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upnorthgirlFeb 8, 2012
Clint Eastwood is considered relatively conservative. Do you really think he would do an ad for Obama?
brucealmightyFeb 8, 2012
In fact he was a pretty vocal McCain supporter. Fox is just grasping at straws here. As usual.
isaac7719Feb 8, 2012
I think the fact that they're making this an issue in the first place speaks volumes about how big of a joke their "Fair and Balanced" slogan really is.
jaketyson85Feb 9, 2012
TV news = why I stick to Drudge and news.google. There's no such thing on TV as "objective" or "centrist" - only left or right.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johnnyg00Feb 9, 2012
... not sure if serious...
ultar6Feb 10, 2012
You eschew Fox for Drudge because you're looking for "objective" news?
Really?
DiggPiggletFeb 9, 2012
Portland Oregon-based ad agency that produced the spot—Wieden+Kennedy, some of whose key creative professionals privately supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election are suspects.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
upnorthgirlFeb 9, 2012
But diggpigg, someone like Clint Eastwood just doesn't need to take ANY job to make ends meet. He would have read the script and story boards prior to accepting the job. And after the product was finished, a man of his sway would have something to say too, if he didn't like it.
DiggPiggletFeb 9, 2012
Maybe he didn't realize what "half time" was then. I bet he would have not agreed to do it if someone had told him that it was about half time in Obama's presidency. Clint missed it and now he doesn't want to admit he fell for it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ultar6Feb 11, 2012
So you're suggesting that Clint Eastwood is an addled old man who was snookered into lending his voice to a commercial that suggests we're on the rebound. How un-American of you.
What a crock of s**t. Just admit that you want America to fail under Obama so you can usher in one of the four Repubs.
Funny thing is, each of the four remaining candidates represent different factions of the Republican party and its ideology. Even funnier, the various regions in the US support a different Republican based on the faction they represent.
Good luck in November. You will need it.
TheNoizeFeb 9, 2012
I don't think they believe in what they're saying. I think they just don't care anymore. I guess this is how the american conservative culture will end, collapsing on itself? Fox became the old grumpy man Rupert Murdoch always was.
captswuitsFeb 9, 2012
I mean really, have they not seen Gran Torino?
futfanaticoFeb 8, 2012
I'm starting to suspect that Fox News has a subliminal anti-Obama message in it.
concusionFeb 8, 2012
The Onion is more factual than Fox
craig1958Feb 8, 2012
But fox is sometimes funnier.
concusionFeb 8, 2012
if I ever turn on Fox, its on mute when Megyn Kelly is on.
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
I surf a lot of news and when I land on Fox and attempt to watch, I'm turned off within 5 minutes.
Their tone is hateful and dishonest toward the President.
Fox is not news. Period.
brsox2445Feb 9, 2012
Nothing wrong with that.
TheNoizeFeb 9, 2012
They are both in the business of making up absurd news, but Fox is the pro-slavery version of the onion.
h8f8kesFeb 8, 2012
Just like MSNBC has a pro-Obama message, which is why you shouldn't bother with either (or politicsusa)
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
sorry, thats not how it works. there's no magic balancing act going on. it's perfectly possible for Fox to be s**tty without any of the other networks being involved.
h8f8kesFeb 9, 2012
It is also possible for politicsusa to be perfectly sh!tty that has nothing to do with fox.
publiclurkerFeb 9, 2012
no, it's just that reality has a liberal bias.
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
You libs keep saying that.
But the news is all about how lib-style policies are bankrupting Europe. And the USA.
leonard2Feb 10, 2012
That phrase was coined by a comedian. What you don't seem to understand is the comedian was joking.
nolagrlFeb 9, 2012
Any message of hope drives them crazy.
They built their kingdom on fear and hate.
chordonblueFeb 10, 2012
...and you've built yours on redistribution (stealing), and race baiting.
ultar6Feb 10, 2012
You've built yours on fear and hate.
Redistribution is just a word. The reality is that a society that values and seeks to build wealth needs to pay for the things that facilitate wealth. Those who benefit the most should pay the most.
