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soc7Aug 18, 2010
This sounds like territory that the right wing has thoroughly staked out.
balancedAug 18, 2010
Nah, there's conspiracy theorists of all kinds.
soc7Aug 18, 2010
Yes there are. But I'll leave it to the true professionals on the right.
rednipAug 18, 2010
Name one that is widely held by the American 'left'.
Right wingers seemingly get merit badges for spreading half-baked theories.
cygnus2112Aug 19, 2010
@rednip
JFK assassination, 9/11 Truthers (although it seems to be shared), Bush/Cheney causing every malady in the world, imperialism for oil, Al Qaeda/CIA links, Prescott Bush, American dictatorships, globalization, Bilderberg, Zionism ... to name a few.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rednipAug 19, 2010
@cygnus2112
Total fail, your far more likely to hear any of that on right wing talk radio.
crunchdiggAug 18, 2010
There are crazies on every "side". Some sides have professional help and larger media outlets.
therednewtAug 18, 2010
Yeah, there are conspiracy theorists across the spectrum of beliefs, but there's no denying that the right wing certainly seems to have a larger base of this junk, at least of late.
jb4062Aug 18, 2010
It certainly is funny though.
Kind of like this gem:
"One Patriot theory says the United Nations wants to create a "biosphere" out of most of the United States"
They are afraid of the US being turned into a biosphere. I guess we shouldn't tell them it already is.
axeswingerAug 18, 2010
Starring the Weasel?
tiakAug 19, 2010
That's actually a misreading of an admittedly incoherent paranoid rant. They were actually scared that the US government would make a sequel to Biodome.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
You can call them Right Wing if you want, but most people who believe this stuff Hated Bush.
fordsvt1Aug 18, 2010
Only because Bush wasn't right wing enough, and that says something.
axeswingerAug 18, 2010
@bio
I saw this happen over the course of Bush's eight years with my brother. Most right wing paranoids started out loving Bush and defending everything that came immediately after Sept 11.
It was not until the emotions of fear that day created faded and they realized the implications or the Patriot Act, Iraq War, and the abuses of the Bush administration that they needed to rationalize how they were "hoodwinked".
By calling it a plot and suggesting this had been planned for years only made it easier to be victim to all that "planning."
thetxiAug 18, 2010
The Republicans of 2001-2008 weren't what I would consider the models of honesty and intellectualism, but I'll be damned if they didn't all catch a collective case of stupid after the Obama election.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Huh, strange I remember this stuff being called LEFT-wing conspiracy theories 3 years ago.
Oh I get it. All the left wingers turned into right wingers right?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
honukaiAug 18, 2010
Thats not that crazy of a thing to say sirellyn. Our national view of center has been pushed to the right over the last 30 years. Ronald Reagan would have been too centrist to be a right winger these days. Obama the "liberal" president is on the right side of center. There are a few liberals out there...but very few.
5urr3al5amAug 19, 2010
Yeah, but you have to ask yourself, with all the s**t going down with 0bama and the dems, why is this climbing up the front page of digg?
stinkypete312Aug 19, 2010
oh sure...because we all know the f**king lefties never have any conspiracy theories of their goddamn own.
gimme a f**king break
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
Lol! Mollydog is back!
djenna8Aug 18, 2010
The more ignorant and uneducated your base, the more likely they are going to believe every bat-s**t crazy story you can dream up.
Also, having something like fox news to legitimise these crackpot theories also helps...
keithlolbermannAug 18, 2010
Whatever, truther.
tubatechnoAug 18, 2010
When has fox news legitimized these theories? Or was that just a cheap shot with no evidence?
djenna8Aug 18, 2010
Death panels
Obamas birth place
terrorist babies
anything out of glen becks mouth
I could continue, but I'm getting depressed just writing down this list of insanity
n0diggityAug 18, 2010
here are some other myths from fox news
Obama coming for your guns
Palin actually being capable of anything
Beck against public health care after saying how great it was during his surgery
not to mention they will entertain any crazy idea and present it as true under the guise of 'giving both sides of the story', but when it's refuted several times over by facts, just cut the person off and say, 'well, there's two sides to this, we can't really say for sure'
thetxiAug 18, 2010
Glenn Beck saying he was unable to debunk the myth of FEMA concentration camps.
He and his research staff are amazing.
captininsanityAug 18, 2010
I have a very sane friend who honestly believes in the risk of the door to door gun confiscation thing. He's always talking about keeping a good collection before the government makes it illegal, and takes the rights away. Sometimes I wonder if the gun companies encourage this stuff just to get more sales.
smemilyAug 18, 2010
I'd practically guarantee they do, just like the gold coin industry likes to talk up door-to-door gold confiscation.
johnnickAug 18, 2010
Our dog walker is an Army Ranger who brings theories like this into the conversation every few weeks. He believes the flu vaccine was a plot of some kind, and has brought up the "fact" that aspartame is "a toxic by-product of a manufacturing process developed by Haliburton" that was only approved because of Dick Cheney's influence in the government.
I do have to admit that we encourage him due to the entertainment value (we also hope from time to time that he goes back to his buddies and says, "You're not gonna believe the crap I told them this week..." but we don't hold out a lot of hope for that.)
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
Its ridiculous but every time a totalitarian government takes over they confiscate the guns first, that way the people can't defend themselves. I'm not saying its going to happen anytime soon, but of the conspiracy theories on the list this is the only one thats happened before and its happened quite a few times.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
arschgaudiAug 18, 2010
I find it incredibly sad that you have a person to walk your dog.
johnnickAug 18, 2010
@ars -
Nothing like being judgmental without any knowledge of the circumstances. Well done.
captobliviousAug 18, 2010
@arschgaudi
For all you know they could just be helping make sure he does not go hungry, or would that be socialism?
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
I love that I got buried for that. lol "Don't you post a fact that legitimizes a conspiracy theory!" I wasn't saying that the theory on the article was legit just that the right to keep and bear arms is in the Bill of Rights for a reason and its not to kill deer Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ericschc1Aug 18, 2010
@ZayneXZanders: Produce any evidence of door-to-door gun confiscation being a realistic likelihood under Obama or take your ignorant DP mouth and shut it permanently. Obama has said on several occasions he's not touching the 2nd Amendment and has no plans to change any gun policies.
lowlypeonAug 19, 2010
Didn't the government go door to door and confiscate guns in Louisiana?
zaynexzandersAug 19, 2010
@EricSchC1
"I'm not saying its going to happen anytime soon, but of the conspiracy theories on the list this is the only one thats happened before and its happened quite a few times." from my previous post. When I said that I meant to say I didn't think Obama would, clearly he has never said he would confiscate all guns. I was just pointing out that of the theories in this article, that one has happened historically so I don't think it belongs with the rest.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zipkoAug 19, 2010
@ohnnickjohnnick
My first reaction to your post was wondering how your dog, Walker, was a conspiracy theory nut. Then I realized walker wasn't a name.
gsm54321Aug 19, 2010
Aspartame is creepy. I don't need a conspiracy for that. But now we have sucralose, so problem solved.
captobliviousAug 20, 2010
I love the fact that
Tthe Cheap Labor Conservatives brigade (see http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/?q=node%2F55) dugg me down but were unable to reply with anything coherent.
captobliviousAug 20, 2010
@ZayneXZanders
and it dosen't even BEGIN to occur to you that that action was taken by the BUSH administration and NOT the Obama administration?
Really? Seriously? That's the best you've got?
"Because the republicans did it the democrats are going to too"?
mind numbing, amazing.
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
Capt, could you repost that link, it is currently not working.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Of course, you are a democrat and very smart, but republicans are very ignorant and uneducated. /s
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
Hey everyone knows the only way you can have an IQ of higher than 24 and be a republican is if you're Dick Cheney and you are trying to take over the world with your buddies at Haliburton!!!! Every Democrat has an IQ of at least 120 and everyone knows that! /sComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
allisonaxeAug 19, 2010
I agreed with you until i realized you were being sarcastic. :-<
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
9. Clearly sticks out.
Huge public figures criticized it back near its inception including: Henry Ford, Lindenberg.
