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apokalyps2547Feb 16, 2012
If you think Fox News is too left-wing, you're pretty far out there.
valourFeb 16, 2012
There's a difference between their news reporting, and their commentary programming. Fox lost interest in news programming during the Beck era, and now it's getting serious about straight news again. The commentary is always going to be strongly opinionated, and frankly that doesn't matter whether it's left- or right-wing, so long as it is not mistaken for actual reporting.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
drunkclamFeb 16, 2012
Wrong, Fox news routinely present "commentary" as news on a regular and consistant basis.
equinox2o12Feb 16, 2012
They HAD news programming? If they are all commentary they need to take the NEWS off the name.
BuriedBodyFeb 16, 2012
To be fair, if you look at their programming schedule there's about 8 hours/day of straight news. It's mainly in the middle of the day when everyone's at work, but they do have it.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
"To be fair..."
That's not allowed here. Fall into line!
BuriedBodyFeb 16, 2012
I would but then you'd have to call me a dirty rotten socialist. I'd rather just be me.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
True enough, but in that case you'd deserve it.
BuriedBodyFeb 16, 2012
If you say so.
skribbleFeb 16, 2012
No. Fox uses it's "news" programming to present a certain number of leading "stories" just to set up the commentary and provide "news" sources to back it. One feeds the other.
cowicideFeb 17, 2012
FOX "News"
savetheseaFeb 16, 2012
Fox will report what a "commenter" said on his show the next day as news - then the commenter can comment again on the the validated news story
DiggPiggletFeb 16, 2012
Who's too left-wing for you?
ddarko789Feb 16, 2012
FON
ddarko789Feb 16, 2012
Oh, my apologies., alternet too.
ddarko789Feb 16, 2012
A thousand pardons all, who knew I'd find another: Politicususa
Before you say "Wait a minute jack-ass. Those sites don't claim to be legitimate news sources". Recognize that idiots on either side of the spectrum will treat such propagandic sources as news, completely eliminating the need to publicly announce that. Those sites know exactly what their doing, as does Fox: spewing volatile propaganda while refusing to concede anything, including facts, to the other side.
Bender Rodriguez 2012 "I may not be on the ballot, but f**k it; I can bend everyone to my will."Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ddarko789Feb 17, 2012
A whole bunch of god damned hypocrites. Ignorance is not bliss, especially conscious ignorance.
miklkitFeb 16, 2012
Hmmm. The Dalai Lama?
apokalyps2547Feb 16, 2012
Much of MSNBC's opinion programming is a bit too left-wing echo-chamber for me. CNN is actually pretty moderate, but it keeps (unreasonably) getting lumped together with MSNBC.
DiggPiggletFeb 16, 2012
I agree. Fox is getting too comfortable with the RNC as the election is getting closer but they still have a large number of Democrats and liberals as guest. CNN seems to be drifting towards the center from the left.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
smurfzFeb 16, 2012
I fapped and blew a load into your ear once.
DiggPiggletFeb 16, 2012
I'm not your mother.
Ouzel7Feb 16, 2012
Nor are you in his dreams about blowing a load into his mother's ear.
rogue100Feb 16, 2012
"Lately, Fox has increasingly promoted its straight-news talent in the press and conducted some of the toughest interviews and debates of the Republican primary season."
This constitutes a shift to the left? Interesting!
drmangrumFeb 16, 2012
In novenator's eyes, anything that does actively give republicans a sloppy blowjob is "moving to left".
novenatorFeb 16, 2012Submitter
Fox Propaganda parrots like yourself have no idea how dangerously skewed the American political establishment is to the fascist right. The Democratic Party is on par with conservative parties in every other developed nation, and the Republican Party is literally more conservative than the openly-fascist parties.
Get some perspective. Open your mind.
randomgorillaFeb 17, 2012
People like Roger Ailes and his boss are fairly responsible for this; they follow in the yellow journalistic tradition of that jackoff William Randolph Hearst. But then you got people who exaggerate the other s**t when they don't need to, like Micheal Moore. I feel like the fringe is poisoning the center most days.
rockyoumonkeysFeb 16, 2012
So Fox News is shifting to the left? And this is after shifting so far to the right that they became almost extremist?
