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maxvetteAug 24, 2010
Just remember folks, Record highs are proof or global warming like winter is proof of global cooling.
Its a symptom of global warming, not evidence.
mikbunnAug 25, 2010
lolwut. Symptoms are evidence by definition.
And unless you're being sarcastic or omitted "record cold" in front of winter, you're comparing apples to oranges.
thechauvinistAug 25, 2010
Global warming is a trend towards increased mean temperatures. What we learned this last winter is that harsher winters are a SYMPTOM of global warming.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter
blapierreAug 25, 2010
The problem is that we only have a little over 100 years worth of data. The chance of any year picked at random having the "record" temperature is about 1%. SOME year has to be the "record" temperature. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
timoumdAug 25, 2010
But what are the odds of 10 in a row being above average? 1/1028? And by this much. There is no denying a warming trend. The only question is if its man made. And Ill defer to the experts there.
dustin00Aug 25, 2010
Man made or not -- if it screws up our food supply, our shores, our water supplies, our coastal cities, it's going to be a major problem for billions of people.
More locally, if you have any retired relatives in Arizona and they run out of water and are forced to move... and abandon their property without being able to resell it, get ready for Grandma to move in with ya!
kingp43Aug 25, 2010
@ dustin00 - and somehow the CHAMPION of alerting the public of the eminent doom coming our way from global warming just bought a $9 million mansion in 2007 on the coast! Oh wait, he knows the coast line will rise just enough to get to his property so he can have the beach front. HA! I'm onto you Al!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
amazingsteveAug 25, 2010
"Its a symptom of global warming, not evidence."
Did you read that before you posted it?
timoumdAug 25, 2010
I dont see why anyone would bury him, he is absolutely right. A warm streak proves GW as much as a cold streak disproves it. The mountains of evidence and global temps and ice cores and models and physics provide the evidence, not a one year trend.
crunchdiggAug 25, 2010
well, damn-near-zero == damn-near-zero. I suppose you're right at some level.
Oddly, the people ranting about global cooling last winter, who presumably are scientifically illiterate, aren't saying that they've switched their position on GW now. Why do you suppose that is?
Did they get smarter over the last 6 months, or are they just dishonest? I suppose we'll know next winter.
timoumdAug 25, 2010
No but as a person who was upset by the "its cold therefore GW is false", the "its warm therefore GW is true" is just as annoying.
dipsomaniacAug 25, 2010
Just like tumours are a symptom of cancer, not evidence.
Right? That's how it works, right?
timoumdAug 25, 2010
No, like sneezing is a symptom of a cold. But its not evidence on its own. You could have allergies.
treehugger87Aug 26, 2010
This message brought to you by the Koch brothers and the Oil industry propaganda fund.
How much are you getting paid to distribute the propaganda maxvette?
keggluneqAug 24, 2010
LOL. This is obviously a lie because it snowed a lot on the US East Coast last winter. We're lucky we have Sean Hannity to point out when global warming has been invalidated. Otherwise I might be tempted to believe the environmental fascists and their fancy "thermometers".
eifersucht12aAug 25, 2010
/s for those missing it.
keggluneqAug 25, 2010
Thanks for pointing that out. One should always assume that Poe's law applies to all posts.
mabsarkAug 28, 2010
Everyone should boycott Digg on Monday.
mistrbrownstoneAug 25, 2010
It's convenient to minimize what happened last winter down to "it snowed a lot on the east coast" isn't it?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2010-01/08/content_12774807.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6997427/Britains-cold-weather-deaths-soar-as-winter-takes-its-toll.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/weather/01/07/winter.weather/index.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0108/1224261897093.html
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=126&set_id=1&art_id=nw20100101113458666C113855
http://www.gazettebw.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4961:100-dead-as-cold-wave-grips-india-&catid=17:world-news&Itemid=2
http://www.liverpoolwired.co.uk/news.php/76784-Peru-declares-emergency-over-cold-weather
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/cold-weather-claims-lives-of-1000-homeless-people-across-south-asia-601350.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-01-19-russia_x.htmComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tsk05Aug 25, 2010
I too was hoping that the record colds in North and South America as well as Europe and Asia would offset the heat but it looks like the sparsely habitated parts of Earth (and the ocean) were hotter than usual, making the winter 5 hottest on record:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100316_globalstats.html
"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for December-February was 54.8 degrees F (12.7 degrees C), which is the fifth warmest on record "
Closed AccountAug 30, 2010
In my experience a record winter usually is a harbinger to a record summer
mistrbrownstoneAug 25, 2010
I said I made no claim about what the weather mean, only that Keggluneq's comment was hyperbole.
