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ascoltiJul 14, 2010
"It's not an unprecedented event in terms of the size of the calving, but the fact that it happened after an unusually mild winter when the annual sea ice didn't form in that area is worrying."
So ice falls off a glacier following an unusually warm winter... and this is a surprise how exactly?
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mtnxfreeriderJul 14, 2010
its not like it melted overnight, it just cracked off... thats what ice does at angles like that.
ascoltiJul 14, 2010
Quite. But I see 25 people without an education seem to disagree with me. How amusing.
Get a PhD!
liljimmynordinJul 14, 2010
You don't need a PhD to know that what you're saying makes sense.
solecizeJul 14, 2010
No one said they were surprised- just worried. In fact they said it is "not unprecedented" which is pretty much the opposite of surprised.
You need to take off your talk radio goggles and read through all the bulls**t that is blocking your comprehension. Just because there is an article about a glacier doesn't mean your belief system is under threat.
ascoltiJul 14, 2010
Excuse me? The point I was making relates to the headline.
"Glacier Loses Nearly 3 Miles of Ice...Overnight"
You don't consider that to be a little alarmist do you? Just a tad inaccurate to get a good headline? No?
O...k....
One thing though. I'd LOVE to know exactly how you know what my "belief system" is and how you believe it's "under threat".
You don't know me. We've never spoken. You've no idea what I believe or don't; nor my education or understanding of anything.
Yet you paint a picture that you know exactly who I am and even imply I have "talk radio goggles". I live in the UK and we don't really have "talk radio", not the kind you refer too. If we did, I wouldn't listen to them.
I'm not interested in rhetoric. Hence I hated the headline.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
magibegJul 14, 2010
Glacier loses nearly 3 miles of ice overnight is EXACTLY what happened. What do you expect them to say? Insignificant piece of ice breaks off and is unrelated to the world warming?
If anything the alarmist part of the story was when they said that this is not unprecedented. That means it's not uncommon.
Basically you're behaving irrationally and coming off as an ass.
datatribeJul 14, 2010
It was a mild winter in Greenland because all the cold air was down around 40N all winter.
hobofatsJul 14, 2010
it was probably done by a group of environmentalists who went out there overnight with hair dryers. just trying to give us more "evidence" for this "global warming"Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rizzosbackJul 14, 2010
/s? Right?
uselesstriviaJul 14, 2010
Anyone who can't read that as sarcasm without a /s tag fails at the internet.
rizzosbackJul 14, 2010
Anyone who doesn't think there's people on digg who could write that with absolute sincerity fails the internet.
hobofatsJul 15, 2010
*sigh*
yes, it was sarcasm. I guess i need to try harder in my fanatical ravings to make it more obvious.
neutron7Jul 14, 2010
as opposed to denialist nutjobs who can not see evidence of reality right in front of their nose
hoobalooJul 14, 2010
"I have to say, I'm don't feel very stoic."
artosrcJul 14, 2010
Yet another victim of climate change. But it doesn't exist, right? Right?
scwatsonJul 14, 2010
I don't think anyone is claiming climate change isn't real.
The claim is that it's a natural cycle and we have either no effect on it or a minuscule effect on it.
The Earth has gone through much hotter and much colder phases, I'm sure if we were around then we'd have been blaming ourselves for that too.
mrcacaJul 14, 2010
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alwaysturningJul 14, 2010
Mr Crack, what about the little Ice Age that caused ice to fill the harbors in Britain? That lasted for a couple hundred years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
Or what about the proof that shows global warming is more closely related to sun spot activity?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbAe_g41Zl4
There are tons of different opinions and tons of variations of climate trends throughout the history of the world. To pick a few and highlight those to prove global warming is what I'm against. I really wouldn't care who or who doesn't beleive in global warming if it wasn't trying to be used to bring in carbon taxes and 'green' laws.
