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langfordJan 20, 2012
The problem isn't that Romney isn't paying what he is supposed to on his taxes, the problem is that he is paying what he is supposed to on his taxes, and it isn't an equitable arrangement for the nation. Gingrich doesn't even oppose Romney's level of taxes, he just happens to not be eligible to enjoy it himself. There is not a single potential Republican nominee that would fix what is wrong with Romney's wealth acquisition practices, even though they all want to pretend to be better than him for the sake of grabbing the nomination.
cyberdactylJan 20, 2012
Let's see, insane government spending didn't work. Now you want to increase the tax rate on capital gains (risk investment). Yea, sure, let's drive another nail in the coffin.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Dubya's unfunded mandates/spending and tax policies created the nations growing debt problems. Therefore, until Conservatives snap out of their ideological stupor and recognize that debt reduction requires attacking BOTH spending and revenue inadequacies. The country will NEVER fix the fiscal problems confronting the nation.
Until that moment occurs, conservatives will add NOTHING constructive to the debate/conversation. Credibility and political relevance go hand-in-hand.
austrologiJan 20, 2012
Who isn't it equitable for? The deadbeats wanting "their share"
publiclurkerJan 22, 2012
No, the people you whore for already have their handouts. We're wanting equity between them and the other 99%.
austrologiJan 22, 2012
I whore for? I think its in my own self interest to want a country where success isn't demonized and that some assh**e doesn't come along and claim their share of my money just by throwing around stupid s**t like "we are the 99%"...
Bulls**t, thats the 99%, those people are the 2% of socialist/marxist who will drive us to be the next greece. Do the world a favor and don't breed.
nerysJan 20, 2012
thats actually not too horrible. about equal to what I pay. now what does he pay in state and local taxes if any and what does he pay in property/school taxes if any.
and of course he does not get a "paycheck" so he does not have to lose wages to payroll taxes etc.. either.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
@langford,
The judgment you are applying to Mitt's tax obligations is HIGHLY subjective/biased, but is NOT supported by the views of MOST Americans/society.
The VAST majority of Americans support a progressive tax structure where millionaires/billionaires, like Mitt, pay a HIGHER share of their income in taxes than average Americans. Gaming the U.S. tax system in order to evade that tax obligation is a DISGRACE any way you or he may attempt to slice it. Legal technicalities and morality/responsibility are NOT close to being the same thing.
The reason the U.S. has a progressive tax system is to match the nation's revenues to it's expenditures (it's finance 101). To the extent ANY American evades their social responsibility to contribute towards that financial obligation, they are violating their fundamental citizenship responsibilities and the spirit of longstanding tax law. Warren Buffett understands this fundamental truth, but weasels, like Mitt Romney, NEVER will because it conflicts with their narcississtic flaws and greed. These character flaws make Mitt Romney unfit to EVER serve as U.S. President.
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Supporting a progressive tax system doesn't make it moral or right.
Don't forget the ultimate definition of democracy: two foxes and a chicken vote on what's for dinner.
I also disagree with your unsupported assumption that the "VAST" majority support a progressive tax system. As the question right and you'd be lucky to get 1/3...
eraptorJan 20, 2012
The nation didn't start "flattening" it's tax structure until Ronald Reagan was elected. If your tax policy theory about the "benefits" of less Progressivism were true, the nation's debt would be a SURPLUS, NOT drowning in red ink.
Before you point to Dubya's spending spree on the country's credit card, I'll simply point out that he FLATTENED the tax structure even more than Reagan did. Hell, even Dick Cheney knew that tax direction would drive the country's fiscal health into the ditch because he bragged that "deficits don't matter". Nothing like taking a drink before heading out on the road, huh?
Where do you suppose the country will get the money to pay off it's debt? The middle class? Sorry, pal, Conservatives have already cut them to the bone, so that "well is dry". There's no mor room to kick the can down the road and the credit card bill, your kind ran up, just landed at the Conservative's doorstep.
