alternet.org — During the election, the Mormon Church pumped hundreds of thousands of dollars into the push to ban same-sex marriages in California -- a campaign that deprived people in a different state of a fundamental civil right.
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pedwidgetFeb 11, 2009
1,000,000 misled robots. Do a little research people.DIGGIdiot sheep bleet away.
al3efromanFeb 11, 2009
okay, let me get this straight.I was allowed to marry my partner under the law but that upset people, so they took action within the law to change that, clearly targeting a very specific group of people.Now I can't marry my partner, but somehow, seeking to use the law to change this is just sour grapes because part of that is to call into question the actions of a religious organization within the realm of political influence peddling?I get it now, your just spouting hypocrisy but shrouding it in a persecution complex.
rptrrwrFeb 12, 2009
I'm not religious but...amen.I think that's how you say it right?
tuftFeb 12, 2009
This is stupid, in no way is getting a million votes going to strip the mormon church of their Tax exempt status. I buried this article as being retarted. I don't care bury me.
chordonblueFeb 15, 2009
Sometimes straight logic is all you should need to prove a point.
Closed AccountFeb 16, 2009
Human-animal marriage, unlike same-sex marriage, involves issues of consent. Two homosexual partners can consent to marriage, whereas an animal (or child) is mentally incapable of consent.
xeleratedFeb 25, 2009
Do you have any reference for what you say? Because I have some to the contrary. And its not a law, it was a quote from Jefferson in a letter. So stop quoting it people since you CLEARLY do not understand it.Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.
rzoroasterApr 11, 2009
This is retarded. It was the members of the church that put forward all that money, not the church itself. That makes a big difference from a legal standpoint. This can never succeed and just hurts the gay rights movement in the long run. We can't create a larger rift between the "religious" and "gays" it just reinforces the stereotype that gays are the harbingers of the apocalypse.
moregoodmanApr 23, 2009
Interesting how people ranting and raving about so-called "rights" angrily attack members of the Mormon Church who simply exercised their God-given and American right to vote.Besides, there were obviously thousands of other people and organizations involved in passing Prop 8.Why single out members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
scheibeSep 2, 2009
There is no "separation of Church and state" in the constitution. Have you ever actually read it?"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."Congress can't make any laws prohibiting 1 establishment of religion2 prohibit the free exercise there of;3 prohibit the freedom of speech4 assemble, protest and petition government.No where in the constitution does it give government the power to tax anyone or any organization because someone doesn't like them. To do so would be unconstitutional. If the government did only what it should under the constitution we wouldn't have half the problems we do now.Mormons or more properly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have the perfect right to do what every they want and also the Catholics and all the other church groups in California that supported the proposition. Also don't forget that the majority of the PEOPLE of the state of California voted this proposition in, not the "Mormons." If you don't like it move to some other state where it is allowed. If you don't like that a church or any person that disagrees with you has freedom to do so, find some Fascist country to live in where you'll be happy and get the hell out of America!
scheibeSep 2, 2009
There is no "separation of Church and state" in the constitution. Have you ever actually read it?"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."Congress can't make any laws prohibiting 1 establishment of religion2 prohibit the free exercise there of;3 prohibit the freedom of speech4 assemble, protest and petition government.No where in the constitution does it give government the power to tax anyone or any organization because someone doesn't like them. To do so would be unconstitutional. If the government did only what it should under the constitution we wouldn't have half the problems we do now.Mormons or more properly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have the perfect right to do what every they want and also the Catholics and all the other church groups in California that supported the proposition. Also don't forget that the majority of the PEOPLE of the state of California voted this proposition in, not the "Mormons." If you don't like it move to some other state where it is allowed. If you don't like that a church or any person that disagrees with you has freedom to do so, find some Fascist country to live in where you'll be happy and get the hell out of America!
4point6Dec 16, 2009
Tax 'em all and let god sort 'em out.