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nice_doggyMar 29, 2011
"There will be those who say that everything I’m about to write is paranoid gibberish or unfounded analysis". No of course non of us would say that.....Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
letherialApr 5, 2011
until you read it
while i dont really think Facebook is all that great, i cant see them gaining power like umm, RIAA, oil company's, pharmaceuticals and other large corporation that s**t every day the kind of money facebook makes in a year
i cant really follow his logic, but if your worried about Facebook you should most certainty be concerned about the people already there and have been for many many presidents.
nice_doggyMar 29, 2011
"There will be those who say that everything I’m about to write is paranoid gibberish or unfounded analysis". No of course non of us would say that.....Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
crashdvisMar 29, 2011
Ok Digg. Help me out. I'm confused. I should be afraid of Facebook because they are big and powerful and have lots of money and we don't want them playing in politics but I should not be afraid of George Soros because he is big and powerful and has lots of money and plays in politics. Do I have that right?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bookantMar 29, 2011
I'm reserving judgement on whether or not it's just another crackpot conspiracy theory . . . . but did you even read the article? It's looking to me a whole lot you skipped that part so you could rush right in and take a pointless shot at the "other team" in a way that has *absolutely nothing to do* with the point of the article.
Let me help: The article isn't just about lobbying or using money to influence elections. It's speculation that FB wants to get their hands all over the "National Internet ID," which could potentially make them - a company with a *s**tty* privacy track record - a sort of national gatekeeper of *all* of our private data, including *all* of our e-commerce transactions, everywhere.
What the f**k does that have to do with George Soros?
vohkMar 30, 2011
Without getting into RTA, I feel obliged to point out that Mr. Soros doesn't have a database of your name, birthday, address(es), phone number(s) school(s), workplace(s), friends, significant others, politics, religious leanings, sexual orientation, web habits, life habits (with location aware enabled), personal opinions, and photos/videos of all of the above and more..
..all while demonstrating a vicious disregard for your right to privacy and an utter lack of responsibility for safeguarding said information. That right there might be something to spend a moment thinking about.
Now RTFA.
nairebisMar 30, 2011
"vicious disregard for your right to privacy"? First of all, you have no right to privacy when you voluntarily give your information in exchange for a free service...
But be that as it may, are we talking about the same Facebook that gives you full, find-grained control about what information is shown and what information isn't? And no, I don't care what's opt-in versus opt-out. If you're concerned about it, then figure it out. Most are not concerned about it.
There's nothing "vicious" about Facebook. I suspect you don't even use the service and have no idea how it works.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
letherialApr 5, 2011
"Without getting into RTA, I feel obliged to point out that Mr. Soros doesn't have a database of your name, birthday, address(es), phone number(s) school(s), workplace(s), friends, significant others, politics, religious leanings, sexual orientation, web habits, life habits (with location aware enabled), personal opinions, and photos/videos of all of the above and more"
unless you where smart enough to never sign up for facebook and give it to them.
I also want to point out that it would be impossible, and is not intended for the internet ID system to be mandatory, its just a place where you can attempt to protect yourself by putting all your finances logins in one location (the government) while the idea is just stupid, like alot of net ideas from obama, its not a leftist plot to control the world, unless your a hard right winger, then everything he does is a leftist plot to control the world so why should one more matter?
jimmoylanMar 29, 2011
New telescreen?
bersercMar 29, 2011
Facebook is definitely vying to be THE way to authenticate people online. I think they are working with the government for their own best interest, like every other business to protect their market. But I think the compromise for them, in order to get the government's help will be to work on a way to reduce the amount of anonymous surfing out there.
agmlauncherMar 30, 2011
How is that a compromise for them? That's PRECISELY what they want. In fact, what they want is no less than for the government to mandate that you must have a Facebook account, and that all websites must provide a "Facebook access gate" before the website can actually be used or anything can be purchased from it.
The question is what the government then wants out of the destruction of anonymous surfing. Facebook is merely poised to be a service provider for the government. The real question is what the government wants out of this that they can't already get through existing technology.
kuki12100Mar 29, 2011
well... worth a read
docpettyMar 29, 2011
Great insight. Yes you are paranoid. Yes, we love a great conspiracy theory!
docpettyMar 29, 2011
Great insight. Yes you are paranoid. Yes, we love a great conspiracy theory!
disappointmentMar 30, 2011
If it terrifies you, I suggest you delete your account.