I support a Progressive tax structure because I believe in the promise of capitalism (which wouldn't survive OR thrive with a flat tax system). Unfortunately, U.S.-style capitalism doesn't work with a dysfunctional bankrupt government. You'll soon learn what it means to "starve the beast". The national blowback will turn downright NASTY now that the American people have awoken to who is responsible for it.
As a Republican strategist recently lamented..."we went and kicked the sleeping dog". A revolting comment when one considers that he and most Republican's view the American people in the same light as a DOG.
reaper527Jan 20, 2012
"Gaming the U.S. tax system in order to evade that tax obligation is a DISGRACE any way you or he may attempt to slice it."
if the law says that someone isn't eligible to pay something, it isn't their obligation. its not disgraceful to legally minimize a person's tax burden under our flawed and broken tax code.
throw the existing code out and start fresh, with lower rates and a "what you see is what you get" system that eliminates the role of creative accounting. as long as we have a system with deductions, there will be abuse. simple is best.
don't blame the rich simply because they play by the rules, and you don't happen to like the rules.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Tread VERY carefully.
You're debating a financial professional who is fully aware of those tax dodges along with how/why they're pulled off. Tax law is not as "black and white" as you appear to think it is. People like Mitt "bend/break" tax law beyond the point of credibility to pull off their tax scams.
As for "playing by the rules", Mitt didn't get rich by following that bold, wildly off-the-mark statement. People like Mitt changed the rules by gutting the very rules (aka deregulation) meant to protect the nation's economic strength and stability. That's how they came close to creating YET ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION.
If you think that's the way the U.S. economy SHOULD operate, then I hope you "reap what you sow"...financial bankruptcy and an absence of economic opportunity.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
To add, our present tax code is a direct reflection of provisions intentionally inserted by special interest groups representing people JUST like Mitt. That was NO accident.
Our government is populated by corporate hacks who do NOT represent the interests of MOST Americans. Based upon what I have personally witnessed, MOST of the political weasels responsible for this disgrace in government are Conservative.
YachtRokrJan 21, 2012
"its not disgraceful to legally minimize a person's tax burden under our flawed and broken tax code."
Of course it is. Those tax dodgers/deadbeats simply shift their financial obligations/responsibilities to responsible U.S. tax payers who are forced to make up for their tax evasion disgrace. Do you think the government gets the money to operate out of thin air?
It's time to bring the hammer down on tax deadbeats as represented by the top 1% and corporations who routinely exploit the nation and American people without contributing anything meaningful.
skagoJan 20, 2012
The reason he doesn't want to show is because of the 10% he gives to the LDS church. He doesn't want the SC religious freaks to freak out that he gives so much to his church. After SC he will release them.
YachtRokrJan 21, 2012
That's an interesting theory you have there, but it doesn't match reality. Those SC "religious freaks", as you call them, do not take issue with religious donations even when they are aimed at the Mormon church. Religious donations are an integral part of the culture.
As for taking exception with Mormonism on religious grounds, that isn't limited to SC or the prevalent religions in that state. Most people tend to vote for leader's who share their religious values. Would we expect a segment of society with a majority of Mormons (or any other religion) to behave any differently? Would regions with high percentages of Catholics prefer electing a Protestant or Muslim? In both cases, not likely. While religious bigotry may play a very small role on this issue, "shared values" play a much larger role in explaining the behavior.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
reaper527Jan 20, 2012
article headline:
"Gingrich paid $994,000 in taxes in 2010, nearly a third of his income that year"
digg headline:
"Newt Gingrich Releases 2010 Tax Returns: Made $3.1M, Paid $613K "
buried for inaccurate digg headline.
slang4catJan 20, 2012
Yeah, what's up with that?
reaper527Jan 20, 2012
there are only two real possible explanations.
1. washington post screwed up and fixed their headline after the article was submitted (wouldn't be the first time a website has done that)
2. the submitter had an agenda to push and is trying to paint newt as a tax evader (which is ridiculous anyways. no one should have to pay more in taxes than legally obligated. if people don't like how creative accounting can be used to manipulate the system, they should stop throwing a s**t fit every time someone proposes a simple "what you see is what you get" tax code)
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Exactly... if you don't like it that they don't pay "their fair share", then get rid of the entire US tax code, flatten the rates, eliminate deductions and reduce rates. Everyone will "pay their fair share", be less likely to dodge and revenues will increase.
