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danielwfletcherJul 13, 2010
Missile on Missile violence really is getting out of hand.
pluhhmmJul 14, 2010
You know how I know you're gay? This is like saying girl on girl anything is getting out of hand.
nja89Jul 14, 2010
You know how I know you're a douchebag? That comment.
greenwaldJul 14, 2010
Dong 2 Dong the way it should be
alxnflJul 14, 2010
not in amerrrica
hardwalkerJul 13, 2010
kinda seems like a step back...
crunchydeluxeJul 14, 2010
I don't know... the ability to have effective missile defense with fewer resources is a good step forward, I think.
tsothaJul 14, 2010
Why do you say that? The alternative is to use nukes, pretty much.
txaggie08Jul 14, 2010
You forgot sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads.
crunchydeluxeJul 14, 2010
We stand corrected. This is the best option.
phaedrynJul 14, 2010
First thought through my mind when I read the title too...
Been killing stuff with kinetic energy since...oh, first club ever swung?
numbskiJul 14, 2010
I'm just wondering what they're going to do when the cajun guy in the back room runs out of his deck of cards....
goldiegillsJul 13, 2010
Kinetic energy is my favorite kind of energy!
arschgaudiJul 14, 2010
It has the potential
txaggie08Jul 14, 2010
Kinetic Fanboy!
Electromagnetic energy is surely superior! Everyone knows that Newton copied his s**t off Leibniz anyways. Maxwell rules!
/Oh come on, do I really need a tag for this?
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D16rOXiXu_w
LosAlamosLabsJul 14, 2010
Not many people know the man who discovered Kinetic energy:
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/quiz/3099_1211679759653_283_291.jpg
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
That cracked me the hell up! +1
LosAlamosLabsJul 14, 2010
What's up fellow child of the 80s!
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
No one's going to Digg us. I think this just might be a special moment between you and me.
LosAlamosLabsJul 14, 2010
Good to share it with you. I didn't think anyone would catch the reference.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
I won twice on Jeopardy over stupid crap like that.
LosAlamosLabsJul 14, 2010
I'll take 80s Movie Musicals for $1000, Alex.
LosAlamosLabsJul 14, 2010
(Was this playing at home that you won?)
dirtyfriesJul 14, 2010
Sweet, Snooki and the Situation are safe!
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
If the need ever arises, our final back-up system is an advanced fist-pumping mechanism.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
powered by spray tan
bryancampJul 14, 2010
I have never been more thankful for not understanding a reference.
Please do not explain.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
You know ... or you wouldn't have bothered.
aFixedetourJul 14, 2010
So now we get to start threatening people with nukes again?
pinchduckJul 14, 2010
When did we stop?
nepidaeJul 14, 2010
There is kinetic energy now?
deathstrykJul 14, 2010
*we kinetic energy now?
trainofthought6Jul 14, 2010
You accidentally a word there.
polarbearfireJul 14, 2010
People have been killing people with kinetic energy for thousands of years.
tokoyoshiJul 14, 2010
I feel safe now :D!
onlydlbJul 14, 2010
There never will be.
tunetrueJul 14, 2010
You're just jealous.
tokoyoshiJul 14, 2010
technically its helping the my nation in multiple magnitude.
1) It create SOME job, it is very miniature compared to WWII which got us out of the great depression, but it is something...
2) Advance research on technologies...
3) Defense
splat313Jul 14, 2010
It appears the money would have been better spent on the education system.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
It occurs to me that English may not be the poster's first language.
strfxJul 14, 2010
@Tokoyoshi: Seriously, dude... that money would have been better spent on improving people's English skills. Like yours.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
So, how's your Japanese?
think4yourselffJul 14, 2010
Stop electing democrats and republicans and we wouldn't have a global empire, hence, we wouldn't need national defense.
arschgaudiJul 14, 2010
So rogue nations like North Korea would just disappear overnight?
think4yourselffJul 14, 2010
You've found my only weakness...I fear midgets...down with North Korea!
Seriously though...Fearing NK is like fearing JAWS in a pool at a motel. They control no economic power and if they even flinch China and South Korea are going to bury them to converge their economies to continue their domination of foreign economies.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
think4yourselffJul 14, 2010
To the retards that buried me...