juliusthecatAug 25, 2010
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keggluneqAug 25, 2010
@MistrBrownstone,
Instead of scouring the interwebs for anti global warming anecdotal stories, look up the word "sarcasm".
You're welcome.
Closed AccountAug 26, 2010
And yet you are the first to use a tiny sliver of data to prove YOUR side.
godsbongAug 25, 2010
Hot as hell here in Phoenix! But its like that every year...
Closed AccountAug 30, 2010
I have been to hell, Phoenix is usually hotter but this year seems a bit cooler.
maximilenAug 25, 2010
Apparently we got the best of it here in California, as it's been cooler than usual this summer...
spazattack5000Aug 25, 2010
The weather patterns are all f**ked up. For a large part of the summer it was hotter on Canada's west coast than USA's.
ericschc1Aug 25, 2010
Until this past Saturday...since then its been like getting dick-slapped by the sun every time you walk outside...112 today.
thechauvinistAug 25, 2010
Max, I live in Hermosa Beach and I was SOOOOO frustrated that summer didn't seem to even start here until last week. We had June Gloom through the middle of August!
It seems that we were all whiny little babies: "waaaa waaaa I want a gorgeous summer but instead have a moderate 60s-70s because of this marine layer," while the rest of the world seemed to have been dying of heat stroke.
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
Weather ≠ Climate, of course.
dustin00Aug 25, 2010
Thus the more accurate term "Global Weirding".
What you are used to is no longer what you are going to get.
Personally, I rather liked our cool summer in Seattle. Very relaxing.
d3dmAug 25, 2010
Time to move underground. I wonder what's in Mom's basement?
marx2kAug 25, 2010
You.
elburro88Aug 25, 2010
Quite a few people call it 'Big momma's love shack'.
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
i grew up in texas and live there for 38 years....i saw the summers change profoundly over time...it never gets even near as hot as it used to and the summers are ridiculous and longer...
but until we get the creationists and such to accept that we are indeed altering the carbon cycle of a planet that has never experienced such meddling....(forget the "global warming" and "climate change" buzzwords - they should almost be banned)...this altering of the carbon cycle has unkown outcomes..not even the experts know what will happen...so is it folly to continue on with this "fossil fuel experiment."
gusterbearAug 26, 2010
Someone from Texas with a brain? Holy s**t!
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
Global warming can't be happening because Al Gore is fat and owns a big house. /s
crunchdiggAug 25, 2010
you forgot: he's RICH and DIVORCED and some potential litigant made some CHARGES against him that she then couldn't back up and decided not to pursue except in the tabloids.
All those trump mere science.
Closed AccountAug 26, 2010
You are right...it MUST be happening because he said so..and had some bulls**t "evidence" to back it up.
ericschc1Aug 26, 2010
At this point his "bulls**t evidence" still trumps your opinion on every level.
hawaiianruleAug 25, 2010
It is time to start building a spaceship to carry Earth's population to a new Earth.
tirauAug 25, 2010
And f**k that one up, too? No thanks.
ferretmanAug 27, 2010
You can stay here, that's fine......
buttsmudgeAug 25, 2010
I don't see a single female in that Pakistan picture
dreamspirit3Aug 25, 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto
adude09Aug 25, 2010
It's a Muslim country, so males and females can't swim together.
evisr8rAug 25, 2010
Or, they melted.
geekzAug 26, 2010
and the water they are bathing in does't seems to be fine. lucky women
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
oops...i meant: the winters are way way milder....
that is the truth...