But it's not about increased revenues... it's about redistribution.
cyberdactylJan 20, 2012
LOL, it's the far left inundation at digg. If you buried every misleading title concerning politics, you'd be looking at Mila Kunis photos or reading Steve Job fanboy articles.
Ouzel7Jan 21, 2012
:)
limitgovJan 20, 2012
And still Newt supoports:
endless wars
drug wars
TSA
DHS
Federal Reserve
Income Tax
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
He also supports using the government through laws and the tax code to manipulate human behavior. He thinks he can make perfect citizens if he is in charge and just has enough authority. He is a neocon authoritarian.
slang4catJan 20, 2012
And still so does your Highness Obama.
BluntzworthJan 20, 2012
Umm.. I think that I can safely say that limiltgov does not like Obama. You slang are just so blind that you see an attack on Newt as a sword being weilded by an Obama supporter. LOL
slang4catJan 20, 2012
Sorry, I guess I meant *your* Highness Obama.
My apologies to limitgov for mistaking him for an idiot.
You on the other hand, well...
BluntzworthJan 23, 2012
Slang, your above post is the definition of irony.
Reread it and think about it.
LOL
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Both do... let's not pretend there is that much of a difference.
breadfredJan 21, 2012
Your continuous use of 'your highness Obama' says more about you than anyone else. It says you cannot see beyond a person - you cannot see ideas or actions. In your shallow 'opinion' Obama is bad regardless.
It must be great having such a simple mind where everything is black or white.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thechauvinistJan 20, 2012
Well, Newt's taxes seem to be in order. I'd like to see Romney's. I have a good feeling he's stashed a lot of it away in the Caymans to avoid paying taxes on it.
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
And I'd bet all that he's stashed is stashed legally. Good for him. Keep it out of the hands of Washington bureaucrats who will just waste it.
bille3Jan 20, 2012
Whether in a bank or an investment in the Caymans does not hide your money from the IRS. Just like putting it in a Swiss Bank does not hide it either. Over 30 years ago all of that changed and the IRS follows you where ever you try to take your money.
If Romney has money in the Caymans it is most likely in an investment there. All earnings are reported to the IRS.
roguegeniusJan 21, 2012
Uh, that would all be great if not for one thing. It's wrong. The Caymens IS the place to go to tax dodge. It simply is.
Why do you think making up a lie that anyone who has ever seen a... Hell, even a James Bond movies knows is false? What did that gain you except confirm that you and your ilk are all liars?
Ouzel7Jan 21, 2012
The Clintons also have money in the Caymans.
ledgeronthelawJan 20, 2012
Oh, well then this is a high gross. How the people should take this?
drumcyborgJan 20, 2012
If a president is supposed to represent The People, how does having made $3.1 million last year alone help Gingrich understand the remaining 99.5% of the population that made nowhere near that?
Romney is in the same boat...his worth is like $250 million.
Why is it we have to choose from stunningly wealthy stuffy old men that have no F'n clue what the real people of the country are like?
irvman21Jan 20, 2012
Because nobody wants someone who has never been able to rise above the level of a manager at a regional paper supply company becoming leader of the free world.
drumcyborgJan 20, 2012
Well, the last few 'leaders of the free world' came from the wealthiest segment and summarily ruined our economy and uglied our face to the rest of the world.
I believe you have some thinking to do....Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
BluntzworthJan 20, 2012
"Last few" as in the last 44 presidents.
drumcyborgJan 20, 2012
Well, a few of them might have been better than others. The recent dozen or so have been pretty terrible, some more than others.
I think it is time to re-evaluate how we look for leaders. Just sayin...
BluntzworthJan 20, 2012
I agree.
Angry_MuppetJan 21, 2012
The last one anointed had absolutely zero leadership experience. The nation has faired far worse.
reaper527Jan 20, 2012
"If a president is supposed to represent The People, how does having made $3.1 million last year alone help Gingrich understand the remaining 99.5% of the population that made nowhere near that?