As long as the dollar exists, the prosperity of China, SK, Japan, and other countries depends on our ability to BUY s**t. If NK threatens that ability, they are threatening the prosperity of said countries. They do not want to see the US harmed because we buy all of their s**t.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tsothaJul 14, 2010
Yeah, you're right. If we didn't elect democrats and republicans there would be no need to defend ourselves.
Oh wait. No, actually that's retarded.
think4yourselffJul 14, 2010
So carrying out a corporatist agenda for the military industrial complex is NOT retarded but ignoring the sovereignty of citizens is.
This is why people on digg are a waste of time and space.
Go watch your f**king sports and American idol and wipe your ass with the constitution. When your family is starving because the government ran out of bread, I'll be shooting them in the head because they got too close to my supply of food, water, and sovereignty. I may hate elitism but it would take a true retard to not recognize those who don't deserve to draw breath.
All you are is a petri dish. Those that you serve view you as mold. Those that you oppose view you as even less.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
arschgaudiJul 14, 2010
Oh you're one of those types. Don't you have some pamphlets to hand out, a sandwich board to don?
The end is near !!
fdsa1342Jul 14, 2010
@ think you mean:
"Remember that the media have two basic functions. One is to indoctrinate the elites, to make sure they have the right ideas and know how to serve power. In fact, typically the elites are the most indoctrinated segment of a society, because they are the ones who are exposed to the most propaganda and actually take part in the decision-making process. For them you have the New York Times, and the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal, and so on. But there’s also a mass media, whose main function is just to get rid of the rest of the population -- to marginalize and eliminate them, so they don’t interfere with decision-making. And the press that’s designed for that purpose isn’t the New York Times and the Washington Post, it’s sitcoms on television, and the National Enquirer, and sex and violence, and babies with three heads, and football, all that kind of stuff."
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tsothaJul 14, 2010
As Bismarck remarked, you'll always have a military in your country, either yours or someone else's. This is a capability the army needs to be able to fight a modern military. I would argue the wars that ABM isn't useful for are the ones like Iraq and Afghanistan, so your opposition to this particular system doesn't make any sense.
ethanleducJul 14, 2010
Except... Jaws in a hotel swimming pool isn't within shelling distance of one of the Top 3 most densely populated cities in the world.
And *please*, the democrats may not be saints, but the republicans are far, far worse.
joejitsuJul 14, 2010
I'd be more impressed if it used potential energy.
deathstrykJul 14, 2010
drop it from the orbit?
doomesticJul 14, 2010
It would still be destruction by kinetic energy.
puterJul 14, 2010
The propellant is potential chemical energy, so regardless of whether it is dropped from orbit or launched using the missile, it is using potential energy.
kronos6948Jul 14, 2010
But once it's in motion, it becomes automatically kinetic energy.
dulcettoneJul 14, 2010
Europeans use potential energy. Just sayin'.
mortaneousJul 14, 2010
You could come close if you allowed that to include inertia. Large stationary object has lots of inertia, tends to stop/destroy smaller things that hit it. Though that's more like using the missile's own kinetic energy against it.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
Glad they included a diagram so now everyone else can figure out how to do this.
disexJul 14, 2010
rofl that shows them nothing. The amazing part is in the navigation systems, rocket propellent, kill vehicle, etc...
angerproblemsJul 14, 2010
hahahahahah, dude, that's so retarded
offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
The technology is in detection, identification, targeting, and navigation.
"Rocket science" is actually pretty low tech by comparison (that's why so many countries have rockets and few have missile defense systems).
onlydlbJul 14, 2010
Way to waste a s**tload of money defending from something with less than ~1% chance of happening...
disexJul 14, 2010
" less than ~1% chance of happening..."
Citation: Onlydlb's ass chp 23 pp: 20-25
onlydlbJul 14, 2010
Ooh in before the edit! You're a chirpy lad aint ya
offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud#Gulf_War
tsothaJul 14, 2010
If it were only the scud there wouldn't be a big deal. The scud is a V2 descendant that's barely accurate enough to hit a city - not useful as a tactical weapon. No, what the army is trying to deal with is missiles like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21
The DF-21C using GLONASS or GPS has a CEP of 30-40 meters, which means you don't need a nuclear warhead to use it as a tactical weapon. It's expensive to use as a conventional weapon, but probably worth it for high-value targets.
offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
"If it were only the scud there wouldn't be a big deal."
