huffingtonpost.com — Yesterday afternoon, the leader of a microscopic cult of idiots who announced plans to stage an "international" day of Quran burning in Gainesville, Florida held a press conference, for a rapt media which decided that his moronic plans were the single most important thing going on in America. At that press conference, in front of "9/11 Truther" signs, this cult leader lied to everyone who was watching, telling them that he was going to call off his 9/11 book burning festival because he had successfully reached a deal with the people behind the Park51 community center in Lower Manhattan, in which hey would move their facility away from the site of the World Trade Center.
Not a word of this was true, but it was amazing, all the same -- at one fell swoop, we had finally knit up the strands of a season of irrationality into one big, shiny, synergized knot. This was supposed to be the end of Recovery Summer? More like Relapse Summer.
The story of how one lone idiot, pimping an 18th-century brand of community terrorism, held the media hostage and forced some of this nation's most powerful people to their knees to fitfully beg an end to his wackdoodlery is an extraordinary one. It's a modern media retelling of Faulkner's "As I Lay Dying", in which a gang of Islamaphobes, cast in the role of Addie Bundren, bamboozle the media into carrying their coffin full of malevolence on a journey of pure debasement. Let's begin at the beginning.
Earlier this year, an organization called the Cordoba Initiative were granted permission by the appropriate authorities in New York City to turn an old Burlington Coat Factory at 51 Park Place in lower Manhattan into a community center. The organization was headed by an Imam named Feisal Abdul Rauf, who has made it his life's work to stand against radical cults like al Qaeda and teach young Muslims that America is a place where one can freely worship at the appointed times and then join other faith communities in America in the task of building a great nation. The proposed community center was to include a basketball court and space for different religious communities in New York City to have interfaith relations. It was also going to have a place for Muslims to pray, if they liked.
The news didn't sit well with many people in New York, most notably people who didn't live in Manhattan. This is because they were told by a gaggle of dumb Islamophobes that what was planned was a "Ground Zero mosque." Of course, the planned community center was not, strictly speaking, a "mosque." And it was most definitely not "at Ground Zero." "Ground Zero" is the site of an interminable municipal construction project. There are no plans to build a mosque there. "Ground Zero" is also not the name of a recognized New York City neighborhood, like DUMBO or Murray Hill. But, here's the thing: even if it was, the battle to stop the "Ground Zero mosque" was already lost, because there already is a mosque in that neighborhood.
This logic failed to sink in, because very few people outside of me and the good people over at Wonkette made any attempt to bring these facts to light. But it might not have mattered, because the fertile field of opposition to the Park51 community center was the raw wound of the September 11th attacks. Obviously, many people are still feeling the loss of that day. And that loss breeds many emotions, among them sadness and anger. And people definitely do have the right to express their sadness and their anger. But what people don't have the right to expect is that the government will intervene to remedy claims that have no basis in law.
As soon as the media saw themselves a shiny shiny shining thing shining shinily in New York City, they pounced! How perfect! Something for us to talk about during the slow-news summer! I mean, we could talk about the nation's unemployment crisis, but that would mean we'd have to talk to poor, jobless people, and there's no currency in having access to a bunch of poors. Right away, they accepted the premise that this was a "Ground Zero mosque," when it wasn't. And so, by the power vested in the media, things that weren't in fact true were accorded the privilege of being "one side of a great debate" and "an interesting point of view."
Charlie Brooker, calling out the media for this bulls**t, states what should have happened at this very moment:
New York being a densely populated city, there are lots of other buildings and businesses within two blocks of Ground Zero, including a McDonald's and a Burger King, neither of which has yet been accused of serving milkshakes and fries on hallowed ground. Regardless, for the opponents of Cordoba House, two blocks is too close, period. Frustratingly, they haven't produced a map pinpointing precisely how close is OK.
That's literally all I'd ask them in an interview. I'd stand there pointing at a map of the city. Would it be offensive here? What about here? Or how about way over there? And when they finally picked a suitable spot, I'd ask them to draw it on the map, sketching out roughly how big it should be, and how many windows it's allowed to have. Then I'd hand them a colour swatch and ask them to decide on a colour for the lobby carpet. And the conversation would continue in this vein until everyone in the room was in tears. Myself included.
That hasn't happened. Instead, 70% of Americans are opposed to the "Ground Zero mosque", doubtless in many cases because they've been led to believe it literally is a mosque at Ground Zero. And if not...well, it must be something significant. Otherwise why would all these pundits be so angry about it? And why would anyone in the media listen to them with a straight face?
