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gaia242Feb 7, 2012
When was the last time a pro-lifer was beaten to death because they were "perceived" to be pro-life?????
laborerFeb 8, 2012
Humans have suffered unthinkable violence from each other throughout our history. Many times for ugly reasons such as prejudice, but sometimes for something as simple as shoes.
Sure. Those are ugly instances.
But walking around a university campus in America, you better not be anything but a liberal or progressive. Not if you dont want to be shunned as an evil Dirty Earth'er, Gay Hater.
Either their idea of society, or the highway primitive.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
randomgorillaFeb 8, 2012
You're funny. That was funny. Excellent use of hyperbole to magnify an idiotic argument.
thechauvinistFeb 8, 2012
hahaha
laborerFeb 8, 2012
I dont see the gay community as worried about brutal murders in northern Africa.
Innocent people are robbed and attacked everyday because they have nice things on them [or the possibility of money], I dont see people up in arms worrying about protecting those with wealth. Quite the opposite.
What is the difference between a man physically beaten to death on the streets for being gay and another for refusing to hand over money? They were both brutally murdered, only one is mentioned at a parade.
These people who commit these violent actions are bullies. If they dont find an outlet in one area, its easy for them to have a different target. Bullies dont need a reason.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
Feel free to go to Northern Africa and fix their political, judicial and police system. You can start by changing their system of government, and holding a violent coup or something to get rid of the militia.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will worry about civil rights in a country we live in and can actually do something about, thanksmuch.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
What about violent crime committed against American inner city whites by minority gangs?
When there is a beating or a killing, there is rarely a peep for some kind of inner city White Pride parade to commemorate the brutalized youth[s].
It wouldnt even be allowed.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
No, but usually violent crime in gang areas happens:
a) among rival gangs, not randomly
b) in very specific areas (usually a 1 or 2 block area that if you're outside of, your fine)
c) due to turf, drug or other fights
And when it happens? We lock up the perpetrators.
If you dislike this situation, however, start a movement. That's how things happen. People get of their asses, stop moaning and do something - and like-minded people will get together with them.
You have the power to do this too, for whatever pet causes you /do/ support. And it'll get you further and be way more fulfilling than mindless, pointless bitching about the causes you don't.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
You must not live near a city.
In Tacoma, violent crime happens anywhere and everywhere.
A gang is any group of people, drugs and organized crime need not be involved.
Some are more likely to be group together and roam the streets looking for trouble. Some others are more likely to be alone and the subjects of it.
Who can we point our finger at? How can we legislate the problem away?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? WILL THERE BE A PARADE?
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"5 Arrested in Killing of Wealthy Arizona Couple" -
FTA: "Police said Tuesday that they have arrested five people in the shocking deaths of an Arizona couple found tied up and burned beyond recognition in their stylish stucco home in a posh Phoenix suburb.
..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/07/man-faces-charges-in-death-arizona-couple-four-others-arrested-police-say/?test=latestnews
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johnnyg00Feb 8, 2012
I have never felt compelled to call someone an idiot on Digg until today.
Thank you sir for accomplishing this feat, you truly are an idiot.
BluntzworthFeb 8, 2012
"What is the difference between a man physically beaten to death on the streets for being gay and another for refusing to hand over money? They were both brutally murdered, only one is mentioned at a parade."
Well for one, the victim in the second situation could have prevented his beating by handing over the money. The victim in the first situation could not have prevented his beating. If you are gay, you just can't act "non-gay".
A death is a death, you are correct. But you can't even begin to compare someone being murdered in a robbery to a person being murdered because of being gay.
BluntzworthFeb 8, 2012
@johnnyg00
"I have never felt compelled to call someone an idiot on Digg until today.
Thank you sir for accomplishing this feat, you truly are an idiot"
You must be new here.
thechauvinistFeb 8, 2012
Are you seriously asking how to fix Northern African violence? It starts w/ education and secular government.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
Of course I don't live in a city... it's like you can't click on my profile and see "Seattle, WA". (Of course, what you don't know is that my sister-in-law lives in Tacoma)
misterbadideaFeb 8, 2012
Someone brings up a gay man beaten to death, and you bring up being "shunned" on campus.
This is not a winning argument.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
People are beaten to death for a variety of issues everyday.
I dont see the gay community as worried about violent gangs in northern Africa.
Innocent people are robbed and attacked everyday because they have nice things on them [or the possibility of money], I dont see people up in arms worrying about protecting those with wealth. Quite the opposite.
You cant wage a war against violence.