Romney is in the same boat...his worth is like $250 million."
judging by his absence in your post, i take it you haven't looked at obama's finances yet?
bille3Jan 20, 2012
So instead keep putting attorney's that have never held a private sector job of any kind in charge of government as we have been doing? It seems that career politicians that are attorney's do not make very good law makers or public administrators.
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Buried because I don't give a damn about anybody's tax returns. If they made their money honestly... good for them. I'm trying to do likewise.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
I'd like a show of hands on who paid more taxes than what the law said they legally owed.
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
I'd like a round of applause for anyone who paid less in taxes than what the "law" says they legally owed.
reaper527Jan 20, 2012
nobody pays less than what the law says they legally owe. if they do, they go to jail.
liberals insist on keeping this overgrown, overcomplicated tax code, yet whine and complain whenever the rules of their monstrosity allow people who can afford good accounts to pay less than sticker price.
if you don't like creative accounting, embrace a system like fair tax or 9-9-9, where there is no wiggle room and it is "what you see is what you get"
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
"nobody pays less than what the law says they legally owe. if they do, they go to jail."
Weird, I didn't go to jail.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Pray the IRS doesn't catch wind...
linuxpersonJan 21, 2012
Just like I pray that I don't get mugged and robbed.
eraptorJan 21, 2012
@linux,
If you don't want to contribute to American society, then you shouldn't benefit from it.
NO one is stopping you from renouncing your citizenship and leaving the country. We won't miss you as there are more than a few foreign nationals willing to take your place AND make the national contributions you keep whining about.
You live in one of the greatest nations in the world, but all you want to do is freeload off the contributions/sacrifices of others. Thank your lucky stars that you make enough to create a tax obligation when millions of your fellow Americans had the economic rug yanked out from under them through no fault of theirs. That's the consequence of economic/fiscal theories your ilk championed over the past 30 years.
linuxpersonJan 23, 2012
"If you don't want to contribute to American society, then you shouldn't benefit from it. "
...because the amount of money one gives to the IRS is the measure of one's contribution to American society.
"NO one is stopping you from renouncing your citizenship and leaving the country. We won't miss you as there are more than a few foreign nationals willing to take your place AND make the national contributions you keep whining about."
I love your contrived collectivist tone, it warms my heart.
"You live in one of the greatest nations in the world, but all you want to do is freeload off the contributions/sacrifices of others. "
Freeload?
According to you, if a waitress doesn't accurately report her tips to the IRS she is a criminal who doesn't contribute to American society that should go to another country.
How very liberal! You should be proud. I guess that means kids (like you), retired people, disabled people, and anybody else who doesn't pay their "fair share" should be deported.
"That's the consequence of economic/fiscal theories your ilk championed over the past 30 years."
Again with your idiotic sweeping generalizations, such an intellectual powerhouse you are.
roguegeniusJan 20, 2012
Yes. Please do. But wait a second, I've I need to get the IRS on speed dial.
I always pay my taxes to the best of my ability. It gives me the right to bitch about what is wrong.
If there is a bad spot in my street I call and raise holy hell. If there is a bad spot on your street you just shut the f**k up and be thankful the rest of us gave you a street, freeloader.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
"I've I need to get the IRS on speed dial."
Put your local university system on there too, will ya?
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Why do most people insist on conflating federal with state with local government and taxes. The federal government has no constitutional authority to pay for local roads.
(Just because it does, doesn't make it right)Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
roguegeniusJan 20, 2012
So you don't use the interstate system?
Note that use is taciturn acceptance that you agree with it.
unclefireJan 20, 2012
The feds (right or wrong) also give money to states for local highway projects.
roguegeniusJan 21, 2012
It's right. This 'if states do the same thing' BS is just holdover crap from the confederacy. This is Andrew Johnson's fault. How could it possibly make a difference if it's the state or the fed?
It's just right winger hick talk.
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
Oh noes! Gingrich and Romney made more money than I did. That makes them evil and they should be forced to give me some because they are greedy!
