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Closed AccountDec 10, 2010
Like it matters. When he starts talking, everyone just does their crossword puzzles, etc. Just like people do when ANY crazy old man starts to ramble.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hipmanDec 10, 2010
I'm sure you would know.You are so annoying.
eawgoalieDec 12, 2010
Wow, I dugg hipman.
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
So, what do you think about Wikileaks? Or are you simply going to disparage the man because you think he's crazy? (Rhetorical Question)
utscDec 16, 2010
I'd be a lot more impressed with Ron Paul if it didn't feel like this was more about appeasing his internet following than integrity.
rattelerDec 17, 2010
I don't care why he does it. His voting record is proof enough for me. He talks the talk, and Walks the walk. Even the issues I don't agree with him on, like Health Care, I still have NO DOUBT he believes he is correct on. If all republicans were like Ron Paul, we would be on the edge of Civil Class War,
kiyoruDec 17, 2010
it's storm in the spring. everyone is shocked by this bold action. how can he know these secrets? by hacking the gov's net?
pw2011Dec 11, 2010
i hope everyone in support of wikileaks sees this as a good reason to no longer support it. all im gonna say.
jm9487Dec 11, 2010
Yes I see your point, that is what ignorant people do when others try to tell them the truth.
tryanglesDec 10, 2010
The guy has always take a no nonsense approach to how US government should operate. The fact that every time this guy opens his mouth and every one just turns deaf and blind at the same time says a lot of how government really works and why most Americans really have a IQ in the mid two digit range.
Closed AccountDec 10, 2010
That's because Ron Paul's motivations have nothing to do with sustaining the income disparity here in America. Reforming our government would mean taking money away from the top 1% of earners who are currently making a killing exploiting the working middle class. Those top 1% of earners own billion dollar corporations that can afford to turn off the ears of Paul's companions.
herojonDec 11, 2010
Funny you say that since most of Dr. Paul's economic views go in sharp contrast to the wealth-redistributing leftists economically. But you are in fact very right, that doing things the Libertarian way would end exploitation of the middle class.
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
I am familiar with this particular aspect of his policies.
What I meant to convey is that the upper 1% gained their wealth in an illegitimate way, and the end of their exploitative regime would close many doors of revenue for these scam artists. So, it's not redistribution by mandate or policy, but more of a natural equilibrium that would ensue from better business practices. It would be an effect, not a cause. You get rid of the "free slop" sign, and the pigs go elsewhere.
For instance, if corporate fraud carried a penalty similar to theft or burglary, served to the fullest extent, there wouldn't be as much bread in the basket of thieves.
gordonfreeman42Dec 11, 2010
Not that I disagree completely, but your blanket statements seem a little extreme. When you say the upper 1%, you're actually talking about 3 million people, to claim that each and everyone one of them is a scammer is rather baseless. I would say most of them gained their money in a completely legitimate way, and should be called capitalists, not criminals.
Just throwing this out there, but a vast percentage of meaningful philanthropy comes from the demonized "upper 1%" Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg , Andrew Carnegie. Just saying.
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
You're right- it's a generalization. It would be impossible to name every name that needs to be named (tongue twister, anybody?). Those who have committed no fraud would have nothing to lose from reform, at least I would hope.
Thank you for pointing out the bias of my tone above. I sincerely revere those who have made an honest living and achieved such great success doing so. I certainly wouldn't mean to demonize them.
kaelyiestaDec 12, 2010
negativeinfluence, reading your comments made my day.
rattelerDec 17, 2010
This is why we need top down revue of the wealthiest 2% of this nation to determine if their wealth was earned lawfully and according to the Constitutional intent "promote the general welfare". If they are found to have violated that Constitutional intent with their business practices, their wealth should be taken just like recouping money stolen by a bank robber. They should also be financially responsible for damages caused by their misappropriation, as well as the pain and suffering it caused.
Any attempt to flee this Justice with their ill gotten gains should be treated as Treason.
Those that have been found to at least try and improve the nation, should be allowed to keep their wealth. Those who have taken a personal responsibility to rectify damages they may have done should be allowed protected from civil damages.
