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mrsolodoloJul 8, 2010
I just wish this would end already
seanymacJul 9, 2010
I don't. The sooner this ends, the sooner people forget and the sooner nothing changes. The more this prolongs, and the more this starts to affect everything about our way of life, the quicker comprehensive energy reform becomes a reality. Unfortunately for the way we operate, images of pelicans and dolphins do nothing to bring about change, but once this starts hurting human beings, people start to take notice.
It's been 80 days and Lindsay f**king Lohan is on the cover of the NY Daily News, the oil spill relegated to a few lines on page 13. We have a threat of lifting the offshore drilling moratorium and we continue, as people, to be owned and operated exclusively by big corporations. This whole situation has left me flabbergasted, confounded, and downright sad. I don't know what it's going to take before people start caring about the world the way every other animal in the animal kingdom does. :(
simgJul 9, 2010
i agree with some of your sentiments, but **no other animal has any awareness whatsoever** about the environment or caring for the world. other animals live in balance with a nature by dying more frequently in less favourable conditions.
*all* living things rapaciously consume and reproduce as much as they possibly can until their numbers are balanced (and then usually reduced) by predators, disease or lack of food - just like us !
dillonhinsonJul 10, 2010
People tend to forget about these kinds of things. Not to sound sadistic or anything, but hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, drought, etc. keep our population down. It's said to lose a life, but our planet has to be balanced.
I know thats not really related to the oil spill, but I thought I'd remind people of that.
barkingshinsJul 9, 2010
"I don't know what it's going to take before people start caring about the world the way every other animal in the animal kingdom does."
lol
Basically what you are saying is that you want humanity to:
* Stop all efforts to prolong life through medicine and related technologies, significantly shorting our lives, lowering our population and drastically reducing our burden on the "environment".
* Stop all agricultural endeavors and seek to live off of only what the planet provides through natural processes
* Live each and every moment of our lives concerned only with self-preservation and reproduction
* Give up all semblance of technology, in particular anything that consumes resources without giving back in some way (electricity, internal combustion engine, etc.)
* Kill off, or at least allow to die, all the members of our population without the means to provide for themselves: the elderly, sick, injured, handicapped, orphaned, etc
The animal kingdom is NOT a Disney cartoon you know. It is a cruel place where only the strongest, fastest, most reproductively prolific survive. We are no more or less greedy than the rest of the animal kingdom... we simply have the tools, resources and intelligence to play out our greed on a grander scale. Give a squirrel opposable thumbs, self-awareness and a primate brain and it would do the same things that we have... albeit more... squirrel-like.
Ultimately, I believe that our greatest strength, our primate brain, will prove to be our downfall. As a species, we are simply too smart for our own good. I think the cluster-f**k going on in the gulf right now is a perfect demonstration of this.
uv0001Jul 9, 2010
"It's been 80 days and Lindsay f**king Lohan is on the cover of the NY Daily News, the oil spill relegated to a few lines on page 13."
Quite frankly, we don't need to hear about the damn oil spill every damn day of our lives every second. We know it's happened, we know it's still flowing into the gulf, we know what it's doing to the ecosystem, and the local economies. I'm tired of hearing about it. Unless the headline is, "Leak has been plugged," I don't care anymore. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
chris182Jul 9, 2010
"I don't know what it's going to take before people start caring about the world the way every other animal in the animal kingdom does."
Maybe a little action instead of posting comments to digg? Seriously, people can talk about how upset/angery/etc. they are but until real action is taken no one is going to give a s**t what you say.
I'm pretty pissed off about the whole situation, but I'm just one guy (yeah, yeah it only takes one person to change the world, give me a break) who has no idea how I can speed up the process. If I had a cool million to spare I'd be gathering the worlds best robotisists(?) and present an under water oil capping machine in 2 weeks. Obviously BP has no clue as to what they are doing. I say make them sponsor a contest on who can cap the pipe and give the winner a $1M paycheck. That would at least get my attention.
*sigh* But, I'm not rich and there is no contest so I'll just sit here in my office and complain and rant like the rest of the world :\
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montoliJul 9, 2010
So wait, you're saying you hope this terrible disaster keeps going on longer, so that people see the terrible things that can happen in terrible disasters?