What's the problem?
jpurdyFeb 16, 2012
Almost?
rockyoumonkeysFeb 16, 2012
I was being diplomatic. Hey, I'm a peace-loving socialist, sue me!
miklkitFeb 16, 2012
That was my first thought.
kellyFeb 16, 2012
Compared to the lib networks... yes. Almost.
starmanjonesFeb 16, 2012
left/right doesn't apply to a farce. they are like colbert except they aren't trying to be funny. if they loose the right then they may be ask to leave the country.
austinjameshereFeb 16, 2012
I sometimes think this right left debate about media is silly. I just want them to report the news, cut the commentary, and focus on reporting the facts accurately. Fox is easily the worst offender. But CNN and MSNBC lack journalistic integrity too.
Ouzel7Feb 16, 2012
Kudos for striking a balance.
austinjameshereFeb 16, 2012
Striking a balance isn't the goal. News and facts should be reported from a no-perspective viewpoint. If that's not possible, we should at least try to get as close to that as possible. Showing both sides of a story is exactly what is wrong with journalism today. That's why Fox viewers are generally the least informed Americans - They get served two altered version of reality and get to choose - neither are accurate.
Ouzel7Feb 16, 2012
I retract my statement.
grinningcatFeb 17, 2012
Sometimes the so-called "balance" is between reality and sophisticated, deceptive, ideologically driven denial of reality. They are NOT two equally valid "sides of the story".
Examples:
The fact of biological evolution (including humans developing from nonhuman ancestors) vs. (usually religiously-motivated) denial, including explicit creationism as well as "intelligent design".
The fact of human-caused global climate destabilization (or climate change, or "global warming") and its threats to human survival, vs. denial, often motivated by the "religious" belief that absolute free-market capitalism cures all ills, or by the fossil fuel industry desperate to protect its trillions in profits.
The fact of a spectrum of normal and natural sexual orientations and gender identities in people, vs. denial (often religiously motivated), persisting in two straight-and-narrow boxes representing how women/girls and men/boys "should" be, behave, live, and love.
ikorkyiFeb 16, 2012
watch bbc or the pbs nightly business report
austinjameshereFeb 16, 2012
CBC is generally what I watch. NPR is good too. The NYT is probably the best private news source. I generally find that public news sources are the best defenders of old fashioned "stick to reporting the facts" journalism.
bdbrFeb 16, 2012
In many cases the "facts" are up to interpretation, particularly when it comes to motivations behind actions and how it will impact the future. About all a news organization can do is try to represent the various opinions equally. Fox News version of equality is to bring in weak liberal commentators and give them little time. CNN tries to breeze through complex topics in three minutes so they can move on entertainment news and sports.
PBS Newshour seems to do a good job. The world is a complex place; it can't realistically be covered in 15 minutes.
kcast985Feb 16, 2012
thank you for bringing up MSNBC and CNN into the discussion they are BS networks as well
bookantFeb 16, 2012
MSNBC and CNN are deeply flawed s**tty news networks; FOX is a deliberate propaganda operation.
novenatorFeb 16, 2012Submitter
It is important to note 2 things however. First, MSNBC is not as far to the left as Fox is to the right, not by a long shot. CNN has turned center-right since they hired that Fox News guy as their director.
Also, the key is actually fairness and ACCURACY in reporting more than political slant, and Fox is in a whole nother league of idiot here.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
As if your opinion on the matter is any kind of reality-based yardstick.
austinjameshereFeb 16, 2012
I think of Fox News as the tabloid that reports on the half alien half monkey baby (because they have about as much accuracy as such a tabloid). I think of CNN as the People or Star Magazine because in recent years they've just become stupid and irrelevant. And I think of MSNBC as sort of a USA Today, it's based in reality (which Fox isn't), but it falls short of public broadcasting. This country really does need a strong public network that can compete with ABC, NBC, and CBS for prime time news and entertainment. PBS does a good job of reporting the news, but it's under constant conservative attempts to undermine it. I suspect because reality doesn't favour the conservative agenda and a public broadcasting network that is fully funded would lead to a better informed, less partisan electorate... Like you pointed out, accuracy is important and cable news (especially Fox) doesn't care if the information they comment on is accurate. I think news networks that fail as much as Fox in the accuracy department should lose their broadcasting license - plain and simple.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Glad you're able to assess things so objectively.
