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laurahoustonJul 27, 2011
2+ years of obstruction of americas federal gov process & damage to the middle class from the states actions, should be tagged 'political terrorism.'
austinjameshereJul 26, 2011
Republicans are still playing games over the debt... I highly doubt Americans will find it funny when interest rates soar.
tcbishop12Jul 26, 2011Submitter
"That is no way to run the greatest country on Earth. It is a dangerous game we've never played before, and we can't afford to play it now. Not when the jobs and livelihoods of so many families are at stake," he said. Arguing that Republican leaders were acting far outside of the interests of their constituents in bringing the nation to the brink of default, the President called on voters to "make your voice heard."
bdbrJul 27, 2011
We make our voices heard by posting on Digg. /s
Seriously, if you have a Republican congressperson, call them. Your call alone won't make a difference, but if enough people call it might.
roofviewJul 26, 2011
Raise the dam debt ceiling and get serious about cutting spending and if the rich need to be taxed more do it and stop playing games the American people deserve no less.
crunchydeluxeJul 27, 2011
Ask yourself this: What the hell is the *point* of the debt ceiling, if we're just going to keep raising it? We need someone in the White House who will reign in the ridiculous budget mismanagement perpetrated by the Democrats.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shingoexJul 27, 2011
Republican stonewalling does not = budget mismanagement perpetrated by the Democrats.
It's sad when a party would rather point the finger, "saying I told you so" than to actually help out by working together.
trdrstvJul 27, 2011
What do you think the point of this article is ? It's pointing the finger at the Republicans because they Won't allow the debt to be raised beyond the point Obama wants...
So again "What the hell is the *point* of the debt ceiling, if we're just going to keep raising it?"
and how is borrowing funds to pay 44% of your bills sustainable?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shingoexJul 27, 2011
I'm just replying to a segment of the post.
Closed AccountJul 27, 2011
most likely, from the same person.
JonathonFishenatorJul 27, 2011
You're right, the GOP f**ked up, they shouldn't get a debt ceiling vote at all.
martin92003Jul 27, 2011
Thank you thank you..maybe the gop will finally pay attention....But I wont hold my breath.
touchy610Jul 27, 2011
This is such a sad state for out country to be in. While the average person is going to pay for it, these politicians, of both parties, are just having a f**king pissing contest.
Why the hell can't we take recommendations from BOTH sides? Neither side has a concrete decision that will improve our position, so why not...oh, I don't know...WORK TOGETHER? Why the f**k does it ALWAYS have to be "us vs. them"? Do some research into the options, find the best and most viable ones, and implement them, TOGETHER.
I can understand a disagreement if this was a big matter that WASN'T currently f**king us up, but this is about the entire country. Why not work for the nation, rather than work to promote your own party?
Our government has become no better than a god-damned soap opera.
bdbrJul 27, 2011
"Earlier this year House Republicans produced a report noting that an 85%-15% split between spending cuts and tax rises was the average for successful fiscal consolidations, according to historical evidence. The White House is offering an 83%-17% split (hardly a huge distance) and a promise that none of the revenue increase will come from higher marginal rates, only from eliminating loopholes. If the Republicans were real tax reformers, they would seize this offer."
http://www.economist.com/node/18928600?story_id=18928600
They didn't, of course. This is how they "work together": Obama moves right, they move further right.
kasha34Jul 27, 2011
Obama offered nothing. There's no bill. There's nothing on paper.
The reason is, then he'd reveal that his "cuts" were phony.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
macbookformeJul 26, 2011
A very scary game, indeed!
jefftsJul 27, 2011
I find it funny that it's always the Republicans fault. It wasn't Republicans who failed to pass a budget in 2010. It was a Democratically controlled Congress who failed to do so. Republicans in the House at least passed a budget this year. But where is the Democratically controlled Senate on this? Have they even proposed a budget? Obama proposed a budget and it was voted down in the Senate with no support from either party.
Bush spent like a drunken sailor but under the Obama administration, we are apparently adding $4+ billion to the deficit every day. Under Bush, it was $1+ billion. Under Clinton, it was in the 100s of millions.
Obama and Boehner were close to reaching a deal that would have lead to $800 billion in revenue increases. But it's my understanding that Obama walked away from the deal upon hearing about another proposal in the Senate that would have included more revenue increases. That isn't compromise. Not when you know that revenue increases are the prime sticking point for the other side.
We need to stop the spending and reform the tax code. By reforming the tax code and doing away with all of the loopholes for individuals and corporations, we could lower the tax rate while increasing tax revenue and making this country more competitive.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shingoexJul 27, 2011
I don't remember the budget being balanced when Bush left office. Do you? Both parties have to work together, and the GOP is being a complete dick about it. They'd rather humiliate the opposing party than to do what's best for the US by HELPING. You know..."UNITED" States of America?????
jefftsJul 27, 2011
I'm not saying that it was balanced. Of course it wasn't balanced under Bush. That doesn't excuse the fact that Democrats failed to pass a budget. That, in part, has lead to our current circumstances. There is enough blame to go all the way around.
But if a balanced budget is what you are arguing for, why are the President and Democrats so opposed to a balanced budget amendment? Obviously, it'd be a lot of work to make it truly happen since the states would have to vote on it. But I can't see how at least attempting to create a balanced budget amendment, or even promising to see it done in the future, would be a bad thing for our country. It would at least help to prevent us from ever being in this same position again.
And did you ever stop to think that those with opposing political views think that they ARE doing what is best for the country? The Republicans are trying to adhere to their principals just like any other political party.