alwaysturningJul 14, 2010
Pardon me. I meant Mr Caca, haha
drmangrumJul 14, 2010
If you think that much ice melted in 1 day because of "climate change" you're the King of f**king Idiots. It would take a geological event to generate the heat required to melt that much ice....and Iceland is very volcanic. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tokeliJul 14, 2010
He's going to have to duel you for that title, because the article clearly says the ice sheet broke off, in the third paragraph.
drmangrumJul 14, 2010
Dumb ass. Did I say it melted? No, I didn't. I was responding to the dip s**t that thinks global warming made a sheet of ice disappear.
twinklyjesusJul 14, 2010
The same thing happened in the 1700s when they discovered some glacier in the Pacific Northwest. the first time the glacier was almost to the sea. a few months later, the glacier had retreated several miles and a huge natural bay was there.
Global Warming? Probably. Man made? Probably not, it was 300 years ago. Sensational? Yes. Natural? Yes. s**t like this happens to our planet. The Irony is the hubris we display in thinking either we can cause such disasters, or that we can stop them. We can't cause earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes or volcanic eruptions, and we sure as hell can't stop them. See Iceland.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
Let's tax the glacier so it doesn't lose ice anymore.
scwatsonJul 14, 2010
Must be because we drive to the shops
sweetneo85Jul 14, 2010
Things are starting to look more and more apocalypsy these days.
twinklyjesusJul 14, 2010
apocalypso....everybody dance!
pyroglassJul 14, 2010
it also lost it's keys. i'm sure both will show up sooner or later if the glacier just retraces it's steps
mrgames2Jul 14, 2010
Definitely not cool.
mxm111Jul 14, 2010
Square miles != miles.
/Sorry for hijacking your thread, but I hate inaccurate titles.
rudegarJul 14, 2010
then why didn't you just comment on the top node ?
mxm111Jul 14, 2010
Too lazy to scroll down...
pw378Jul 14, 2010
I see what you did there...
neutron7Jul 14, 2010
must be a gay pinko commie socialist environmentalist plot!
/corporate astroturfing reality denying teabagger
hipmanJul 14, 2010
Which one are you?.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
I don't think you have much of a grasp on reality.
solecizeJul 14, 2010
replace corporate with media pundit and you have a deal
frexxiaJul 14, 2010
SQUARE miles
grymusJul 14, 2010
Glacier Loses Nearly 3 Miles of Ice
Really?
I see the Ice Piled up at the bottom of the 2nd photo... Guess I "Found" it.
davidnivenJul 14, 2010
OMG Global warming!!! Think of the childen. Save yourselves. Live out of caves from now on.
...or it's simply that these global warming scientists don't know what they're talking about, simply lost track on an iceberg, don't know how to use their government-subsidized (you paid for it) equipment, or are simply lying. It's all been done before.
Now, which is more likely? Yup, you guessed it.
I mean, how many e-mails, documents, and papers have to be revealed as fraudulent and lies before the global warming wackos admit that their cult is a lie?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
basalcellbosskJul 14, 2010
"..how many e-mails, documents, and papers have to be revealed as fraudulent.. "
None have.
relay2005Jul 14, 2010
Who do you beleive?
http://www.cnas.org/naturalsecurity/consequences/climate-change
http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=16257&source=ggad&gclid=CJSm1p_N66ICFdID5QodZQ7YhQ
I think I know.
mrcacaJul 14, 2010
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troyfoleyJul 14, 2010
You again?
clippclopJul 14, 2010
I hadn't seen any posts by him in a while. I though digg was finally rid of him.
twinklyjesusJul 14, 2010
I think it really happened, I just think it's normal. It may not happen every year, but, from time to time, HUGE sheets break off of Antarctica and I'm sure the same happens in the Arctic. I don't see this as a disaster unless it starts happening all everywhere at the same exact moment. even then, I don't think you have proof that man has any influence, at least any influence the tax money they environmentalists are pandering for would affect. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
seltaeb4Jul 14, 2010
You've got the world's foremost scientists with decades of science on their side;
Or, you've got a bunch of AM radio-listening Archie Bunkers who believe that it's all a plot by the damn lib'ruls.