Ouzel7Feb 16, 2012
"MSNBC is not as far to the left as Fox is to the right"
You s**ttin' me Sherlock? They hired an open socialist to opine.
novenatorFeb 16, 2012Submitter
Don't forget quirky, "race mixing is communism"! http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2009/10/800px-Little_Rock_integration_protest.jpg
Ouzel7Feb 17, 2012
What does your dumbass picture of a bunch of Democrats have to do with what I said?
That certainly was a quirky ad hoc thing to do, though.
You seem to have gotten a lot of thumbs up in a short period of time.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
novenatorFeb 17, 2012Submitter
I'll answer your question if you admit you're quirkopatra (and I promise I won't report you, I just want to hear you admit it).
Ouzel7Feb 17, 2012
You are obsessed with this former banned poster. You and some others here.
It's almost impossible to read here and NOT see someone saying some poster is someone else.
It's an epic level of absurdity.
concusionFeb 18, 2012
Well you seem like someones alt, no one could really be this stupid can they?
stevanoskiFeb 19, 2012
LOL, they are!
imkookooFeb 16, 2012
What does that matter? If Fox hired an open socialist, Fox would still be very much on the right.
ageofmasteryFeb 16, 2012
MSNBC's morning show is also hosted by a hard right, former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough.
How many shows on Fox are hosted by liberals?
Ouzel7Feb 17, 2012
Hard right? ROFL....
stevanoskiFeb 19, 2012
I seldom give a ROFL but that comment deserves one.
theghoulFeb 16, 2012
Something is going on at Fox news. They've took it down a notch. I was taken aback by Bill O defending Ellen.
They're up to something.
savetheseaFeb 16, 2012
I actually believe that if Bill O was given free reign, he would be much more moderate. I think most of his far-right view points are dictated by the network. Every once in a while the moderate emerges with very sensible statements and arguments. This tends to upset some conservative guests and pundits and probably senior management.
JustSayNoPartyFeb 16, 2012
Yes, 'Republican' it up a bit more, Bill. Damn. i think your right and this illustrates why it's not wise to form your beliefs from such sources.
particleman420Feb 16, 2012
they're realizing that the s**t they've been shoveling for the past few years isnt helping any of their causes anymore and now it's getting close to the election and want to pretend that they arent the extremists that they've been since their inception.
dont worry, it's just an act.
treehugger87Feb 16, 2012
Just like they do with Bush now, American "Conservatives" are going to claim that Fox news was never one of theirs and was way too liberal for them after Murdoch and his empire go down for illegal wiretapping in Britain.
ddarko789Feb 16, 2012
"illegal wiretapping in Britain"
What? Do I live under a rock? Source?
No, I'm not being an ass: just legitimately curious.
Yes, I am incredibly lazy.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
treehugger87Feb 16, 2012
Otherwise known as the "Phone Hacking" scandal.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2012/feb/15/jamesmurdoch-newsinternational?newsfeed=true
ddarko789Feb 16, 2012
Thanks.
cme884Feb 17, 2012
When your most recent colleagues on air have been Sean Hannity and Glen Beck, you're going to look moderate. O'Reilly really hasn't changed; he's still conservative. But the rest of the GOP has moved so far to the fringes that he looks moderate by comparison.
scabnabbitFeb 17, 2012
From what I've seen, he tends to be very respectful of entertainers. (At least the interviews I saw.)
He had Joan Jett on (who is not always well spoken), and he gave her the time she needed.