Isn't that kind of like saying "I hope this war doesn't end any time soon, so people have more time to appreciate the senseless tragic brutality and loss of life that happens during wars?"
I mean I'm all for people waking up and figuring out some way to live on the planet without, say, poisoning the oceans. But wishing for the oceans to be poisoned so people realize how bad it is, seems a little... counterproductive?
cptironnutzJul 9, 2010
Lindsay f**ked Lohan?
tmooreJul 9, 2010
I would have paid to see that 5-6 years ago...but now....pass
tmooreJul 9, 2010
I would have paid to see that 5 or 6 years ago but now??? shudder...
peestandingupJul 9, 2010
@SeanyMac I agree. I hate to say it, but this s**t needs to be an epic f**king disaster that reaches everyone before people in general pull their heads from their asses & actually pay attention to what we're all doing to the planet & ourselves.
Its amazing to me that no one is really talking about this. Freakin Haiti earthquake had people coming outta the woodwork, celebrities, you name it. But you dont hear s**t about this but Conan or Jimmy Fallon making wisecracks on Twitter & Engadget Show. I guess since its in the US it's not hip to talk about.
We're socially f**ked in this country & our priorities are completely outta whack.
fluoroJul 9, 2010
This is all true.
At the same time, nobody knows what to do. You can't just donate money to it for a few different reasons:
1/ We all expect BP should pay for it.
2/ BP tries to keep everyone out of the area, so it's not like your money could be used anyway
3/ Nobody seems to have any f**king clue how to stop the leak.
It's not that nobody cares, it's just that nobody knows what to do about it. But I agree that we should be getting way more upset and way more involved, as a nation. We can't do anything about this, but we can try to push for some progress to make sure this never happens again. But any time people start talking about that kind of progress then they get slammed by the right-wing.
oxidaneJul 9, 2010
agreed with Seany.
csdcoJul 9, 2010
agree with MrSoloDolo (even though his name is wierd). Sentiments aside, I want this to stop.
A terrible thing should ever continue so that people can realize how terrible it is? You said it yourself, the newspapers have already changed headlines. More oil leaking isn't going to magically make people care that don't already care. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
solecizeJul 9, 2010
wish in one hand and shi... i mean spill oil in the other
which one fills up first?
gdj11Jul 9, 2010
You don't want the oil spill to end because it'll help with your political agenda? You're f**king disgusting.
mikemx7fJul 9, 2010
? I think he's saying he'd rather have some environmental damage now that causes us to prevent far more later.
seanymacJul 9, 2010
I think you need to stop reading between the lines of what I'm saying and instead read what I'm actually saying. Looks like MikeMX did.
gdj11Jul 9, 2010
You said you hope the oil spill is prolonged so people realize it's time for a change. Enough people have been hurt by this and they could really use some f**king help right about now, instead of s**ts like you shrugging and saying maybe it's a good thing.
cooterbrown000Jul 9, 2010
so do all the fisherman, shrimpers, and everyone else who makes a living off of the gulf. f**k anyone who says they don't want this to end soon. it'll be years, maybe decades before things get back to the way they were, and prolonging this any more just makes it worse. people are trying to figure out how to put food on the table because everything they knew and people in Washington DC and who pee standing up want it to continue?? SeanyMac, it has already hurt human beings.
gibitstylinJul 9, 2010
Hands down my favorite bp oil spill parody, courtesy of Ned off the Bubba the Love Sponge show.
http://93rock.com/Player/100626651/
Mich167Jul 12, 2010
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like there is an end in sight...one step forward...two steps back. It's really beginning to look hopeless.
bobosmitorJul 8, 2010
"the real goal--of the so-called safety zone is to make it difficult to document the impact of the spill on the land and the wildlife."