Forget about the Neo-Nazi's of today.... the original Nazi's were hugely critical of the Fed.
Here's Goebells 1941 propaganda piece : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6229070629122885245#
Watch @ 27:20 for a few mins.
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
Do you realize the irony in your statement? Nobody believes those stupid conspiracies.
jkalAug 19, 2010
Not Everything is black & white.
A mixture of truth and lies always serves well to keep all citizens in overall ignorance.
eg #10 is not entirely a crackpot theory
WSJ's http://www.marke****ch.com/story/do-we-need-a-north-american-currency
some very influential people have taken this idea and it looks like for the moment it has been put in the back burner.
However after "IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-11/u-s-is-bankrupt-and-we-don-t-even-know-commentary-by-laurence-kotlikoff.html
who knows what's in the coming future.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tiakAug 19, 2010
In related news:
18% of Americans now believe Obama is a secret Muslim.
43% of Americans say they do not know or are unsure of his religion.
Yes, people really are that stupid. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-08-19-obama19_ST_N.htm
mwrlAug 19, 2010
Two words: CODE PINK
Makes the different Tea Parties look smart.
captobliviousAug 20, 2010
three words
Pointless false equivalency.
Makes you look defensive with no actual defense.
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
lol! Not even close!
Code Pink tries to keep the government from goint to war, GOP-Tbaggers want to stop all non Christians from exercising their 1st amendment rights, keep poor people from getting health care and destroy every department of government that DOESN'T go to war.
Try again RWNJ.
stinkypete312Aug 19, 2010
sounds just like the democratic party.
how's that f**king "change" treating you?
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
Pretty f**king good, actually, Mollydog. Why did you not decide to go with another girl name this time?
dream0weaverAug 18, 2010
Why is this grouped into right wing? I'm pretty there are people like that who take sides from both in wing politics.
prodigitalsonAug 18, 2010
Its a misleading title.. if you read the article it specifically aites that some of the same theories are held by the far let as well.
arschgaudiAug 18, 2010
The Digg crowd isn't immune to this kind of crap either
http://digg.com/world_news/Barksdale_Missile_Number_Six_The_Stolen_Nuclear_Weapon_2
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
I think I pulled an eye muscle reading your sentence. ouch!
waiting2awakeAug 18, 2010
Because it is a Nov article...
richmomzAug 18, 2010
Exactly - they act like these theories didn't exist before Obama was elected.
notthatnoiseAug 18, 2010
the article actually explicitly states the origins of most of these theories, and almost all were before obama. knock the title if you want, but you obviously didn't read the article.
atarioAug 19, 2010
In what sense? They spend the first paragraph establishing that conspiracy theories are nothing new.
What they do say that these have gone more mainstream than ever in the wake of the election of President Obama, which is undeniable. We now have actual, no-foolin' Congressmen standing on the legislative floor spouting some of this nonsense.
kennykljAug 18, 2010
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joglebyAug 18, 2010
If you go to the extreme ends of the political spectrum, the left and the right merge into one conspiracy-minded group of retards.
arschgaudiAug 18, 2010
If you move far enough right eventually you'll show up on the left.
hutch619Aug 18, 2010
@arschgaudi -
... on a globe?
lukeatronAug 18, 2010
@hutch619: He just means that if you start acting crazy enough to attract negative attention, his group of True Americans will disown you. If you're not a True American, you're leftist commie. Those are the only two options.
spinningheadAug 18, 2010
I think its because crazy s**t like "terror babies" don't get the same kind of traction with liberals.
jbmcbAug 18, 2010
But the "Chemtrail" conspiracy dovetails nicely with the more lunatic fringes of the environmental movement.
h8f8kesAug 18, 2010
I have a crazy theory that needs to be refuted. Please bear with me, because this needs to be investigated.
A second rate blogger was getting upset that his submissions to his site was getting buried on Digg and not getting enough web traffic.
When he realized that a group of people were conspiring to get thier own material to the front page, he decided to create a sockpuppet named Dilberto to infiltrate this group.
Once accepted into the group, he actively solicited people in the group to do things that were in violation of the Digg TOU. He could then write an expose on the group to generate traffic to his site for profit and at the same time silence his political enemies.
I am hoping that the great investigative reporter OleOle Olson will validate or refute this conspiracy. The community deserves to know the truth.
dickyt83Aug 18, 2010
Honestly, the chemtrails one seemed like the left wingers would be the one's who were concerned about it, with the the right wingers being the chemtrail distributors, if you will.
zeitgeist6149Aug 18, 2010
A lot of this stuff isn't a conspiracy, either. I'm quite shocked to see "The Federal Reserve Conspiracy." But not so shocked that they don't explain what exactly qualifies it as a "conspiracy theory."
They aren't a Federal institution, they control our money supply and lend it to us, then buy our treasuries with our IOUs. So we pay interest on the initial capital as well as their investment. This isn't a conspiracy, this is why debt and the supply of money are conjoined at the hip.
spykerspeedAug 19, 2010
It's a conspiracy theory in the same way that gravity or evolution is a conspiracy theory.
jaydoAug 19, 2010
The conspiracy occurs when you make crazy statements like the fed is run by an evil league of jews that are going to take over everything, or something else equally crazy.
I mean, it is pretty crazy that a bunch of all ready rich people earned the control of our money supply... but it's not the damn illuminati bringing the apocalypse down upon us.
dankolearyAug 18, 2010
As the British say, c**kup before conspiracy
kahrahtayAug 18, 2010
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"
twinklyjesusAug 18, 2010
Funny, many of those were the same "theories" left-wing nut-jobs were claiming, when Bush was President and Katrina had just happened., According to what I remember, Bush was controlling hurricanes to kill black people, and the chemtrails were how they were starting the hurricanes.
Interesting how the shoe is now on the other foot, and the conspiracies are now attributed to the other party....
weird.
propethicAug 18, 2010
Did you read the article? Katrina is barely even mentioned, and the articles name is "right wing conspiracy theories". Katrina is mentioned because of the right wing conspiracies claiming it's the start of martial law and gun confiscations. If the title of the article was called left wing conspiracy theories you might have a point.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ironhideAug 18, 2010
Your memory must be faulty. Want to try showing some links?
All I remember was people blaming Bush and his poor choice for FEMA head of incompetence.
5urr3al5amAug 19, 2010
just like how the media slammed 0bama for doing nothing about the oil spill for something like 40 days
stinkypete312Aug 19, 2010
but that ass clown president of ours did a stellar job getting right on fixing that whole oil spill fiasco.
what an ass...
stavrogin2Aug 18, 2010
No one ever said that Bush could control hurricanes with chemtrails. You're an idiot.
nidstylesAug 18, 2010
Actually yes, they did. It was even on the front page here on Digg.
malexAug 18, 2010
@wF80didit:
Read his post again slowly.
@NidStyles:
There should be page links still available, then. Care to cite some?
fordsvt1Aug 18, 2010
You've never listed to Coast to Coast AM, have you....
vbullingerAug 18, 2010
Nope, Alex Jones never said that Bush could control hurricanes with chemtrails. No one's ever said that. Maybe hurricanes and chemtrails?!?
boombyeAug 18, 2010
I think they said it was done with HAARP, since that's the one they say controls the weather or some crap
falconearAug 18, 2010
Only Destro can control the weather, you fools!
tiakAug 19, 2010
Some have made claims trending in that direction, but not frequently. The second of these two links seems to make it pretty directly.
http://www.rense.com/general2/chemmod.htm
http://www.slideshare.net/guestcdfdc5/chemtrails-experiments-in-weather-controlComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
flip2tripAug 18, 2010
Don't forget all the, "Bush is going to declare martial law so he can cancel the elections and remain president."