I want some of their money because they are greedy. They are so greedy that I deserve to have their money. I want their money. I covet their money. They make more than me and that gives me a frowny face so they should have to give me some of their greedy money so I can have a happy face.
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
How dare those greedy bastards want to keep the money they earned. I don't make enough money, their money should be MINE. I own a house, a car, and everything a person could ever need in life, but I need their money damn it!
Damn greedy assh**es, GIVE ME MONEY GOVERNMENT!
eraptorJan 20, 2012
All the deflection in the world won't give you any credibility on this issue, Linux. That whooshing sound is the point of that criticism going over your head.
I find it particularly amusing how you defend the REAL theives in our society while attempting to deflect blame to their surrogates in government.
GET A CLUE!!!!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
linuxpersonJan 21, 2012
Credibility? This is an anonymous internet forum tough guy, grow up.
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Do you honestly believe the "envy" crap conservatives keep spouting to deflect the justifiable outrage aimed at Mitt's underhanded business practices?
I suppose we should also ignore justifiable criticism aimed at medical quacks because we're "envious" of their professional credentials too, huh?
Do you see people cricizing EVERY wealthy person (e.g., Steve Jobs or Warren Buffett) in the same fashion as Mitt? No? Hmm...I wonder why?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
If he broke a law, prosecute and punish him. If he didnt, then STFU.
Cool pic for your ID though. I approve.
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
He made more than I did, therefore he broke the law. That greedy assh**e should give me all his money, even though I already have enough money.
What kind of a greedy assh**e insists that "rich" people should be able to keep the money they earn instead of giving it to somebody who doesn't deserve it and doesn't need it?
roguegeniusJan 21, 2012
He made more than you did... there for he flips burgers or better.
linuxpersonJan 23, 2012
herp derp
roguegeniusJan 23, 2012
Yuk yuk
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Unless you're Mitt Romney, don't get so testy...
There's more than one way to "prosecute" someone in society. A court of law is simply one means of doing so, revoking their social privileges (i.e., Presidential aspirations) for behavior society finds abhorrent is another (i.e., Court of Public Opinion).
Even when some weasels aren't prosecuted for their business/medical shenanigans in court, the ensuing consumer boycott from "word-of-mouth" slams their business/life. I've witnessed as much over the years. Trust is the foundation of any business.
P.S. Thanks for the pic compliment. Looked for a Peregrine Falcon in a high speed dive as it nailed it's prey, but they're hard to find. It takes a high speed camera and a lot of luck to nail that shot.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
One of my hobbies is taking pictures of birds of prey. Where I live there are many, mostly hawks. Beautiful birds.
Please dont take my post as any kind of support for Romney. I have no intention of voting for him. I dont like him and I think he would not make a good president. But, I dont care that he is rich and I dont care how much he pays in taxes as long as he isnt breaking any laws.
eraptorJan 21, 2012
I'm with you on the incredible sight posed by those birds. I'm fortunate to have a wide variety of owls, hawks, eagles and falcons where I live.
To put my issues with Romney into better context, imagine going to dinner with a group of friends on a routine basis where everyone pitches in to pay the group tab. Then, one day, you discover that one of those "friend's" has been shorting the bill at everyone else's expense (even though he's one of the wealthiest in the group who also happens to choose the most expensive items on the menu). Would you condone his actions or take issue with it?
Remember, his behavior is not illegal, but it's also not socially acceptable. This is a simple example of the problem faced by tax dodgers like Mitt. They shift the financial burdens of their responsibilities onto others since everyone else has to pay more because they don't cover their personal financial obligations/responsibilities.
Hopefully, this sheds more light on the problems posed by tax dodgers, like Mitt. Accusations of "envy" are nothing but a distraction from the REAL issue involved here. Taking responsibility for one's own financial obligations.