I'm not saying the SCUD is a big problem. I'm just saying that not only can we be targeted by the missiles this system is designed to counter, but they've already have been.
onlydlbJul 14, 2010
@offrdbandit
Er... Didn't the USA de-activate Iraq?
tsothaJul 14, 2010
This is wrong. THADD is designed to destroy medium and short range ballistic missiles. In the past you couldn't use those kinds of missiles effectively without nukes because they weren't very accurate. But now you can pretty much nail a stationary target on every shot.
Everybody and his brother has these kinds of missiles now. It's not an optional capability anymore.
tokoyoshiJul 14, 2010
Better to be safe then sorry right? Look at least we got SOMETHING if it EVER does happen.
onlydlbJul 14, 2010
Can you explain to me why America has taken it upon itself to go around de-activating the world all the while increasing its own military power?
ethanleducJul 14, 2010
It never happening is the entire point.
si vis pacem, para bellum
inglouriousterdJul 14, 2010
Take THAT South Korea! You and your crazy border robots
deathstrykJul 14, 2010
So it's like a stinger missile?
disexJul 14, 2010
Uh ....sure? I guess if a model rocket is like a saturn 5.
toxicshokJul 14, 2010
and it isn't shoulder fired.
deathstrykJul 14, 2010
I meant non-explosive rocket.
larthallorJul 14, 2010
No. The Stinger has an exploding warhead that is impact fused. It must hit the target to detonate, but its main mechanism is an onboard explosive. The THAAD (and any other KKV) destroys the target by simply running into it, just like a big, sterrable bullet. Or, perhaps more precisely, maneuvering itself to get the target to run into it.
deathstrykJul 14, 2010
oh wow! you are right.
tsk05Jul 14, 2010
The typical way of shooting down rockets is you don't. There is no system that I've ever read about that works (someone correct me if I am wrong). The best they have is against dummy rockets (and only those have worked like once or twice in a test) that are just pieces of steel with no jamming, flares or defenses that all real rockets have.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
gndoabJul 14, 2010
http://www.mda.mil/news/10news0002.html
that was has worked in tests. it's the best data there is unless some (kim jong il, I'm looking at you!) tries to fire a real one at the US.
fdsa1342Jul 14, 2010
"the patriot system worked 100% in iraq."
" On February 25, 1991, a Patriot missile battery assigned to protect a military installation at Dahrahn, Saudi Arabia, failed to intercept a Scud missile, and the malfunction was blamed on an error in computer arithmetic. The Patriot's control system kept track of time by counting tenths of a second; to convert the count into full seconds, the computer multiplied by 1/10. Mathematically, the procedure is unassailable, but computationally it was disastrous. Because the decimal fraction 1/10 has no exact finite representation in binary notation, the computer had to approximate. Apparently, the conversion constant stored in the program was the 24-bit binary fraction 0.00011001100110011001100, which is too small by a factor of about one ten-millionth. The discrepancy sounds tiny, but over four days it built up to about a third of a second. In combination with other peculiarities of the control software, the inaccuracy caused a miscalculation of almost 700 meters in the predicted position of the incoming missile. Twenty-eight soldiers died..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud#Gulf_War
babywookieJul 14, 2010
"the patriot system worked 100% in iraq."
LOL. Please, do a little research into this and find out just how wrong you are.
"I don't know about ICBM's but it works for short range ones."
That's like saying that a body armor system, works against air rifle pellets, but you don't know about actual bullets.
disexJul 14, 2010
The original patriot actually didn't work anywhere CLOSE to 100% actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC-3
"The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80% in Saudi Arabia and 50% in Israel. Those claims were eventually scaled back to 70% and 40%. However, when President George H. W. Bush traveled to Raytheon's Patriot manufacturing plant in Andover, Massachusetts during the Gulf War, he declared, the "Patriot is 41 for 42: 42 Scuds engaged, 41 intercepted!"[24] The President's claimed success rate was thus over 97% during the war.