5urr3al5amAug 19, 2010
Bush blew up the levees:
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/10/spike_lee_confi.html
http://davidsright.blogspot.com/2005/09/farrakhan-bush-blew-up-no-levees.html
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/16/11533.shtml
isifunded911Aug 18, 2010
One of the best documentaries I ever saw, about a real conspiracy, by a BBC journalist:
Big Easy to Big Empty: The Untold Story of the Drowning of New Orleans (2007):
http://www.amazon.com/Big-Easy-Empty-Drowning-Orleans/dp/B000PAAIQ6
Greg Palast exposes how:
-The White House would not tell the state police that the levees of the city were about to burst and drown the disabled residents left behind.
-How poor residents of the city were marched out of their houses at gunpoint-and now kept out by barbed wire in a scheme to turn New Orleans into a whiter, more Republican tourist town, "Six Flags Over Louisiana."
About the Author:
* Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestseller, "Armed Madhouse" (Penguin 2006). When Palast, an investigator of corporate fraud and racketeering, turned his skills to journalism, he was quickly recognized as, "The most important investigative reporter of our time" [Tribune Magazine] in Britain, where his first reports appeared on BBC television and in the Guardian newspapers.
* Author of another New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, Palast is best known in his native USA as the journalist who, for the Observer (UK), broke the story of how Jeb Bush purged thousands of Black Florida citizens from voter rolls before the 2000 election, thereby handing the White House to his brother George. His reports on the theft of election 2004, the spike of the FBI investigations of the bin Ladens before September 11, the secret State Department documents planning the seizure of Iraq's oil fields have won him a record six "Project Censored" for reporting the news American media doesn't want you to hear. "The top investigative journalist in the United States is persona non grata in his own country's media." [Asia Times.] He returned to America to report for Harper's Magazine.
* Greg Palast, says Noam Chomsky, "Upsets all the right people."
* Palast won the George Orwell Courage in Journalism Award for his BBC documentary, Bush Family Fortunes.
* "Greg Palast is one of my heroes. The last investigative reporter in America. In Armed Madhouse he has the best inside story of the war inside the White House over the war in Iraq, the battle between the neo-cons and Big Oil." -Robert F Kennedy Jr. -Air America Radio
* "Twisted and maniacal" -Katherine HarrisComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
malexAug 19, 2010
Gee, it sure is cut-and-paste in here.
drunkenkiteAug 19, 2010
Ahhh the introspection! It burns!
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
The left wing also feeds absurd conspiracy theories, like that Iraq never had weapons of mass destruction and that the Bush administration was just after the country's oil.
Oh, wait...
magus_melchiorAug 18, 2010
Actually, plenty of folks on the Left were trying to pin down why Bush invaded Iraq, if not for WMDs. Turns out it was planned all along by neocons led by Bill Kristol and the like, but the Left thought it was for oil money for quite some time.
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
I'd still argue that the Iraq invasion had more to do with oil than freedom or terrorism. Iraq was a crappy country and Saddam an evil leader, but he was no imminent threat to the US.
automatikAug 18, 2010
they DID find wmd's. the MSM just buried it! sheesh.
hapahaikuAug 18, 2010
Part of me wants to Digg this for awesome snark. Then part of me thinks you're serious and goes "OMG BURY BURY!"
I'm so conflicted.
taaybAug 18, 2010
Except for the fact that a lot of left-wing morons believe some of this nonsense as well. But, I won't make the same idiotic mistake of generalizing the entire left based on the thoughts of a vocal minority. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nytelAug 18, 2010
Remember when the Liberals were up in arms about 9/11?
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
Are you saying 9/11 didn't happen?
nytelAug 19, 2010
Does that question sound like I'm saying it didn't happen? No. Please read again.
edsrouterAug 18, 2010
I guess Alan Greenspan is a conspiracy theorist too because he said the Iraq war was all about oil in his book "The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World". It's obvious Saddam was going to stand in the way of getting oil supplies. BP along with other oil giants like CNPC just got the contract for the biggest oil well in Iraq (Rumaila) that Saddam was protecting and claiming the Kuwaitis were stealing. This wouldn't have been possible for this giant to get this if Saddam was still in power. They're talking about ramping up production making Rumaila the largest well in the world. I mean stick stick a straw in the ground and suck in Iraq and you get oil. This poster who thinks Iraq wasn't about oil is just fooling himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumaila_oil_field
dinglebuttAug 18, 2010
the government controls a giant feather in the sky capable of tickling anyone's feet within hours
dorsal98Aug 18, 2010
Don't we all complain how slow / incompetent the government is. Yet it has super advanced technology all over the place. And somehow a bill that takes away all your rights could even get passed. Anyways everyone knows the UN built a military base on Mars and is going to orchestrate an alien invasion to take all our guns away.
unfriendlyfireAug 18, 2010
Those are all good theories.
crazedleperAug 18, 2010
Yup. Probable cause is well established in every case but there are some people who will never believe *anything* unless it comes from some man who has a nice suit, a podium and a forked tongue.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thespikesterAug 18, 2010
...for me to poop on.
chilidogsAug 18, 2010
*smiles and nods*
*backs away slowly without making eye contact*
thetxiAug 18, 2010
YOU FORGOT TO WHISTLE!
Oh f**k now you're going to die. You know you're supposed to whistle!
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Wouldn't exactly say these are right wing conspiracies. That's more like birthers, deathers, NWO...
aadainAug 18, 2010
If you RTFA, you will see that the author does make mention when some of the conspiracies are shared by both left & right wing lunatics, and how each can view the same idea but form different conclusions. But the article does focus on ideas commonly held by those identifying themselves are hardcore, true-blue right wing Republicans/Conservatives. They have recently been joined by groups like the birthers, deathers, etc (there is probably a very large overlap).
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Maybe next time I'll RTFA, but I wouldn't say paranoia is unique to the right wing (global warming, anyone?).
bookantAug 18, 2010
You're going to have to help me out with that one. The only conspiracy theories I've ever seen associated with global warming are coming from deniers on the right - the scientists are all lying to protect their source of funding, it's just a way for the government to sieze control of our lives, yada yada yada . . . .
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
If you believe global warming is a serious threat to the planet our way of life, then there's nothing left to talk about.
ciryonAug 18, 2010
Right wing? Bulls**t! I know LOT'S of left wing people who believe in these conspiracy theories.
dinglebuttAug 18, 2010
and because they're atheists and realists
what a bunch of scumbags!
high-five?
xenuxenutsAug 18, 2010
Very few people hate capitalism. Many do realize that capitalism is a means to an end -- it is not the goal. And believe it or not, the US is not perfect. We've done some boneheaded things. Guess what, every country has. Sweeping them under the rug doesn't do anyone any good.
One good thing about the US is we can change the constitution. If we figure out that we were a bunch of idiots for doing so, we can change it again. Take prohibition, which was one of the dumbest and "unamerican" things ever did by this country.
haz3rdAug 19, 2010
WHAT?! No, everything is either black or white. There can't be any grey! That dosen't fit into the narrative I've been told.
trexorAug 18, 2010
"They blame the US for everything because they hate capitalism."
I call bulls**t, I'm as far left as a person can be and I realize some form capitalism will always exist and be necessary. At least until the time when resources and energy are in such abundance that we will never have to worry about running out of them.
atheuzAug 18, 2010
quickly, you need to edit your post to say "HATE ER FREEDAMS"
xtortion08Aug 19, 2010
Anytime someone feels the need to say the person who disagrees with them 'hates their country' they instantly invalidate any point they are trying to make. Sorry, that's just the way it works.
glassagateAug 19, 2010
I dislike an extremist form of capitalism, where something won't be done, because
it can't make a profit.
Public education is a need, at far as a basic k-12 education is concerned. Now,
if you want your child taught physics by Stephen Hawkings, you're going to have
to do some leg work. If parents want to home school their kid, that's okay, just
as long as they actually follow a plan, and the plan covers basically the same courses
as public schools.