The rest deserve to loose everything.
kingofallpediaDec 11, 2010
Ron Paul is a obstetrician/gynecologist. When you call him "Dr. Paul" during a political discussion, it makes you sound like a cult of Paul fanboy.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jm9487Dec 11, 2010
I agree with you and it upsets me. Do these people have no souls? No conscience? Besides that do they not know the that men and women fought a seemingly unbeatable enemy and many of which died just so that they and all of us, the future generations, could be free of monarchy and pursue any good life we wish? Just because they have left this world does not make it any less real, and they throw back in their faces and in ours by accepting money for their vote. They are no better than a tyrant.
"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain."
John Adams, Co-founder of the United States of America
gigadroneDec 11, 2010
He's a Libertarian... "Doesn't give a f**k" fits right in with his political agenda. You make him sound altruistic.. much like people conflated Arlen Specter and Joe Lieberman as being 'above the fray'. Ron Paul would not embrace 'income disparity'. If anything, he'd see to it that many of the government transfer payments that keep income disparity in check (as far as can actually be measured, it's still getting worse), wind up like Ol' Yeller.. dragged out to the field and shot. You make an interesting point, but most conservatives will find his statements to be purely playing devils advocate. As such, I don't really think what he said was all that ground breaking.. just kind of.. not interesting. Personally, I love what Wikileaks does, and cheer on Julian Assange much in the way I'd cheer on Billy the Kid. Everybody loves the underdog!
bdbrDec 11, 2010
I'm not a fan of Assange; he is a pompous prick who is branded a hero for the suffering of the person who leaked the information, and he shows no remorse for that whatsoever.
However - even as a non-fan, I can't disagree with a single thing that Paul says in this speech.
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
Wow. I honestly don't see what you said that often. Someone who can have discontent and even hatred towards something and yet can separate your feeling from hearing related arguments with an open mind.
I certainly don't agree with you about Assange, but I have great respect for what you just said.
smokezzDec 11, 2010
As opposed to the pompous prick politicians...
izosityDec 11, 2010
i dont think assange is a pompous anything \, people leak the information because they think the world needs to know
assange himself credits people releasing the documents and honours there agreement of never mentioning them he describes the people that leak the infomation as bravest of all and
world needs wikileaks
and as far as ron pauls commments i agree theyre spot on
SynicusMaximusDec 10, 2010
WINNYBIBBY,
Ron Paul has more IQ in his pinky than you've had in your entire life....COMBINED.
equesardorDec 11, 2010
Speaking of quantifying intelligence: I was going to make Smart Cookies later, but I'm all out of IQ. Would you be a dear and run to the neighbors and see if they'd lend me a cup?
the4thaggieDec 11, 2010
Seems that America is full of idiots, so I'm afraid we are going to have to import from China.
carcajouDec 11, 2010
Too bad some of that IQ in his pinky didn't spread to the rest of his body, especially his mind! His big push for his "Raw Milk Bill" however, did impress some of his folks down in Cootsville.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rethreadDec 12, 2010
"The ear of the leader must ring with the voices of the people."
— Woodrow Wilson
I listen to winnybibby as I do SynicusMaximus. Please note the capitalization, it makes me curious. I unfold the trash people throw out, as it is not wise to ignore honesty. And one should always be honest with one's self. There is a place for everyone in this world, some taking longer in finding it than others... But, to be blind/deaf to the people?
Ron Paul is not the second coming.
http://tinyurl.com/2ar75k4
When many people live in the street, it is good to know the street...
SynicusMaximusDec 12, 2010
I've noted the capitalization. What part of it makes you curious?
procrastin8orDec 10, 2010
I gotta hand it to Ron Paul to have the guts to go against the 1984 mentality our government seems to propagating. You know the only way to combat this is to make the voices of the population louder than those in in power and not to let ourselves become distracted (that is the biggest way that these problems continue). You see the riots in Britain over increases in college tuition. What do we do that rivals that? I applaud Ron Paul and Anonymous for not allowing the leak to be spun into something it's not. What else can WE do, any ideas?
SynicusMaximusDec 10, 2010
I can tell you are a very smart person.....
KUDOS to you!!!
rethreadDec 12, 2010
Schools have to be certified. By the County, the State, by the Feds, etc.
Complain about the price of education. Education=Slavery. Indentured servitude, etc. Probably won't make a difference unless a school is being re-certified.