On April 7, 1992 Theodore Postol of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Reuven Pedatzur of Tel Aviv University testified before a House Committee stating that, according to their independent analysis of video tapes, the Patriot system had a success rate of below 10%, and perhaps even a zero success rate.[25][26"
Although that is really no suprise. That Patriot version was pretty much converted over night to shoot down missiles instead of airplanes. The new PAC-3 is a completely new monster which has FAR FAR more capable targeting, tracking, identification, as well as having more missiles.
seculrprogrsiveJul 14, 2010
Congratulations, you have been a victim of US propaganda. The Patriot had a success rate somewhere between 0%-10%. Question everything you learn, citizen.
disexJul 14, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78anLlOvLlk&feature=related
That Pac-3 didn't just work in tests....it worked in real warfare.
pinkertinkleJul 14, 2010
Bu bu but you can't have proximity detonation with a kinetic kill vehicle.
jcimsJul 14, 2010
This is a video of a kill vehicle hover test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM
Pretty intense.
burrduggJul 14, 2010
The Iranian bizzaro version of Digg is making snide remarks about that new U.S. air defense. They photoshopped a ridiculous picture with 15 kinetic missiles pasted over it, to diminish it's significanse. Some Iranian bragging they can't find USA on a map, and that makes them feel poud.
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cheezinternJul 14, 2010
well they're all nutjobs. And probly smell.
socalcitizenJul 14, 2010
Got a link so we can make fun of them.
SoCalLongieJul 14, 2010
"As it flies, it does a calculated series of loops in order to burn off unneeded fuel."
WTF? Shouldn't it fly straight at the threat as fast as possible. Won't any leftover fuel just burn up in the explosion?
This unneccessary military spending needs to be cut back. I saw Ron Paul (R) and Barney Frank (D) on tv together saying we don't need three ways to launch a nuclear bomb, two ways is just fine. We don't need to subsidize other NATO countries' militaries.
We need to support politicians who have the balls to end this corporate welfare.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
"WTF? Shouldn't it fly straight at the threat as fast as possible."
No. Getting the vehicle's speed correct is very important for accurate navigation and impact (you know, that whole "kinetic energy kill" thing?).
If I had to bet money, I'd say the maneuver is also used for target acquisition and properly orienting the vehicle.
You don't know what you are talking about.
SoCalLongieJul 14, 2010
"You don't know what you are talking about."
If I'm asking a question, then no, I don't know what I'm talking about. That's the point of asking questions, to get answers to things you don't understand, you condescending f**k.
A rocket doing loops as it flies towards another rocket "to burn off fuel" seems unnecessary, which is why I asked for clarification.
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offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
"If I'm asking a question, then no, I don't know what I'm talking about."
But you're willing to assert "This unneccessary military spending needs to be cut back."???
hanniballecterJul 14, 2010
Nothing but kinetic energy? Who writes this stuff? More like nothing but kinetic energy and a VERY heavy javelin.
dulcettoneJul 14, 2010
Who wrote your post? The "weight of the javelin" is a factor fully considered in calculating kinetic energy.
ethanleducJul 14, 2010
Comment Fail.
k = mv^2 / 2
hanniballecterJul 14, 2010
Okay, DulcetTone, you appear to have missed my point. I'm not saying that "the weight of the javelin" isn't a factor fully considered in calculating kinetic energy. In fact, nothing I wrote could possibly be even construed in such a way.
My point is that sensationalistic (and not terribly well versed science writers) tend to dramatize some engineering or science story and write it in a way that is miles off. In this case, the science writer for this article stated that the THAAD system is able to kill with nothing but kinetic energy (which, is rather misleading).
You see, kinetic weaponry functions essentially like a rock that's being thrown. In fact, a rock that's thrown by a person is, probably, one of the earliest forms of kinetic weapons. Kinetic weapons, at their core, are essentially non-explosive missiles (for example, a rock, or an arrow, or a missile) that is thrown or launched with some force (thus giving them kinetic energy). They work because, despite the fact that they do not carry explosives, because they are heavy and going at high speeds, the kinetic energy imparted on the missile will tend to obliterate whatever it hits.