Also, home schooling parents need to be checked to make sure that they aren't
violating child labor laws. Of course, the parents who are, probably are just going
to teach their kids to read and write, and thump them with a Bible when they're
not tending the field.
specimen7Aug 18, 2010
I've never really accessioned the 9/11 "truthers" and chemtrails with right wingers. These conspiracy theories are usually in the same basket as the planet X, Illuminati, UFO cover up and Bigfoot nutcases.
snaxieAug 18, 2010
Bigfoot is totally real. I saw one once..... :/
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Me too! Well.....I think I did. I was kinda wasted at the time. But it was big and hairy and smelled like fish!
phaedrynAug 18, 2010
As soon as you start talking about conspiracy theories, you are in the realm of the nutcases. I’ve never seen much evidence to suggest that one political ideology is more susceptible than another. If anything it just goes to show that ignorance and stupidity doesn’t discriminate.
crazedleperAug 18, 2010
Buried for use of thought-stopping, propaganda stand-by label "nutcases". Crazy people don't sit around imagining conspiracies, they get up and make them real.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johnrebAug 18, 2010
No, actually, they usually spend a lot of time thinking them up. The sane ones spend that time laughing at them for believing them
nytelAug 18, 2010
You can leave UFO cover up out of that equation. Anyone can file a request with the Freedom of Information Act and get tangible evidence.
defteatsAug 18, 2010
If you read the 9/11 conspiracy one, he points out that this specific conspiracy isn't exclusive to just the right.
defteatsAug 18, 2010
If you read the 9/11 conspiracy theory entry, he explains that this specific conspiracy isn't exclusive to the right wing.
danconiaAug 19, 2010
Whoa whoa whoa, why you gotta bring Sasquatch into this?!
johnnickAug 18, 2010
So many of these would benefit from an application of Occam's Razor.
diggrageAug 18, 2010
I know it is cool to talk about Occam's Razor, but I am sick of people applying it to human behavior, it just doesn't work that way.
nidstylesAug 18, 2010
Occam's Razor is over-used and never truly understood.
darrelcAug 18, 2010
Not in a conspiracy sense.
Was the US attacked by terrorists? or... (insert 30 page '"factual" argument that it was the lizards)
johnnickAug 18, 2010
Obviously not over used, since people manage to believe these theories, but perhaps misunderstood. Occam's Razor simply states that the explanation for something that involves the fewest assumptions is more likely to be correct.
In the case of each of these supposed conspiracies, for the conspiracy to be true you must make many more assumptions about the motivations, actions and resources of the conspirators than you have to make for the simpler, non-conspiracy driven explanations.
kyanAug 19, 2010
Actually, Occam's razor itself is the conspiracy of our times.
diggrageAug 21, 2010
@johnnick When applying Occam's Razor to human behavior, you will find out quite often that the simplest answer quite simple, isn't the correct one.
Occam's Razor applies more to scientific theories, and explanations of physically phenomena.
I might digress, to give a contrived example. Say, perhaps, a woman is murdered. The simplest explanation is that his wife found out he was cheating on her. The more complicated explanation was that he was hooked on drugs and got in too deep with a drug dealing organization. Which explanation requires more assumptions, and does that really affect which one is really true. That was my point.
hutch619Aug 18, 2010
or any razor for that matter. Crazy people always have seem to have enormous beards.
ultimisAug 18, 2010
Pretty much. My brother is a big conspiracy theory nut (also a leftist) and its fun to simply question the motive of the individuals behind the conspiracy. Ultimately there is no motive, they're just evil for the sake of being evil. Than you have to explain that even Hitler had motives for his evil deeds... Logic never works though. They believe what they want to believe.
darrelcAug 18, 2010
Same situation. science, logicism, rational thinking, nothing works.
ishqboliAug 18, 2010
i find it ironic that the far-right would be afraid of concentration camps when there are some murmurs from their side about locking up all american muslims in internment camps... or does calling them "internment camps" make it okay?
xenuxenutsAug 18, 2010
It's not bad when _they_ do it.
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
folks usually accuse others of doing things that they would themselves do
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
aw dang, infinite loop
thetxiAug 18, 2010
C.C.C.C.COMBO BREAKER
zapperdude60Aug 18, 2010
This is basically Alex Jones' resume.
boneheadfarkerAug 18, 2010
Throw in some reptilians and it could be David Icke.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
Maybe, but regardless of whether you accept his "conclusions" on these issues he does raise some interesting issues that the rest of the media won't touch, and actually does a decent job of citing his sources (well, his staff does anyway).
zeitgeist6149Aug 18, 2010
and he has the best interviews around, undoubtedly.
yourekinkyAug 19, 2010
Zeitgeist is all about Alex Jones, obviously...
richmomzAug 19, 2010
His interviews *are* good - he has congressmen (Ron Paul was on today) governors, and ex-presidential admin. officials on all the time. And just the other day he interviewed Pakistan's former intelligence head (the one accused of working with the Taliban) - you won't see *that* on mainstream news.
crazedleperAug 18, 2010
All researched. All true.
kingp43Aug 19, 2010
I'm with you, these are all good theories, well researched. I do find it disheartening to realize that so many will blindly accept the governments various "commissions that explain away the mountains of eveidence that prove otherwise. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
boardthisAug 18, 2010
11. god is real
thespikesterAug 18, 2010
..and kills kittens when you... well, you know.
rudegarAug 18, 2010
if he did cats would be extinct a long time ago
crazedleperAug 18, 2010
Researched. True.
falconearAug 18, 2010
What do you mean by "God?"
xenuxenutsAug 18, 2010
1. Chemtrails
2. Martial Law
3. FEMA Concentration Camps
4. Foreign Troops on U.S. Soil
5. 'Door-to-Door' Gun Confiscations
6. 9/11 as Government Plot
7. Population Control
8. HAARP
9. The Federal Reserve Conspiracy
10. The North American Union
ed4649Aug 18, 2010
Come on! At least it was all on one page! I though we only did this when we have to go through a slide show or a lot of pages.
rhendalAug 18, 2010
tl;dr comes into mind.
magus_melchiorAug 18, 2010
#2 and #6 can go both ways easily-- there were plenty of idiots, right-wing and left-wing, who thought that 9/11 was an inside job, for instance, and I do remember Naomi Klein (hardly a right-wing advocate) warning about Bush and/or Cheney imposing martial law (fortunately her prediction didn't come true).
#3, #4, #5, #7, and #10 are very clearly dog-whistle issues for the Michele Bachmann crowd, and #9 is fodder for Ron Paul fans. The author probably should have focused on these and left the above 2 out, as these are quite the panic issues of the fringe Right (to my knowledge, the Left largely either laughs at such conspiracy theories, or never touches them).
I can't speak to the rest of them, as I have no idea what they are, nor do I care to read up on them.
And speaking of right-wing conspiracy theories, where's James Inofe's favorite, "AGW hoax"?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zeitgeist6149Aug 18, 2010
Yeah, I'd love to hear what makes the Federal Reserve a conspiracy theory.
emmeronAug 19, 2010
Heh heh heh ... besides the part of the Federal Reserve conspiracy that was admitted to as being a conspiracy? That has nothing to do with right wing or left wing, it's a matter of an interview with one of the guys behind it in the 1930s. Read up on the history behind the Federal Reserve Act a little. It's not a theory. They freakin' admitted it was.
I know I'll be buried for this -- no one likes the truth. Especially when it doesn't agree with their worldviews.
dalepmayAug 18, 2010
Interesting how these were all left wing liberal conspiracy theories while Bush was in office. But now that we have a democrat in office you liberal retards call them right wing theories. The hypocrisy never ends with you guys does it?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mushtakrakishAug 19, 2010
11. ???