Not sure why you're going after the "race-baiting" meme. If the majority of conservatives go apes**t over a new president, question his citizenship despite overwhelming proof of it, insist that he follows a religion that they consider "un-American" even though they have no evidence AND despite the reality that that the U.S. was specifically crafted so that everyone is free to practice the religion they choose, then I wonder why you hate Barack Obama so much.
If you want to call that race baiting, go ahead.
chordonblueFeb 12, 2012
Your type confuses hate for an individual with hate for his policies. Not the same thing. I dislike the Left's policies in general. Since our president sides with the Left then, yes, I disagree with him. Nothing personal about it, although I know that fits into your side's narrative...
nolagrlFeb 11, 2012
LOL. Stopped beating your wife yet?
mrmapleFeb 9, 2012
It's not a subtle pro- Obama message.
It's a loud as hell anti-interference message, which hits the Republicans very hard.
What I really love about this is that the more the Republicans complain, the more conversation there is, and the more conversation there is the worse the Republicans look!
I've got my popcorn here, and can't wait to see the next backfiring Republican outrage. We seem to get three or four a week.
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
LOL. Yes we do. It seems like one a day.
ultar6Feb 11, 2012
It was a great commercial. American resurgence and optimism were the themes. Clint Eastwood with his grizzled, yet universally recognizable voice was the perfect spokesman.
How can a political party and its surrogates think that attacking a message of American optimism and exceptionalism is going to get them anywhere? It's clear they are assailing any positive news and positive attitudes with attacks meant to sow negativity and skepticism.
They can't stand seeing a Democratic president succeed and they'll go to any lengths to scuttle that success, the American people be damned.
nolagrlFeb 11, 2012
That didn't take long. The Prez just punked them on birth control.
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
"It's Halftime America."
It's time to reelect President Obama.
paula1849Feb 9, 2012
Clint Eastwood is a sensible conservative republican. He just isn't the frothing at the mouth crazy that passes for conservative republican these days.
Clint wants the country to be healthy and great, and isn't willing to go full retard to destroy Obama and please the Fox corporate masters.
It shouldn't be about which "side" wins democrat or republican. We should be able to have discourse over moving the country forward.
ultar6Feb 11, 2012
Dugg for Republicans going full retard. It's an apt description.
They want so badly to take control of the House, Senate, and White House that they will say and do anything to make it happen.
They will go so far as to sabotage economic recovery to do it. It won't work because MOST Americans are jonesing for economic recovery and a return to prosperity.
Think I'm wrong? This uproar over an American Icon voicing for a commercial is a prime example.
As Americans, we can find something to rally around or we can keep arguing over ideology while we demonize and undermine each other. I prefer rally.
Republicans have zero interest in anything but their own agenda. They are the party that demonizes and undermines. As far as they are concerned, they are irrevocably right on all things while those who disagree with them are irrevocably wrong. How does that contribute to the greater good?
crymtyphonFeb 9, 2012
Very Often The Eye Only sees Bits And pieces of the Message. And
DIGG shows us this quite well.
THIS does not mean, however, that people could ever be influenced by a
COMMENT hidden within a commercial, movie
OR other kind of medium! You would need the mind of
PUPPIES or sheep before it could work. Seriously; consider how the most
DIE-hard sheeple would have the wool pulled over their eyes if it worked!
TheNoizeFeb 9, 2012
Fox & Friends are so f**king stupid, it's scary. If I was president I'd try to make it illegal for them to raise families.
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
Fox and Friends are a good reason we need birth control in this country.
notachickenhawkFeb 8, 2012
Fox (Faux) and a lot of Republicans would have found absolutely any Chrysler add to be offensive, no matter what it said, because the mere fact that Chrysler still exists is a success for President Obama, and any commercial from Chrysler would remind viewers of that success.
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
"the mere fact that Chrysler still exists" is because money was confiscated from other Americans and given to the UAW.
The United Auto Workers were the chosen ones. The rest of us were punished.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
notachickenhawkFeb 9, 2012
So you mean that the US Treasury Department wrote the UAW a check? Cause I must have missed that part if it happened.
