37signals.com — Clocking in at a stunning 35 clicks, the video shows that installing a script debugger in the new operating system is not only not made any easier, but it still takes a series of hoop jumps. They offer the same process in OS X for comparison.
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stonekeeperOct 26, 2006
@junkmail02You are forgetting something about digg:microsoft < windows < cringely < sony < osx < linux < ubuntu < kevin rose
luchidOct 26, 2006
Hmmm... every day the same thing happens. If an article that exposes something that's wrong with a Microsoft product reaches the front page in the morning every single comment about how frustrating it is to deal with Windows/IE gets modded to oblivion. But it's not the same in the afternoons or at night. In fact, the opposite happens.
blinksOct 26, 2006
That's an interesting opinion.
kapowazOct 26, 2006
As far as I can tell, the majority of the criticisms of how Sam followed the installation route through revolve around:1. He didn't have the WGA plugin installed, therefore he stupidly chose the most difficult path. Duh!2. Well, you can disable all those security dialogs anyway, so duh!First issue; not everyone wants to install plugins in their browser. For me, I hate it when I have to install ActiveX plugins just to do something on a site - especially something as basic as downloading a file (hello?!). I do the exact same thing as Sam did every time I download an update via the Microsoft site; I download the awkward little validation program and paste the little code into a box.Secondly; how is disabling security messages a solution? This to me is a clear demonstration of how Microsoft simply do not grok security. The biggest problem with XP is that the security model allows generic users to do damage to their system. Or, more specifically, any application that the user is running can do that damage. Prompting the user to ensure they want to do a certain thing is one way of ensuring that damage isn't done, but disabling *all* of these messages is disastrous. It's actually what I imagine most people will do, and so the security problems with Windows will persist.Frankly I'm amazed that this demonstration even provoked such suggestions as that the way Sam proceeded was stupid. We're talking about an intelligent developer whose CV includes the Prototype JavaScript library, not an average Joe Public, and still the process was baffling and frustrating. How well does that bode?
Closed AccountOct 26, 2006
Anyone else notice that when you play this video with VLC in Windows, the mouse doesn't show up, the windows don't show up, the only thing you see is the desktop background and explorer components for 2 minutes.Hm....... could this possibly be a fake?Works in Quicktime though.
Closed AccountOct 26, 2006
I was halfway enjoying Vista over XP for a while... To me it was basically the same, but with more eye candy, and it ran great on my laptop.Then I tried to delete a file. It wanted admin rights, which I provided. It said access denied. I tried everything many times: renaming it, moving it, sending to recycling bin. Nothing. A few minutes after I gave up, the file just disappeared on its own.Disappearing files? No thanks. See ya Vista.
zacmccormickOct 26, 2006
Insanely lame article. So we compare how many clicks it takes to install 2 completely unrelated (possibly completely different features and requirements, for one I know the MS debugger in this article is a standalone application that debugs more than just JavaScript) on 2 different systems and then draw a conslusion that one is better for all types of software? GIVE ME A BREAK.MS could have made a 1 click exe to do it all for you with 0 options or anything and it would have won this contest, of course it might have installed to a bunk location, or made some other faulty assumption. The point is, it is absurd to compare the quality of 2 platforms by comparing the number of mouse clicks it takes to install some random component. I thought they had some common sense over at 37signals..... guess not.Marked lame.