*fixed*
wondertwinsAug 25, 2010
It's chill here in NYC and loving it.
ontainAug 25, 2010
short memory. summer temps hit us early this year in NYC. it's better now but it was pretty bad a few weeks in july and june.
joejitsuAug 25, 2010
Statistics and science are for liberal elitist.
keggluneqAug 25, 2010
Who needs science when you have Jeebus and guns?
Oh, and trucknutz.
Closed AccountAug 26, 2010
hate to tell you stupid f**k, but the VAST majority of liberals believe in God.
ericschc1Aug 26, 2010
Hate to tell you the VAST majority of adults can prove their points without name calling too.
infra172Aug 25, 2010
Global Warming is caused by the Sun.
timoumdAug 25, 2010
True, without the sun wed be an ice ball, but we are helping.
com2Aug 25, 2010
and cold winters are caused by the moon??
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
The chemicals we pour into the air that have a blanket effect probably help.
khirzaskAug 25, 2010
Buuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrn.
moganiAug 25, 2010
"Pakistan hit a scorching temperature of 128.3F" "Oceania reached their hottest temperature in history at 97F on February 1. "
awww that would be a welcome temp for most of the other places in the list...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jcimsAug 25, 2010
The interesting question is how much climate change is acceptable? Clearly we are not going to stop impacting the climate, no matter what we do, even if we all kill ourselves today, we impact the climate. So how much is 'ok'?
scabnabbitAug 25, 2010
About 250F.
At least according to Strain 121:
http://www.astrobiology.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=12337
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
QUICK !! Let's base long term predictions on 0.0000000028% of Earth's climate history!
walwynAug 25, 2010
lol, you forgot the /s silly!
archiesteelAug 25, 2010
Actually, we do have empirical evidence that anthropogenic global warming is happening:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm
ryanwbAug 25, 2010
I don't know anything about climate, just what I am fed from various sources. So if the large majority of people who spend their lives studying climate and the environment say we're in trouble, I tend to think we should listen to those people.
doctechnicalAug 25, 2010
The emperor's new clothes are just fabulous, everyone says so!
Consensus <> science.
keggluneqAug 25, 2010
The scientific method has a built-in verification process designed to achieve a consensus.
iamsreekanthAug 25, 2010
sad situation! :(
butterbeeAug 25, 2010
195 total countries: take into account.
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
There are 195 countries in the world. 9 of them had a record high.
According to the global warming alarmists:
When there is a record high, it is proof of man-made global warming.
When there is a record low, it is just normal weather.
keggluneqAug 25, 2010
I think you're onto something. Maybe the global warming alarmists and fancy-pants "scientists" should look at global temperature trends instead. You're a f**kin' genius.
archiesteelAug 25, 2010
@wr700m: "When there is a record high, it is proof of man-made global warming.
When there is a record low, it is just normal weather."
What do you say when there are much more record highs than record lows?
We know you're only here to push Big Oil's propaganda. Take your f**king pseudo-science BS and stick it up where the sun don't shine.
natorationAug 25, 2010
Pakistan is getting hit by all elements. First the FLOODS, then Taliban suicide bombings, and now RECORD heat waves!!!
ontainAug 25, 2010
well most signs point to the Pakistani government supporting the Taliban behind the scenes so that's their own fault.
liquidramAug 25, 2010
Let me know when the article is in Celsius.
anonymous1986Aug 26, 2010
Pft I refuse to look at any article that doesn't use Kelvin..........
trent1492Aug 25, 2010
Are we going to shortly see people suddenly pop up and claim how cold it is in the Southern Hemisphere? Boys and Girls it is called winter. And perhaps you should take note that the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing a pretty dam warm winter.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=globalComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 25, 2010
Argentina is having its coldest winter in 40 years.