These people who commit these actions are bullies. If they dont find an outlet in one area, its easy for them to have a different target.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
If you can wage a war on drugs, you can wage a war on violence.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
I dont support the drug war.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
I don't support it either. Which is irrelevant. You're nit-picking common turns of phrase. Next thing you'll be telling me that hacker doesn't mean someone who breaks into computer systems.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
Can you wage a war on all violence?
Will you stick up equally for all those bullied, or just for some pet-causes when you can?
Will you be able to conceive laws for every form of hate?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
neondistractionFeb 8, 2012
Even if they shun you, you aren't going to get beaten to death for it.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
But if you are unpopular socially, you may be beaten up for a variety of other issues. Groups work that way.
And again, violence happens for many reasons. More violent deaths happen due to money than to gay prejudice, wheres the uproar?
Violence happens everyday, going back to the start of man.
Bullies dont need a reason, and pretending they have one legitimizes the practice while concentrating on the wrong problem.
What is the difference between a man physically beaten to death on the streets for being gay and another for refusing to hand over money? They were both brutally murdered, only one gets a parade.
The world is a bigger place.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thechauvinistFeb 8, 2012
Well, antiquated ways of thinking tend to be looked down upon by critical thinkers.
I will respect your capacity to have a different opinion as me, so long as you respect mine. Which is something anti-choice people tend to do.
gaia242Feb 8, 2012
So you are going to get on digg (and maybe other social media too), spout your ass-a-nine political views, all while your profile is hawking your business too? STUPID is as stupid
pinkfish411Feb 8, 2012
Violence isn't the only way to measure bigotry. It's to be expected that bigotry against pro-lifers would take a different form than bigotry against gays because the two are coming from different sorts of people and are rooted in different drives.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
pinskiaFeb 9, 2012
Though the other way around is true. How many doctors do you know that have been killed because they were perceived as pro-choice?
ano233Feb 8, 2012
"Gay people" aren't usually trying to force their beliefs on others. Pro-Lifers on the other hand are constantly calling for legislation to require that everyone follow their views. Besides, I've never heard of anyone being fired/not-hired/discriminated against for being a Pro-Lifer. But I've heard of dozens of cases of gays being beaten/fired/excluded based on nothing but their lifestyle.
treehugger87Feb 7, 2012
I love it when conservatives whine about being treated unfairly. Maybe if they would keep their noses out of other peoples' business...
laborerFeb 8, 2012
Hmmm.. kinda like someone declaring what all needs to be included in a service sold by a private business to voluntary customers?
treehugger87Feb 8, 2012
Yeah, nothing like living in a society of laws to break up your little "no gays" policy at your stores.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
I was speaking about Obama blocking Catholic business' from providing services according to their own world philosophy.
treehugger87Feb 8, 2012
So if I'm a Muslim employer I don't have to hire women? If I'm a catholic employer I can fire my non-Catholic employee because she gets pregnant out of wedlock? If I'm a Baptist hospital I can turn away gay people?
The government is obligated to determine what is unfair and prevent those practices from being exercised.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
One is discrimination in the work place [your example], another is legislating what a business can sell.
One is Sony telling mexicans to get out of their stores [your example, which would be wrong], the other is the government telling Sony what all has to be included in the package they sell [BY DECREE OF LAW, SONY MUST NOW INCLUD X & Y chords and peripherals].
The first one would be wrong on the part of business, the second one is wrong on the part of the government.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
usarugulaFeb 8, 2012
Sorry, O’Reilly, but gay people are trying to secure their own rights, not limit the rights of others.
craigstellmacheFeb 7, 2012
Do you know of any Pro-Life suicides Mr. O'Reilly?
miklkitFeb 7, 2012
But we do know about pro-life murderers.
GentlemanGhost542Feb 8, 2012
and terrorists
captswuitsFeb 8, 2012
and sociallists
randomgorillaFeb 8, 2012
I've never heard of a pro-life socialist...
16x9Feb 8, 2012
Mr. O'Reilly is correct! Think about how many places in the U.S. it is illegal to marry if you are pro-life. And do you know how hard it is for pro-life people to get a job or find a place to live?
/s
solitaireroseFeb 7, 2012
Yes. Because gay people are known to have blown up clinics as well as attack and kill doctors they disagree with.
anomaly100Feb 7, 2012
Grrr! I hate when my gay friends do that!
laborerFeb 8, 2012
If those conservatives around the nation have to take up the mantle of those who committed violent actions deemed related to 'conservatism' by liberals, it seem only fair liberals take responsibility for the violent actions of the Palestinian radicals which they defend routinely and openly.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
anomaly100Feb 8, 2012
Yeah cuz us evil liberals are the ones that are bigots, amirite? By the way, one of yours won last night. Frothy Santorum, a gay hating Conservative.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
No bigot.