I believe this.
simgJul 9, 2010
really?
you don't think that preventing "journalists" (ie wannabe pro bloggers) and the rest of the general public from getting close to dangerous machinery ie large, heavy ships and marine equipment is a good idea.
if you wanted to try and hide what's going on, wouldn't you have to set a 20Km (at least) exclusion zone, not 20 metres.
grungemusic3001Jul 9, 2010
In fact it is extremely disingenuous to say a 20m zone is keeping people from documenting the spill. If you're that close to anything that is happening out on the water you are putting yourself at danger which in turn puts the people working on this in danger. When you're on a boat in the water 20 meters looks like nothing.
simgJul 9, 2010
yes, but the point is: is the restriction about safety or is about trying to prevent people from documenting the damage ?
you'd have to say there's a pretty good safety case for keeping people 20 metres away and there must be plenty of places you can go if you want to get video of spill without getting close to boats ?
stoanhartJul 10, 2010
20m seems pretty generous. If I was a cleanup boat, I wouldn't want other boats buzzing within 20m of me. A $200 zoom lens can handle 20m no problem. If you're a reporter, you've probably got a $2000 zoom lens anyways.
Closed AccountJul 8, 2010
So sad. :-(
vierceJul 9, 2010
No joke! Dauphin Island is where I spent my vacations as a kid...
It's a tiny island, just a couple miles long, with the most beautiful beaches and almost nobody around... sad.
mrscotchboyJul 8, 2010
these guys are a f**king mess, seriously, these execs at BP need to be forced to lay in their own oil and rot
seanymacJul 9, 2010
They seem to be vying for the title of "Most Evil Corporate Entity." There is no other explanation for such vacillations.
twelvedogsJul 9, 2010
lol, they've been doing the most vile evil s**t for years, it's just this happened in our back yard. pick an oil company. Their CEO should have their skin peeled off inch by inch, and i'm not talking about climate change.
mojomofo2Jul 9, 2010
Why don't you stop using oil? Your hands are tainted just like mines. We all support this system.
Pointing fingers just at BP is ridiculous. this could have happened to any of the oil companies.
seanymacJul 9, 2010
You're right and that's why I feel a bit hopeless. Our society is predicated upon the use of oil... until that changes, nothing will. :(
kinserJul 9, 2010
Actually this is all BP's fault. Not pointing fingers at them would be an act of stupidity.
phiri17Jul 8, 2010
BP sucks
masomlejnJul 9, 2010
Not enough, that's the problem.
oxidaneJul 9, 2010
they also blow.
dibbkdJul 9, 2010
You mean nicklebacks?
ronintetsuroJul 9, 2010
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identifiedlogoJul 9, 2010
You can hate BP all you want, but its one stupid engineer who caused all this. If you can believe it BP supports thousands of jobs and shops around the gulf. They even donate a lot of money($500,000 where I am) for research to a lot of universities in the US.
lucyimhomeJul 9, 2010
Wasn't Halliburton the culprit in the oil rig explosion?
fluoroJul 9, 2010
It wasn't just one engineer who caused all this. There have been numerous reports by this point which show that BP was aware of various problems at this site.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html?pagewanted=all
pktgumbyJul 8, 2010
Really?! Does an oil-stained American flag really get people worked up?
"It just breaks my heart to see that poor lil' flag all dirtified. His whole livelihood ripped out from underneath him."
supernova36Jul 9, 2010
It's symbolic. You know, because the well was made and operated by an American company as was the rig.
lolcoelacanthJul 9, 2010
Yeah, I thought that flag was a rather powerful picture
peestandingupJul 9, 2010
If an oily flag gets you more worked up than dead oil-covered animals, you're f**ked up.
manicleekJul 9, 2010
I don't think anyone really knows what really actually happened, each person blames the other and I doubt we will ever know the real truth.
But one thing is definitely true, and that is that MercenarySlick is a dick.
supernova36Jul 9, 2010
First of all, calm down.
Second of all, if you think calling British people 'limeys', 'diseased' and 'sheep-like is going to make people take you seriously, you are very much mistaken.
I just find it amusing how desperate US news outlets are to make sure everybody knows that BP stands for 'British Petroleum', a British company, not one of the good ol' USA companies, who are all environmentally responsible. I would also suggest that you are far more disconnected from the UK media than you think you are, plenty of people are quite rightly blaming BP, and Tony Hayward is taking as much flak here as he is in the States.
Fact of the matter is, we simply aren't as patriotic about our companies as you think we are, or as America is. As for not seeing a single Brit accept BP is at fault, take off your blinkers and get off your pedestal.
manicleekJul 9, 2010
I'm not pointing my finger at anyone until someone independent of anybody involved officially tells me where to point it.
And BP isn't a British company.
