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Closed AccountSep 9, 2010
Probably. Dude took money all of 'college', if we can even call USC college.
karlvizmatikSep 9, 2010
we can't, it's a university.
guitarpunkSep 9, 2010
Yes. Not because he cheated, but because he was dating kim kardashian. Having both is too much for one man.
silverbaxSep 9, 2010
Instead of trying to punish Bush or the university, they should punish the agents to the full extent of the law. Oh, wait, that's right, none of this was ever actually illegal...either now or then. What was the question again? You want to take away a meaningless trophy because the player broke some meaningless rules? Sure, do whatever you want - it's your Land of Make Believe.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
njankSep 9, 2010
hooray for perspective and common sense. If it was three weeks ago I'd have dugg you three times.
stubearSep 9, 2010
The NCAA has the authority to impose rules and regulations on College level sports. Reggie Bush and USC broke these rules. While not illegal by any local, state or federal statutes or laws, it is "illegal" based on the rules put forth by the NCAA and agreed upon by the Colleges and Universities that want to be a part of the NCAA. The Heisman Trust has decided they agree with the NCAA and after their own investigation found Reggie Bush violated NCAA rules while at USC. He is therefore ineligible for the Heisman Trophy and should have never been awarded it in the first place. Dismissing the rules and the trophy as meaningless means you are incapable of arguing the merits of the case and merely wish to impose your world views on everyone else. The only land of make believe is the one you are living in.
thatkidrich44Sep 9, 2010
No. He didn't run faster because he was given some cash. The guy was the best player in the game that year.
And in response to WatchThemERASE... Get a life dude.. if you don't like Digg v.4 go someplace else.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
badqatSep 9, 2010
Uh, I could have sworn the runner up, Vince Young, and his team beat Bush and USC for the national title.
And indeed, that cat needs to get a life.
jnnsr2Sep 9, 2010
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grillp0c4lyp5eSep 9, 2010
yes
lordjazzSep 9, 2010
Seems to always be the players fault... What about the college? and of course the head coaches? Pete Carroll ring a bell?
stubearSep 9, 2010
USC was punished for their part in the violations. As the NCAA has no authority outside College sports, it's doubtful he'll be punished at all. He had better hope his NFL career goes well, however, or he'll be looking for a new job as a head coach at a University or College and the NCAA could cause problems for him then.
kingpSep 9, 2010
If he violated any rules when he was awarded the trophy, then yes. If not, then no.
hydroplaneSep 9, 2010
George Bush did it
thelostviking22Sep 9, 2010
Absof**kin'lutely.
pagangodSep 9, 2010
Nothing that he did affected his ability to perform-- he wasn't taking drugs, the agents weren't getting him special training or coaching or conditioning.
The trophy isn't awarded for being a good citizen,it's awarded for being the best college football player that year. They shouldn't pull it as a punishment years after the fact.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
selmerSep 9, 2010
The hypocrisy is astounding in college football. Colleges make millions off kids playing for their teams. Not to mention the NCAA, which makes untold riches off advertisers. Yeah, USC should have done more to police the agent-player relationships. But take away his Heisman? I mean, talk about stupidity. No performance enhancers, no nothing.
If you were poor and unbelievably talented at football but somewhat naive and gullible, could a fast-talking agent talk you into taking some perks if it directly benefited you and your family? The fact that the NCAA expects kids off the streets who have the weight of their family's expectations on their shoulders, often times to completely alter the trajectory of their lives, to avoid any and all temptations...especially when they are thrown into an environment like a D-I, high-profile college football program (interviews by ESPN, national TV exposure, profiles in magazines, etc etc) is just dumb.
I don't fault Reggie, even though I f@#$ing hate USC. I think the system is corrupt, hypocritical, wildly-skewed in favor of the NCAA in all aspects, and totally f@#$ed. I say keep the restrictions on USC, sanction Pete Carroll's ability to recruit college players to the Seahawks, the head of the Pac-10 office at the NCAA should step down or be fired and sue the hell out of the agent(s) that were involved.
rhoonahSep 9, 2010
I can't agree with your first 2 paragraphs more my friend. Your third, well, I'm on the fence.
In any event, you are completely right about the hypocrisy of the NCAA and the cash cows that these athletes are to the NCAA, the schools, coaches, etc. I mean, these kids are all playing football, basketball, whatever in some hope to make it to the pros and change the course of their lives. So some guy comes along and throws a few grand on the table and they are supposed to say no while mama continues to work 3 jobs to pay the bills? Right.
The NCAA is slitting its own throat because the best athletes are bailing earlier and earlier for the pros. It is more prevalent in basketball and you will see more LeBrons, Garnetts, etc. to come. There is no incentive for them to go to college when they can land in the pros. And no one please throw the "they can get an education" crap at me either. I have a bachelors in electrical engineering and that is my meal ticket so I appreciate a degree but I have that piece of paper to make myself employable so I can earn a living. If my kid had the choice between college and a multi-million dollar contract, I tell him to take the money and go to school later. Why run the risk of blowing out a knee for some college that will then cancel your scholarship while the coach and school shines the championship trophy that you won for them? Hypocrisy.
ultimatebSep 9, 2010
Reggie Bush won the trophy on the field through performance. His performance on the field and violating monetary rules are separate issues. It would be ideal for Reggie to help the school out and provide them with compensation for the scholarships loss.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
castir0nSep 9, 2010
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/127342/index.html?eref=sihp
Yahoo report = full of s**t
jasani2Sep 9, 2010
He should lose it for two reasons:
1. If word came out of this before awarding the heisman award, do you think he would still get it? No.
2. Would USC still be allowed to compete at the rosebowl? No again.
Reggie Bush should give it to Vince Young on his knees. he's a dirty SOB.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
olderbutwiser44Sep 9, 2010
No, but he should pay the money back or whatever other incentives he was illegally given. It's not like he's the first collegiate player to receive these gifts.
dsalmon9Sep 10, 2010
The Heisman is awarded for...
"The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity."
I guess it's the integrity part that they're trippin' about.
gkiltzSep 10, 2010
In football, 5 years is ancient history.
Does not matter now.
Even if you are a doctor or lawyer or engineer, a college education only really gets you through that first 5 years, after that you are running on what you've done since.
for a football player, it's more like 2 years.