And because the media couldn't do their job, a group of hack politicians, like Rick Lazio and Newt Gingrich, desperate to get a little famewhore attention for their quixotic political career goals, saw an opportunity to horn in on the "discussion." They started telling all the sad and angry people that they actually did have the right to expect someone to provide a remedy to their claims. Their case was primarily based on the idea that nobody has the rights of religious freedom, no one has property rights and that the government has the right -- nay, the duty! -- to intrude.
Right away, they should have been entirely ridiculed, because the people pimping this bilge were primarily right-wing types who would ordinarily say that church and state should not be separated, that property rights are sacrosanct, and that government should be small and unobtrusive. Someone really should have said to Newt Gingrich, "Is this seriously the stand you want to take? Because if it is, we shall never allow you to claim to be a supporter of small government or a 'Constitutional constructionist' ever again. And if you try to assert that claim, we will drop on you like a ton of bricks. We will cause you real, public pain."
But of course, that's not what happened. The media has too much invested in flattering people like Newt Gingrich, and whoever writes Sarah Palin's tweets. And so, these inherent contradictions simply became "one side of a great debate" and "an interesting point of view."
And from there, some idiot news producer said, "Hey, I bet we can shoehorn this into our election narrative somehow!" And so the Park51 community center became an election issue. Imagine that, in a world with a nine year-long, going nowhere war and a massive unemployment crisis! Imagine how many times you would have to hit yourself in the head with a ball peen hammer before you would ask a politician from California how they stood on a local zoning issue in Manhattan.
But ask they did, all the way to the White House. And that's when Democrats like Harry Reid stepped forward to publicly cover themselves in cowardice. This turned the frenzy up several notches for the media, because suddenly, they had obtained a very precious thing -- the right to say "both sides do this." The matter had become a folie a deux -- a madness made for two! -- but the media focused all their attention on the "two" and none on the "madness."
And in that climate, a pastor named Terry Jones saw an opportunity to make himself famous. Jones heads up a heretofore unknown and uncared-about gang of Florida morons known as the Dove Outreach Church -- minor bit players in the field of antagonizing American Muslims. This idiot announced that he was going to burn some Qurans on September 11th, and was anyone interested in giving this nonsense a whole lot of media attention?
And boy howdy, lots of people took him up on the offer! And you know why they did that? Because of the shame. Because deep down, your media all-stars knew that they had aided and abetted something that closely resembled an intellectual atrocity, and now it was time to atone by finding the lowest-hanging fruit available and make themselves feel better by beating on them repeatedly for being assh**es -- something they should have already been doing for months!
And this gave an opportunity for some of those who had opposed the Park51 community center -- who deserved the treatment being meted out to Terry Jones -- to do the same. They joined their friends in the media in this demonstration of game-show absolution, saying, "This level of bigotry is unacceptable! It's so declasse in comparison to our own bigotry, which is a refined, 'Sunday Afternoon On The Island Of La Grande Jatte' form of despicableness."
A few people, like John Boehner and whoever writes Sarah Palin's tweets went so far as to say, "See, this is exactly the same thing we were decrying with the Ground Zero mosque." Except it wasn't, because the Ground Zero mosque was a thing they had made up!
None of this bothered Terry Jones at all! Why should it? In the long history of fringe religious figures saying and doing stupid things, it is exceedingly rare for the media to provide much attention to them. Pat Robertson has been telling America that gay people cause hurricanes for years, and it never amounts to much in the way of coverage beyond a periodic reminder that Pat Robertson is a complete fool. Terry Jones, however, had been given something very precious: he was now "one side of a great debate" who possessed "an interesting point of view."
And the media worked very hard to push the case that Jones was part of a debate. Now, Quran burning was an election-year issue, for which every candidate had to answer. And they even went so far as to ask Jones repeatedly, "What if President Obama told you not to do this? What if former President George W. Bush told you not to do this?" They were literally brokering negotiations between an idiot cult leader and some of the most powerful and important people in the world!
By now, things were terribly out of control. President Obama had to publicly state that Quran burning is a stupid thing to do. Imagine how out of touch you have to be that you need to go all the way to the White House to find that answer! Other important people were compelled to interject at this point. General David Petraeus had to come forward and state the plainly obvious: that all the public attention being given to this Quran burning would undermine the ability of U.S. forces to conduct their counterinsurgency operations, which depend heavily on winning the "hearts of minds" of Afghans. I think a lot of people read this as Petraeus speaking out against the attention-seeker, Terry Jones. But I think he was speaking more directly to the attention-givers. And everything that Justin Elliot reports here, I believe, lends credence to my contention.