'We keep hearing in the press that the year 2010 has been the hottest ever, or at least hottest since 1880, or at least hottest since it’s been cooler. That claim is partially the result of cherry-picking data and even manufacturing data with sophisticated computer programs that “invented” weather stations where none exist.'
'Peru declared state of emergency amid plunging temperatures. Hundreds die from extreme cold in remote mountain villages also struggling with severe poverty. Source UK.Guardian. Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay experience extreme cold. In Bolivia, tropical areas temperatures plummeted to zero causing “millions of dead fish” in rivers that normally flow in an environment of 20 Celsius.
Antarctic sea ice extent is greater than normal (Data from National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.)'
http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2010/08/05/a-matter-of-degrees-sizzle-or-freeze/
archiesteelAug 25, 2010
Others have already pointed it out, but the fact it's very cold in Peru and Argentina doesn't make it a record cold winter in the whole Southern Hemisphere. In fact, I think right now the Southern Hemisphere is having the fifth *warmest* winter on record.
This kind of misinformation might work with the drones who faithfully read WUWT, but it's not going to work on an educated audience...
trent1492Aug 25, 2010
Note to WR700 Peru and Argentina do encompass the entire Southern Hemisphere. If that was true we call it not the Southern Hemisphere but Peruhisphere. But you keep on cheery picking those figures so everyone can see you for the propagandist that you are.
forgeflowAug 25, 2010
Weather isn't climate. Summer is hot, Winter is cold. Ice is not melting, nothing to see here, move along. Is this nonsense ever going to stop in my lifetime? I sure hope so. This hoax ran it's course about 3 years ago, but yet it still keeps going on. Every warm day validates it, every cold day is ignored. People seem to have lost all of their critical thinking skills.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
trent1492Aug 25, 2010
"Ice is not melting,.."
False. The Arctic Sea Ice has been on a thirty year decline:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html
"As of August 16, 2010, Arctic ice extent was 5.95 million square kilometers (2.30 million square miles),1.68 million square kilometers (649,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average."
And 93% of mountain glacier report a loss of mass balance.:
http://www.geo.uzh.ch/wgms/mbb/mbb9/sum06.html
Why do you lie when such lie are easily exposed?
forgeflowAug 26, 2010
The ice melts every year, and then refreezes. Some years it starts melting early. Some years it starts refreezing late. If there were a general downward trend, then why is this year's ice pretty much right in the middle of the average? Why did the melt start late? Why has it started to re-freeze early? It certainly has no trend. You are chasing ghosts in the data.
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent_L.png
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.phpComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
riolio11Aug 25, 2010
Out here in Northern California it's jsut been boiling. And it came out of nowhere - we'd been enjoying low 70's all summer long, and BAM, we got hit with 90s and 100s. It's supposed to suddenly vanish again by tomorrow. Certainly strange weather...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lekaheAug 26, 2010
Boy, did I suffer from the hot summer in Finland. Generally we don't have air conditioning.
But then again our winter was the coldest in ages. the average is almost normal :)
joinedjustnowAug 26, 2010
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jetfirehackAug 26, 2010
Global warming/climate change I tell ya.
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Closed AccountAug 26, 2010
It was definitely much hotter than usual in upstate NY...and it...was....AWESOME! More global warming!
mjb512Aug 26, 2010
Celsius please
megadan76Aug 26, 2010
Interesting, but I have no idea how hot those places actually were, since they used some archaic temperature scale. 128.5*F? What does that even mean??
entangledphysxAug 27, 2010
Oh, you mean the temperature scale based off human perception of temperature?
Closed AccountAug 27, 2010
So what you are saying is the foreigners are too stupid to make a simple two step math conversion?
diggydougieAug 29, 2010
Nearly every hot/cold spell will generate a new record on at least one day. But you really need to look at the record. A new record on the 14th will not necessarily beat the record of the 15th. And is this record the hottest in 10 years or ever? Even if it beats a record from (say) 1927 that only means that way back in 1927 it was just as hot as today (by one degree).
danaegrandison11Nov 24, 2011
Myanmar and Pakistan are the very hot countries.