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gregwhitworthJan 15, 2012
One of my favorite things about the Daily Show and Colbert report is that they call out both parties.
nygenxerJan 15, 2012
Gee, if only other "news" shows were similarly fair and balanced...
:)
h8f8kesJan 15, 2012
Like MSNBC or Politicsusa?
laborerJan 15, 2012
Or CNN, or ABC?
h8f8kesJan 15, 2012
CNN and NBC do have a slant, but they make a reasonable attempt at objectivity.
juststeveJan 16, 2012
More importantly, they do not deliberately lie and intentionally (shamelessly?) distort.
spider_manJan 15, 2012
Yeah 1 call out on the left for every 100 call outs on the right. True objective reporting indeed.
smotpokerJan 15, 2012
You can't be objective by expecting everyone to be equal. If the right is wrong 100x more, a party can certainly call them out 100x more and remain objective.
cantstopwontstopJan 15, 2012
actually I find that the daily show is heavily biased. they don't really 'call out' so much as 'mention' things. sure they'll make fun of democrats for things, but they won't go as far as to condemn them, it's more like a playful teasing. they definitely try to give the illusion of non-bias, to the point where it's obvious they know they're being bias and actively trying to dissuade you from that conclusion and people fall for it hook line and sinker.
I'm a democrat myself but I will not blindly defend people just because of their political affiliations. And just because he goes after some smaller left wingers, he doesn't really go after the big ones when it matters and when he mentions things that you should condemn them for, he just shrugs and brushes it aside nonchalantly.
the title of this article itself is part of that illusion I speak of. think about it real hard. hypocritical lefty journalists = picking on lefty journalists with right wing beliefs = right wing wrong, left wing good. hubba hubba. in the video he's not exactly calling out lefty journalists, their political affiliations have nothing to do with what the discussion is about.
here's a video that shows an example of the bias:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdW4geJ-likComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
laborerJan 15, 2012
As for the Daily Show, the trick is making you feel its subversive, so you dont actually do any further thinking through. No detective work on the larger philosophy of it all.
Conservative sources do it too. Though differently.
The trick for them is making viewers feel patriotic and free, so they dont actually worry about the details.
As I have come to understand it, liberals have more facts but form a weak philosophy, while most conservatives have a strong philosophy, but cite dubious sources.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
igorunchainedJan 16, 2012
I would disagree because I know PLENTY of people who dont know ANYTHING about politics, but start watching The Daily Show or Colbert for the humor. Eventually, they find out they have to at least KNOW who Rick Santorum is before they are going to get some of the jokes. It behooves them to have a working-knowledge of people like Bachmann, Wiener, Pelosi, and Palin or you wont get the jokes.
If you watch Family Guy and you arent a pop culture geek, you probably dont get at least 1/3 of the jokes...and you may begin to (incorrectly) think that it is because the show isnt funny and not because you are ignorant.
Watch Colbert at the President's Press Dinner or Steward on Crossfire....this isnt just a "watch us and be good consumers" mentality, they "lead" by example and ask their viewers to get into the process. A spoon full of dick jokes help the medicine go down.....but that isnt "brainwashing".
busterblackJan 16, 2012
John Stewart himself has said many times before that he is just a comedian. And, like many other comedians, he is politically aware. But, as a comedian, his job is to entertain. Which is why, for the past decade, he has won every Emmy for best late night show. So, you can really only read into his show as much as you read into The Late Night Show with Jimmy Fallon, or Conan O'Brien.
The term "political philosophy" is just another way of saying "political view". Philosophies held by both liberals and conservatives are actually influenced by the same facts. However, conservatives are more likely to respond to these facts with religious perspectives. That being said, to say that liberals have "a weak philosophy" is basically saying that, without religion or faith, it is not as strong. So, basically, you're just sugar-coating a biased and degrading point of view.
misterbadideaJan 15, 2012
"in the video he's not exactly calling out lefty journalists, their political affiliations have nothing to do with what the discussion is about."
Why should it?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cantstopwontstopJan 15, 2012
because the point of the article states 'jon stewart calls out hypocritical lefty journalists'. which reaffirms my point that jon stewart is soft on democrats.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johnnysoftwareJan 16, 2012
Was your cable TV connection broken this winter?