Eventually, Robert Gates -- the Secretary of Defense, who is running two wars! -- had to call Jones up and try to convince him not to do this. "Which is crazy," says Alex Pareene, accurately, because when, exactly, did the Pentagon start negotiating with two-bit terrorists?
All of this finally culminated with yesterday's press conference, where Terry Jones lied and said that the Park51 community center was going to move, thanks to him. You see where this is headed now, don't you? Now the people behind Park51 are on the hook for stopping this Quran burning, and all of the negative external impact it may have. Now, all of the refined hate-merchants from early in the story can say that if the "Ground Zero mosque" isn't moved, immediately, American troops could die!
To go back to Charlie Brooker, let's remember that after sizing up the incompetence that pervaded the Park51 coverage, he warned that the "media" should just "give up" before they "[made] things worse." Pretty prophetic, isn't it? They got played, and played badly, by a dude with 14th-century religious beliefs, 19th-century facial hair and ultra-modern media savvy. Terry Jones has essentially blackmailed some of the most important people in America, with the assistance of the media.
Let's remember that all of this paralysis was caused by 50 people who wanted to burn a book that's available for free, on the Internet!
There were many, many moments where someone could have simply said, "No, we should really not be doing this. These Islamophobes are objectively wrong, objectively stupid, objectively contradictory, objectively harmful, and by God, as someone with a functioning brain and a devotion to the pursuit of reason above all else, I am going to stand here and say no to all of this." But as it turns out, it wasn't until yesterday afternoon that someone finally had the guts to say maybe we cannot really believe a word this man is saying.
Well, they should have thought of that before they decided to point a bunch of teevee cameras at him, I guess.
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cybersaurSep 10, 2010
Once again, our idiot media has failed us. Stop giving the hate mongers attention!
kamtsaSep 11, 2010
Burning the Quran is getting old.
e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL1GuwBEOrQ
technopunditSep 11, 2010
FIRE!!!
rhmacSep 12, 2010
The article is on point, except for one thing: Terry Jones is not "media savvy". I just moved from Gainesville, and as a political campaigner, I've dealt with the man and his ilk extensively. He's a complete buffoon. He had never once evoked this "Ground Zero Mosque" nonsense as justification for his "Burn a Koran" day. He's just an evil bigot and he thought it would be fun. When the "It might cost the troops" angle became salient and his sad sack flock diminished by almost 1/2 and he needed a way out, this is what he found.
I wasn't in the room, but I'd bet you that somebody convinced his ignorant ass that they could personally get this New York Mosque moved if he agreed to cancel his 9/11 festivities. I'm sure later he found out he'd been had because he is too retarded to understand how the world works.
My favorite part, the "Crazy, medieval, bigoted, ignorant, intolerant, evil, f**kwad now has a church full of Korans.
alanocuSep 11, 2010
If the Koran burner is stupid, and he outsmarted the media into giving him publicity, that means the media is.....
baphclassSep 11, 2010
Hungry for ratings.... or fried egg sammiches. Those things are effing delicious.
oriondrSep 11, 2010
Stop burning eggs, I find them holy
itslifeasusualSep 11, 2010
This is one thing the internet could actually teach main stream media, ignore trolls and they go away. There wouldn't be global outrage if everyone ignored the dumb f**ks down in Florida.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
there shouldn't be global outrage anyway
where was the outrage when they burned the american flag?
spuy767Sep 11, 2010
My point exactly. If this were a Muslim burning bibles it would be an act protected by the first amendment. I don't agree with his plan, but I see his point.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
the pastor can burn the qurans... noone is saying he cannot
just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should
the childhood phrase "but theyre doing it" simply isnt a good enough reason in a rational society
hipmanSep 11, 2010
Yeah, hypocrisy is a-ok.
merrikSep 12, 2010
Let people do legal things if they want to. As long as it's not illegal, I don't care what he does. Let the people he's meaning to offend get offended if they want. I kind of sympathize with him at this point -- any people getting so worked up over some dude in backwater florida burning paper needs to get a life and find more important things to fight against than someone doing something that is totally legal.