I was socially awkward and bullied in school, naturally many of my friends were gay.
They were my friends, but often they would harass me or pressure me. I understood their plight, theirs was a small world. Few people could understand them. I did to a point, and did not hold it against them.
Firm "no"'s, but no hate or malice.
While Santorum is pro-growth, I understand he is really socially conservative [evangelical]. I am an atheist, so I dont like that.
But heres the rub. They put god in public school, but they also support private school. If god is in public school, Id rather send my kid to my choice of private school [ie evolution only] and the child will probably receive a better education to boot.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
anomaly100Feb 8, 2012
Don't fall off the cliff. You're so far over to the right, I'm worried about you. Step away from the cliff.
I love how you turned this thread into 'all about you' and nothing about the subject at hand.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
If I didnt know better, it sounds like you care.
Maybe the world is too simple for my views. It seems you have to be either 'left' or 'right', 'pro-gay' or 'anti-gay'.
You cant be pro-gay-tolerance/love, but anti-culture war. The moment you think an old tradition should stay that way, you are evil. Even if you want the rights for everyone to be the same.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
anomaly100Feb 8, 2012
"Pro-gay"? What is that? Is that the same as indoctrinating our children with the "gay agenda" they speak of on Fox? There is no 'pro-gay'. There is pro-rights for everyone. Equality, for blacks, whites, Hispanics, gays, transgender, everyone.
laborerFeb 8, 2012
I thought it was pretty simple.
Pro-gay meaning tolerant and accepting of homosexuals and homosexuality. Pro-gay meaning pro-equal rights.
The legal and tax benefits are rights.
Marriage is a tradition, not a right.
Otherwise single people should be able to consentingly marry themselves, and poly's should be able to 'marry' in whatever quantity they wish.
Its always interesting debating you. You are so foxy when you get bent out of shape ;)
[No offense, I guess Im an evil chauvinist too]Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bookantFeb 8, 2012
"Marriage is a tradition, not a right. "
In order for that to be true, there would have to be NO governmental recogition or additional legal benefits than come with being married. As our libertarian-leaning friends sometimes say, government would have to be OUT of the marriage business completely. No such thing as legal marriage, for gays or straights, period. It's a religious ceremony only.
Which, of course, would immediately result in marriage equality for gays and lesbians. Since there are already plenty of churches that grant and recognize gay marriage, they would be free to get married in those churches. And would NO government recognition of ANY church's marriages, that put all marriages in the same status - recognized by the churches that performed them and NOT by the State.
salbatrossFeb 7, 2012
Bill O'Reilly is incredibly stupid sometimes. I really don't see how he doesn't see through his own bulls**t.
crom99Feb 7, 2012
Given his employer, I think he's contractually obligated to spout bulls**t at least 50% of the time.
CrescentSkies_2Feb 7, 2012
Come now crom be more proper and specific! ...it clearly states that he must spout bulls**t at least 90% of the time.
anomaly100Feb 7, 2012
Oh puh-leaze hater! He's a science genius.
breadfredFeb 8, 2012
No, he is not stupid. He klnows exactly what he is doing - do you believe that HE believes what he says? Of course not. He knows that by saying outrages things his audience will grow. And more audience = more advertisers = more money.
Really, he does not believe what he says. He is way to clever for that.
jeffrnoelFeb 8, 2012
I was just coming here to say that. He knows when he says something completely off the wall that every one is going to pick up his s**t and suddenly he's a hot topic again.
If it didn't happen like clock work I'd think he was nuts but every month or two he's on the front page of digg saying something else insane. There's no way it isn't planned.
UncleRuckuFeb 7, 2012
What a pro-life sentiment: War is good for the economy!
Rick Santorum: Attacking Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Won’t ‘Start A War’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a2xAz9uAqdo
wayzupFeb 8, 2012
Careful Bill, your ignorance is showing....
laurahoustonFeb 8, 2012
He's right, conservatives embolden bigotry
cowicideFeb 8, 2012
O'Reilly lives in bizarro-land. Over the years I've noticed he's getting more and more insane. His dementia is accelerating.
michrechFeb 8, 2012
Since they got rid of Beck, *SOMEONE* had to fill the clown shoes...
GentlemanGhost542Feb 8, 2012
clearly he is not paying attention to the reality of things
jpurdyFeb 8, 2012
Social conservatives have their own alternate world, it's quite different from reality.
martin92003Feb 9, 2012
More idiocy from the king of idiots.
timsmitFeb 9, 2012
Bill O'Reilly is a bigot against liberals. I am a bigot against idiots.