His segment with Mansion was quite funny. He kept level despite a shocked/disgusted look on his face through parts of it. (In fact last I checked, it was on youtube.)
bookantFeb 16, 2012
. . . and the fact that they can still be described in terms of "right" or "left" continues to mean that - either way - they're still not a news organization.
wmelnickFeb 17, 2012
That being the case you write off most new organizations in the US. You can apply "Left" to: MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NY Times and the Washington Post.
anomaly100Feb 16, 2012
We wouldn't want them.
salbatrossFeb 16, 2012
Well it'd be hard for them to move any other direction.
cosmicsurferFeb 16, 2012
When they get left of extremist neo-con RWNJ, let me know - until then, I will continue to keep them off my list of viewing choices unless I want a good laugh at the absurdity and ignorance of humanity
particleman420Feb 16, 2012
and if you want to laugh at absurdity you've already got the digg comment sections
GentlemanGhost542Feb 16, 2012
Maybe they've become to far right. The people need to stop pretending they are center right when they clearly are not. Just because one becomes more conservative does't mean you can revision where center begins. As well paint those who are less conservative then you as moderate when they are not
rockyoumonkeysFeb 16, 2012
There's no "maybe" about it. They were too far right. Many of the people they have on the network are outright lunatics. I think they're starting to realize that people aren't falling for their "fair and balanced" crap anymore.
miklkitFeb 16, 2012
Maybe? Obama is center/right. Faux noise is right/righter.
wmelnickFeb 17, 2012
Obama center/right? Obama is Extreme left/Socialist.
diggit83Feb 17, 2012
WTF are you talking about, besides the consume protection bureau, all of the major policies hes signed have been republican positions in the last decade.....
Yes, I agree hes not center/right, at least no ideologically, but in policy he certainly has been.
Stop watching Fox news....seriously, its bad for youComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
treehugger87Feb 16, 2012
The lies aren't big enough lately, eh? Crazy bastards.
equinox2o12Feb 16, 2012
I think they are trying to distance themselves from the crazy of Murdoch's Yellow Journalism Empire. If something went wrong and Murdoch had to cut Fox loose, it has to have something to stand on.
treehugger87Feb 16, 2012
Ah, I can see it now. Just like "conservatives" now claim that Bush was never one of theirs they'll claim that Murdoch was a liberal and that Fox was part of the vast liberal media empire.
wmelnickFeb 17, 2012
Conservatives always claimed Bush was not one of theirs. From the 2000 primaries, true Conservatives claimed that "Compassionate Conservative = Liberal".Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rcook18Feb 17, 2012
Yes, all two of them.
treehugger87Feb 17, 2012
That is such a lie. It was always conservative Republicans who shored up his approval ratings
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113083/conservative-republicans-still-widely-support-bush.aspx
Even when Bush hit his all-time low approval rating of 22%, he had an 82% approval rating among conservative Republicans
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2009/01/bush_approval_a_last_look.html
xpsiterFeb 16, 2012
It's election season, so the whole GOP machine is trying to pull the bait and switch (again). Congress negotiators have been said to reach a deal without much of any fanfare. That's very interesting seeing that they have completely road-blocked most everything the POTUS wanted to get done.
bdbrFeb 16, 2012
Those poor conservatives...'victims' yet again. /s
stubearFeb 16, 2012
They're grumbling because they have gone so far to the right that they are doing a full orbit of reality and headed back to the right by way of the left.
drcrankFeb 16, 2012
Maybe it's just that the American Right has become so flippin' retarded that not even Fox News can keep up with their total disregard for intelligence, logic, or even reality.
spc4Feb 16, 2012
I like watching Neil Cavuto, and Shepard Smith seems to report and stay neutral.
novenatorFeb 17, 2012Submitter
I actually think Shep is pretty good too. He's the type of conservative that is at least honest and not afraid to call people on their bulls**t. The exception that proves the rule I suppose.
concusionFeb 18, 2012
Shep seems to be the only adult in the room. Neil Cavuto is a joke.
laurahoustonFeb 16, 2012
a happy to eat you, happy fox face
jarysmFeb 16, 2012
Ahhhh, I haven't laughed this hard all week.