12. Profit!
drunkenkiteAug 19, 2010
I hate when these lists start on number 1 instead of counting down. Its like I've already seen the craziest, now I'm not interested in the rest.
davidyeahAug 18, 2010
I have to call foul here. I'm a pretty liberal guy and I'm happy and actually thrilled to read anything that mocks right wingers, but I think some of these conspiracy theories are just non-political whack job territory. In america, 9/11 is especially fertile grounds for non-ideological based crazythoughts.
jareddennisAug 18, 2010
The article mentions the extremities of left/right agreeing upon the existence of a 9/11 conspiracy but disagreeing on its purpose (perpetual war vs. police state).
drmobutuAug 18, 2010
Why choose? We can have both!
drmobutuAug 18, 2010
9/11, like the Kennedy assassination, will be with us forever...there are just too many weird things going on, all around it...some people will never be satisfied, with the "real" story.
Every couple of years, somebody will write a new book, either confirming or debunking the official Commission report, or exposing some of the other loose ends...this will go on, for decades.
Maybe that was the real purpose of 9/11...to give the conspiracy-minded something to talk about...
v3rtex7740Aug 18, 2010
real purpose of 9/11 = money and power
railzAug 18, 2010
Back and to the left
Back and to the left
Back and to the left
zeitgeist6149Aug 18, 2010
or to invade the middle east...
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
Please remember this the next time an article from AlterNet is dugg up to the front page.
jsmithersAug 18, 2010
YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL GREAT.
But just remember this: It is a historical fact that officialdom the world over has had things it wanted to cover up and has tried to do so (yep, in your country too - where ever that may be). This is as old as the hills. I think we all agree on that, right? (If not, I am utterly confused as to how you think otherwise).
So if you were a member of officialdom, and not wanting something to get out (as we know happens quite often), how do you think you'd tackle a.) keeping it secret, and b.) countering those who suspect something - and announce those suspicions in very loud, very public, and very well organised ways?
Well, here's a suggestion if I may - you paint those suspicions as "conspiracy theory" and you do as much as possible to demonise both the phrase "conspiracy theory" and the suspicions that are being publicly stated. You paint those people with suspicions (which, remember, are absolutely correct - as a member of officialdom you are indeed trying to cover this thing up) as: kooks, liars, tinfoil hat wearers, and so on.
Even better you appear morally outraged whenever anyone even dares suggest the thing you are trying to keep covered up - and you denounce it as "unpatriotic". Even better than that, you take the genuine suspicions of the people, mix in a little lies and outrageous nonsense, and then using various others, present it to the world as being from those with genuine suspicions. An example of this that comes to mind is to take the suspicions of those seeking to understand the WTC collapse, add in the notion that "the aircraft were just holographic projections", and then mix your people who proclaim this, in with others genuinely seeking 9/11 truth.
Yeah, I mentioned 9/11 truth. Whatever your feelings on that, the above methods (and many others) apply to anything officialdom want to cover up. I mean, they're not going to come right out and admit it are they? They have to find some way of covering up. Ridiculing doubters of the official story (of whatever the issue is) is just one classic tactic.
And for what it's worth I was genuinely outraged when I first someone suggest 9/11 was an inside job (not by the government incidentally, but by select military/industrial complex members). But then I had the guts to go and look at the evidence for and against. And let me tell you I am afraid it is conclusive. 9/11 was indeed an inside job - the evidence and facts leave no other possibility.
Anyway, be wary, VERY wary of people calling things "conspiracy theories" and what their agendas might be. Yeah I know, that's just my own little conspiracy theory, right?......right?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mulockAug 18, 2010
You can sit there and debate things as an outsider that may or may not be conspiracies... but you aren't doing anything to help anyone. You can scream, and promote dissidence but there is a wrong way and a right way to do it. The right way to do it is similar to Noam Chomsky... take real issues, and real facts and talk about them - Question them.
The wrong way to do it is to look at something which you have no proof for and apply some theory to it that is completely unfounded but that matches the mantra of government is evil. Yes, the government is oppressive... All governments have and probably always will be in some form - These patriots should really be screaming and shouting about the real issues and conspiracies. Like oh, I dont know... Corporate buy outs of government officials, and lobbyists. Corporate control of the government is far more real, evident and scary than the government controlling everything else. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jareddennisAug 18, 2010
10/10. A perfect example.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
blow me you truther piece of s**t. 9/11 explained:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
jsmithersAug 18, 2010
Great to see how you refuted me point by point there. Great analysis man.
/s
Come on. You know I'm right. Admit it to yourself. :)
darrelcAug 18, 2010
jsmithers: typical conspiritard defense. i'm rather surprised you didn't call him a shill or 'THATS WHAT THE WANT YOU TO BELIEVE'.
crazedleperAug 18, 2010
Bravo, Smithers. You ought to get fitted for a tin cap.
www.tincapjournal.blogspot.com
vbullingerAug 18, 2010
I hope that's not your journal.
It's not a very active blog...
Also, they reference Rense.com, a very antisemitic website. They have a whole David Duke section, for example:
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/dukeviddat.htm
And there's a million references to "Jew" on their homepage...
crazedleperAug 19, 2010
@vbullinger said:
"I hope that's not your journal."
It is.
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"It's not a very active blog..."
I know; I haven't been very prolific. Haven't been in a good place and i'm a lone gunman. I've started a bunch of articles but I like to explain everything and that makes my articles very long and also leaves me susceptible to writer's block. I'm still chipping away at a new article on 9/11 and planning some others. The things I have published were things I was highly motivated to get out at the time.
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"Also, they reference Rense.com, a very antisemitic website. They have a whole David Duke section, for example:"
Well, I'm not pro-jew and I know that Israel was in on 9/11. That said, I'm no fan of Duke, either. I have read some informative stuff on that site though my reference to it is not intended to fully support all their thinking.
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"And there's a million references to "Jew" on their homepage..."
I missed that and I'm really not sure if I would let it bother me much. I'm not going to support any kind of hard and fast ethnic cleansing policies but don't like any of what I've seen come out of Israel. One might expect them to have regarded the holocaust as a warning example, not an instruction manual.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lukas1051Aug 18, 2010
OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST, THE SPAWN OF SATAN AND OSAMA BIN LADEN, A RUSSIAN COMMUNIST LIZARDMAN SENT FROM MARS, LEADER OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND ILLUMINATI, HE IS THE MAN BEHIND 9/11 AND 2012 AND HE ABDUCTED ME IN HIS UFO AND HE'S HERE TO BRING THE APOCALYPSE!!! REPENT!!! PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST OUT SAVIOR, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US!!!
lukas1051Aug 18, 2010
If you think I was being serious then shame on you...
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
No, but what's obvious is you're trying to create a negative image of anybody who doesn't follow mainstream thinking through psycho babble. You are actually a conspirator to commit bullying.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kebwiAug 18, 2010
How am I supposed to know if you're being serious. Have you seen the posts on this site?
rkthoadanAug 18, 2010
I'm trying to decide who would star in this movie. I'm thinking Nicholas Cage for some reason.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
Nicholas Cage sucks
Only a hair better than Nickelback
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Oh look, it's a sheeple who follows the crowd to say what the rest of them do about Nickelback..
Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhhh Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
@asus
Read my other comments not very flock-like actually and I decided Nickelback sucked long before coming to Digg (though I do enjoy that people here hate them)
For the record, Kennedy assassination= Cover Up
magus_melchiorAug 18, 2010
@lukas1051: That's what the /s tag is for.
ultimisAug 18, 2010
All caps gets you a bury.
cakecakecake2Aug 18, 2010
you're laughing now, but we'll see who's laughing when a demon is shoving a pitchfork up your assh**e.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_SoHvYggo
falconearAug 18, 2010
You left out the reverse vampires and the Rand corporation.
sandiegofreewayAug 18, 2010
We're through the looking glass, people.
randomgorillaAug 18, 2010
Jesus, that looks too much like an email my grandma sent me a few weeks ago...
haz3rdAug 19, 2010
I think you covered just about everything.
apokalyps2547Aug 19, 2010
Best conspiracy theory ever to be submitted to digg: A long string of Presidents have signed executive orders that are enabling the Antichrist AND aliens help FEMA take over the world.
http://digg.com/politics/AMERICA_OFFICIALLY_ABOLISHED_THE_INDIVIDUAL_STATES_IN_1972
Second-best: Global climate change, vaccinations, birth control and Bill Gates are tied together in a massive eugenics conspiracy.
http://digg.com/politics/Bill_Gates_Use_vaccines_to_lower_population_4?t=31496786#c31549180
glassagateAug 19, 2010
I knew that he was a lizard man! Someone else knows the truth!