I don't care what the islamic world does or what they think is okay for us to do. We have our own laws and that's about all I care about.
theseventhdawnSep 12, 2010
Actually, when they burn flags ... media runs the story in non-stop loop and brands them as terrorists. None is stopping this jackass from burning the quran but he is another terrorist just like them flag burners!
peace13Sep 12, 2010
Yes I 100 percent agree with this point as they did not start burning flags as an act of terrorism after just waking up in the morning and having a thought "ok lets burn flags it will be fruitful". It was a retaliation gesture by the peaceful community in very peaceful manner and look at the positive side, they never even warned to burn bible. So its a biased media making false heroes to spoil World peace.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
I think the guy is a supreme idiot, but he is well within his rights to burn qurans if he wants to, likewise he could burn some bibles, flags or whatever. The funny part is that by everyone getting all up in arms over this moron he got way more attention than he deserves. The media is doing nothing but helping him at this point.
The First Amendment can seem quite the bitch at times, but it protects everyone, not just the people you agree with. People seem to forget that at times.
jjjwagnerSep 11, 2010
As usual the huffing and puffing post gets it wrong. Our leader Barak attacks the nut job and his 50 followers for threatening to burn some korans based on the provocative and inappropriate nature of the act yet defends the provocative and inappropriate act of threatening to build a mosque on a nationally known sensitive site in NYC,as being based on their "right to so so". This is so clearly inconsistent that the only conclusion that can be reached is that Barak and the huffing and puffing post have shown they will only act/report in their POLITICAL best interests. This also throws great doubt on their ability to act/report in a manner consistent with truth and the best interests of the American public.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
adambomb5060Sep 11, 2010
It's not "on the site" and they're not "threatening" anything.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
Actually, the President shouldn't have had to get involved in either case. The Florida nutjob was protected by the First Amendment even if he is a stupid s**t. The Mosque isn't even a freaking issue. It's not on the sight and s**t there's even a post on the front page right now about how there was a mosque at the world trade center before it became "ground zero". Get the f**k over it.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
Even better if the same people realized they are following a stupid and sick fantasy figure and not reality.
Nobody has yet killed in the name of atheism and no, neither Hitler, Stalin or Mao were atheists.
thebigbadSep 11, 2010
If not atheist, then what religion were Hitler, Stalin and Mao?
bookantSep 12, 2010
"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation. "
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
--Adolf Hitler
darkshroudSep 11, 2010
Yes Hitler, Stalin or Mao were atheists. Glen Beck even said so.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
You two morons would actually take Glen Becks word for anything? f**k what is this world coming to...
Hitler actually spoke out against atheism as an enemy of Germany. (His personal religious views are subject to interpretation.)
Stalin was basically atheist because he used Lenin's view that religion was another obstacle to controlling the masses.
Best I can find about Mao is that his mother was Buddhist but he too used the Communist ideology of using religion as a method of control (deifying himself while outlawing other religions).
Regardless of what their beliefs were, they weren't "killing in the name of atheism. They were killing for the sake of amassing more power for themselves, not in the name of any "greater power" or lack thereof.
Find me one example of someone proclaiming "In the name of Atheism I shall smite thee!". It's simply never happened. However there are a plethora of religious wars... like the crusades as the most obvious example.
gumballerSep 11, 2010
Huffingtonpost = reported
gsydiggerSep 11, 2010
there's a reason why we don't negotiate with terrorists, because they're liars
hipmanSep 11, 2010
and this has what to do with what?.
cme884Sep 12, 2010
This man is a terrorist. His entire point is to generate hatred, fear, and yes, even terror in order to get his name out there. A terrorist doesn't have to blow up buildings or murder folks in order to get his point across.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
americans are so honest too... yup, good ol honest americans... you can trust every single one
sexyteenagerSep 11, 2010
The news media created this hoopla in an attempt to compete with the new shows, season premiers and football..... I mean come on man the news man needs to eat too.
wf80diditSep 11, 2010
More like they created this hoopla to keep up with the current group-think that all right wingers are Christian, racist and bigoted. Just like everything else they've been doing lately, it will not help the Democrats in November.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jjjwagnerSep 11, 2010
As usual the huffing and puffing post gets it wrong. Our leader Barak attacks the nut job and his 50 followers for threatening to burn some korans based on the provocative and inappropriate nature of the act yet defends the provocative and inappropriate act of threatening to build a mosque on a nationally known sensitive site in NYC,as being based on their "right to to do so". This is so clearly inconsistent that the only conclusion that can be reached is that Barak and the huffing and puffing post have shown they will only act/report in their POLITICAL best interests. This also throws great doubt on their ability to act/report in a manner consistent with truth and the best interests of the American public.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
baphclassSep 11, 2010
jjjwagner: Because putting that much effort into writing DEMANDS that you double post it.