Let me tell you...it's not FOX news that's shifting, relativity in perspective works both ways.
anglosaxongalFeb 19, 2012
:O!!
anglosaxongalFeb 19, 2012
:O!!
marryokesFeb 16, 2012
Good, if they get any more right wing, they are going to swing around the bar =P
marcglezFeb 17, 2012
Every extreme is dangerous. Liberals, Nazis, they are all dangerous.
But Fox News has a legendary history ultra-right news story telling. It is not just lack of due diligence or unfortunate mistakes but a complete lack of integrity.
So occasionally, I would find my self turning away from Fox News when ever they where reporting something about politics just to hear the moderate side of the story.
Little by little I realized that Fox disturbance of the news, all news was so severe as if they where living in their own little planet. with their on version of News twisting many times I found comic.
Today, for comic news I watch Comedy Central and I don't watch Fox News at all.
FrankLuskaFeb 20, 2012
What, there moving to be Liberals? You know Digg is stacked when almost every comment is from a Liberal.
CrescentSkies_2Feb 17, 2012
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA heh heh heh -cough wheeze-
nope they're definitely still right winged biased idiots. Just like CNN is still left winged biased idiots. BBC though is still safe!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
stevanoskiFeb 19, 2012
LOL, like your comment!
jefftsFeb 16, 2012
Or maybe the real Conservatives are just realizing that Fox News's push of Neoconservative propaganda is really no different from the Progressive propaganda pushed by the other half of the cabal. More spending. More war. More government. Less liberty.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
grannysrightFeb 16, 2012
Moving left? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
concusionFeb 18, 2012
why is this dug down I said the same thing :)
grannysrightFeb 18, 2012
Because I'm from the right. These folks digg you down if you don't agree with them, no matter what you say.
concusionFeb 18, 2012
Hopefully just to the left of Afghanistan.
lunarparcelFeb 17, 2012
I'm always intrigued when they say, "Fox news fills a void...." regarding right-wing opinion in media.
Really?
Have these people not listened to an AM radio?
No matter how much filling they do, it still remains a void.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
laurahoustonFeb 16, 2012
grumbling conservatives....
I predict a sacrifice
davidnivenFeb 16, 2012
I don't mind balance. I want to see all sides of an issue in a manner as objective as possible.
Now, Fox News seems to be appealing to more and more people by including left-leaning folks in their news analysis segments. OK. It's not that people like me have a problem with including the liberal spectrum during a news analysis show. It's just that we can get that liberal spectrum, and an overdose of it, on any of the other news shows.
Well, Fox News must be doing something right. Their ratings are stellar and getting better. Maybe they are indeed appealing to more moderates and even some liberals. This is a good thing.
If there is one thing to be sure of it's that one-sided news reporting results in low ratings. Just look at MSNBC, CNN, and the other leftist news outlets.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Agreed, I welcome the addition of more Progressives. Conservatives generally believe that spirited debate is a good thing, while Progressives (Media Matters et al) would prefer to muzzle people with opposing viewpoints.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
countess666Feb 16, 2012
"Conservatives generally believe that spirited debate is a good thing, while Progressives (Media Matters et al) would prefer to muzzle people with opposing viewpoints."
and here i was thinking the exact same thing... but with conservatives and progressives reserved of course.
disagree with a progressive and they'll try to explained why they think you are wrong.
disagree with a conservative, and you're a dirty liberal (said in sneering voice).
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
And yet the additions of even more Progressives to the Fox lineup kinda flies in the face of what you're contending, as do outfits like I mentioned...Media Matters seemingly exists solely to try and discredit and marginalize Fox News. I don't see them or many other Progressive outfits welcoming much in the way of dissenting viewpoints.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
countess666Feb 16, 2012
you name one, and then extend that to include all progressive outfits?
"even more"
that would imply they had some before.... which is false. they've had moderate centrists, at most.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Geraldo Rivera, Bob Beckel, Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, Leslie Marshall, Kirsten Powers among others all describe themselves as Progressive and take almost exclusively Progressive positions on issues.
They are regularly demonized by others on the left for even BEING ON the network. That's not what I'd call welcoming debate.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
equinox2o12Feb 16, 2012
Media Matters doesn't call itself "Fair & Balanced". it makes no claim than what it is. FOX has a reputation of cutting your mike off if a progressive starts to make them look like fools.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
"it makes no claim <other> than what it is.