You know what you know, or you don't, or can't. The educational system should not be a predator, though. So, go forth, and speak about your concerns. Someone will be listening.
alienmushroomDec 10, 2010
Ron Paul, I bow to you.
carcajouDec 11, 2010
Careful, don't turn your backside to him or you will find out what he is trying to do to America!
schlueckerDec 10, 2010
I will be voting for Ron Paul 2012.
bdbrDec 11, 2010
Maybe the last election in Alaska could teach the nation something about write-in votes. I have no illusion that he'd win, but it would send a signal nonetheless. If you live in a district that is heavily one party (as I do), any other vote doesn't count for much anyway.
rethreadDec 12, 2010
Where I live, the primaries are the general election. Sadly, think Cynthia McKinney. Yeah. It's a done deal by the time the real general election comes around.
carcajouDec 11, 2010
By that time, he will be shouting "I am the greatest!", from a mental institution!
the4thaggieDec 11, 2010
I wrote him in 2008. He's the only honorable person in politics.
rethreadDec 12, 2010
I've met a few decent folk that got absolutely shot down in the worst of circumstances, and that's politics. While there may be good money in it, I've met few good people in it. Everything is a power play or political pawn to be pushed. It's pathetic really.
So, yeah, wouldn't trust that politician within a **** hair of my sister. Ya can ooze up, but touching is going to be a problem. You see, nobody's taken our guns away yet. And anybody grabbing on sis is going to have a bad day :)
grammerpantsDec 11, 2010
I have a love hate relationship with Mr.Paul. An interesting person that carries so much sense in one hand and bats**t insanity in the other.
cajunmetalDec 11, 2010
Any examples of his 'bats**t insanity'?
brsox2445Dec 11, 2010
Just that he is in the same party as Michelle Bachmann.
wuwei26Dec 11, 2010
So not really "bats**t" insanity, but he supports ending the estate tax (Source: House Resolution Sponsorship 01-HR8 on Mar 14, 2001) and doesn't support the theory of evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPoCsC8VT9g&feature=player_embedded#!)...
He is basically very socially conservative, voting to end the distinction between a zygote and a human being and has been anti-choice his whole career. That being said, I changed my voter registration in CA in the last presidential election cycle to vote for him in the primary. End the income tax and US out of everywhere trumps the rest of it...
firefox15Dec 11, 2010
While you can disagree with it, that definitely isn't "bats**t insanity" (as you pointed out). A large percentage of America believes in what you mentioned. When I think of "bats**t insanity," I think of something no one could get behind. Something like Westburo Baptist Church.
isuzu14bDec 11, 2010
He supports ending all taxes, if im not mistaken. So the estate tax is just thrown in the mix.
Disregard for the theory of evolution is rather troubling, although if he were to support intelligent design via evolution i would see no problem.
I definitely disagree with him on abortion.
His stance on taxes is actually pretty constitutionally justified, though im not sure how the government can run without them. How did this work prior to the 16th amendment? BTW, the 16th amendment is definitely worth reviewing... Im not saying that it should be reconsidered, I am saying that the language of it should be investigated to ensure that it is being followed properly.
And even though voting for him is a compromise for me in many ways, I would gladly vote for him any day. He is the only politician i have ever donated money to, and i am proud of it. He has INTEGRITY. He means what he says.
Go RON PAUL!
herojonDec 11, 2010
The thing you have to realize is, even if he doesn't agree with evolution, he fully supports anyone's right to believe it or teach it and thinks the government should not force that on people.
People who pick their votes based on someones beliefs rather than how they would choose to govern are an example of the problem with a majority rule vote based system. Good for you that you aren't one of those people!
isuzu14bDec 11, 2010
Agree'd.
spuy767Dec 11, 2010
He believes that the estate tax in unconstitutional on the basis that it is double taxation, which it is. At the absolute most, you can call an estate a capital gain, whereby you sould only be able to tax it based on the difference in value at purchase.
cold0008Dec 11, 2010
I wouldn't call my opinion of him a love/hate relationship. I agree with him on some issues (even though our motivations are often different) and disagree with him on others. It's best not to divide things into those we love and those we hate, but work together on those things we agree on and argue about those things that we do not.
It's that type of thinking that has made our political climate so insane. Everyone can agree that the government spends too much money on stupid s**t, but instead of finding the things that we both consider stupid s**t, but instead we just take the opposite positions of our opponents.
I would not vote for Dr Paul and I think a lot of his ideas are wrong, but I and most liberals share a lot of common ground with him and I hope my fellow liberals and Dr Paul's supporters can concentrate on those things, instead of the issues that neither of us will budge on.
subvertzDec 11, 2010
Why can't other people think like you?
rethreadDec 12, 2010
So, follow him. He's got only two followers, and it is a moral imperative that you do, having spoken up on his behalf. IT IS A MORAL IMPERATIVE!!!