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
Actually, I thought you were Kasha for a second, Lukas!
kellydehnAug 18, 2010
The blue dress....Oh, wait.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Somehow I feel a huge sense of pride as a democrat that the best you can come up with to compare to these laughable paranoid theories is to dig Bill Clinton up from 11 years ago.
That makes me feel awesome.
Not to mention it has something to do with a head job and I think that's awesome too.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kellydehnAug 19, 2010
The best? No, maybe the funniest. It would have be funnier if he didn't think it was more important to get a bj, than being on time for a meeting on middle east peace. The other scandals link to that administration are for more sad. I guess some people have short memories. BTW, Hillary herself called it a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Machiavelli was the world's #1 conspiracy theorist..
randomguy2525Aug 18, 2010
I know someone who so bought into this junk that they spent thousands of dollars on survival junk and started hoarding water because they thought the USA was going into complete chaos years ago. Every month its "next week this is going to happen" and so on and so on, and when it doesn't happen its because the conspiracy theorists got the word out and the illuminati were too scared to go through with it. Swine flu vaccinations that would kill millions of Americans, the poisoned water, hundreds of thousands of foreign troops staying in peoples basements ready to leap.......
The worst part is that this person is historically intelligent, but just became so wrapped up in it that no logic can get through anymore. And all it takes is the slightest mention of some "source" with an insane theory and its believed. No logic, no explanation, its just solid fact at that moment.
And most of the people spreading this junk are in it for money, selling gold and survival equipment. If gold is about to become the only currency (because thats what I will want when the world is in ashes, gold!!!) then why are you selling it, sigh.
It drives me crazy, and I can't do anything to stop it. These idiots ruin peoples lives and the victims look on them as saviors.
phaedrynAug 18, 2010
The problem with conspiracy theories is that the grow. The HAVE to grow, there is no other option. Once you buy into one, any evidence that doesn't support it must be incorporated somehow. That leaves two options, show the evidence isn't valid or...include it in the conspiracy.
Worse, developing a conspiracy theory is as simple as asking questions. Watch most conspiracy videos and you will quickly see it's all about asking questions, then filling in the blanks with the answers that lead to the conclusion you want. It *looks* logical to someone who doesn't know any better, they watch it and think "wow, it's true", never realizing they are being lead down a trail to a predetermined conclusion. That’s the trap, and once they get to that point there is no turning back, no convincing them of the error...and so the conspiracy grows, and becomes more complex, and absurd, with time.
You can disprove any amount of their 'evidence' all you want, it wont make a difference.
They WANT to believe it.
onebeforezodAug 18, 2010
Inception.
chuckdontsurfAug 18, 2010
"The worst part is that this person is historically intelligent, but just became so wrapped up in it that no logic can get through anymore."
It's called paranoid schizophrenia. All kidding aside, I've seen this same thing happened to a friend of mine. Pretty soon he was convinced that aliens were implanting thoughts into his head.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dolomite808Aug 18, 2010
Can you prove that they weren't?
;)
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Stupid, uneducated people f**k themselves sometimes. That's the price you pay for being a f**king idiot.
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
well said, thanks.
stavrogin2Aug 18, 2010
Which isn't true. Trutherism is bipartisan stupidity, where some on the left think Bush knew and others on the right think the CIA knew. And the Iraq war was for oil. It certainly wasn't for the weapons of mass destruction, the purported reason, which had been propped up with known falsified evidence.
And none of that is comparable to the 60% of Republicans who think that Obama either is or could be a secret Kenyan.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Go back to sleep sheeple..
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
stop talking in your sleep
squirecdAug 19, 2010
Go back to sheep sleeple.
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
Go sheep to sleep backle...
Closed AccountAug 21, 2010
TO sleep back sheep gople.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Conspiracy theories = means people using their brains instead of accepting what they're told.
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
using your brain does not mean that you're using it correctly
cayfoxAug 18, 2010
The conspiracy theorists I've met have generally been smart people and passionate researchers. It's just a pity that they devote their energies to this kind of garbage rather than learning more formal approches to history, political theory and policy analysis.
Instead, they immerse themselves in the writings of people who really don't know anything and have no faculty for separating provable fact from wild speculation.
This in turn tends to fuel the worst sort of politics - demagogues who prey on the confusion and credulity of their audiences to advance very real political agendas. They don't care where their support comes from or whether there is any orthodoxy of belief within their movements, as long as they can corral a significant number of people to stand outside of government buildings with placards or vote for their guy in an election.
So in this respect, conspiracy theorists are the biggest sheep of all. Their ideas are built on fallacies that don't translate into reality, and as a result, don't have the power to change the world. They also don't seem to realise how vulnerable they are to being co-opted into the service of cynical and unscrupulous people, who would have a hard time selling their agendas if they were at all honest about them and didn't have a bunch of credulous boobs for followers.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
@Cayfox: The Lusitania truthers were called "conspiracy theorists" until they were proven right. The Gulf Of Tonkin truthers were called "conspiracy theorists" until they were proven right. The 9-11 truthers are also right.
If you want to learn through "more formal approaches", I suggest you start with "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli. Once you understand that false flags are the norm, and not the exception, then maybe you'll start to understand how the world works. But if you want a big eye opener, then study Edward Bernays, Freud's American nephew who openly admitted to centralizing government propaganda.
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randomguy2525Aug 18, 2010
I dont accepts what Im told at face value. I consider the logic and motives that would be behind something, look at the evidence and come to the best conclusion I can.
Anyone who believes the majority of these conspiracies either chooses not to do so or is not smart enough to do so. Most of them blindly believe some guy peddling survival gear who has secret sources he can't divulge or a random forum post "leaking" information.
I bet if I took a couple hours to come up with a conspiracy theory out of thin air I could post it on a few conspiracy sites and have hundreds believing it.
darrelcAug 18, 2010
I've actually thought of doing this. then every conspiracy I came up with alex jones has already reported on lol
randomguy2525Aug 18, 2010
Yes, hundreds of idiots. Thats the point. The article included 9/11, but obviously I'm speaking about people who buy into to people who buy into all the chemtrail nonsense and further. I'd like to see the thousands of scientists that really think theres anything to that.
And while there may be engineers who think 9/11 was a conspiracy, do you not think there are 10x as many that don't think it was?
phaedrynAug 18, 2010
"I've actually thought of doing this. then every conspiracy I came up with alex jones has already reported on lol"
It sucks, all the good conspiracies are taken!
crunchdiggAug 18, 2010
that might make a LITTLE sense of each conspiracy nut came up with their own conspiracies to worry about. As it is, they just make a bad choice of who to believe unthinkingly.
funkylokiAug 18, 2010
Using an "=", then following it with the word "means" is redundant, which is probably as indicative of your stupidity as the rest of your comments.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Typo.
Non-conspiracy theorists without any argument need to resort to name calling and finding typos..
LMAO
nolibrariansAug 18, 2010
This is true. Just go to any CFL rally or check out the Daily Nut. Just about everyone on the Ron Paul wing of the far-right believes in at least a few of these theories. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
sabin8Aug 18, 2010
1/10, your trolling is not impressive.
waiting2awakeAug 18, 2010
but it is consistent...
boneheadfarkerAug 18, 2010
What the hell does Canadian football have to do with any of this? Unless the Argonauts have been sabotaging the Leafs for the past 30 years in a bid to turn people away from hockey and onto football...that I can believe...
waiting2awakeAug 18, 2010
Nah the Leafs do enough on their own to make people want to turn away from Hockey...
artosrcAug 18, 2010
Nothing about wanting to enact a socialist/Marxist/communist/fascist dictatorship, eh? That alone is deserving of, well, thirty spots on a ten-spot list.
aadainAug 18, 2010
Actually I think that is lumped into the martial law conspiracies. Same illogical, fear induced idea, just a different face & method. They've been worrying about this one for decades before Obama was even on the political map.
rpatrick819Aug 18, 2010
#1 Left conspiracy theory - the government can give you free money to encourage bad behavior, and it's really free! Totally not taken from someone else at all, and it totally helps the economy!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
#1 Right wing conspiracy theory:
"You can drop out of high school and make fun of people who go to college, demonize books and intellectualism and all you have to do is watch Fox News 2 hours per night to gain the same amount of knowledge as those who get graduate degrees from prestigious universities."