I suppose it would have been better, in your view, to allow Chrysler to dissolve, and to have everyone who worked for Chrysler laid off. And then to have had large layoffs at companies that built parts or provided other supplies for Chrysler. And then to have had Ford and GM's operations disrupted when large numbers of their parts suppliers could no longer afford to remain in business. And all the negative cascading effects that this would have had on the economy would have been better, right?
So yeah, its easy to sit there and second guess, when even well after the fact with all the benefit of hindsight you can't come up with a single better idea whose outcome would have been better.
And I suppose its also easier, in your world, to blame the workers and their unions for Chrysler's problems instead of Chrysler's management. I guess this is true for you despite the fact that its management's job to run the company successfully, and the fact that no one forced management to accept the union contract, and that no one but management accepted that contract and then proceeded to fail to run the company properly given their labor expenses. No, instead it must be the workers' fault because those greedy S.O.B.'s tried to get paid more money through negotiations and taking advantage of supply and demand, which is something that neither you, nor I, nor any other American would have done. I mean, who do those UAW bastards think they are? Workers in a free market?
kasha34Feb 10, 2012
Stop. There is a legal procedure for companies that can't pay their bills.
A bankruptcy reorganization. Some airlines ran for years during their reorganizations.
But then the UAW would have had to make concessions. So instead, somehow the Feds forced the bondholders to take pennies on the dollar and directed the assets of the company to the UAW. And the taxpayers bought the rest.
So the govt confiscated money from everyone else. And directed it to the chosen few...the UAW.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
notachickenhawkFeb 10, 2012
So why in your mind is it the workers who deserve to get screwed over, when in fact its the managers who mismanaged the company, and the bondholders who made unwise investments, who screwed up? The bankruptcy process should not be a tool to get out of bad contracts. I mean, its not like a worker or a union is ever going to be able to declare bankruptcy and have the bankruptcy judge award them more money from the company.
In any case, the company was going bankrupt, one way or the other. Saying the Feds "forced" bondholders to take pennies on the dollar conveniently ignores the fact that the bondholders were holding bonds in a bankrupt company and could have easily been worth absolutely nothing by the time all was said and done.
ultar6Feb 11, 2012
How were we punished? If Chrysler pays back the loans, how were we punished?
You are simply anti-union.
The Republican stance on unions is a paradox. Republicans claim they are for freedom, but the moment a group of FREE AMERICAN workers in a FREE SOCIETY band together to protect their own interests, safety, and well-being, they are branded as socialist thugs.
Since the Reagan days, America has been conditioned to bow at the feet of business. Conservatives would have us believe that business is the source of wealth in this country and that business does the masses a favor by employing them.
The reality is that the American population is the source of American wealth. It is their work that business owners tap to produce their products. It is their own work that produces the income that allows them to spend money and fuel an economy that is 70% consumer-driven. The 30% that isn't driven by consumers is still funded indirectly by consumers.
captswuitsFeb 8, 2012
Its Fox News, why are we even considering anything they say?
norman619Feb 8, 2012
That's not even a news show. It's a morning opinion show.
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
the whole network is opinion hidden behind a misleading catch phrase
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
I don't see Fox as an opinion. I see them as a Roger Ailes GOP Propaganda Network.
f**k their opinion. It's all propaganda.
brsox2445Feb 9, 2012
The funny thing about their "ratings" is that their 1-3M number is based off a sample of 25,000 or so people that have Nielsen boxes and that use the proportions to determine nationwide figures.
That means that about 166 out of 25,000 people are watching them and making it appear that they have higher ratings than they truly do.
laurahoustonFeb 8, 2012
play it at 33 speed and you can hear satan!
leonard2Feb 9, 2012
How do you play Politicrazyususa at 33 speed?