Hover your mouse over his name and a "follow" balloon will come up. Click follow. I feel like an idiot, but, whatever it takes, right? You like, you follow... mouse hover over name, "follow" in balloon. Left click.
rethreadDec 12, 2010
Yeah, the natural gas scam and the windmills? He bought heavy into both of them. Decent guy, but, he's got to spread the loss, as it didn't take flight as expected. Good earthshaking ideas, like the Metric system. Just happened to be more complicated than he thought.
ronniebassDec 11, 2010
That's my Ronnie! Screw that Reagan dolt.
ncmusicDec 11, 2010
Man I wish the news would go back to treating him like he knows something and let him do interviews on this subject.
oleglyaminDec 11, 2010
One of the coolest guys on earth. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but would vote for him any day. And I don't care which party he belongs to...
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
Same here.
I disagree with him on basically every aspect of public policy, but Ron Paul is a man of uncompromising principles, which is a quality that commands respect, especially when it's found in a politician.
On a side-note, it's interesting just how far the apple can fall from the tree sometimes ie. his son Rand is a sellout establishment whore.
constitutionftwDec 11, 2010
F*ck true grit...this is a true patriot
dannyhirtlerDec 11, 2010
Wow... I have nothing but Respect for this man
shortwaveDec 11, 2010
Video has been edited. Watch the time on the upper right hand side of the video. Buried.
imurphsDec 11, 2010
You do realize the time in the upper right side is alternating between Eastern Time and Pacific Time, right? And 11:59pst is 1:59est...
imurphsDec 11, 2010
Whoops, lol. Make that 10:59pst : /
wolf_prabsyDec 11, 2010
god dammit .. homeocide .
dkepkaDec 11, 2010
I don't care what they say about him, that is awesome. True, intelligent and concise. We need more intelligent speakers like this and less idiots on Fox news!
user500Dec 11, 2010
like his son Rand?
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
But which group do you think Rand falls into?
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
i support u ron paul!!
hdrkidDec 11, 2010
Most politicians fear light and love darkness because roaches they are.
rochesterxDec 11, 2010
Only guy in washington with some cojones.
carcajouDec 11, 2010
He should try to keep them in his jock strap instead of displaying them whenever he sees a microphone or a camera.
the4thaggieDec 11, 2010
Well, we can all agree that seeing a bunch of pussies is more enjoyable, but I prefer a man to have what nature intended in a metaphorical sense.
nuxnihiliDec 11, 2010
If Wikileaks is a "foreign terrorist organization" as some of his colleagues have contended, does that make Mr Paul a 'terrorist sympathizer'?
carcajouDec 11, 2010
You got it! Ron Paul would sell his soul to get some publicity. (Remember his participation in the Gay Porno movie?)
nuxnihiliDec 11, 2010
that was actually a joke... but ok.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
Haha, true story. A die-hard libertarian who hates freedom...
TheIndieStarDec 11, 2010
Ron Paul has great ideas internationally, but he is a "crazy" when talking domestic issues, see what theindiestar thinks ab wikileaks,http://www.theindiestar.net/2010/12/devolution-of-wikileaks.html
angrycat70Dec 11, 2010
I used to think that Ron Paul was a principled libertarian. This just goes to show that he is just another populist huckster that will jump on anything that is popular.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
joe7845Dec 11, 2010
It's not inconsistent with his libertarian views to support freedom of the press. Indeed, he seems to be one of the few principled politicians around. Others have done away with principles such as due process.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
What, so politicians should never comment on current events?
I fail to see how calling out his fellow Republicans for their hypocrisy makes him a populist huckster.
kingpDec 11, 2010
I will digg this a million times.
carcajouDec 11, 2010
And as usual, Ron Paul preached to an empty gallery! Save energy - cut the lights in the empty gallery when Paul starts his rant.
n8reedDec 11, 2010
it's odd that he's the only one saying this, even among the media...
joe7845Dec 11, 2010
Self-censorship.
abstractj3Dec 11, 2010
I usually can't stand this guy, but I think he stands undoubtedly correct on this one.
retroscifigeekDec 11, 2010
Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders are my heroes.
izosityDec 11, 2010
its like almost all of US media did a hit piece on Assange even colbert and stewart had a dig
liquidramDec 11, 2010
All very excellent and true points made in that speech.
bonda5Dec 11, 2010
As a Canadian looking in, I can't believe you as individuals Americans are letting the great history of your country be s**t upon and tore to threads buy the super elite. Rise up and force a change already! Do you not see you are being drivin into an apocalypse!
thezonerDec 11, 2010
people see it, but many are too happy with fast food and big tvs. we are too comfortable in America, so the chance of any type of revolution is very slim.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
I don't think he's suggesting you take up arms, just that you stop voting Republican.