Hence, we see that the science writer for the article was very misleading. They're not "areas the size of New Jersey using nothing more than kinetic energy." Clearly, there has to be a missile at play here (what I referred to as a heavy javelin, although the diagrams referred to the THAAD missile as the kill vehicle, which is a fairly generic name). So it can't be "nothing more than kinetic energy."
Please, before get snarky, please make sure you understood what was written first.
killermicrobeJul 14, 2010
so it uses xbox kinect?
mrcodergaJul 14, 2010
yipee
toxicshokJul 14, 2010
I know how dare we defend our airspace.
miatafanJul 14, 2010
That is only a 10 year old program.
karciJul 14, 2010
and still not working x/
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
Wow! I wonder how they gave it all that kinetic energy!
ghostalkerJul 14, 2010
I've been cutting my meals with kinetic energy for decades now, but nobody really gives a s**t.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
The company I used to work for was working on THAAD component a LONG time ago but I thought it was "Theatre High-Altitude Area Defense"
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/thaad/
Looks like the military is running out of acronyms.
offrdbanditJul 14, 2010
They're the same project.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
Doesn't involve rail guns. Not interested.
jasoncoxJul 14, 2010
KILL IT WITH... kinetic energy? Eh, ok, I'm game.
angryfirelordJul 14, 2010
Who would want to protect New jersey? :P
clownbabbyJul 14, 2010
I was there for that test and Id like to thank all of you for paying your taxes.
rollin03Jul 14, 2010
R.I.P. Nikola Tesla
samurai77Jul 14, 2010
Tesla never gets enough credit, Dugg.
tidalJul 14, 2010
Sorry but THAAD is not new. For a while it was called THUD and has been around a long time. It's a last resort defense unlike GMD.
bobbi21Jul 14, 2010
... kinetic energy. wtf? That just means MOVING THINGS. the old system uses kinetic energy too. explosions are air molecules with a whole lot of kinetic energy moving apart from a single area. Buried for stupid title.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ethanleducJul 14, 2010
OMG, you just so totally owned this thread with your nitpicky classification of energy types!
+1 Internets for you, good sir.
dulcettoneJul 14, 2010
New Jersey doesn't need nobodies defending it.
trashyamericanJul 14, 2010
american missile shield is a joke as their own tests proved.
changedmindJul 14, 2010
Someone needs to figure out how to package that kinetic stuff into a lazer beem.
Imagine a kinetic lazer!
karciJul 14, 2010
go learn physics.
mortaneousJul 14, 2010
That'd make it a MASER or Particle beam, which do exist, but they're even less efficient in atmosphere than LASERs.
tyrghastJul 14, 2010
You know why other countries hate us?
New Jersey
ethanleducJul 14, 2010
Except... Jaws in a hotel swimming pool isn't within shelling distance of one of the Top 3 most densely populated cities in the world.
And *please*, the democrats may not be saints, but the republicans are just horrendous.
yaysterJul 14, 2010
Those Caldari weapons developers...
zizar3Jul 14, 2010
So it protects an area the size of s**t?
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
i've been using it for years to destroy china's tanks in command and conquer: generals - zero hour
danconiaJul 14, 2010
Maybe it's just me but countries *should* have to fear retaliation for nuclear attacks made by the U.S.
originallucid1Jul 14, 2010
Are these the kind of weapons that liberals said would never work? Yes they are.
dukeJul 14, 2010
"Kill with Kinetic Energy" sounds sexier than "shooting with a bullet".
karciJul 14, 2010
and even more sexier than throwing rocks at it. we're moving back to the stone age.
digghasnoethicsJul 14, 2010
Of course, if it misses, you get nothing. That's a pretty steep fall off in effectiveness. And if the target is manoeuvring (like they would be) a miss is what you are most likely to get. Tests are always as benign as possible; its PR fodder.
Throwing rocks at it isn't a smart plan.
samurai77Jul 14, 2010
I have a hammer that uses kinetic energy.
TheBottomLiNE88Jul 14, 2010
I wonder how they tested this equiptment out? I just found out Korea has century robots that can be programmed to kill intruders
fragmasterflashJul 14, 2010
THAAD to the bone.