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
first, you need to go into a closet and mix a bucket of ammonia and bleach. then, after about 20 minutes you come out and check the internet.
aadyssFeb 9, 2012
PoliticusUSA is fair skinned and unbalanced.
h8f8kesFeb 9, 2012
Is that how they write this crap? I always wondered. Next week on politicsusa we discuss a washed up sarah palin.
leonard2Feb 9, 2012
I see...judging from your comment it looks like you must of tested this method out personally before you commented.
TheNoizeFeb 9, 2012
Singing "I've got you under my skin"
bluenose2Feb 8, 2012
It would take someone working for Rupert Murdoch to come up with subliminal messges. With his employees involved in phone tapping,it would not surprise me if Fox tried this themselves.
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
Fox News has Roger Ailes calling the shots. Not Rupert Murdoch. Rupert allows Roger to pretty much run the right wing propaganda machine.
mjm6783Feb 9, 2012
How did I know this was going to be a "Fox and Friends" segment before clicking through to the video. Seriously, if you support Fox News, you need to demand that F&F be taken off the air. Those three tools make a majority of the false, misleading, or just plain idiotic comments that come out of Fox. And the sheeple love it, making it even more dangerous.
It's like the Skip Bayless/Stephen Smith debates on ESPN. I've heard better arguments from drunks at a local pub who are falling off their barstools.
JollyMacFeb 9, 2012
And I claim that Fox News has in your face bulls**t.
blacklilyninjaFeb 9, 2012
fox news... for idiots ..made by idiots directed by idiots with a s**t ton of money.
RustinHawverFeb 8, 2012
Wrong play on Fox. This was a very heart warming commercial for Chrysler. I don't care if the producers have ties to Obama. Fox needs to chill out for a change. Not everything has to be politically motivated.
h8f8kesFeb 9, 2012
Agreed.
glbernsFeb 9, 2012
The message I hear from them: you can't say anything good about America without complementing the Democrats.
4heavenssakeFeb 8, 2012
As usual Faux "News" is making things up.
aadyssFeb 9, 2012
Ah, the people's paranoia with Fox News.
What is this "American Spirit" mentioned by the author, Ms Jones? Does she mean the spirit that took a once great corporation and ran it into the ground. Is this the spirit that ran Chrysler into the ground in the 70s, took a bailout and ran it into the ground again? Is it the spirit that has promotes the American people holding their hand out for a stipend from the government. Oh, she is defining the "American Spirit" that has grown like a wildfire since "The Great Society". The Democratic Party's great American Spirit. Ya, no thanks.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
which part of them being profitable again after less than 3 years due to being bailed out, is the part that makes you think it was run into the ground again?
damn that reality, always getting in the way of republican claims and plans!
aadyssFeb 9, 2012
The run into the ground again was about Chrysler. 2x failure and now at least 30% owned by a foreign company. I hope you read Kant better than Digg. Oh, you didn't realize that Chrysler received a government bailout in 1979 under Jimmie Carter. The loans to Chrysler carried an interest rate of about 10%, which was below market (BELOW MARKET, those were heady days indeed. Some home mortgages were 14%) at that time and the U.S. government received warrants for 14.4 million shares of Chrysler stock. Lee Iacocca was brought in as CEO of Chrysler to manage the rebuilding.
As far as GM , I suppose it is easier to look better if you tell bond holders to shove it and get in line behind the unions. That's the way it has always been done in bankruptcy, is it not?
Have they (GM) paid back the money the government 'loaned' them.
Is the Chevy Volt the new Chrysler K-CAR? Who is the GM Lee Iacocca?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
Plus, GM got a one-of-a-kind $45 billion tax break. Kind of easy to pretend you're profitable when you don't have to pay taxes that big.
jimborickFeb 8, 2012
Why does FOX News hate America???
shivabeachFeb 8, 2012
That was a totally set up skit by Fox, and totally Rovian by Rove. The white house was implicated? Like President Cheney, Rove presented no indication of collusion.