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
by joining Glenn Back University
markglAug 18, 2010
Sorry I never heard of the 9/11 as Government Plot on the right. Someone's trying to really work hard at making the left look good! Actually never heard of half of these really. I guess they're not that important for anyone of us to even care what crazies think.
jareddennisAug 18, 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
markglAug 18, 2010
Like I said, I don't care about the crazies.
o76923Aug 18, 2010
the article isn't about what the mainstream rational people think. It's about what crazies (on both ends of the spectrum) think.
tman84Aug 18, 2010
What about the Clintons and the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" isn't that one of the wackiest conspiracy theories of all time?
wilywondrAug 18, 2010
Have you heard of fox "news" ?
skywiseAug 18, 2010
Have you heard of media "matters"?
tman84Aug 18, 2010
Oh I get it now. It's different when it's the left making claims.
diggchinasworldAug 19, 2010
have you ever heard of:
Daily Kos?
Huff Po?
Moveon.org?
thinkprogress?
cbs news? (see: dan rather)
trexorAug 18, 2010
I don't know exactly what you mean but Rupert Murdoch was supporting Hillary Clinton's run for president.
fordsvt1Aug 18, 2010
If it isn't patently obvious that a group of Republicans conspired to investigate Clinton on anything and everything until they could nail him for it, I don't know what to say to you. They spent tens of millions of dollars trying to get him for being a rapist, a money launderer, a thief, a cheater, and then after all of that was investigated by scum bags like Ken Starr they settled for lying about getting a BJ because they couldn't get him on ANYTHING else. They had a truly irrational hatred of that man, even before he got into office.
And then we have the people saying Clinton had 60-something people murdered to cover his tracks, there's a rational bunch for you.
skittlesusaAug 18, 2010
I don't know any far right-wingers that believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, but know many left-wing 9/11 truthers, and the same applies to the New World Order conspiracy theory.
The left has a monopoly on conspiracy theories. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
waiting2awakeAug 18, 2010
No political side has a monopoly on the foolish.
skittlesusaAug 18, 2010
It is true that no side has a monopoly on foolishness, but conspiracy theories are exponentially more prevalent on the left than right.
malexAug 18, 2010
Dear SkittlesUSA;
Death Panels.
The Amero.
Evil Victory Mosque at Ground Zero.
The Gay Agenda.
Obama's a Secret Islamic Kenyan In League With Al-Qaeda and Bill Ayers.
Al Gore Made Up Global Warming.
George Soros Controls Everything.
Hollywood Communists.
Satanic Rock Music.
... Shall I go on?
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
Mutant dolphin crabs?!?!
skittlesusaAug 18, 2010
Leftists believe the government was responsible for 9/11.
Sorry, but you can't come back from that, even with your made-up "conspiracy theories."Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
/thread.
Skittle shut down like the uneducated right wing shill he is.
jareddennisAug 18, 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
'New World Order' is probably bipartisan loony, I also see it associated a lot with the One World Government folks on the right
paraswarmAug 18, 2010
While reading through the article, I came across the quote from a conspiracy theorist calling Clinton "Comrade Clinton"... and then I sighed after realizing how far we haven't come in the last 15 years.
isuzu14bAug 18, 2010
I am so glad that digg knows that conspiracies NEVER happen.
haz3rdAug 19, 2010
Of course they do, but if it involves the NWO, it's not true.
atomheartmotherAug 18, 2010
"If UFO sightings are easily explained, how does the belief encompass a wide swath of the population? Unsurprisingly, belief in UFOs and the paranormal is correlated with lower intelligence and increased emotionality: The survey also revealed that theological liberals are more apt to believe in the paranormal [includes UFOs] and the occult than do conservatives. Women (35 percent), blacks (41 percent), those younger than 30 (40 percent), Democrats (40 percent) and singles who are cohabitating (49 percent) were more likely to believe"
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-people-believe-in-ufos.html
Oh gosh....
ironhideAug 18, 2010
Oh gosh, the belief in UFOs and paranormal also doesn't do anyone any harm, does it?
For the record, while I believe that there is indeed life on other worlds, the likelihood of contact is so remote as to be basically non-existent, and I quit believing in ghosts when I gave up Casper cartoons.
atomheartmotherAug 18, 2010
"I quit believing in ghosts when I gave up Casper cartoons."
Well you're no only a pretty bright guy you're also a pragmatist, so that's no surprise.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Good try lefties, Most people who believe these hated Bush too.
waiting2awakeAug 18, 2010
and applied them all to Bush, but that level of intellectual honesty doesn't fit the partisan trolls that are after anything conservative...
mulockAug 18, 2010
You can sit there and debate things as an outsider that may or may not be conspiracies... but you aren't doing anything to help anyone. You can scream, and promote dissidence but there is a wrong way and a right way to do it. The right way to do it is similar to Noam Chomsky... take real issues, and real facts and talk about them - Question them.
The wrong way to do it is to look at something which you have no proof for and apply some theory to it that is completely unfounded but that matches the mantra of government is evil. Yes, the government is oppressive... All governments have and probably always will be in some form - These patriots should really be screaming and shouting about the real issues and conspiracies. Like oh, I dont know... Corporate buy outs of government officials, and lobbyists. Corporate control of the government is far more real, evident and scary than the government controlling everything else.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
It's actually the libertarians who are the biggest conspiracy theorists. Libertarians fall in the middle between left and right wings.
malexAug 18, 2010
No, *moderates* fall in the middle between left and right wings. Libertarianism is a predominantly Conservative philosophy, even though conflicts with many aspects of Social Conservatism and the Republican party.
The entire "left-right" political spectrum is a gross oversimplification anyway, and hasn't been terribly useful since the court of King Louis XVI where it was invented.
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
Wrong. Look at any of these: http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1920&bih=930&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=libertarian+chart&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
vegetablelambAug 18, 2010
...all based on one person's chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart
magus_melchiorAug 18, 2010
If your response to malex is "wrong", you're not reading the Nolan Chart correctly.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
I hate it when people demonize Libertarians as "conspiracy theorists" when almost every well known libertarian denounces conspiracy theorists constantly. Matt Stone, Trey Parker, Penn Jillette, etc.
Or maybe its a conspiracy trying to hold down Libertarians... /s
asus3000Aug 18, 2010
I wasn't demonizing myself. I'm a libertarian, and a hard-core conspiracy theorist... Most of my friends are too. We believe it's pretty much all being controlled.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
Oh I get your message now my bad. You meant that since they weren't fringe on either side that they weren't crazy. Got it, ya I posted below about how calling all conspiracy theorists nuts is retarded. My bad man
avengingturnipAug 18, 2010
What's this? Oh, a left wing circle jerk.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
Ooh, ooh, where's my raincoat?!
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Clearly you know all about circle jerks because you've participated in so many right wing activities in your time.
