tutorialblog.org— Round up 25 of the Best CSS, scripts, html, javascript, Ajax and widgets that you can use on on your website or blog (Part 5) .....
May 17, 2007View in Crawl 4
Well if the other one was popular, do the people who like it not have the mental capacity to look on the website themselves for Part 5? Seems slightly redundant but I guess the reminder is nice
@djloschI was about to make a bunch of rash assumptions about programmers that think they can design. Fortunately, I viewed your website and every one of my generalizations were validated.There are many reasons to hire a web designer as opposed to a web developer. The main one is because the designers can always be taught how to code properly, but programmers can never be taught how to design properly. Your site is a great example of that.
@Moby22:I agree with you, but my whole point was expressed in my last sentence: "when they are forced to learn programming out of necessity".It has come to a point where it's hard for a designer to find internships or jobs where only designing skills are required; unless it's only for print design. Even people with no programming ability (hey, most of us are bad with math, algorithms and stuff - like most programmers are with graphics. There's a reason we've chosen a more artistic path) need to do a half-assed job in programming or they won't get the job at all.And even for a freelance designer, when clients need a website that they can update by themselves, they don't really like the idea of being presented with a free CMS, or when we have to outsource the development of a custom CMS - and charge accordingly.When you design a poster for print, you deliver the file and that's it. Nobody expects you to operate printing machines and print out the thousands of copies by yourself - and still deliver a competitive price. However, if you can only design a layout, but not the whole site, you're worthless. People say "That's nothing. It doesn't exist yet. You've got to make it real". Arrogant programmers even think they're superior because of that. The whole thing is really unfavorable for web designers who are just that - designers.So if someone is good or enjoys doing both, more power to them, and it's very well deserved that they get the jobs the rest is not as well prepared to. But good, capable designers miss opportunities for less qualified people who are more of a jack-of-all-trades than accomplished professionals, and is really a shame that this has become the norm. In the end, everyone loses.
floodyberryMay 18, 2007
Why did keepclear submit this (for the third time) when the last time it hit the front page was 13 days ago? Did not enough designers see it the first two times?<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/design/25_Killer_Code_Snippets_every_Good_Designer_Should_See_2">http://digg.com/design/25_Killer_Code_Snippets_every_Good_Designer_Should_See_2</a>
kris33May 18, 2007
This is part 5. The previous was part 4. This is a completely new article.
Closed AccountMay 18, 2007
Well if the other one was popular, do the people who like it not have the mental capacity to look on the website themselves for Part 5? Seems slightly redundant but I guess the reminder is nice
tfb1ftb1May 18, 2007
+ 1
tfb1ftb1May 18, 2007
Now they are just copying.... screen shots from <a class="user" href="http://www.miniajax.com">http://www.miniajax.com</a>& links from <a class="user" href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com">http://www.smashingmagazine.com</a>It is normal?
moreshethMay 18, 2007
@djloschI was about to make a bunch of rash assumptions about programmers that think they can design. Fortunately, I viewed your website and every one of my generalizations were validated.There are many reasons to hire a web designer as opposed to a web developer. The main one is because the designers can always be taught how to code properly, but programmers can never be taught how to design properly. Your site is a great example of that.
inkubuxMay 18, 2007
One of the rare "css/web2.0" thing that has been usefull on digg :)
resplenceMay 19, 2007
@Moby22:I agree with you, but my whole point was expressed in my last sentence: "when they are forced to learn programming out of necessity".It has come to a point where it's hard for a designer to find internships or jobs where only designing skills are required; unless it's only for print design. Even people with no programming ability (hey, most of us are bad with math, algorithms and stuff - like most programmers are with graphics. There's a reason we've chosen a more artistic path) need to do a half-assed job in programming or they won't get the job at all.And even for a freelance designer, when clients need a website that they can update by themselves, they don't really like the idea of being presented with a free CMS, or when we have to outsource the development of a custom CMS - and charge accordingly.When you design a poster for print, you deliver the file and that's it. Nobody expects you to operate printing machines and print out the thousands of copies by yourself - and still deliver a competitive price. However, if you can only design a layout, but not the whole site, you're worthless. People say "That's nothing. It doesn't exist yet. You've got to make it real". Arrogant programmers even think they're superior because of that. The whole thing is really unfavorable for web designers who are just that - designers.So if someone is good or enjoys doing both, more power to them, and it's very well deserved that they get the jobs the rest is not as well prepared to. But good, capable designers miss opportunities for less qualified people who are more of a jack-of-all-trades than accomplished professionals, and is really a shame that this has become the norm. In the end, everyone loses.
sasha211May 2, 2008
absolutely amazing...good work..thanks