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grungemusic3001Jul 9, 2010
"It's symbolic. You know, because the well was made and operated by an American company as was the rig."
Actually it's symbolic because, like the flag in the picture, much of America is now covered in oil.
It really has nothing to do with ownership or operation of the well.
supertomJul 9, 2010
Dear MercenarySlick,
Get off your high horse, you condescending, elitist little ****.
Yours faithfully,
A "limey".
PS. My favourite part was the "despicable limeys". I enjoyed that.
skunkman62Jul 9, 2010
poor oily flag made in china
stephentszuterJul 9, 2010
Oil should be on our flag, anyway. I mean we, as a nation, depend on it so much that it only makes sense to display it proudly on our flag.
Damn, we need mass transit/high-speed rail.
killtr0cityJul 9, 2010
Blood and oil nationalism
animalmuther76Jul 9, 2010
Its an Oily Rag! which in c**kney rhyming slang means Fag; ergo all Americans are fags lol
ooxmanJul 9, 2010
"Images BP Doesn't Want You To See"
...you mean besides the news?
cusomanJul 9, 2010
What news? Compared to the oil gusher underwater, the news on this has been coming out at an incredibly slow trickle lately. All part of the plan I'm sure.
entangledphysxJul 9, 2010
I'm sure it's because people still know it's happening, and hearing about it everyday isn't going to make people do anything they haven't done already.
cusomanJul 9, 2010
@Entangled: That didn't stop them from going 24/7 for several months after Michael Jackson died.
peters1023Jul 9, 2010
cusoman,
The media is ALWAYS more concerned with hollywood than with anything that matters, that's nothing new at all, and certainly no part of "the plan". Btw, to what plan do you refer?
cusomanJul 9, 2010
@peters1023
This plan: http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/reporters-sa ...
And while I agree with your statement about Hollywood, the MSM was hot on this story for quite some time, and then all the coverage just seemed to dip considerably. Big Oil has all the right people in their pocket on this one, make no mistake.
identifiedlogoJul 9, 2010
the news aint hot anymore for those hot pants.
thoughtsonthisJul 9, 2010
How many more images can we see? We know what damage the spill is doing and it just makes me more upset, to no avail, to see more pictures of it.
hfactorJul 9, 2010
Apparently, not nearly enough people are upset. I still haven't heard about any serious consequences of this disaster.
slasherJul 9, 2010
Indicators and bad intuition tells me this will continue over the years from BP
Closed AccountJul 9, 2010
BP will be gone sone, and everybody will be crying for the jobs lost, and some other company will continue their (dirty) work to support the american way of life..Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dchapgierJul 9, 2010
dugg for that sign. that pretty much sums up everything.
sky0001000Jul 9, 2010
^
http://www.askstudent.com/general/kyoto-protocol-participation-map/
Map with legend + details.
peters1023Jul 9, 2010
lmao,
A signed document means nothing. There are points that the US does excel at, hydro and wind power are two. Also, SF has recycles more garbage than any other city in the world. Of course there are planty of area to work on, but the US has made progress and continues to do so. Don't tout ome international agreement that means nothing (eg China).
anneyoucanthideJul 9, 2010
that first one with the flag is so symbolic...
aintfraidnoghstJul 9, 2010
nothing to see here, move along
drleephdJul 9, 2010
I read that in Chief Wiggam's voice. Good job!
jpyumulJul 9, 2010
After I watched the movie "HOME - a Film by Yann Arthus-Bertrand",
Only two letters stayed in my mind...
BP.
firewall1Jul 9, 2010
What the f**k is this? The damn 8th 'image BP doesn't want you to see' article this week?
Get a new f**king title.
buried.
squall06Jul 9, 2010
calm down
entangledphysxJul 9, 2010
No, he shouldn't calm down.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
Yes. He should.
imiithJul 9, 2010
And this isn't even that bad, just shows closeups on oil in beaches and water and doesn't even show the extent of the damage.
retyu4343Jul 9, 2010
sad. very sad -(
iveplayedjesusJul 9, 2010
Worst frowny face ever.
rabidorangeJul 9, 2010
The image of the flag tarnished by oil is so full of metaphor I just don't where to start.