And of Course, Doocy was on the scene, so you know its a lie
mobislinkFeb 9, 2012
You have to be an idiot to watch Fox New for information.
mystery_machineFeb 9, 2012
Paranoia is a sad, sad thing to witness.
kelleyrainerFeb 8, 2012
Once again fox noise wants you to believe their imagination; no fix news for me. Lmfao
hiropendragonFeb 9, 2012
I hear that Fox News has totally-not-subliminal anti-Obama messages.
favuquadFeb 9, 2012
Its not that he is pro-Obama its that he is pro-America and as you all know well that doesn't bode down well with the GOP.
martin92003Feb 9, 2012
Idiots.
killersquirelFeb 8, 2012
They're all out to get you!
blindoggbooksFeb 9, 2012
Just goes to show how well FOX checks their facts...
letsgetreal50Feb 10, 2012
So they can manipulate the facts into propaganda. Add a lie, twist then repeat often. Eventually we will get more dummies to believe it.
auditortuxFeb 8, 2012
Probably the closest I can think of is the reference to "Halftime" - if Obama were reelected, we would be very close to halftime. And since they talk about a comeback, it would mean ignore what happened during his first term and watch him mount a big comeback. But that's freakin' stretching it.
apokalyps2547Feb 9, 2012
oooooeeeeeeeoooooo
jsnchmpnFeb 9, 2012
Eat more popcorn.
sturgisjimFeb 9, 2012
This is stupid.
Worse, is the comment in the article that a united America scares repubblicans. Dumb.
stevanoskiFeb 9, 2012
Exactly
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
It's true. Dumb, yes, but true nevertheless.
urdumania1Feb 9, 2012
play it at 33 speed and you can hear satan!
skyislandFeb 9, 2012
Barack didn't abandon our nation's manufacturing capacity but kept Detroit car companies going. That capacity will help our nation recover and gives hope to chances retooling to take on the likes of global warming is at least possible.. But not if we don't turn World focus.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
skyislandFeb 9, 2012
While talking half time it's time to think of the Earth.. This isn't about football; it's not about the future of the United States and our true grit ability to get back in a fight for pride.. Half time, that little note about World Peace flashed on the field at end of half time show 2012 - it's a pipe dream unless the people of the world pause, the US goes into overdrive to stop global warming which will certainly be near unstoppable soon, like this year or next if it hasn't already crossed some lines that can't be reversed by now. To show temperature rise acceleration these last years in perspective NASA produced a depiction of 130yrs from 1880 till now condensed into a 30 second movie.http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html
To get the subliminal message watch the years spin by as the pretty colors representing the temperature scale tell the story.. But this is half time because now we people on Earth need to reverse this trend in a big way and in a big hurry and there is no place for play things like giant pick up truck toys and tough talk by movie stars if the Earth is to survive..
It may be my imagination but I hope Clint Eastwood agrees. It's half time and coaching needs a winning game - If Earth and that little place called the United States is to survive.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bostic30Feb 9, 2012
No it wasn't!
norman619Feb 8, 2012
Oh please where do they claim this? The woman says it made her think of "subliminal messages." They are not claiming it has any. Top notch reporting. Man...politicususa is no better than politico.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
asfinktersezwutFeb 9, 2012
It's freakin amazing; a left-wing "news" site runs a story on a right-wing "news" station calling them out for bias... it gets posted on a news aggregator where righties and lefties call out each other - and their associated propaganda machines for for bias all while everyone insists they are the only ones who are honest and truthful and unbiased and the others are stupid and hate America.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
which woman? the one that fox decided to include in their article for a specific reason?
h8f8kesFeb 8, 2012
How the Hell does a blog nobody outside of Digg reads (that is just as biased as the organization they are writing about) get 44 Diggs in four hours and 590 views?
Are people really so partisan to follow this tripe or is the mere mention of faux news like a dog whistle that makes progressives foam at the mouth and start barking?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dividebyoFeb 8, 2012
Hmmm, should we go take a look at the effects of a right wing article, usually posted on a Sunday, typically by a certain group of people? Suddenly, it's like all these right wing people come out of nowhere... almost like they are foaming at the mouth and barking.
