arstechnica.com— There's a new development from yesterday's story on wholesale download pricing. While the record labels are still unwilling to divulge their wholesale pricing structure for online music sales in UMG...
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I am only digging this because this band doesn't sound that bad.@baxtermadduxI would assume there are a lot of web designers that don't know you can sell downloadable goods on PayPal. I didn't know until just now.
James, it isn't illegal to buy music from allofmp3, just as it wouldn't be illegal to import any other product from Russia (could you go there and buy a cd and bring it back? yes.). It is however illegal for them to sell it to you, because their license to sell music only extends to Russia, not to the USA...which, is why you don't see RIAA lawyers going after allofmp3 users, but you do see them going after allofmp3.
@ISVDamoclesI'd challenge your idea that rap groups have maintained strength thanks to indie labels. Rap music has become incresingly popular and so has the artists. That might make more A/R reps interested in giving a shot to a rap group vs a rock group, but thats it.There are a ton of indie rock labels that loose artists to bigger labels.Dont get me wrong i dont think labels are some altruistic company trying to help these artists, but their job requires creating successful bands. Yes most companies have horrible contracts that lock artists into multiple album production contracts, and yes they are afraid of changing the sound of music, BUT they do provide a service to the musician.
"Yeah, but thats where musicians make all their money. They get crap all form CD sales, the record label takes all that money."However, if their records don't sell, the record company won't want to continue promoting them, so until a band can make it without their label, we need to buy their records, too.
@ MikeCampbell:I refuse to pay money to sample music to see if I will enjoy it. Whether it's for a physical copy or a digital one, I want to know that my money will be well spent. It's similar to test driving a car before buying it, renting a video game before you purchase it, trying on a pair of jeans to make sure they fit before you drop upwards of $50 on them.I mostly listen to bands that I can either buy the album directly from the artist themselves by walking up after a (non-ClearChannel sponsored, $10) show, talking to a member of the band, and personally handing them my $10-15. If I have already decided do download the album, I will go to a show of theirs and hand them $10 and say "I downloaded your album, here's my reimbursement from me to you."Simple as that. Being able to place the money directly in the artists hands is what I want to be able to do. If it's not possible because the RIAA feels the need to figuratively rape the artists and consumers, then so be it. I won't spend money that will go to an organization who claims to look out for the artists, but does something totally different in practice. If the artists end up caught in the crossfire, it's unfortunate but something that I feel is neccessary before these artists finally realize that they're the one's who have the largest say in how the RIAA should be running, and that the consumers are virtually powerless in this whole debacle.
Support local and indie artists. Don't attend ClearChannel sponsored shows. When possible, buy the music directly from the artist. If you can hand the money directly to them in person, all the better. If you do happen to download the music, find a way to send the artist the amount of money you think the music is worth. $5, $10, $20, whatever.
frankieb078Jan 5, 2007
I am only digging this because this band doesn't sound that bad.@baxtermadduxI would assume there are a lot of web designers that don't know you can sell downloadable goods on PayPal. I didn't know until just now.
waterdragonJan 5, 2007
Consider this: The Free Music Philosophy (v1.4)<a class="user" href="http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp.html">http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp.html</a>
wendelgee2Jan 5, 2007
James, it isn't illegal to buy music from allofmp3, just as it wouldn't be illegal to import any other product from Russia (could you go there and buy a cd and bring it back? yes.). It is however illegal for them to sell it to you, because their license to sell music only extends to Russia, not to the USA...which, is why you don't see RIAA lawyers going after allofmp3 users, but you do see them going after allofmp3.
thejokkerJan 5, 2007
@ISVDamoclesI'd challenge your idea that rap groups have maintained strength thanks to indie labels. Rap music has become incresingly popular and so has the artists. That might make more A/R reps interested in giving a shot to a rap group vs a rock group, but thats it.There are a ton of indie rock labels that loose artists to bigger labels.Dont get me wrong i dont think labels are some altruistic company trying to help these artists, but their job requires creating successful bands. Yes most companies have horrible contracts that lock artists into multiple album production contracts, and yes they are afraid of changing the sound of music, BUT they do provide a service to the musician.
mmortal03Jan 5, 2007
"Yeah, but thats where musicians make all their money. They get crap all form CD sales, the record label takes all that money."However, if their records don't sell, the record company won't want to continue promoting them, so until a band can make it without their label, we need to buy their records, too.
sleepwalkersJan 5, 2007
@ MikeCampbell:I refuse to pay money to sample music to see if I will enjoy it. Whether it's for a physical copy or a digital one, I want to know that my money will be well spent. It's similar to test driving a car before buying it, renting a video game before you purchase it, trying on a pair of jeans to make sure they fit before you drop upwards of $50 on them.I mostly listen to bands that I can either buy the album directly from the artist themselves by walking up after a (non-ClearChannel sponsored, $10) show, talking to a member of the band, and personally handing them my $10-15. If I have already decided do download the album, I will go to a show of theirs and hand them $10 and say "I downloaded your album, here's my reimbursement from me to you."Simple as that. Being able to place the money directly in the artists hands is what I want to be able to do. If it's not possible because the RIAA feels the need to figuratively rape the artists and consumers, then so be it. I won't spend money that will go to an organization who claims to look out for the artists, but does something totally different in practice. If the artists end up caught in the crossfire, it's unfortunate but something that I feel is neccessary before these artists finally realize that they're the one's who have the largest say in how the RIAA should be running, and that the consumers are virtually powerless in this whole debacle.
sleepwalkersJan 5, 2007
Support local and indie artists. Don't attend ClearChannel sponsored shows. When possible, buy the music directly from the artist. If you can hand the money directly to them in person, all the better. If you do happen to download the music, find a way to send the artist the amount of money you think the music is worth. $5, $10, $20, whatever.
bleyisDec 24, 2008
It just proves that the music industry is greedy, expecting to still earn billions despite cheaper and more direct to consumer sales path. <a class="user" href="http://about-salehoo.com">http://about-salehoo.com</a>
spectromx5Feb 12, 2009
Can get tracks for nickels and dimes now... hell some ALBUMS even go for 70 cents on Soundlike.<a class="user" href="http://www.verified-wholesalers.com">http://www.verified-wholesalers.com</a>