Seriously, the photographer deserves an award.
brownbagdogJul 9, 2010
If you mean it's a metaphor for how "dirty" American politics is and how they pretty much f**k up the rest of the world for their own financial gain... then yes.
farfle10Jul 9, 2010
deserves an award for dipping the american flag in the oily water the snapping a pic of it?
frequentflyerJul 9, 2010
exactly what I was thinking - staged.
Closed AccountJul 9, 2010
Buried for slideshow.
rterminator69Jul 9, 2010
The day /b/p went too far.... Such as sad story.
noiseacheyJul 9, 2010
I don't understand the backlash against this spill. The sheer amount of other issues surrounding the production and burning of oil make this issue almost insignificant. Are we not concerned about the radioactive uranium and thorium relseased into the atmosphere through burning fossil fuel? Why not make a noise about nitrogen oxides, sulphur dioxide, volatile organic compounds and heavy metals which are going into our breathable air wholesale every day?
20 million barrels of this stuff are burned EVERY SINGLE DAY in the US, no one is really sure of the absolute consequences of this but we continue to do it. Billions of $ are poured into oil exploration and it will continue until every single drop of economically recoverable black stuff is extracted from our sorry planet.
Let's not forget that BP and their efforts have kept the US and many other countries propped up for decades. Almost every pension plan on the planet has at least some money staked in a BP linked fund. So now they've f**ked up and spilt a bit, everyone has got out of their pram about how bad it is. It's fine when it's lubricating our consumerist monster of a society, but when it goes wrong it's like some demonic serpent that needs to be held responsible and slain in a public execution most of which is just for show and to placate the media. Why direct hate towards the BP chairman? He'd probably never even seen the site in question before it went wrong maybe he never even knew BP were drilling there. Yes they need to be held responsible but they aren't disputing that and have already pledged to do everything required to fix the damage done. They've already ringfenced more money than ExxonMobil were fined in the big Alaska oil spill.
BP don't suck, they give us the life we want, or strive to attain, most of you people don't realise how much this company underpin your everyday lives and that of your future and wellbeing. Let's hope they do clean it up, it was an accident. They didn't mean to ruin the coastline and kill untold wildlife. They were just trying to keep your 20 million barrels a day coming in and cutting down the amount you already need from middle east countries.
This is the reality of an oil based society and also the collateral damage one has to expect in the pursuit of finding more and more of it as our economies expand and grow. The Icelandic volcanoe eruption of 1793 did far more damage than this oil spill could ever do - an estimated 5 million people dead and no one even knows the toll on wildlife - and the planet and living organisms recovered within decades, as will the southern coast of the US given time as did the Prince William sound after Exxon Valdez.
Stop sounding off and let them clean up their mess and don't forget that much of your life, healthcare and toys are provided by the work of BP. Let's also get it into proportion with what else oil does to our planet aside from spills.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
twelvedogsJul 9, 2010
yeah, something worse is going on every day, committed by the entire population of the US, therefore we should ignore the most horrific thing done to the environment by one single company in HISTORY. hell i know i set fire to 1 million barrels of oil on the weekend to keep the mosquitoes down, but the entire US uses way less than that so GIVE ME A BREAK YOU DAMN GREENIES.
w1cked1Jul 9, 2010
f**k off. Your points would hold some oil if BP were out for anything other than the bottom f**king line, which is MONEY. They put their greed for MONEY ahead of basic procedure, protocols, and common f**king sense..... for MONEY. They gambled. They gambled f**king huge.... for MONEY, and they LOST. Their concern is their own greed and they don't give a f**k about bettering anyone's lives.
Your average idiot knows when you start nickel and diming opererations, especially at every available opportunity, and /or safety related matters, it's just going to cost ya. They were as myopic as your government.
"Let them clean their mess". LOL...... That's also how they've been inept, entireling failing to contain it other than for a few cheap photo ops. How in the f**k do you think a mess like that can be cleaned up? A volcano will spew a lot of s**t, and can be cataf**kingstrophic on a global scale.... it hits harder and dissipates sooner. A spill of this nature, not just kills off ocean life but makes it unlivable. The f**king root of the entire eco system.... do you get that?
Do you suppose they'll vacuume it off the seabed? That oil will be around for hundreds of years, probably more.
Were BP half as responsible as you portray, this mess would have never happened. Painting them as mr nice guy, even as a victim themselves, just make you a perfect assh**e.
monkeynewsJul 9, 2010
Why are you talking so much bulls**t?