Really? It claims to be a nonpartisan media watchdog, which is why it's tax exempt. Now we know that it feeds MSNBC talking points and has regular meetings with the White House. They are clearly a Progressive advocacy group.
"FOX has a reputation of cutting your mike off if a progressive starts to make them look like fools."
Examples? The only time I've ever seen someone's mike cut off is when THEY wouldn't allow anyone else to speak and THEY acted like fools.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
countess666Feb 16, 2012
powers is a conservative democrat.
so centrist, not liberal.
and even then they threatened to cut off her mic because the other punted didn't agree with what she said
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/megyn-kelly-threatens-cut-kirsten-power
leslie marshell seems liberal, but again fox news other pundits tell her to "shut up"
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/04/09/leslie_marshall_confronts_neil_cavuto_about_fox_news_role_in_the_tea_party_protests.php
Juan Williams isn't a liberal at all, fox just hires him as one.
Alan Colmes, not much of a liberal. again a excuse-liberal put up as a sacrificial lamb.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1158
Bob Beckel seems moderately liberal... and he's put up there with 4 conservative pundits, on a show produced by conservative producers...
atomheartmotherFeb 17, 2012
Let's review. equinox wrote: "FOX has a reputation of cutting your mike off if a progressive starts to make them look like fools."
Your "evidence" to support that is a catfight where Kellly threatens to cut Powers' mike off (but doesn't). Then you go on to say that Powers really isn't a liberal at all. So even if she DID get her mike cut off (and she didn't), it renders the original contention invalid anyway, if you believe Powers isn't a lib.
That sir, is a fail of epic proportions.
Secondly, your opinions as to who's Progressive and who's not is simply your opinion; one which I daresay isn't shared by many people of either side, liberal or conservative.
You might want to take a step back and assess whether or not your views on these things are even remotely connected to the reality which most people reside in.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
countess666Feb 17, 2012
"You might want to take a step back and assess whether or not your views on these things are even remotely connected to the reality which most people reside in."
right back at you.
"Your "evidence" to support that"
no, that was just A example.
"So even if she DID get her mike cut off (and she didn't),"
how is that relevant, they threatened to do it. that's not something you just say 'because'. it actually wanted too. it speaks volumes about their regard for opinions other then theirs.
"it renders the original contention invalid anyway, if you believe Powers isn't a lib. "
she's a left leaning centrist and fox can't even stomach her opinion!
how does that invalidate my claim in any way?
the epic fail here is your ours.
"Secondly, your opinions as to who's Progressive and who's not is simply your opinion; one which I daresay isn't shared by many people of either side, liberal or conservative. "
i did my research, fox calling them a liberal doesn't make them so.
so i daresay that what you daresay is false.
atomheartmotherFeb 17, 2012
"how is that relevant, they threatened to do it."
Oh I don't know...how about because a threat and an action are two different things? And how about because the claim was that it was a common practice, and you came up with one example of where id didn't occur?
"how does that invalidate my claim in any way? the epic fail here is your ours."
Well you're using the Powers incident as proof that Fox cuts off the mikes of progressives, and in the next breath you're claiming she's not a progressive. Please explain how you reconcile that one? Maybe you'd like to revise it to, Fox cuts off the mikes of moderates, huh?
"i did my research, fox calling them a liberal doesn't make them so."
Your opinion on who's a liberal and who's not is simply that..your opinion. And I'm fairly certain it's not shared by most people (although that's just my opinion).
countess666Feb 17, 2012
"Please explain how you reconcile that one? "
i did. twice.
3de time:
she's slight left on centre, and fox can't even stomach her opinion and wants to cut off here mic.
why would their treat a true liberal any better? yet that is what you claim they would do!
4th, longer explanation:
if fox threatens to cut off the mic of a centrist (and they only threatened to do it if they actually wanted too, lets be honest here ,even though they knew they couldn't.) how would they treat a actual liberal?
are you seriously proposing they would treat a liberal better? because that's what your argument amounts too.