And I do realize that the Democrats aren't perfect, but they're at least trying... most of the time.
ratioexmachinaDec 11, 2010
I support freedom of speech. What's bad about it? China and Russia have no Wikileaks... :(
joe7845Dec 11, 2010
And if they had a Wikileaks, they'd probably have the site shut down, funding cut off, and would charge the guy with espionage. They are extremely authoritarian over there.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
Wikileaks is international. If they were hosted in the United States they probably would have been shut down almost as quickly as if they were in China.
Wikileaks just doesn't employ Russian or Chinese speakers, unfortunately.
I hope that changes soon, though.
mavrik8Dec 11, 2010
If RP would have been President he would have been removed as soon as possible. It would have been though because we can't stand the truth. While I believe him a bit far fetched on some things, he has an overall perspective that has credence. We have been sweeping it all under the carpet for a long time. Some will lift up the carpet and point out the mess. Some may lift it and apply a quick kick of dirt out from under it. RP would have not only swept up from under but taken the carpet out back for a beating. No one can take that much to set things right in such an invasive action. We need to take more action along his lines but it will hurt. If we don't hurt a little soon we will hurt a great deal later. We need to pull our head out of the sand and face up.
unrulyfellowsDec 11, 2010
Ron Paul!
monvalleyDec 11, 2010
Finally someone in government who agrees we should have an open government. I'll remind liberals that once upon a time, they agreed too. They seem to have transformed from 1960's liberals to 2010's marxists.
kinserDec 11, 2010
Conservatives are any better? No they're not. Throw them in you little comment too.
monvalleyDec 11, 2010
You're putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about those who profess to wanting an open government; but hark, I guess it is too much to expect from those that no longer believe in old fashioned liberal principles.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
If you want people to take you seriously, stop calling everyone who isn't a conservative a Marxist.
We don't call you guys Nazis... very often.
monvalleyDec 12, 2010
I don't think I am a conservative; I think I'm an old fashioned liberal. I don't want government interferring in my life. I don't want my money taken from me in taxes for things I don't agree should be funded and I don't want to be told what I can say, what I can or cannot do and how to think so that I can be politically correct.. Oh, and you do call conservatives Nazis and worse; almost all the time; but then i don't take you seriously. Big brother, get off my back.
kiyoruDec 17, 2010
you're right. Big brother is the worst thing in the world
user500Dec 11, 2010
So what did Rand Paul have to say?
Probably to busy still sucking Koch to reply.
grymusDec 11, 2010
Ron... You just got my vote in 2012.
ayeowchDec 11, 2010
WikiLeaks cables are now available live at http://www.dazzlepod.com/cable/
The minimal table listing allows you to easily browse through the cables or search for specific cable by keyword.
All cables posted are sync live direct from WikiLeaks primary server and are made available as soon as they are posted by WikiLeaks team.
stockjonesDec 11, 2010
Too many Lawyers in government.. Ron Paul is not a lawyer. I totally agree with him about other news agencies. Why are they not being charged for Treason? Their is so much hypocrisy in government it can drive one crazy.
ethanleducDec 12, 2010
I'll have to disagree with you on this one: aside from ethics, I can't think of a better area of expertise for a law-maker than law.
The problem with modern government is legalized corruption ie. lobbyists and corporate campaign contributions.
kiyoruDec 17, 2010
Politics is always hypocrisy, you should get it earlier
patco444Dec 11, 2010
Nice Ron :)
toefinderDec 11, 2010
Julian Assange is the man. He wouldn't be needed if the press cowards would do their job instead of going down on the powers that be.
deaconstructedDec 11, 2010
Ron Paul is such an amazingly honest man with a good head on his shoulders.
seitan007Dec 11, 2010
nice
wickedcitizenDec 11, 2010
It's a goddamn shame this man isn't our President.
Closed AccountDec 11, 2010
The man should have has picture Websters dictionary next to integrity.