"On May 11, Department of the Interior released a press release, announcing that the inspection of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf of Mexico found no major violations.[68] There are ongoing investigations to determine the root causes of the disaster.[69]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_explosion#Investigation_into_explosion
We don't know what the f**k the full story is regarding the disaster. Nothing to do with failed safety protocols is mentioned. Deepwater Horizon had a perfect safety record (7 years iirc)
noiseacheyJul 9, 2010
I didn't dispute that BP are in it for the money. Companies who make land mines and missiles are in it for the money too yet the only result of their enterprise is death on a grand scale and the misery is incalculable. The result of BP's work is that you get a lifestyle that allows you to do pretty much what you want. Cook your food, get the healthcare you need etc...Oh and yes of course it's about money or had you failed to grasp the underlying principles behind your capitalist nation and how it functions? If you have such a hang up about money and BP, why not hand over your next 4 pay cheques to help clean up the birds? No? Then your just as guilty as they are, only on a smaller scale but guilty of the greed you accuse of others nonetheless either that or you need the money to continue your lifestyle in said capitalist society.
They practice huge safety aspects in their operation, they have to to just conserve their workforce, it's basic stuff. Despite the drilling that has been going on for decades and the massive amount of free fossil fuel that has spewed forth from the holes they have had a brilliant safety record. You can't hang them for this one slip up which, I reiterate, was an accident. As the other guy said, you don't know the exact protocol and procedures on board the rig, so you can't comment. Don't forget too that BP only LEASE the platform, they don't own it, nor placed it there and paid for the privilege, half a million dollars A DAY in rent. How much of that huge total sum was taxed by the US government and used for welfare, education etc?
A mess like that CAN be cleaned up, in the same way other oil spills are cleaned up. The Exxon Valdez spill was a case in point, where guys were even high pressure washing miles of coastline. BP will throw the money at it that is required to fix it, or they will pay the ultimate price. Fact is they have the money and given time it will be fixed, nature will take care of the rest as I already said it would and has been shown in many a natural disaster. It may take years, decades even, but it will be done to the satisfaction of those who live and work in the affected area. Progress may be slow and not as quick as necessary but a spill on this scale is unprecedented, so there's hardly a plan in place to deal with it other than what has already been learned and massive lessons will be learned from this to be applied to the next big spill. In case you hadn't noticed, humans make it up as they go along.
Next time your grandparents need a new roof, holiday or some medical care, thank goodness they invested their pension in BP stock so they may afford it and don't knock what plays an enormous part in your life, whether you appreciate it or not.
th4k1ddJul 9, 2010
Don't forget to blame the white house, congress, and everyone else involved in this s**t
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#International_governments
They now hold the same responsibility as BP!
th4k1ddJul 9, 2010
I stand corrected...I shouldn't say BP...more like the Gulf and all of the people who rely on it.
jwmannJul 9, 2010
I hate it when Digg bury's a comment for a different point of view.
kinserJul 9, 2010
stop defending bp you moron.
noiseacheyJul 9, 2010
then stop your lifestyle that demands the burning of oil...like using the internet to post stupid comments for example.
oxidaneJul 9, 2010
first katrina, and now this? the northern gulf of mexico seems cursed nowadays.
th4k1ddJul 9, 2010
No its not cursed its just inept government and their corporate butt buddies.
entangledphysxJul 9, 2010
*I second the inept government.
fluoroJul 9, 2010
Yeah, of course you second the inept government but not their corporate butt buddies. Because the corporate butt buddies had nothing to do with the oil spill, right?
f**k off.
crackerjohnJul 9, 2010
just wait for a hurricane to come through there now......
th4k1ddJul 9, 2010
You can thank the US government for this problem too! Not just BP. I have been saying it. This is a dog and pony show period.