P.S. I've never been jealous or envious of the wealth created/held by others because I'm financially independent and a capitalist. My aversion to white collar crime and irresponsible behavior in the private sector comes from decades of witnessing the economic devastation it ALWAYS creates. I don't know what your specialty happens to be, but it would be comparable to the way a respiratory specialist feels every time they see a smoker lighting up.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tedadesJan 21, 2012
That is about $1M less then he would have paid if he would have lived in the Netherlands.
rudegarJan 20, 2012
still doubt newt can beat rummy
and hope the religious nut Santorum will never win
eraptorJan 20, 2012
Santorum has already won (over 4 times the margin Mitt claimed to have)...in Iowa.
roguegeniusJan 21, 2012
I think Newt can win. Luckily, I don't think either of them can beat Obama, but he can for sure beat Romney.
specimen7Jan 21, 2012
If you do not pay 613K in taxes every year, shut the f**k up you leeches.
spatula7Jan 20, 2012
"And I pay a lot of taxes. I’ve been very successful"....good for him....he admits his success has not been ruined by paying taxes. As long as the tax burden is fair for all and government is held accountable for its spending, there is likely no disagreement on taxes. All I can think is, Mitt has a lot of explaining to do.
alanocuJan 20, 2012
Meanwhile, President Mickey Mouse is vacationing at DisneyWorld while the rest of the country is scraping bottom on food stamps.
Your move, Barack.
novenatorJan 20, 2012
Yeah, because conservatives like you like to complain about Obama playing golf and making a presidential salary of $350k/year while ignoring your boy Romney raking in tens of millions per year.
You goons have no idea how idiotic and hypocritical you sound, which is delicious! I shall feast on your tears in November.
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
Who cares who makes what?
How much did you make last year Novenator? How much did you pay in taxes and how much did you pay in charity?
Maybe financial statistics of every American should be made available for the general public to see. There should be a website where you could go to see how much your neighbor makes. Lets go one step further and put on that same website their credit score and their debt to income ratio.
Also, we should make all private activities made public. Everything about anyone should be accessible to anyone at any time.
Is my neighbor jacking it to some gay porn? Lemme look.....yep!
There should be no privacy at all anymore. Then we will all be equal and equality is the single only solitary thing we should worry about.iComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
Shall I re-post your comment about how you promised to change your user name to "idiot" is the Democrats lost the House in 2010?
Your track record of predictions isn't good, Ole.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
That's hilarious, please post the link.
charlotte_webJan 20, 2012
Found it:
http://digg.com/news/politics/10_Essential_Midterm_Races_to_Watch_in_2010
linuxpersonJan 20, 2012
He only said that he would make his profile say, "Idiot" not his username.
Still though, he did accurately predict his own idiocy. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
bobcat7407Jan 20, 2012
Didn't he do it? I sort of remember this and, to give him credit, I think he did change his name for a while. That doesn't change that the prediction was wrong though, if that was your point .
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
He's made a bunch of predictions and he's always wrong.
And no he didn't do it. Novenator? Are you kidding? Dude doesn't have an ounce of integrity in his whole body.
roguegeniusJan 20, 2012
Seriously? You people keep links like that?
Jesus, what a pathetic lot. If I want to make fun of something stupid you said I would just go back a couple of days. Something will pop up.
Actually, I won't even do that. As long as you aren't currently saying something stupid under a topic I care about, I'll largely leave you alone.
Digg really is good therapy. Whenever I want to feel good about myself, I just pop in and see how you lowlifes are doing and that always makes me feel better.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
I like having you around too, because most undereducated idiots I ridicule get embarrassed and slink away. You, on the other hand, seem impervious to the fact that you're a moron and ought to be ashamed and happily come back for more. That makes it fun.
You're like a undersized fish that never grows much, and must be caught and released...not big enough for a real fight or any sense of accomplishment for having landed it, but still just adequate enough for some limited amusement.
Thanks.
roguegeniusJan 20, 2012
Smile: See what I mean? How easy was that? I can get your goat anytime I want.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
Hahaha...yes, your smile strikes me as the kind I used to see from my kindergarten classmates right after they'd had 'an accident' and needed to be excused.
bluenose2Jan 20, 2012
@ Atom.. you are such a sweetheart!!! LOL
ghengiskhan1Jan 20, 2012
A magnificent insult sir.