And just for the record, according to July 18th Gallup poll, by a "42% to 22% margin, [Americans] are more likely to want their representative in Congress to vote against rather than for an increase in the federal debt ceiling, with 35% saying they have no opinion."Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shingoexJul 27, 2011
Once again, it's impossible to get something worked out when the opposing party absolutely REFUSES to help.
I just can't see why a bunch of middle-aged (borderline elderly) rich, white people in suits and ties have to act like f**king babies because they can't agree to help the nation they're supposedly trying to represent.
It's god damned embarrassing. They don't give a flying f**k about anything except getting in power, and they're going out of their way to sabotage the current administration.
darkmatter911Jul 27, 2011
If this is a dangerous game and no way to run the country then why doesn't he STF and actually do something to resolve the problem. Instead he is more concerned about his own rhetoric. It is typical Obama - we must compromise (with compromise meaning we must do things his way).
The Senate had worked out a bipartisan bill that he threatened to veto. How is that working towards a solution?
Of course the republicans are playing games also. While the gov't needs to be cut significantly there is going to have to be some compromise on their part.
But not to worry no matter what happens the American people can count on one thing - they will be f**ked over no matter what solution is reached.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shingoexJul 27, 2011
You can't do anything when the opposition is doing everything they can to stop him.
"It is typical Obama - we must compromise (with compromise meaning we must do things his way)."
Absolute bulls**t. He's had to keep backing down and falling back because the GOP refuses to help with anything.
dauntless1Jul 27, 2011
Indeed. He's very rarely stood his ground on anything. The Republicons are doing all the pushing here.
kasha34Jul 27, 2011
@darkmatter
Why? Because Obama WANTS to bankrupt the USA. It's called the Cloward Piven strategy.
Closed AccountJul 27, 2011
No, it's not. That is a nonsensical blather point you and your extremist lunatic buddies spew without any proof much like all of your other nonsense for the last three years about birth certificates and make-believe Marxism, you silly little Fascist.
Funny enough, Kasha, I am kind of curious how you were able to get internet access in your cell in Norway.
kasha34Jul 27, 2011
He's obviously ruining the economy by driving us further and further into debt. If he was your brother-in-law doing that to his family, you'd be calling your sister every night begging her to leave him.
Obama is a Harvard lawyer and is surrounded with other highly intelligent people. So it cannot be they don't know that adding more and more crippling job-killing debt will ruin us.
So why would they be doing it? Simple. That want to.
The strategy is to add historic levels of debt to purposely wreck the economy so that socialism will seem the only answer to millions of unemployed and hungry Americans. The American left has worked towards that goal since the mid-60s. It's called the Cloward-Piven strategy. As you know.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 27, 2011
1. All nations and all corporations use debt to cover their operating costs and then use their income to cover that debt with the difference being profit. You must have no idea how Capitalism works to spew such nonsense.
2. Debt does not by itself kill jobs, spending cuts however, destroy the economy, which is what the boneheaded right is trying to force the Government through extortion to do, why do you carry their water? Are you really this dense? Our periods of highest employment and highest prosperity had found us carrying debt far above anything we have right now compared to GDP. I doubt you believe this, but you believe all sorts of idiocy so it doesn't really matter.
3. No, the Cloward-Piven bulls**t you keep spewing is just right-wing conspiracy theory nonsense that gets debunked the minute you say it, much like most of what you say. Why do you insist on lying when you get shown as a complete hack every time you do?
4. There is no attempted Socialism, only an attempted neo-fascist cheap-labor theocratic attempt by people like you.
4. I wonder when I will hear that your little hate-group killed innocents to prove a point? Hell, I still am not sure that you aren't sending this from a cell in Norway right now, Fascist.
No one buys your fascist, extremist right-wing lies and hate and baseless conspiracy nonsense here, Kasha. Why don't you just go to Stormfront where you belong?
kasha34Jul 27, 2011
"the Cloward-Piven bulls**t you keep spewing is just right-wing conspiracy theory nonsense..."
You're denying Cloward and Piven exist?
You're denying they wrote a very widely known article calling for pushing the govt to spend more and more on social programs until it goes bankrupt?
And then socialism/social justice would rise from the ashes?
You're denying that ACORN and other groups were put together to implement this plan?
You're denying that Obama knows all this?
What's "debunked"? It's self-evident.
Everyone sees it but you.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 28, 2011
Yes, I am denying all of your fascist Bulls**t, much like everyone else who you fling it at. Much like most of the Right Wing has nothing to do with Mein Kampf, no one cares about what a couple of leftist radicals did or wrote decades ago.
No one in modern American politics is attempting to spend on social programs to bankrupt the government but you right wing idiots are absolutely trying to bankrupt the government with your giveaways to billionaires and illegal wars, the very billionaires who very much intend to use you as chattel labor when you give them what they want.
Yes, you are absolutely bat-s**t insane and your lies about all of these things, including ACORN, a group established to help the poor attempt to survive, are routinely debunked, often to your face.
Obama?? Where do you believe he is from? Kasha? Yes, much like your Muslim lies and your birth certificate lies, your assumption of his complicity in a ridiculous conspiracy theory lies right between the "moon landing hoax theory" and "ZOMG! CHEMTRAILZZ!" as laughable, even by the people slightly to the far-right of you, you idiot!
No one believes this out side of your little coven of hate groups and your little friend in Norway who killed almost 100 innocent children after being indoctrinated with your hate and lies, Fascist!
Go back to Stormfront!