Wikipedia.org: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#International_governments
International governments
Three days after the oil spill began, the Netherlands offered to donate the use of ships equipped to handle very large scale spills.[284]
The Netherlands also offered to prepare a contingency plan to protect Louisiana marshlands with sand barriers and a Dutch research institute developed a strategy to begin building 60-mile-long (100 km) dikes within three weeks. According to Geert Visser, Dutch Consul-General, the U.S. government responded to the Dutch offer with "Thanks for your help, but at the moment we can manage ourselves", despite BP's desire to bring in the Dutch equipment.[284][285] US regulations require that oil-contaminated water must be stored on board in US waters. The Dutch vessels continuously extract the majority of the oil, but the water that returns to the ocean does not comply with the U.S. standard. Dutch officials have criticized the requirement, as it requires many additional trips to on-shore storage facilities. Spill Response Group head Wierd Koops said, "you have to get as much oil as possible into the storage tanks and as little water as possible. So we pump the water, which contains drops of oil, back overboard"[286] Admiral Allen explained on 11 June, "We have skimmed, to date, about 18 million gallons of oily water--the oil has to be decanted from that [and] our yield is usually somewhere around 10% or 15% on that". The US later relaxed its requirements and took the Dutch up on part of their offer, airlifting Dutch equipment to the Gulf and retrofitting it to U.S. vessels, where as of 10 June, it had not yet entered service.[284] To avoid using Dutch ships and workers, the U.S. government asked them to train American workers to build the sand berms. According to Floris Van Hovell, a Dutch spokesman, Dutch dredging ships could complete the Louisiana berms twice as fast as the U.S. companies.[287]
As of 6 May, the United Nations and fourteen countries had offered assistance. The U.S. government declined the offers, with a State Department email to reporters stating "there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet." The countries offering help were Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Iran, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.[288][289]
On 14 June Chris Huhne, the U.K. Secretary of State for the Department of Energy and Climate Change, made a formal statement to the House of Commons, expressing sympathy to those affected, that the environmental consequences must take priority and that the U.K. Government would remain focused on practical measures to achieve this, including offering dispersants.[290] On 21 June Iran's Revolutionary Guards offered assistance to contain the oil spill.[291]
That same day, U.S. spokesman P.J. Crowley said the U.S. had received 21 aid offers from 17 countries and four international groups. "We are maintaining contact with these countries, we are grateful for the offers, and we will take them up on these offers."[292] On 19 June, the Coast Guard actively requested skimming boats and equipment from the Netherlands, Norway, France, and Spain.[285] By 25 June, the U.S. State Department listed 70 assistance offers from 23 countries, and indicated that 8 had been accepted.[293] On 29 June the State Department accepted 22 offers of assistance from 12 countries and international bodies, including two high speed skimmers and fire containment boom from Japan.[294]
A month after the French foreign minister volunteered a fleet of private oil skimming boats, the owner met with BP and Coast Guard officials to present the idea. Weeks later, in late June, a private contractor in Florida purchased 9 of them.[295]
The U.S. Jones Act prohibits the use of foreign ships and foreign crews in port-to-port shipping and within the three-mile limit.[295][285] Initially, foreign-flagged boats stayed outside the limit and did not transport oil, exempting them from the Act. Allen states, "While we have not seen any need to waive the Jones Act as part of this historic response, we continue to prepare for all possible scenarios....Should any waivers be needed, we are prepared to process them as quickly as possible to allow vital spill response activities being undertaken by foreign-flagged vessels to continue without delay." According to the spill response center, six vessels have now applied for waivers. As of late June, none had been granted.[295]
th4k1ddJul 9, 2010
Don't forget btw...the past few administrations and congress...present company included have corrupted, polluted, and majorly f**ked over what the EPA should be responsible for. In an ideal setup, they would have designed the specs for this s**t and ensured it was enforced. Instead they are as incompetent as the post office...probably looking at porn.
dharmajunkieJul 9, 2010
And the thing that frustrates me the most is that people KNOW what we get when we elect corporate-owned f'tards but will vote for them anyway. Aaaaargh!!!!!!
Reminds me of George Carlin saying the problem is us.
peters1023Jul 9, 2010
hey now, the US Postal Service is the most reliable mail system in the world.