I know which side I'm betting with.
davidnivenJul 14, 2010
See? There it is again. The logical fallacy of appeal to authority. They're experts. We're not. So , we should just blindly believe whatever they say.
Is that how you liberals really feel? Because there were a lot of experts in the last 9 years saying one thing and you liberals never trusted them at all.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ahhhclemJul 14, 2010
Niven, you are correct; one should not simply accept authority. If you disagree with published science then by all means go ahead and publish an analysis showing, using facts and logic, where they have fudged data, misrepresented results, or made errors in computation. If you are not educated or intelligent enough to do so then please STFU. The only people that claim that scientists are conspiring to promote AGW without being able to back up reported results with data and validated methods use provable distortions, misrepresentation, obscuration, and outright lies.
davidnivenJul 14, 2010
Well, I think that there are more people who think that the theory of global warming is inaccurate, so...I'm going to use my appeal to popularity (ad populum) card and throw it out.
What? All of a sudden, these logical fallacies are important?
OK. The next time there is a heated discussion about global warming, I'll throw in the facts that counter the theory...and watch the AGW believers tell me that I'm not an expert, I should just believe what the experts say, I'm an oil company's stooge, blah, blah, blah. Seriously. Watch for it because it happens all the time here.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
", lost track on an iceberg"
On land. Really, dude? How desperate could you be?
thejasonresnoJul 14, 2010
You bring stupidity to a whole new level with every post you make.
keessJul 14, 2010
Wait what? Is this guy for real?
crunchdiggJul 15, 2010
no one is really sure if he's the total loon he appears. There is a large population who suspects he has so few social skills that he finds making people mad is the only way he can get anyone to talk to him. It's clear he has some sexual orientation issues of his own. Many of his posts make absolutely no sense. You can make your own guesses.
crunchdiggJul 15, 2010
Emails? That's incredibly weak trolling, even for you.
3 separate scientific investigations have cleared the researchers over those emails. The Sunday Times of London, which broke the story, has admitted that they got it wrong and twisted the facts. They have recanted and issued an apology. It's clear even you know this.
http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/06/25/newspapers-retract-climategate-claims-but-damage-still-done.html
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2010/07/after-three-strikes-is-the-climategate-scandal-out.html
http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/07/01/climategate-continues-to-crumble/
clippclopJul 14, 2010
If these comments sucked any more, there would be no need for prostitution.
isenborgJul 14, 2010
Greenland Hype
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/12/greenland-hype-meltdown/
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
I'm don't feel very stoic.
jeffdabeatJul 14, 2010
We are so screwed...where is Captain Planet when we need him...seriously...
tokeliJul 14, 2010
He melted. :(
nakedjediJul 14, 2010
It's Bush's Fault!
branditaJul 14, 2010
The glaciers are melting so fast its barely news nowadays. This is bad because it is something we need to all be watching and paying attention too.
glitch017Jul 14, 2010
I agree http://eyeoverheard.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/procrastination1.jpg
spinningheadJul 14, 2010
But Jesus told me I needed to drive a Suburban and crank the AC or the communists would take over.
oo7evanJul 14, 2010
Don't worry, we have at least until the day after tomorrow.
Wait, wait, I just rechecked my numbers. We have until two days before the day after tomorrow.
designerutahJul 14, 2010
No way! It's time the damn glaciers melted. I've had my eye on that bit of beach front property for millenia! Soon as the rest of the snow melts, I'm building a resort there and it will be the greatest get away destination ever! Imagine the headlines,
"Stay at the new Glacier Bay Hotel. The finest 5 star accomodation on land only recently recovered from the ancient ice! Climb over rocks that have been covered in ice since before man existed!"
/s
rmkrmkrmkJul 14, 2010
In other news, Stanford researchers say we're fine....wait, what was that? ....Oh, they say we're totally screwed.
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/july/extreme-heat-study-070810.html
relay2005Jul 14, 2010
I've seen that same chart for the last 30+ years and all they do is change the year at the bottom.
theclassicJul 14, 2010
3 miles x 0 inches x 0 inches = 0 volume of ice lost.