My kids like to catch small fish. They think its fun. But they are kids.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
Thank you. rogue's comments often provide a great outlet for me to hone my skills.
kingnovaJan 20, 2012
LMAO. AHM thinks calling someone an internet, anonymously, on Digg is a "skill".
Well, I guess most teenagers DO think crap like that, so it makes sense.
I'll give AHM credit for this: He knows to call Obama words synonymous with "uppity" rather than coming straight out and using the words he really WANTS to use. "Egotistical", "arrogant", "great hubris", etc. when we all know he just thinks "that uppity negro needs to learn his place".Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomheartmotherJan 20, 2012
"AHM thinks calling someone an internet, anonymously, on Digg is a "skill"."
Calling someone an internet? Jesus dude, are trying to outdo rogue for sheer ineptitude and idiocy here? Congratulations, I think you've managed it with that nonsense.
But really, get the victim-hood chip off your shoulder will ya? I don't dislike Obama because he's half black, hell I don't even dislike him...just think he's a failure.
And I don't dislike you because you're half black... I do dislike you though...but only because you're a hypocritical, boring leech.
roguegeniusJan 21, 2012
Oh, king it is a skill. And I owned atom. That' why he's got all his 'friends' and dummies to post. I don't bother with that. I just keep bitchslapping.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ferretmanJan 22, 2012
WOW...he *did* actually promise that.
Guess you DON'T "put your money where your mouth is", do ya, Novy?
a2fanJan 20, 2012
Fact check: the President makes 400K/yr, with a 50K/yr expense account. This doesn't factor in the many 'perks' that deservedly go with the office.
With the weight of the free world and a cantankerous nation on his back, I don't begrudge any POTUS from taking time away from DC with their family now and then, and I don't care what party they're affiliated with. It's a stressful job.
devnulldoodJan 20, 2012
Whats wrong with Romney making a lot of money? Its not tax payers money.
I don't really care how much money Obama makes off the tax payer either because he is the President and should be paid.
What bothers me is how often he spends his time golfing and vacationing. As a tax payer, I kinda feel that I'm not getting my money worth out of him. Considering the current state of the country, I feel he should be working more.
patrickhenryiiJan 20, 2012
Not only that, but Romney has donated his public salaries (both from the Olympics and as governor) to charity. He has given away more money than most of us will ever make in a lifetime.
breadfredJan 21, 2012
So why does he not want us to see how he makes his money, and how much? If he is going to rule your country, you should know his background - his actual background, not the one he wants you to know.
I cannot believe you actually do NOT want to know what he is about. That is not just sticking your head in the ground, it is digging a whole, sticking your head in and than filling it with concrete.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kasha34Jan 22, 2012
We should see his background?
Did you say that about Obama?
patrickhenryiiJan 23, 2012
What do you mean "See his background"? He's not in jail? He ran a successful private venture capital firm. He's not a mob boss. He's not done anything illegal. He's been the governor of a major state. He's already been vetted for skeletons in his closet.
Besides, are YOU going to understand his tax returns? I doubt it. The IRS can't even agree with itself about different provisions in the law. Producing tax returns is not about anything except "gotcha" politics. It's food for the "newshole."
Mitt's returns will not tell me anything about him that I don't already know.
Angry_MuppetJan 21, 2012
Romney isn't the president, s**thead. Obama is, and he's continued to show a complete lack of leadership, and inability to articulate a plan or even have a f**king clue.
You really want to give him another 4 years?
salbatrossJan 20, 2012
I'll remember that next time a Republican is in office, that apparently no president should take vacations as long as any Americans are poor.
ganjadude4391Jan 20, 2012
your side, as well as I, was bitching and moaning whenever bush went to his ranch so...its already happened, the left can dish it out but call them out on the same thing and its excuses excuses excuses
bigbert81Jan 20, 2012
Yeah!!! I'd way rather have Obama pandering to the poor by acting like one.
What a dick he is for making lots of money and using it.
And this is a few months old, but quite eye opening...a simple Google search is all it takes sometimes to learn something new:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/17/eveningnews/main20093801.shtml
As you'll see, his vacation time averages less than 3 weeks per year. So, is it the amount of time Obama spends vacationing that's upsetting you, or is it that he can afford a better vacation than you can?