You ever hear of a company called "MF Global" and the scandal that erupted around it 'losing' way over a billion dollars of its clients money? Not their client's investment money, mind you -- money that was just in holding accounts so that when the client placed an order, their money would be available.
Well, it kinda got looted. At least that is how it seems. That wasn't very 'compliant' with how things were supposed to go. And some of the investors weren't just guys with an extra few hundred million dollars lying around. They were vital US institutions like universities.
Mind you, the money that MF Global 'lost' wasn't even invested yet. It was just ... within arms' reach, so to speak.
Daily Show did a story on that. It wasn't gentle about it.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-8-2011/the-walking-debt
Jon used the words "cluster f__k" and "mother f__k" to describe Corzine's MF Global.
Jon seemed to hit the subject as hard as any other, regardless of the fact that Corzine was a Democratic politician; serving as both Governor and Senator of NJ.
I defy you to watch that video and then go give Corzine your life savings' or your companies', claiming, "well, that guy didn't seem to do all that bad a job according to Jon Stewart!"
Seriously, you need to stop going shots from the FOX "everyone who is not FOX lets everyone do everything". FOX lets people get away with a lot.
For instance breaking into private telephone messages of innocent crime victims and possibly not yet corrupted officials. That they hit really hard, but not the way an ethical law abiding news conglomerate would.
As for "liberal lefty" news organizations, wake up. The big broadcast networks, the ones with the evening news, they are owned by giant global manufacturing/retail & government defense contracting companies. How left or liberal is that?
See how much CBS plastered all over the airwaves and the web that they own Download.com/CNET/ZDNET through CBS interactive, and stand to blame in conjunction with a Microsoft Bing marketing partner with infecting many Windows computers running IE 9 with malware/adware and hijacking user's web searches from Google or whatever to Bing.
CBS isn't exactly trotting that one out all over the place.
CBS was also a big backer of SOPA.
You need to read the news broadly instead of just parroting what one Australian mogul says.
You want to see bias, don't watch one segment and don't watch just one channel or one nation's publishers even. Watch a whole documentary for starters.
http://www.outfoxed.org/
Not many corporations have a whole page featuring their misconduct on Wikipedia.
But Fox News does and boy is it not short or sweet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies
crashdvisJan 16, 2012
John Stewart calls out both sides. Colbert is a shill for the left.
tomboysJan 14, 2012
Brilliant!
CrescentSkies_2Jan 14, 2012
Hypocritical Journalists? MADNESS!
...this still surprises people?
markseydelcomJan 15, 2012
Love it!
laborerJan 15, 2012
Can he interview Digg?
johnnysoftwareJan 16, 2012
She sounded so reasonable at the start. About 10 seconds in, reasonable fell off a cliff and didn't get back up again.
onthetrailJan 15, 2012
We need lots more of this.
TGRHvWGAFJan 15, 2012
Kudos to TDS for calling out the left as well as the right. Apparently Mrs. Harrop isn't familiar with the Coffee Party and their Civility Pledge.
indurenJan 15, 2012
That was painful to watch, but necessary.
karmashockJan 15, 2012
Hilarious though sadly old... this should have been news months ago... not now.
laborerJan 15, 2012
Damage control?
karmashockJan 15, 2012
What damage? The left ignored it and successfully suppressed it. Bringing this up is an old wound effectively.
laborerJan 15, 2012
So you say it was damaging to the liberals when it happened?
Wounding, even?
karmashockJan 15, 2012
No, it was damaging to the right and they were unable to fix the situation because the libel wasn't taken seriously by press. They just said ridiculous things and got away with it. Stewart is bringing it up because it is funny and they apparently needed material. He makes fun of lefties when he runs out of things to say about righties... He has a show every week night. You run through material fast at that rate. So he had to res something that happened almost a year ago and really has been going on from the start of the tea party.
I'm grateful for his attention on the issue... I just wish he had been more timely about it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
KapsiotJan 17, 2012
Way to go John Stewart!
sziyanJan 15, 2012
That's awesome, good luck!
Closed AccountJan 15, 2012
love them all
nygenxerJan 15, 2012
"It’s fun watching Ms. Harrop attempt to explain why her personal attacks are legitimate but attacks from the right are not."