"Well you're using the Powers incident as proof that Fox cuts off the mikes of progressives"
no, i did not. putting words in my mouth again.
I used it as a example of fox wanting to silence voices not conducive to its chosen message.
whether they did or not isn't really important. they clearly stated they wanted to it.
yet you claim fox lets everybody speak, wants everybody to speak.
but someone who actually genuinely WANTS to let everybody speak would not say such a thing, ever, period.
if fox wanted to let genuinely wanted to let everybody speak why would they hire O'Reilly? "shut up" is pretty much his catch phrase!
instead he's pretty much their star pundit!
atomheartmotherFeb 17, 2012
No matter how you attempt to twist, dodge and obfuscate, the fact remains that you supported the claim that Fox cuts off the mics of those it disagrees with, and the one example you provided to "prove" it showed that it never happened.
You have a serious inability to admit when you're wrong, which I imagine can be traced to early childhood.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
grannysrightFeb 18, 2012
"disagree with a progressive and they'll try to explained why they think you are wrong.
disagree with a conservative, and you're a dirty liberal (said in sneering voice)."
And here I was thinking it was the 'reverse'.
JustSayNoPartyFeb 16, 2012
I believe Mr. Niven was expressing displeasure with the addition of 'liberals' on FOX. Many of the Republicans I know are not 'open' to opposing views. In fact, they tend to be very intolerant of those with opposing views.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
That's his view and he's entitled to it, but it's one I don't share.
As to how receptive regular individuals are to opposing ideas, I don't think that deviates a whole lot on party line or ideology.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
JustSayNoPartyFeb 16, 2012
True. If someone has bought the party line, they won't be receptive to opposing views regardless of party.
Atom, while at times you are 'too far to the right' for my tastes, I do appreciate many of your 'well founded' commentary. Too many posts on DIGG lack objectivity.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Thanks Just, I appreciate that.
dirtyfriesFeb 16, 2012
atom's all right. Not agreeing is one thing, people being dickish is another. We need more atoms, less nivens.
rockyoumonkeysFeb 16, 2012
No.
It's already been explained why Fox News has such great ratings: they're the only major ultra-conservative network, whereas the liberal channels split the vote, so to speak. Fox News is easily at least as one-sided as any of the others you mentioned, though probably more so. They just consolidated their fanbase.
JustSayNoPartyFeb 16, 2012
Ratings don't indicate that a 'station' is getting better. Take a look at the top 20 list again across all shows.
Beyond that, I'd wager that you get the vast majority of your news from sources such as FOX, talk radio, and the Wall Street Journal. Occasionally, your subjected to 'evil liberal' thinking which you must immediately disavow.
I could be wrong.
wmelnickFeb 17, 2012
You obviously do not read the Wall Street Journal. Only the editorial section leans Conservative.
melthornalFeb 16, 2012
I don't think 99.999999999999999999999% of Americans have any f**king clue at all what 'right,' 'left,' 'conservative,' and 'liberal' mean.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Oh but of course you do... 'cause you're so enlightened and all.
melthornalFeb 16, 2012
There you go, making false assumptions. Yet again. Is it your hobby or were you just born that way?
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
What the hell else could anyone possibly assume from your comment, that you're part of the "99.999999999999999999999%" who don't have a clue, too?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
melthornalFeb 16, 2012
I guess some people wouldn't get a joke if it ran up and punched them square on the nose.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
Jokes are supposed to be funny, last time I checked.
melthornalFeb 16, 2012
Perhaps if you resisted your constant need to jump to idiotic assumptions long enough to think things through and understand what people are actually trying to say, you would understand the humor.
atomheartmotherFeb 16, 2012
I'm quite capable of understanding humor, and quite capable of distinguishing it form stupidity as well.
Yours was obviously the latter.
seroevoFeb 17, 2012
I think more know, but it's often irrelevant.
At the end of the day it matters more to people what jersey you're "wearing." You could be a baseball junkie or a casual fan or just think a player is good looking, but it really just matters to most whether you have a B or NY on your cap.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.