for not "Innovating". Intel have much more funding for research and better fabrication plants. AMD can't manufacture 45nm, hell they just moved to 65nm. I strongly doubt that AMD are resting on their laurels, this stuff isn't easy to design you know.Pentium D was a cheap stickytape, smoothed over by the marketers.
AM2 was done, documented and on the shelves for 3 years before it hit the market, I think they're downfall was even having a socket 939. Really, it seemed like a blip on radar anyway. they should have had the foresight to stick with a scalable design. now they've got as many socket designs as cpu's.
AMD acquisition of ATI has left them stretched and laking the resources to keep up they are moving toward their own systems motherboard graphics card and processors under one company and the CPU/GPU project Fusion is proof of this it could turn out to be a revolution yielding great performance but for now the cost is too high for AMD
I agree with toadleg. There is very little difference when i ran a qx6700 intel quad against an AMD 1207 fx (/FX-74). The results where so dominating over Intels price for performance. No significant difference in the AMD5000 vs Intel e6400 all the way up to Intel qx6700 vs AMD FX-74. The ONLY advantage that Intel has is the Ability to Multitask Smoother than AMD. BUT IT IS TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DESIGNS. AMD Concentrated on FSB and Intel on CACHE so they are balanced in performance when it comes to games. Another note:::: AT MOST 5% of software, programs, or PC Games actually use all four cores, so intel is WASTING money by making these extra series. OH AND ONE WORD DOMINATES INTEL CPU's """""Front Side Bus""""" watch what happens when DDR3 is mainstreamed and see who dominates the market then. AMD can sit back knowing that intel wont be able to utilize there c2d's for DDR3 HAHAHA SUCKERS awww , what? intel only has 1333mhz fsb and amd can have easily 2600fsb. THAT MEANS TWICE THE LOAD AND PERFORMANCE so they can soon compare to intels cache when DDR3 really takes off.
once again people and there "theories". That AMD AM2 5000+ x2, would smoke that little e2140, and all the way up to Core2Duo E6300, as it has been proven through several benchmarks. I think the main thing you need to realize is AMD had the FX-74 ""DUAL CORE"" that performed damn near as good as the Core2Quad QX6700 """QUAD CORE"""....and that was done by several people on futuremark.com using several benchmarks and several builds. So explain to me how an AMD FX-74 can almost compare to an intel QUAD EXTREME but yet only have 2 cores LOL common since is kinda needed here! AMD ATHLON AM2 FX-74 = $174.99 AMD Intel Core2Quad Extreme QX6700 =$986.00 get the picture?
xaxxonDec 3, 2007
yeah.. amd pulled phenom out of its ass.. but unfortunately it smelled like s**t. Their s**t needs to not stink.
prod_deityDec 3, 2007
don't you remember the ghz myth stated by apple, and that PowerPC is better than inte.....nevermind.
chrislewisDec 3, 2007
Its difficult for the author to point blame at AMD for not "Innovating". Intel have much more funding for research and better fabrication plants. AMD can't manufacture 45nm, hell they just moved to 65nm. I strongly doubt that AMD are resting on their laurels, this stuff isn't easy to design you know.Pentium D was a cheap stickytape, smoothed over by the marketers.
tardpicardDec 3, 2007
AM2 was done, documented and on the shelves for 3 years before it hit the market, I think they're downfall was even having a socket 939. Really, it seemed like a blip on radar anyway. they should have had the foresight to stick with a scalable design. now they've got as many socket designs as cpu's.
camg188Dec 3, 2007
Then Neweggs price list.
wolfwood72Dec 31, 2007
AMD acquisition of ATI has left them stretched and laking the resources to keep up they are moving toward their own systems motherboard graphics card and processors under one company and the CPU/GPU project Fusion is proof of this it could turn out to be a revolution yielding great performance but for now the cost is too high for AMD
fuzioncomputersJan 30, 2008
I agree with toadleg. There is very little difference when i ran a qx6700 intel quad against an AMD 1207 fx (/FX-74). The results where so dominating over Intels price for performance. No significant difference in the AMD5000 vs Intel e6400 all the way up to Intel qx6700 vs AMD FX-74. The ONLY advantage that Intel has is the Ability to Multitask Smoother than AMD. BUT IT IS TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DESIGNS. AMD Concentrated on FSB and Intel on CACHE so they are balanced in performance when it comes to games. Another note:::: AT MOST 5% of software, programs, or PC Games actually use all four cores, so intel is WASTING money by making these extra series. OH AND ONE WORD DOMINATES INTEL CPU's """""Front Side Bus""""" watch what happens when DDR3 is mainstreamed and see who dominates the market then. AMD can sit back knowing that intel wont be able to utilize there c2d's for DDR3 HAHAHA SUCKERS awww , what? intel only has 1333mhz fsb and amd can have easily 2600fsb. THAT MEANS TWICE THE LOAD AND PERFORMANCE so they can soon compare to intels cache when DDR3 really takes off.
fuzioncomputersJan 31, 2008
once again people and there "theories". That AMD AM2 5000+ x2, would smoke that little e2140, and all the way up to Core2Duo E6300, as it has been proven through several benchmarks. I think the main thing you need to realize is AMD had the FX-74 ""DUAL CORE"" that performed damn near as good as the Core2Quad QX6700 """QUAD CORE"""....and that was done by several people on futuremark.com using several benchmarks and several builds. So explain to me how an AMD FX-74 can almost compare to an intel QUAD EXTREME but yet only have 2 cores LOL common since is kinda needed here! AMD ATHLON AM2 FX-74 = $174.99 AMD Intel Core2Quad Extreme QX6700 =$986.00 get the picture?
lolo2007Mar 2, 2008
I'm pretty disappointed with AMD. Ever since the Intel Core, then Core 2 last year, AMD has been getting beated up pretty hard. I'm going to be either buying or building a new 'puter in a few months. It's probably going to be Intel, even though I hate Intel. I want to buy AMD, but the Intel product is so superior now, I can't ignore that.<a class="user" href="http://download.paramegsoft.com/">http://download.paramegsoft.com/</a><a class="user" href="http://game.paramegsoft.com/">http://game.paramegsoft.com/</a>