No, it's fair and balanced. Other "news" shows ought to try it sometime.
skews13Jan 15, 2012
He sure did. Then went right back to trashing rightwingers in less than a minute. Jon rolls like that.
h8f8kesJan 15, 2012
I respect Stewart in that he does admit his partisanship but is not afraid to call out the stupidity of all ilks.
nygenxerJan 15, 2012
Me too.
nygenxerJan 15, 2012
It's called being fair and balanced.
laborerJan 15, 2012
trollolololol
crymtyphonJan 15, 2012
In Harry Potter, a teacher rushes into the dining room
shouting 'troll in the basement!' then faints.
But later we learn he put the troll there; in fact
he is insane/evil and has the face of voldemort on the
back of his head.
Mr. Stewart is doing a quick smack-down of people
with two faces.
Shout 'troll in the basement!' and we will digg you up
unless I am putting you on.
laborerJan 15, 2012
Voldemort is like what? Aleister Crowley?
crymtyphonJan 15, 2012
Aleister Crowley was the first internet troll;
actually preceding the internet by several decades.
But he had 'troll' down.
He inserted himself everywhere, proclaiming
he was "the wickedest person in the world";
drearily attempting to make the mockery
of daily rituals of goodness and honesty
a kind of fashion statement.
Failing, naturally.
Hitler yawned; the world shrugged;
and the war between those with the ambition to
be honest, against those with the ambition to
make morality their slave, went on without him.
No loss.
laborerJan 15, 2012
Crowley had no effect on philosophy or spiritualism?
Look at religion in Europe [and even in parts of America] today.
You may say he was part of the trend, but each wave adds to the swell.
I might not speak for so many people, but we two are at least both talking about him.
That is more of a mark than some.
crymtyphonJan 15, 2012
Anyone can leave a mark.
An assassin who spent his years before
in triviality; and his life afterwards in obscurity.
A random comment from a random bystander
in front of a random camera.
The one-hundred and sixty-fourth most read
editorial writer misquoting a cliche that
becomes a world-shaking meme.
We are all rocks tossed in the pond; who can say
where the ripples will end.
What counts?
is what mark you have ambitions to make.
Crowley left us the lasting lesson that
the ambition to be evil is indistinguishable
from someone philosophizing while wearing
red rubber nose, a bright orange
wig and size twenty shoes.
I admit, that is a powerful mark.
countess666Jan 15, 2012
"Then went right back to trashing rightwingers in less than a minute."
they must have deserved it, like this lady has. i see nothing wrong with that.
unless you think the right is infallible.
laborerJan 15, 2012
You think the Daily Show deals it out in equal ratios?
Werent the liberals crying for the Fairness Doctrine when the right wing had radio?
misterbadideaJan 15, 2012
"You think the Daily Show deals it out in equal ratios?"
No, nor do I think it should.
People describe The Daily Show as unbiased but that doesn't describe the program in any way, and it would make the show worthless if it were true. When people say the Jon Stewart is unbiased, what they're actually responding to is their fairness and lack of hypocrisy. They obviously swing to the left and that colors their perspective, which it should; what passes for "objectivity" in today's news media is just vapidity and uselessness. But The Daily Show doesn't make s**t up, doesn't distort the truth, and doesn't excuse sympathetic causes for doing the same s**t they'd hammer right-wingers for.
laborerJan 15, 2012
Thats all good with me.
I cant go and be a liberal about how there is no pro-capitalism/pro-futurist leaning Daily Show. I just need to be a part of the culture that would create one and hope that it happens.
[note I didnt say conservative, because Im only conservative in the sense I like small efficient government and capitalism. Not evangelical or social conservative or anything like that.]
johnnysoftwareJan 16, 2012
Dude, for him to "deal it out" in equal ratios it would have to be done in equal ratios.
fontzepontzeJan 16, 2012
Maybe if righties wouldn't say so many moronic things he wouldn't have so much material on them.
analogkid1Jan 15, 2012
The "left" needs more people like her to create a balance against assh**es like Limbaugh and Hannity. The left needs it's own versions of Rush and Hannity. It's time for our side to throw down and yell out the truth at the top of our lungs. Keep up the good work, Mrs. Harrop.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nygenxerJan 15, 2012
A good idea but it wouldn't work for the same reasons why a conservative version of the Daily Show would never work. Reality-based reality is a double-edged sword. :)
laborerJan 15, 2012
This skit proves the viability of a conservative Daily Show. And it would be awesome.
fontzepontzeJan 16, 2012
Have you seen Red Eye on Fox? It's awful. Conservatives are generally easier to mock...
laborerJan 16, 2012
Ive never seen it.