But I agree w/everything else.
jaxxbatJul 9, 2010
EPA & Gov does not work with business the way they should .. What else is new
jamponymesengerJul 9, 2010
It's kind of funny that NOW there's an outrage over this disaster that WE'VE, not just BP, created. We've all depended on this dirty source for a long time. Its just the damaging output wasn't as visible. We are a weird society.
perkoffJul 9, 2010
Quick shut off the internet, people shouldn't see this, we need someone to be able to shut off the internet so the crazy hackers in China don't get us, nothing to do with suppression of information.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
aureli101Jul 9, 2010
dugg for the first picture. oil on the us flag. so symbolic.
chiwawaJul 9, 2010
Zerggggs http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/112003_13.jpg
uncwidiotJul 9, 2010
The hive cluster is under attack.
cs188Jul 9, 2010
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS
brettersonxJul 9, 2010
FOR THE SWARM
slearwigJul 9, 2010
Images BP Doesn't Want You to See:
Kevin Costner reaching for a photo op while holding a vacuum cleaner
and all covered in oil.
Closed AccountJul 9, 2010
The flag looks like someone cleaned his hands with it.
brownbagdogJul 9, 2010
prob the photog
zippy757Jul 9, 2010
In an age that has virtually instant communications and is totally open, any 'print' magazine with a tag line of 'the photos they don't want you to see,' is simply trying to sell magazines or traffic to their site.
Sad as it is, the reason we're not seeing these images has more to do with the main stream media determine that it's old news, doesn't create viewers, and the American public is tired of it already.
That sucks, but it's true.
Lastly, seeing the images at this point is useless, we all know BP sucks and this is a cluster-f_ck of a situation for everyone
seobroJul 9, 2010
Hey bro, say it ain't so.
psunut5Jul 9, 2010
I just dont see how they can ever clean this up... Its just too much.
orbital318Jul 9, 2010
Buried. Not because I don't hate BP I do, but this article is just sensationalism, the pics aren't all that damning (or good). I think the media is really over hyping this story, I don't think there are images that BP doesn't want us to see. I think dead animals and people covered in oil up to the arm pits while cleaning up are much much worse.
dwhsJul 9, 2010
It won't end until they feel it's financially viable to spend what is needed to clean it up.
We need more publicity.
soupgfxJul 9, 2010
That first shot with the oil on our flag, says it all. :(
rabidangelJul 9, 2010
If you lived in the area, you wouldn't need photos... you could just step outside and smell the air. Or maybe hop on down to the beach. Or go to the local seafood place. Or visit the hotels that are only filled with oil cleanup crews who pay pennies on the dollar because "You're not getting anyone else in here", and who then leave a filthy mess behind. Beds, sheets, furniture, and carpet permanently ruined.
Tourism cancellations are 95-100%. Seafood sales are almost non-existant. Lifetime career fisherman and everyone that depends on the fishing industry are broke. The only flow of capital is from cleanup efforts. The Gulf region is in such an incredible world of hurt that one can scarcely imagine.
One thing is for sure: the true impact of this, both environmentally and economically, has yet to be fully realized.
Closed AccountJul 9, 2010
Do people around there think "It's up to me to get myself out of this mess"
or do they want the government to step in and help them in their time of need? (financially etc.)
serious question.. not trying to start a flame war.
rabidangelJul 9, 2010
Perfectly reasonable question. I can only speak for the people in South Louisiana but they actually feel as though they are being *held back* by the government, particularly the Feds. They want to fix things themselves, as best they are able, and are willing to do so. The problem is, BP employees keep threatening them every time they try (seriously). The EPA and Coast Guard hold them back over the most absurd reasons. And so on...
perola21Jul 9, 2010
Situations like this I've revolt, for I feel that the size of an ant.
perola21Jul 9, 2010
They don't know how to clean, but in fact it covers with oil that made a mess under water!
bonlebonJul 9, 2010
The spin doctors will claim greasy dolphins will be harder to catch like those greasy pigs at the county fairs.
frostbytJul 9, 2010
OH NOES!!! I saw some images of oil in the ocean and a few plops on the beach!
Run for da hills!
nard3456Jul 9, 2010
and a few million gallons in the ocean
phriend2spinJul 9, 2010
I predict it will take over a year for them to stop the oil from gushing.
dervish108Jul 9, 2010
That title should read: "Images BP and Our Own f**king Government Don't Want You to See"
jaxxbatJul 9, 2010
totally
tk0680Jul 9, 2010
"An American flag stained with oil" is mildly amusing for reasons that have nothing to do with BP.
jaxxbatJul 9, 2010
I can find a 101 images Obama dont want u to see..