dailygalaxy.com — Thirty years ago the new Chinese city of Shenzhen did not exist. Today, with the help of U.S. defense contractors, the booming city is a model for a high-tech police state 2.0. And, according to some authorities, it's ready for export.
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lucidmarblesMay 21, 2008
Viola407 the Chinese gov't blocks access to websites they dont think are are "appropriate" for you to be viewing. Hangly just wait till the govt requires RFID chips in IDs and those CCTV cameras have sensors. Sounds fun to me. Btw RFID will soon be in all U.S. passports. Wooo Hooo
speerrossMay 21, 2008
"This group you talk about is not a nation."You don't need to be a nation to leverage control. Remember something like 51 of the world 100 largest economies are NOT nations, but corporations (I first read this in The Shock Doctrine by Noami Klein but an article about it also recently hit digg front page). Empires have always been about economic wealth, pre-world war II this empires were created by military force and political control, post world war II America showed it was possible to leverage control over the economy only albeit with a little political meddling. The people controlling the largest economies, thus the majority of the wealth, control the world. The sovereignty of the nation state is dieing.
phillesh69May 22, 2008
You mean it should be interpreted to allow the modern infantry weapons of the day?I sort of agree, but I don't know if I want my neigbor playing with is 105mm howitzer in his backyard every saturday morning. ;)
harry8227May 22, 2008
Well the United States and Great Briton are well on their way as well
phillesh69May 23, 2008
America does that too, eShinn. They started it with kiddy-porn and child molesters, going after people who go on "child sex vacations" to South America and South East Asia, to get people to accept the concept, then they expanded it to many other crimes.This is a new concept in police state thinking. Old school police states were concerned with what happens inside their regime's territory. Now they go after people even if they are not breaking local laws, simply because they are citizens of a country that has laws against that act.For example, the age of consent in Germany and most of Europe is 16, so theoretically, the US government could arrest a 19 year old who went to Germany and had sex with a 16 year old. He didn't break any laws as far as Germany was concerned, and even though US law is only meant to "protect" people living in or visiting America, they could prosecute him anyway.At some point, they'll prosecute people for going to Amsterdam and smoking a joint. And they'll give speeding tickets to people who go to Germany and go above 55 mph on German highways that do not have speed limits.
phillesh69May 23, 2008
China had a significant deep water naval fleet long before the Europeans did. During the Ming Dynasty, in the 1400s. They explored all the way to the persian gulf. Then the next emperor ordered all the boats burned, and China turned inward.China's fault is an inward looking way of thinking, a communal mentality (which is beneficial at the community/local level, thus the term communal) but does not lend to expansion or interacting with outside communities and nations.
antonycaoMay 26, 2008
A totalitarian system doesn't equal to lack of creativity, checks and balances and a level playing field.You are just living in your own little bubble created by your education.
antonycaoMay 26, 2008
a 8.0 earthquake is hundreds times more powerful than a 6.9 earthquake in general. And SF is one of the wealthiest area in China while Northern Sichuan is one of the poorest in China.Sichuan has about 100 million people while SF has less than 10 million.go figure.
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