Doesn't sound like much of a problem to me.
oxidaneJul 14, 2010
he's right, no unit of volume is mentioned (cubic miles should be used instead of square miles).
dugg up.
diggerlaterJul 15, 2010
From an engineers perspective, this is a somewhat egregious oversight. TheClassic is correct, giving only one dimension unit here is apparently a tactic to exagerate the claim...
dahooveJul 14, 2010
Yes lets all do something but yet we all sit in our ac houses in the summer when it gets to hot and turn the heat up in the winter when it gets to cold, and sit on our fat a$$ watching our huge tv's, listening to our ipod, or playing that video game which were all made in the countries like China that send a majority of the crap in the air that supposedly causes this global warming we will just call on our government to tax companies out of business, spend a crap load of money on inefficient power sources like wind and solar, and use food to fuel our cars, and batteries that just go into landfills. So all of you please change your life before you tell the government to do something.
I predict that this comment will get quickly buried but I feel better now.
Closed AccountJul 14, 2010
Yes, lets just blame ourselves....not.
Step one- Vote
Step two-call or email your representatives regularly to let them know how you feel.
Step three-go play a video game.
its that simple.
iptunnellJul 14, 2010
Well YEAH, you're going to get buried! You didn't say anything that was factual. You just regurgitated the grand liberal scare tactics for the "global warming" conspiracy.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
oxidaneJul 14, 2010
assuming it is a conspiracy, wouldn't it be better to have a clean environment anyway?
you may disagree with the methods that many environmentalists use, but that doesn't necessarily mean environmentalism == communism.
iptunnellJul 14, 2010
Nobody said "environmentalism == communism" (although, you may have a point there). I'm all for being a good steward of what we've been given. I love outdoor activities and natural beauty as much as the next guy. The problem is, they are wrapping their motive around completely made up fairytales and trying to scare people into doing what they want. It almost makes people want to do the opposite. What they should have done is drop algore into the polar ice caps and chosen a more politically neutral spokesperson. Instead, they chose THIS jackass who has a mansion the size of Mt. Fuji requiring the energy reserves of China to run, and they gave him a Nobel Popularity Prize to boot! Tell me again why I should believe his crap?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
palehorse864Jul 14, 2010
So it's turned up missing, and no sign of the perpetrators? Looks like this one is going to wind up being.
*sunglasses*
A cold case.
aFixedetourJul 14, 2010
NEXT, on Glacier Watch. The only channel dedicated to bringing you up to the minute updates on the movements of large ice cubes.
its420somewhereJul 14, 2010
The comments are teh suck
megajoe67Jul 14, 2010
Wow!! The envirotard bury brigade is in full effect here.
spinningheadJul 14, 2010
Were just helping you bury your oil-soaked head in the sand.
BertKBadrinathJul 14, 2010
You see, pretty soon Eskimos will be begging to buy ice cubes.
dhalsim007Jul 14, 2010
Ummmm .... it's the PEAK OF SUMMER!!!
It'll grow back in fall/winter when the Northern Hemisphere cools.
relay2005Jul 14, 2010
I couldn't agree more. Glaciers move and ice breaks off at the end.
tntbassJul 14, 2010
Except for the part of the article that said it's worrying because last winter it did not grow back due to the warm temperatures. The worrying part is that the trend will continue.
mtmankeithJul 14, 2010
"Ummmm .... it's the PEAK OF SUMMER!!! It'll grow back in fall/winter when the Northern Hemisphere cools."
wow dude. you got no idea about what's happening in the world do you? Yes some of it will grow back, BUT each year less and less grows back. Many glaciers have completely disappeared. Glaciers that once were measured in tens and dozens of miles are now measured in yards.
Read the article and look at ALL the pretty pictures. You'll see how over time this glacier, as with almost all, is smaller now than anytime in recorded history.
But hey, it's snowed in DC a lot this winter... so that alone, contradicts ALL the other evidence of climate change. (which by the way does predict exactly that. DC will have bigger, colder, wetter winters and blazing hot humid summers. You know, like the record warm one we're having, yet again.
inactiveuserJul 14, 2010
Hadley cells, they really do work....