My particular favorite part of your post is calling people partisan for reading supposed tripe, then saying it must be that progressives foam at the mouth and start barking over certain things. If that wasn't a show of your own partisanship, I don't know what is. So, in answer, apparently people can be "so partisan" including yourself.... now stop barking, and wipe your face.
chordonblueFeb 10, 2012
No, we're just making our voices heard - clearly something you think only belongs to the Left. Sorry.
You are right though, Progressives don't have to yell and scream because they all but own the media establishment (although you'll probably mention Fox News, I could name a LOT more than that on your side!)
And if the Right people post on the weekends, I think it's very telling. It would be US who actually have to work during the week whilst you toke up, kick back, and wonder when the next handout is coming from us working folk.
Keep smokin' my friend. Real change is coming...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
everyone look out, the internet police are here!
delphium226Feb 9, 2012
It's the Digg Parrots! Get your crackers ready cos Polly wants to Party!
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
Yeah, it's like a dog whistle. At the mention, I foam at the mouth and start attacking Fox and their propaganda machine.
I hate Fox.
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
Foam at the mouth?
letsgetreal50Feb 9, 2012
figure of speech.
chordonblueFeb 10, 2012
No, not really. I've seen Lefties foam before. See: Alec Baldwin or any Left leaning person forced to listen to Ann Coulter. ;)
alnorteFeb 16, 2012
It's funny that polit-a-s**t is concerned with objectivity.
alnorteFeb 16, 2012
It's funny that polit-a-s**t is concerned with objectivity.
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
It'[s not actually "subliminal." But the unspoken message was that the auto companies were saved and that was a good thing.
If you accept those two false premises, then the result is, of course, pro-Obama.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cyberdactylFeb 9, 2012
Far and away politicus biggest misunderstanding of FOX News is it somehow has the same right wing agenda across all the shows and presentations, AND is structured to do so.
Politic has no understanding how huge and varied the network is.
And I'm sure politicus sees all of the several left-leaning talking heads there merely as token stooges.
And guaranteed politicus will rationalize that it's just spin and lies how several of the talking heads at FOX have read Eastwood's statement of remaining neutral, and agreed.
Politicus has a hyper-tight view of the political landscape and it clearly shows in blog post after blog post.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
countess666Feb 9, 2012
"Politic has no understanding how huge and varied the network is."
neither does ~90% of fox news's viewer base.
and I'm not even sure its true for politicusa
karmashockFeb 10, 2012
it's not subliminal... it's obvious.
Are we in a time warp? When this stupid ad came out this very "source" started crowing about how Eastwood slammed the republicans. Now fox points that out and you turn around and start saying it's a spooky subliminal message?
Make sense.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kasha34Feb 11, 2012
Of course, the subtext is obvious.
leonard2Feb 9, 2012
The people who believe the crap that comes from Politicrazyususa are really gullible. They are the same people who buy and read tabloids at the supermarket.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Feb 9, 2012
your sad little deflections get weaker and weaker the more you copy/paste them.
no one is interested or surprised that a right wing shill disagrees with anything that isnt right leaning. why do you bother to keep telling us? we get it already. if it's not right wing, it's horrible. yes yes, you;ve mentioned that. we get it already
apokalyps2547Feb 9, 2012
This from a guy who submits from Creationist sites?
kasha34Feb 9, 2012
You dummies.
The $25 million Chrysler spent on the ad was money they owe us. Instead of paying us back so we could fix bridges, etc they used the money to give Obama a hand job.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rgb86Feb 11, 2012
They have to pay it back one way or the other. This way, it'll take them *slightly* longer to pay it all back, and since their payments also include interest, it would seem that means they'll end up paying back *slightly* more than they otherwise would have.
Take that and build a bridge with it, wanker.
kasha34Feb 11, 2012
"They have to pay it back one way or the other."
No, what's important is that Obama can *claim* they've paid it back.
And that he can pretend GM is suddenly profitable.
Did you know GM already got a unique tax break worth up to $45 billion?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704462704575590642149103202.html
They're paying us back with our own money. With money they should have used to pay taxes they owe.
RE: "wankers"
When I do it I need both hands -- and then some.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.