But if its on Fox it means that they are probably mainstream [slightly to extremely social] conservatives.
Im not that kind of conservative.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
igorunchainedJan 16, 2012
It's called "Red Eye" and it's on Fox News all the time.
Quick everyone...name your 3 favorite conservative comedians....
OK...Ill spot you Dennis Miller....name your 2 favorite conservative comedians?
laborerJan 16, 2012
I admit, I dont watch much comedy. And I dont know of any conservative comedians I like [Dennis Miller is alright, Ive never really listened to him].
Just because the American liberal's intellectual opponent -- the mainstream conservatives -- are lesser in ability to make cutting edge memes does not mean liberals will not end up up-ended by an even more forward group themselves.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
igorunchainedJan 16, 2012
Conservatives just arent funny...there's really nothing wrong with that. White guys cant dance, Asians are good at math, Eskimos have chilly private parts....it is just the role they were given.
Wit is a mix of intelligence and humor....I really enjoy it, but I havent seen it make many people rich. Ever notice a humorous "will work for" sign on a day when your rich-ass boss never bothered to crack a smile? Liberals/Conservatives are just working from different base-level priorities and operating systems. Not saying one is better than the other, but it is worthwhile to observe/note.
nygenxerJan 16, 2012
Re: Dennis Miller - did anyone check under his bed for a pod?
nygenxerJan 16, 2012
It's because humor has to have a grain of truth in order to be funny, therefore, comedians make their living by pointing out bulls**t.
Conservatives make their living by promoting bulls**t so their humor just doesn't work.
nygenxerJan 16, 2012
@laborer:
You're wrong. In the entire history of television, name ONE successful conservative comedy show.
Exactly.
See, comedians point out bulls**t. Conservatives, on the other hand, promote bulls**t (by "making their own reality") and hence, are painfully unfunny.
(see "The Half Hour Comedy Hour" for more information.)
r0am3rJan 15, 2012
Maybe you should watch the video next time...
analogkid1Jan 15, 2012
Caught me.
miklkitJan 15, 2012
We already have them. Mr. Ed uses some of the same charts and graphs I use.
"Reality......What a concept!"------Robin Williams
http://assets.motherjones.com/politics/2011/inequality-p25_averagehouseholdincom.png
bwiiiJan 15, 2012
You deserve more of yourself, and you'll get exactly what you deserve!
analogkid1Jan 15, 2012
I love me! Bring it on!
spider_manJan 15, 2012
This is the one token call out on the left every 6 months or so so Stewart can claim not be be outrageously biased.
nygenxerJan 16, 2012
I'm glad you watch the show every night.
JustSayNoPartyJan 17, 2012
Fantastic video. Yes, hypocrisy (wherever it lives) should be called out.
"because the point of the article states 'jon stewart calls out hypocritical lefty journalists'. which reaffirms my point that jon stewart is soft on democrats."
The above comment is really part of the problem. People again are on their 'teams' trying to monitor and make sure someone isn't going over board in attacking their side. This 'sides' mentality creates massive problems and our 'lose-lose' results. Yes, I try not to watch the 'clearly biased' sources rooting for a team (FOX and MSNBC). No, I don't have my Antennas out listening for any slight against 'my team'. It remains amazing to me how every issue in America generally comes down to 'two sides' (the same sides) on every issue.
kantspelwriteJan 15, 2012
I don't like Stewart and don't watch him anymore. He is missing common decency and respect for people. He is like the smart ass school bully who made fun of everyone because he could get away with it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nygenxerJan 16, 2012
No, Jon Stewart is one of the nicest and most respectful hosts out there. Even when he interviews right wing scumbags, he is the epitome of politeness and warmth. You can say almost anything else about Mr. Stewart, but the man is indisputably a class act when it comes to how he treats his guests.
I wouldn't be able to sit across the desk from the likes Bill O'Reilly or Condie Rice and be civil. Not a f**king chance.
johnnysoftwareJan 16, 2012
I thought the smart assed school bully hit everyone weaker than him.
Where did you go to school, some special institute for the mentally gifted?
manicdvlnJan 15, 2012
Jon Stewart should just stfu once in a while, the guy had tea with General Musharraf avoiding hard questions and just joking around while Bin Laden was hiding comfortably in Pakistan.