jjjwagnerSep 11, 2010
Actually barph, I am new to this site and posted twice in error, but don't worry, there is a lot MORE to come.
tiduSep 12, 2010
The main problem with both of these events is the fundamental misunderstanding of Islam by these people. People who are against the "mosque" think that Islam attacked us on 9/11. People who are for the Koran burning think the same thing. A small sect of crazy fundamentalist Muslims attacked us on that day. Sure, there are more, and we are fighting them. But there is no reason to discriminate against thousands of Muslims who would use a mosque, or the 1.2 billion Muslims who hold sacred the Koran. There's a reason that Obama encourages the mosque and not the Koran burning. Try thinking outside the box and not just repeating what you hear on FOX.
Major news stories like these make me embarassed to be an American.
raceSep 12, 2010
"This is so clearly inconsistent that the only conclusion that can be reached is that Barak and the huffing and puffing post have shown they will only act/report in their POLITICAL best interests"
You must have heard Fox News or some Republican compare the "Burn a Koran Day" to the Ground Zero mosque. I don't know how you could have otherwise confused the two. One is a group trying to build a mosque in order to exercise their right to practice their religion freely. The other is a misguided Reverend wanting to burn the Koran in order to offend an entire religion. While they are both protected under the First Amendment, they are not comparable. The only thing that the two have in common is the hatred of Islam that has gotten out of hand lately.
vendrakeSep 11, 2010
tl;dr
Anyone got the abridged version?
nascenttSep 11, 2010
If news articles are too long for you to read, you might want to consider getting your news from a simpler source. Like AOL.
wf80diditSep 11, 2010
Where was the outrage over the kids who got sent home from school for wearing American Flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo!
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.htmlComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cme884Sep 12, 2010
Probably because the necessary officials recognized it was as stupid issue and it resolved itself.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
Actually a lot of people spoke about how stupid it was and how out of line the school officials were. There was plenty of it in the digg article about it after it happened.
chrisvazquez1Sep 12, 2010
Well there's two sides to the story. The idiot kid was obviously trying to start a controversy. (Ironically enough Cinco De Mayo is primarily an American holiday, kind of like St. Patricks) You sign a contract to go to school, in that contract it dictates that you will not wear inappropriate clothing. On that one day it was inappropriate so he was sent home. Simple as that.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
It wasn't inappropriate. The school had no standing rules that on Cinco de Mayo any and all american flag branded clothing is taboo. Your argument is moot.
Cinco de Mayo celebrates a victory of the Mexican forces over the FRENCH. The US wasn't even involved. Wearing a U.S. flag was in no way disrespectful or confrontational. And again, it's a holiday celebrated by Mexican-Americans. Almost nobody in Mexico celebrates it. Now you're willing to call yourself an American citizen, but you're offended by an American flag? How does that make sense? Now if they were waving french flags while wearing berets and wielding baguettes like swords, shouting "We'll get you next time!!", now THAT would have been disrespectful and grounds for them being sent home.
The school officials were in the wrong.
obamayouthSep 11, 2010
although he is a single extremist, he really represents the broader islamphobic right wing, progressive media is strategically smart to elevate his status to bring down the repiglicans' status. It makes the argument much easier that those who oppose ground zero masque are all racist homophobos, which they are.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
obamayouthSep 11, 2010
I like the new digg. In the old digg, idiot libertarians will swarm here with complaint of not having freedom of saying anything offensive to muslims, like they did in south park story. finally we got rid of them racist homophobos. I love Kevin.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
I was wondering when one of you dead brained lib idiots was going to play the race card.
wf80diditSep 11, 2010
Didn't take long. Played the race card and the homophobe card in one sentence. With a name like obamayouth, I'd have to go ahead and say obvious troll is obvious.
hipmanSep 11, 2010
stupid brainwashed shill.
joculatorSep 11, 2010
Once again, the Islamists get their way with threats...is it any wonder that they keep on making them.
wf80diditSep 11, 2010
Yes, they're very good at that. Won't be long before our gov't and schools have days off for Muslim holidays! So at least something good will come out of this, right?
blackoculusSep 11, 2010
This is why I love science, and hate religion.