Trust me brother, if you want to find the politicians who are out of touch, just listen to what they say and how they say it.
al3efromanJan 20, 2012
CBS addressed this the last time people flipped out about his vacationing, in August. Bush had 3X the amount of vacation on the books. Reagan had almost 2X. It strikes me that the office of President might be a hard job. It also strikes me that we live in the 21st century where people telecommute all the time. Do you really think the Executive Branch of the United States can't figure that out? It looks to me like they've had it figured out for at least the last 30 years.
"So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/17/eveningnews/main20093801.shtml
Edit: Didn't see the exact same link, one comment above
ncmusicJan 20, 2012
You're on food stamps? Man you're a bigger hypocrite than I thought.
analogkid1Jan 21, 2012
He paid "nearly a third of his income". So did I. What's your point?
kcast985Jan 20, 2012
So liberals did he pay enough in taxes or does he need to pay even more to your government that can't even balance its books
kyomagiJan 20, 2012
You mean Balance GWB's 12 Trillion dollar debt? you must have forgotten right?
concusionJan 20, 2012
he wants to pay the debt but he doesnt want rich people to pay it, so he thinks it will magically dissapear.
kcast985Jan 20, 2012
no thats clearly what liberals think thats why they haven't proposed a budget in 3 years and want to continue medicare spending at its current levelsComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kcast985Jan 20, 2012
lmao Obama 5 trillion added in debt in one term
kyomagiJan 20, 2012
oh really, that why the debt hit close to 12.5 T before Obamas 4th Month? Ya you baggers sure love making up numbers
kcast985Jan 20, 2012
more like 10 trillion but thats okay
kyomagiJan 20, 2012
i miss spoke, it was 11.9 before Obama started getting his bills passed in september, but whos counting right?
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
bobcat7407Jan 20, 2012
@kyo
So he's at about 3.3 trillion so far with over 1.5 years left (until September 2013). It may not be 5 trillion yet, but it seems to be heading that way by the time he has had one term.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
bobcat7407Jan 20, 2012
I should also say I do not hold him completely responsible, he was simply one of the people responsible for the debt. Congress controls the purse strings and I hold them much more responsible than the President.
linuxpersonJan 23, 2012
"Congress controls the purse strings and I hold them much more responsible than the President."
Technically the President could veto this garbage, even though it would be unprecedented in contemporary history.
That being said, when Congress is controlled by big spenders with different letters next to their names they would probably overcome the veto.
roguegeniusJan 20, 2012
"lmao Obama 5 trillion added in debt in one term"
I think you mean IYHO, not LMAO. And that was Bush's too. Obama just didn't repeal it.
You scrotebaggers are just going to have to accept the fact that everything that has gone wrong in the economy wouldn't have if we'd have elected anybody but Bush in 2000.
concusionJan 20, 2012
trying to clean up your boys 8 year coke binge, lol you're a dick if you are going to talk about Obamas spending and neglect to mention it was cleaning up your boys mess. Have some god damned integrity.
markglJan 23, 2012
Nope. Be you seem to have forgotten Obama has racked up more debt than all the other presidents combined. He is not the answer to America problems right now.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-has-now-increased-debt-more-all-presidents-george-washington-through-george-hw
eraptorJan 20, 2012
While I'm not a liberal it's hard to see what point your making about deficit reduction...reducing it's revenues will "magically" reduce the nation's debt?
Stay off the 'shrooms because your fiscal/ideological hallucinations are making you and the nation into a tragic joke.
markglJan 23, 2012
No, cutting spending will be because if we keep giving the government more money they'll keep spending it like there's no tomorrow.
ferretmanJan 22, 2012
So that's about 20% taxes and 2% to charity....not bad, about my average for last year.
rubourdJan 21, 2012
Way to go Newt. Pay them taxes!
jpn592Jan 20, 2012
and Romney was sketchy about his, Ron Paul deserves to be heard on a serious national level, we've been saying it for decaded