CrescentSkies_2Feb 9, 2012
I've never seen pro-choice people bang on my door late at night to inform me that I rightfully have a choice whether or not my wife and I want an abortion. Then I point to my lack of a wedding ring and the fact that I'm a virgin and they apologize and walk away.
Then I cry in the corner.
neverstandstillFeb 8, 2012
I wouldn’t put stock in ANYTHING Bill O’Reilly says. He has openly admitted that his show is held to no level of credibility since, technically, his show is considered an ‘opinion’ show. This guy is the poster boy of what is wrong with the media in America. All talk, all bias, and no merit.
paultripFeb 8, 2012
Oh how tiered I am of this man!
concusionFeb 8, 2012
O'Reilly is full of s**t. End of story. "Tides come in, tides go out"
marcglezFeb 9, 2012
Conservative Nazis Unite! Bill O'Reilly will say and do whatever crazy thing just so that he can get better ratings.
kip9999Feb 9, 2012
Billo presents his bigotry once again..
xx4001Feb 7, 2012
Pro life people deserve it more
dreamwarderFeb 8, 2012
"Pro life people deserve it"
there, fixed it.
reverantFeb 8, 2012
Only on Digg, in New York, or California
markwikFeb 8, 2012
I am pro life-on-life
laborerFeb 8, 2012
If you look at the votes on this page, O'Reilly starts to ring true.
His view is incomplete though.
Its not that there is more bigotry against pro-life people than gay people, its that there is more bigotry against non-liberal people than gay people.
What is especially bad is when these non-liberals are also shunned by traditional conservatives as well - because of their religious views or views on war or what have you [ie Im an atheist, but I support stopping genocide abroad and helping to modernize the 3rd world, all of which I have my own reasons for].
It seems there is no place in the world for a person outside the set parameters. Better start watching the talking faces again.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kantspelwriteFeb 8, 2012
Abortion is a cruel act to an unborn child who undergoes dismemberment and/or has his/her brains sucked out of it skull while still in it's mother's womb. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-487377/What-REALLY-happens-abortion-One-surgeon-finally-tells-truth.htmlComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
laurahoustonFeb 8, 2012
Try turning your email off for a week..you need sunlight to survive.
aristotle0dudeFeb 8, 2012
Try opening a window for oxygen or better yet, follow your own advice and go outside.
I go outside everyday when I walk to the train that I catch to go to work. I also walk to the train to go to grocery shopping if I happen to not have stopped on my way home from work.
With all of the oxygen surging through my brain, I was able to read the text posted by the OP and click the link. Apparently that was too difficult for you.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
laurahoustonFeb 8, 2012
I don't waste time clicking links to paid media. Have plenty of fresh air, I own a farm.
spectecjrFeb 8, 2012
Forgot to log back into your kantspelwrite account, I see?
aristotle0dudeFeb 9, 2012
Sorry? What the devil are you talking about? Are you suffering from oxygen deprivation as well?
neondistractionFeb 8, 2012
If you're going to cite sources to support your argument, you might want to pick a more reliable source than a two-bit tabloid.
usarugulaFeb 8, 2012
And they are delicious.
kcast985Feb 7, 2012
very well said Bill O'Reilly it has gotten to ridiculous levels of bigotry against us Pro-lifers. Almost like we're the ones who want to murder babies.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
salbatrossFeb 8, 2012
Define "ridiculous."
...and for that matter, "bigotry."
kcast985Feb 8, 2012
get a dictionary
TGRHvWGAFFeb 8, 2012
Get a better football team.
concusionFeb 8, 2012
BAM!
randomgorillaFeb 8, 2012
I think O'Reilly does that every time he speaks.
GentlemanGhost542Feb 8, 2012
are for real? seriously are you so foolish enough to compare the persecuting of a gays to pro-lifers?
You don't see the the Federal officers having to protect pro-lifers because people of the opposing view might try to kill them for performing procedures that some people are opposed to
TGRHvWGAFFeb 8, 2012
I understand why you feel that way... you must have had several of your prolife friends beaten or killed by pro-abortion activists and gay banditos.
pinkfish411Feb 8, 2012
And you've had several of your gay friends beaten or killed by pro-lifers?
TGRHvWGAFFeb 8, 2012
Extreme pro-lifers have encouraged and carried out the murder of multiple abortion doctors. Gays have absolutely been beaten and in rare cases killed because of their sexuality. No one has ever been killed for being a pro-lifer. No one has ever been beaten or killed for being straight.