archive.org — Great look back at the state of computer games in this TV show from 1984. Includes appearances by Trip Hawkins of Electronic Arts, Bill Budge, and Steve Kitchen from Activision.You've got to see the "state of the art!"
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mikeazorinDec 6, 2005
Mirror: ftp://ia300125.us.archive.org/2/items/Computer1984_4/Computer1984_4.mpeg
Closed AccountDec 6, 2005
The LARGER version is torrented here:<a class="user" href="http://www.epicconstructions.com/blogtorrent/">http://www.epicconstructions.com/blogtorrent/</a>This one is Computer1984_4_edit.mp4
masterzoraDec 6, 2005
@felch:"Of course, I could be totally wrong, and you could be right. Maybe you should start your own social bookmarking site to compete with Digg, and prove your point."The problem with that is that the only reason Digg took off is because it had a celebrity promoting it. I'm sorry I don't happen to have the same celebrity status necessary.Though I still have to ask you this:The United States can be said to be, for all intents and purposes, user-driven. Now, if a large portion of the population started mass murders, would you support the population murdering, saying it's a natural evolution, or would you support the minority saying that they should just follow the rules?I know that posting crap links isn't exactly akin to murder, but extreme examples are often the best arguments."Masterzora, you wouldn't happen to be Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons, would you?"You caught me but, shhhh, don't tell!
captainfutureDec 6, 2005
@milo_hoffmanOMG. I'm wetting my pants. This is so cool.
sangsaraDec 6, 2005
That space shuttle guy, steve kitchen, looks like an 80s John Carmack, uncanny resemblance!
felchdonkeyDec 6, 2005Submitter
@masteroza:I believe you are getting dangerously close to the invocation of Godwin's Law, or Reductio ad Hitlerum.In your case, you are using the idea that allowing people any freedoms ultimately leads to the extreme of sanctioned murder. Essentially, reductio ad absurdum. Please re-present your argument without a fallacy.
solvableDec 6, 2005
Oh my friends, We have come a far way.However if you ask me, computers were far more interesting back in the day. The 80s owned.
felchdonkeyDec 6, 2005Submitter
@masterzora: (this is fun)You're calling an ad populum, but I could just as easily counter that you are using argumentum ad verecundiam. The deciding factor is in the original premise. If the premise is that Digg should be governed by immutable rules set by fiat, then your argument wins. If the premise is that Digg belongs at least in part to its users, and its success depends on them, then an ad populum argument is completely valid.The test of the premise, in my opinion, is the very existence of this thread. If the creators of Digg intended to police strict interpretations of "news" as "breaking news," then it would A) Be clearly defined in the FAQ.B) Actually be policed.As a counterexample, I can show you a story that actually was policed by Digg today. I posted a link to a video recently (secretly) shot of Kate Moss during a topless modelling shoot. It stayed up long enough to get 39 diggs, but was presumably taken off by Digg due to the content. While it's not in the FAQ, it's not too much to presume that the fact that it contains nudity (albeit grainy and B&W) was sufficient to cause it to be policed.Try searching for "Kate Moss" or looking in the Movies section, you won't find it. Look at my Digg page, though, and it's there.Clearly, policing of articles DOES occur on Digg, and this article does not fall under the umbrella of things that need to be policed.Therefore, the question of strict rules (authority) vs. loose but enforcable guidelines (the people) seems to fall squarely in the court of populism. In that case, an ad populum argument prevails over argumentum ad verecundiam. Therefore, this article belongs on Digg.QED.***"Oh dear", says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic."Oh that was easy" says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing. ***
felchdonkeyDec 7, 2005Submitter
milo_hoffman said it best - this was the best thing we had before TechTV. I just went back and watched the show about Apple II vs. the new Macintosh - it was amazing to see what they were doing with the old Apple II technology even after the Mac was gaining ground.There's a product demo from Activision of a Photoshop-like application, running on an Apple IIgs! They had a great tool called "slippy colors" that I'd like to have, even today...
cheech26Dec 7, 2005
Man, I remeber matching this show on PBS.