Here is the purdy pictures
http://www.google.com.au/images?q=Hadley+cells&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=RPU9TMmJCMvJcbCL3aIB&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQsAQwAw
And here is a rundown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell
All you need to learn now is thermopause, phase transition, the thermal properties of water, water in air and the Coriolis effect.
iptunnellJul 14, 2010
No, mtmankeith, I think it's you that doesn't know what's going on. You're reading the LIBERAL MEDIA. There's rarely a fact or piece of data that hasn't been manipulated to support their agenda, but you're buying it carte blanche. Half the time they can't agree on whether it's "global warming" or "global cooling". That alone should send you a red flag.
Secondly, algore spends all this money and time to create an elaborate powerpoint presentation to shed light on the "global warming crisis", yet he lives in a mansion that takes the energy of a small city to run. Now, you tell me he actually believes what he's talking about.
inactiveuserJul 14, 2010
Al Gore is making money from emerging markets and you guys are so brick minded you can't see it yet praise the goof offs when they invest in coal but say nothing?
Holy s**t man, get a frikken life....
wjlaw100Jul 14, 2010
With my preference settings for screening of negatives, I almost thought it was a dig-down in progress. They must really suck, and I don't need to waste time reading them.
uselesstriviaJul 14, 2010
I can't decide if the phrase "canary in a cold mine" is a typo or a bad global warming pun.
relay2005Jul 14, 2010
The question for everyone is this? Do you totally buy into the "Inconvenient Truth" by Al Gore? If so please read and please stop with the nutjobs stuff. Take your politics some where else because if you don't understand the science behind greenhouse gases then it is very easy for you to buy into what politicians say. Yes there are scientists on both sides of the fence on this, but because of that, it is hard for an average listener to choose a side.....yet. I liked the following article from 2007 regarding greenhouse gases and the science. Yes I know it is just another debunking article but at least there was some science behind it then some person ranting about right nutjobs this and right nutjobs that.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spinningheadJul 14, 2010
Yeah, except the overwhelming majority are on one side of the fence, while the others are hanging out with the "scientists" who don't think cigarettes cause cancer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
This has nothing to do with Al Gore or politicians. To bring them into it shows your own ignorance. If you oppose cap and trade to deal with the problem, thats another debate entirely.
relay2005Jul 14, 2010
My statement has nothing to do with politics but it seems yours does because you did bring in cap and trade. To actually make a change you must have buy in from all levels not just from you but from the leaders of our countries. The problem is that WE, yes you and me, have a hard time trusting who is telling us the truth because it is very easy for someone to send your an email, or create a statement on a web somewhere but if no one is educating you on the science then how can you create a case about change. Spare me the politic rhetoric that I hear everyday. "Oh this glacier is melting or the waters are warmer here". That is not enough for me. And NO the overwhelming majority is NOT on the same side, that is what you have been reading and seeing through the media. If you read what I linked and you actually had some education in the science then maybe you would see what the science is truely saying. Prove to me that you understand the science and not just what I've heard through the media.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spinningheadJul 14, 2010
Im referring to peer-reviewed journal articles...even peer-reviewed studies looking at the proportions or articles. I don't watch TV news.
inactiveuserJul 14, 2010
The question for everyone is this? Did you totally buy into the "Holy Bible" by Rich Farmer? If so please read and please stop with the nutjobs stuff. Take your politics some where else because if you don't understand the garbage behind Mythology and stars then it is very easy for you to buy into what baby rapers say. Yes there are scarecrows on both sides of the fence on this, but because of that, it is hard for an average Joe to runaway.....yet. I liked the following psalm from the book regarding house gases and the centurion. Yes I know it is just another ....king article but at least there was some myths behind it then some person ranting about right nutjobs this and right nutjobs that.
http://www.inspiredebate.com/sellmoreadds/Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bjornskiJul 15, 2010
Can I have some pot?
angryredplanetJul 15, 2010
"Yes there are scientists on both sides of the fence on this"
You're absolutely correct, but how many are on each side?