I have been free over a month and a half and do not miss it. Try it sometime.
farmthisMar 30, 2011
I -deleted- my facebook profile over a year ago, I think, I there isn't a day I miss it. My social life hasn't suffered, and those creepy bastards aren't sodomizing my identity.
bhupkanna12Mar 30, 2011
Very nice interesting story
salmir2020Mar 30, 2011
"There will be those who say that everything I’m about to write is paranoid gibberish or unfounded analysis". No of course non of us would
Let me help: The article isn't just about lobbying or using money to influence elections. It's speculation that FB wants to get their hands all over the "National Internet ID," which could potentially make them - a company with a *s**tty* privacy track record - a sort of national gatekeeper of *all* of our private data, including *all* of our e-commerce transactions, everywhere.
What the f**k does that have to do with George Soros?
greatvine32Mar 30, 2011
This is very interesting and not very far off base, everyone needs to sit up and take notice at once..
letherialApr 5, 2011
its very much off base, unless you dont understand the way the web works, the way business on the web works and the way the whole world interacts with the web.
norman619Mar 30, 2011
Oh for f**k's sake. It's a social networking site. It will fall like all the others as soon as the next new cool site pops up.
wilsontristanMar 30, 2011
I'm sure that's what Color was thinking
Closed AccountMar 30, 2011
I find it kind of scary when I go to a random website and see my name show up through some kind of Facebook integration on the site. Makes me wonder how much of my information is available to external websites. I've seriously considered quitting facebook as a result.
tyrisvidarrMar 30, 2011
If you are terrified of Facebook, then you are putting stuff on there you shouldn't.
austino313Mar 30, 2011
The one thing this article does not reflect is what its users would ultimately do if any hint of this was true and to get out. I can already see the masses flocking.
mjarinMar 30, 2011
You should be scared.
Facebook is the largest database of user information on the planet. It has an enormous wealth of information on all its users. Including details of every one of their friends and associates, their likes and dislikes, interests and political affiliations, everything a government needs to build a complete Owellian profile of you.
Right now your online facebook is not linked to any governmental database. You have the ability to create new facebook accounts if you want. But what if that were to change, or even mandated? The government will have all it needs to start a proto-police state. Worst still, facebook, who has a horrible recording of selling out personal information to advertisers. Are we to trust them with our social security number? Our tax and financial information? Our addresses and phone numbers? Are we to trust them not to sell this information for financial gain?
Our only protection would be a non legally binding privacy policy and Zuckerberg's good will.
I wonder if this is the reason behind Goldman Sach's $50 billion valuation...
nairebisMar 30, 2011
What if the government MANDATES CAMERAS IN EVERY HOUSE TO WATCH YOU! OMG 1984 HERE WE COME!
Just because something can theoretically happen in bizarroworld doesn't mean it's likely to happen.
letherialApr 5, 2011
the government doesn't control the web, true, it wants to think so; but it doesn't, this is proved on the failure of the DNS take down that company's just umm registered another DNS name.
Facebook only have the information you gave it, if you thought that putting all your personal s**t on the web, to a website based on sharing your information to anyone who happen to click on your name, and you somehow will get privacy is sane, then ok....i can see how you would arrive to these conclusions.
mjarinMar 30, 2011
You should be scared.
Facebook is the largest database of user information on the planet. It has an enormous wealth of information on all its users. Including details of every one of their friends and associates, their likes and dislikes, interests and political affiliations, everything a government needs to build a complete Owellian profile of you.
Right now your online facebook is not linked to any governmental database. You have the ability to create new facebook accounts if you want. But what if that were to change, or even mandated? The government will have all it needs to start a proto-police state. Worst still, facebook, who has a horrible recording of selling out personal information to advertisers. Are we to trust them with our social security number? Our tax and financial information? Our addresses and phone numbers? Are we to trust them not to sell this information for financial gain?
Our only protection would be a non legally binding privacy policy and Zuckerberg's good will.
I wonder if this is the reason behind Goldman Sach's $50 billion valuation...
lucidhawkMar 30, 2011
This mandatory internet ID stuff is evil BS and anyone endorsing it should be condemned as only an inch above a serial killer on a moral compass.
cubineMar 30, 2011
"The only reason a company would pay the premium to get politicos on board is to have the influence and clout to make serious moves in Washington. That’s it. There’s no other valid reason."
Maybe those people proved themselves in the world of politics as worth hiring? People who are good at business tend to be good at politics, and vice versa.