I sometimes have the feeling Jon is no better than fox news, just the left side of it and he can always use the excuse of comedy to hide his own lack of credibility.
He makes fun of Ron Paul yet the guy has a track record of honesty and credibility that no politician can match while when Obama was running for president, there was little or no jokes about him, hell they even made jokes that they can no longer make jokes because Obama is such a clean guy.
Don't get me wrong, i watch him and Colbert (which i like more) but he is no beacon of truth.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
h8f8kesJan 15, 2012
He has also shown more respect to Ron Paul than any other media source out there. You may want to watch a few youtube videos of interviews. They are actually well done - moreso than the crap being fed to us from the propoganda outlets.
manicdvlnJan 15, 2012
Ignoring a candidate and making fun of him are two different things.
misterbadideaJan 15, 2012
Expecting Ron Paul to *not be made fun of* is exactly the expectation of an unfair zealot.
Also, the reason he was making fun of Obama's lack of skeletons in his closet is because he legitimately did not have any: he had almost no record, which is why the attacks on him from the right as a Marxist Kenyan radical seemed so ridiculous. I'm an Obama supporter, but the talk radio circuit's branding of Obama as an "empty suit" isn't entirely unfair.
spatula7Jan 15, 2012
Terrorism is probably a stretch, but the Tea Party opinions are not just another opinion that deserve equal consideration with other, more "well thought out" opinions. But when the TP rhetoric is given equal merit to other more "well thought out opinions" by the news media time and time again, I can see why a journalist might get very frustrated and write very negative and derogatory articles about the Tea Party...But John Oliver didn't appear to provide this kind of context at all....So, sorry John Oliver, your report is not fair and balanced.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bookantJan 15, 2012
Also the "economic terrorists" attacks they received at the time had nothing to do with their *opinions* and everything to do with their *tactics.* Pushing the entire US - and quite possibly global - economy to the brink of collapse because your fringe minority views can't get traction any other way certainly sounds a whole lot like terrorism to me.
laborerJan 15, 2012
Brink of collapse?
Lol... You are on Digg.
The system has a turning headache, far from its deathbed.
bookantJan 15, 2012
I'm refering to a specific sequence of events that you aparently don't remember.
Six months is such a long time!! /s
laborerJan 15, 2012
Right.
Because my historic frame of time doesnt go back to at least 1933.
Not a sage or anything, but six months is not what Im referring to either.
bookantJan 16, 2012
"but six months is not what Im referring to either."
Then your reply to me was pointless and irrelvant since I was.
misterbadideaJan 15, 2012
Yes, those Tea Partiers were strapping economic bombs to children and sending them into the economic marketplace to explode. Hell, while we're at it, they're economic rapists and economic child pornographers too. Sure.
Calm the f**k down.
igorunchainedJan 16, 2012
I am all for free speech...I think Godwin's Law is a crutch for those who cant articulate a simple argument....and I REALLY, REALLY, dont like what the Tea Party has become (almost since day one...)
That said....calling someone a metaphoric terrorist is the stupidest thing a person can do...and it nullifies their argument. At a time when "terrorism" can be stretched to mean ANYTHING....and an American citizen can be held indefinitely for being a terrorist...I would much rather hear someone shout "Fire" in a crowded theater than to see the LEFT excusing what the RIGHT did all through the Bush Administration.
Just like American Military pissing on corpses....we are supposed to be better than those we despise.
johnnysoftwareJan 16, 2012
You can take the redneck out of the red state but you can't take the red state out of the redneck, to cop a line from an old cigarette commercial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.#Murder
http://wn.com/Texas_Dragging_Murder
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/09/texas-set-to-execute-man-for-1998-dragging-murder-of-james-byrd-jr.html
Sad that most Americans paid no attention to this or forgot about it practically as soon as they heard about it.
Before Afghanistan. Before Iraq. The racists were doing it in Texas.
It happened in 1998 just before Bush's run for President, smack dab in the middle of Bush's term as governor -- in Texas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
Forgotten. Elected. Warred. Whoops.
nairebisJan 16, 2012
Except the economic terrorists are the ones who refuse to stop overspending and borrowing money. It is not "terrorism" to attempt to save the country from financial ruin.