Climatologists for ACC: ~97%
Climatologists against ACC: ~3%
Doran, P. T., and M. Kendall Zimmerman (2009), Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change, Eos Trans. AGU, 90(3), doi:10.1029/2009EO030002.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.full.pdf+html
Thanks to TheMoniker for these citations.
mtmankeithJul 14, 2010
"Ummmm .... it's the PEAK OF SUMMER!!! It'll grow back in fall/winter when the Northern Hemisphere cools."
wow dude. you got no idea about what's happening in the world do you? Yes some of it will grow back, BUT each year less and less grows back. Many glaciers have completely disappeared. Glaciers that once were measured in tens and dozens of miles are now measured in yards.
Read the article and look at ALL the pretty pictures. You'll see how over time this glacier, as with almost all, is smaller now than anytime in recorded history.
But hey, it's snowed in DC a lot this winter... so that alone, contradicts ALL the other evidence of climate change. (which by the way does predict exactly that. DC will have bigger, colder, wetter winters and blazing hot humid summers. You know, like the record warm one we're having, yet again.
Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
iptunnellJul 14, 2010
Buried for copy/paste, exact duplicate comment as above.
bosskeyJul 14, 2010
I guess this answers the question of whether I left the stove on back home
iptunnellJul 14, 2010
And I'm supposed to believe this source because...
This "global warming" conspiracy is sooo tired.
Buried.
soc7Jul 14, 2010
Dugg because the deniers crack me up.
mizuhochanJul 14, 2010
Check behind the fridge.
designerutahJul 14, 2010
About damn time! Now I can finally go looking for that watch I lost there 300,000 years ago!
tao52nycJul 14, 2010
You could have found it between 900 and 1300 AD as well.
designerutahJul 15, 2010
Missed opportunity bro!
inactiveuserJul 14, 2010
Weather is a property of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell
Effected by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopause
Its primary engine is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition
Purdy Pictures
http://www.google.com.au/images?q=Hadley+cells&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=RPU9TMmJCMvJcbCL3aIB&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQsAQwAw
Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tao52nycJul 14, 2010
OK...it's 2.7 square miles. Many will misread the "3 mile" bit in the headline, and panic, thinking it's a chunk 3 miles wide.
Not true. 2.7 SQUARE miles = 14256 square feet = a square slab about 118 feet on a side. Nothing to sneeze at, but not exactly earth shattering either. Show's over, folks...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lurchermanJul 14, 2010
Maybe I've misread your intention here but ONE square mile is 27,878,400 square feet.
One acre is 43,560 square feet, that's still three times the square feet figure that you provide.
codeblewJul 15, 2010
I hated to digg you up because I am a not a "follower" of man made global warming but your math appears correct to me.
lavarockJul 14, 2010
It's called "SUMMER", this is known as the season where ice melts. Ice forms in a season referred to as "WINTER"...
codeblewJul 15, 2010
OMG SOME ICE FALLS OFF LIKE IT HAS DONE FOR THE PAST X MILLION YEARS!!!!!!!!
lamadave222Jul 14, 2010
I'm looking forward to waterfront property here at 220 feet above sea level. What will get wiped out, let's see.....a bunch of dirty, rat infested cities. Goodbye to Chicago, Detroit, New York, Miami.....hmm could be a chance for new franchises in all the major sports. Another opportunity dragging fresh water ice cubes from the Arctic to places of scarcity like Mecca. I think we can adjust.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hawkeye663Jul 15, 2010
Um, Chicago and Detroit are on lakes. They definitely won't get wiped out at 586 ft and 581 ft above sea level respectively.
idealabnewsJul 14, 2010
Wow this is very disconcerting. It is time to stop relying on fossil fuels and to start investing in and producing clean, renewable energy. If the public becomes aware of the benefits of green energy then policies will be enacted to support this interest. Show some support to environmentally conscious businesses to help the green movement!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
whiskeyx2Jul 15, 2010
"nothing to see here, keep on movin"