Science calls idea's theories...openly admitting from the beginning that they could possibly be wrong.
When two people argue over a theory, they both do the math, crunch the numbers, and in the end, someone is right and someone is wrong.
It also helps that the media is too stupid to interpret anything math or science related, and it's painfully obvious to see their stupidity when they try to cover anything scientific.
hipmanSep 11, 2010
ohhhh....k.....and your point is?......
technopunditSep 11, 2010
... under his hat.
umairsandhuibaSep 11, 2010
man something must be done to control this media somehow .. they just want to pounce on everything else that comes out there and create a big ass story out of it
Closed AccountSep 11, 2010
This "pastor" is just another example in the pile of evidence supporting the claim that USA is the Land of the Fat and the Stupid.
thebigbadSep 11, 2010
It is comforting knowing the rest of the world is thin and brilliant.
darkshroudSep 11, 2010
Except they aren't, the US does not rank #1 as the fattest country in the world.
snapcaseSep 12, 2010
But we're trying! Just give us time.
frayedknotjeffSep 11, 2010
Step one: Make it seem like the media is the bad guy for telling the truth about a story.
Step two: Rip that freedom from the books.
ItsLelandCurrySep 11, 2010
I admit that I was not aware of this. Obviously I knew the difference between "ground zero" and lower Manhattan but the fact that it is in fact not a mosque is news to me. Does that mean I am an uninformed American, blindly listening to the media? No. It just means that this whole issue is not a big deal to me at all.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nascenttSep 11, 2010
Sounds like you fall into both categories to me.
ItsLelandCurrySep 11, 2010
What categories? I only really described one. I was just pointing out that from what I heard in conversation with my peers (college students), it was a Mosque. The issue did not warrant any further research on my part because I do not care what anyone builds anywhere. I would be just as okay with them building a mosque as I would be if they decided to build an IHop.
technopunditSep 11, 2010
Just shut-up and check your shoes at the door.
siratalmustaqemSep 11, 2010
He wants to sell books by burning some in the process: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nUUPs4DOLY
gomer90Sep 11, 2010
I'm pretty sure the invoked reckless hatred of over a thousand Afghanis who turn to burning buildings and protesting with chants of "Death to America" is a scarier outcome than the media coverage.
jjjwagnerSep 11, 2010
Well, obviously as a nation we should listen to those 1,000 people! We should always strive to be liked in this world, then we can start beating those Kumbaya drums!
spypiratesSep 11, 2010
Great article by the Huffington post. It's a wonder how an article so rational and obvious (and strictly conforming to the Constitution) would be deemed "left-wing" by a good 60%+ of Americans. We are so f**ked.
One thing I didn't agree with is labeling this pastor guy a terrorist. While there are some parallels, such as fear/hate mongering, and trying to negotiate small things for bigger things, I think you have to be directly putting lives at stake, or threatening to do so before you're called a terrorist.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jjjwagnerSep 11, 2010
One of the primary reasons beyond cyber competition for the massive decline of "news" papers and American journalism is the complete and utter lack of regard for that 67% who regard the huffing and puffing post as completely liberally biased. As it is obvious you share the view of the 20% liberals in this country, it is no wonder you can't see any other viewpoint as having any validity.
errorsSep 11, 2010
Talk about shortsighted? We can be sensitive to the needs of certain races, making sure to not call them certain words, referring to certain situations, etc. However, if we have a religion that's a bit on the sensitive side right now, how dare we keep our mouths shut? this is America, just because we can, we should?
I hate that kind of thinking, it's very.. redneck? I'd have an argument with white trash (plenty where I live, Terre Haute, IN) on why it's not OK to call a black man a gentlemen, many of you would not try to argue that with me, you understand why. However, if a large religion exists that finds it extremely offensive to have their religious book burned, we should do it just to prove we can? Give me a f**king break.
It's simple, if you don't understand or don't care why it's such a big deal to a certain group of people, you're acting small minded and stupid.. and your lack of tolerance and understanding makes you a closet Redne.. err, Republican.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
djskylerSep 11, 2010
Buried for Huffin .... DAMMIT!
palmyraSep 12, 2010
A brilliant summation of the latest episode of mess media idiocy.
matu666Mar 17, 2011
http://www.pickmecharliesheen.com/ did you see what this intern did? very strange