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
Look at everyone getting so uppity about left-wing or right-wing... jeez it's like politics for infants. I can't believe people buy into this bulls**t.
wf80diditAug 18, 2010
That entire list and they only mentioned Alex Jones once and NONE of his websites or 30 some docs that cover said conspiracies ad-infinitum?
richmomzAug 18, 2010
They don't dare give him more publicity. Although I don't agree with a lot of his "conclusions" on many of the topics he brings up, he does raise a lot of interesting issues that the rest of the media isn't willing to touch with a 10-foot pole.
avengingturnipAug 18, 2010
No kidding. If Alternet started sending traffic to Alex Jones it might not come back. At the very least the quality of the articles is much much better.
vbullingerAug 18, 2010
^^ That's not saying much, turnip. My dog could write more insightful "articles..."
avengingturnipAug 18, 2010
Notwithstanding that OleOleOleson guy who is the greatest investigative reporter of all time, of course.
kent4jmjAug 18, 2010
Jones' documentation has become quite good. The fact that he could say "I told ya about that, and that, and that one too, shows a history with a track record that is proving itself to be both true and impressive.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
Yep. I don't care for his radio show ranting sometimes, but his news websites (infowars and prisonplanet) usually have a lot of good, well-researched and interesting material and some of his movie documentaries are excellent (Endgame and The Obama Deception in particular).
kent4jmjAug 18, 2010
The reputation as a tinfoiler kept me away for quite awhile but I kept coming across his stories and the track record has made me take a second look. I like what I see. His style is problematic. But is it any worse than Olberman's? He also seems to use a methodology of circumstantial evidence vs. direct correlation. Yet his conclusions are made as if there were a direct correlation. Sometimes there is. The other thing to remember is that circumstantial evidence is legitimate and a basis for conclusions. It can convict in a court of law. Administration officials who wrote highly whacked white papers or who showed a real sympathy with those did is highly problematic. A president who sat in the pews while a preacher ranted like a nut job is also pretty damning.
vbullingerAug 18, 2010
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wf80diditAug 19, 2010
Your channel = bookmarked, cool stuff bro
infinitewithinAug 18, 2010
Almost all 10 conspiracy theories they listed are actually happening.
That's according to members' of Congress.
wf80diditAug 18, 2010
I love this article. Basically it says there has never been a legitimate conspiracy theory. Jim Meigs of Popular Mechanics has debunked everything. And if you believe in one, you are part of the right-wing nutjob camp.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
2. Martial Law: Google REX 84
3. FEMA Concentration Camps: See above
5. 'Door-to-Door' Gun Confiscations: No conspiracy here, this actually happened during Katrina and is well-documented.
6. 9/11 as Government Plot: there's absolutely nothing that links the government to 9/11. There *are* a lot of unexplained things about what happened that day. And you have to admit that the WTC 7 collapse looks a little iffy - even the government's own NIST report admitted that they couldn't explain how it was structurally possible for it to collapse under the conditions it was under (fire, mostly).
7. Population Control: Read John Holdren's (our current "Science Czar") book on Ecoscience where it talks about putting sterilants in the water and forced abortions and tell me that s**t doesn't creep you out just a little. You can pull up some choice sample pages with a simple google search. As for fluoride, many countries do not allow using it as an additive due to documented health concerns. Considering that most over-the-counter toothpaste brands already have fluoride there's not much reason to add it to water for dental purposes anyway.
9. The Federal Reserve Conspiracy: No conspiracy and has nothing to do with antisemitism. It's a privately owned and controlled organization with the power to print money with *no* public oversight. (Recall Bernanke's recent testimony when he was asked who the fed gave 2 trillion dollars to and why and he just flat refused to tell them anything - Congress could do nothing about it). Read "The Creature from Jeckyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin and prepare to have your mind blown wide open.
10. The North American Union: Not really a conspiracy in the sense that there's a serious push to allow easier trade and movement of populations between Canada, US and Mexico, and similarly strong opposition among the establishment towards any sort of border or immigration enforcement.
Finally, just remember that history is replete with examples of backroom dealing and shady plots, and government itself is really not much more than a controlled conspiracy among powerful insiders in many cases (even in democracies) - to assume things have changed in the last few decades is a bit naive I think.
NoRand2010Aug 18, 2010
Wasn't it Bush who declared Martial Law and canceled the 08 elections?
nozionistsAug 18, 2010
Whachyou talkin' 'bout?
Closed AccountAug 18, 2010
There's far more danger of ignorance these days than people believing in fairy tales. I'm always aghast at why people get angry at others for questioning things. A few years ago questioning whether Iraq really did have WMD despite everyone saying they did and thats that may have saved us from a war.
When Bush was in power many of you wanted to question most of it. And now you don't?
So what is a more pragmatic way of acting. Everything you are told is true. (until the media tells you differently) or things you are told may or may not be true and you are allowed to follow it up on your own and figure it out for yourself.
Some of the ignorance on this page is just as painful as it was 6 years ago. :-/
nolibrariansAug 18, 2010
You're worse than I thought you were. You really need to seek help Richmond.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
11. The "No" brigade...
webchrisAug 18, 2010
The problem is, if someone on the left says something crazy, he gets branded a nutcase. If someone on the right says something crazy, he gets his own TV show.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
brain1Aug 18, 2010
There no Right Wingers Ive ever seen ever talk about any of these Topics...These "Top 10 Right Wing Conspiracy Topics", have no presence in the Right Wing...This Story is BS.
Barack Obama's Citizenship is a Right Wing Conspiracy Theory..Thats all Glen Beck ever talks about..Why isnt that on the List.
Also the "Obama is a Communist"claim. Why isnt that on this list?...What Crap!!!
ultimisAug 18, 2010
"Barack Obama's Citizenship is a Right Wing Conspiracy Theory"
While it has a base on the right wing, it orginated from a democrat.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
This is clearly not a case of right wing left wing bs. Its a group of people who are overly paranoid but have *some* valid questions. This idea today that conspiracies cannot happen is almost more absurd than the chemtrails theory. The gun confiscation one is the one I have the biggest problem with being on this list. Over time immemorial, if a dictator or totalitarian government was going to start up the first thing they did was disarm the populace they seek to control, e.g. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro... The list continues far past modern times. I'm not saying that Obama is going to do it just that it has happened
Conspiracies can and do happen, the completely absurd ones on here obviously don't, but I can think of more than one occasion of such a conspiracy in the past that has been exposed on a grand scale such as Watergate. I bet people in 1933 said "Oh you crazy conspiracy theorist! Hitler our great leader would NEVER try to eradicate the Jews and take over all of Europe! Secret police??? You are nuts!" I understand the difference between some of these theories and that last example but the point is stuff like this can happen, that doesn't mean believe everything you hear but if you hear someone say something that isn't a mainstream idea don't just ignore everything they say because "Oh they must be nuts!"
P.S. I have come to a conclusion about the 9/11 attacks. There are so many wierd coincidences and unanswered questions, that it simply cannot be a cover-up. Bush jokes aside, I'm pretty sure my 14 year old brother could cover that up better. That and I don't see any reasonable motive for the government to do that.
richmomzAug 18, 2010
"I have come to a conclusion about the 9/11 attacks. There are so many wierd coincidences and unanswered questions, that it simply cannot be a cover-up."
That's kind of my view as well. People automatically assume that because there are unanswered questions that the government was responsible and that is an unfortunate "leap of logic" to make.
Although there are clearly tons of unanswered questions and downright weird things that happened that day, none of it points conclusively to any particular party being responsible (including Bin Laden according to the FBI). There are questions about how those buildings collapsed (WTC 7 particularly, even NIST admitted they couldn't explain how a fire could have caused complete structural failure, something that's never happened in 100+ years of steel high-rise architectural history); there are questions about who might have been responsible, and there are questions about who might have had a motive to bend or cover up the truth.
The answers are limited to what little information is available in the public domain, and your own imagination.
zaynexzandersAug 18, 2010
And when you get into your own imagination is when you should be labeled crazy (not before but thats what happens to most). The most telling part of the 9/11 not being done by the government is the lack of motive. "But Bush wanted to finish daddy's job" or "It was for the oil!!" are both ridiculous. Firstly, he wouldn't have needed a terrorist attack to invade Iraq, Saddam Hussein had commited a list of atrocities that is absolutely unbelievable. Secondly, If they wanted oil so badly they could've started actually going after the unbelievably large and untapped oil supplies throughout the US and Canada that would be far cheaper than the oil supplies in the Middle East to produce and anyone who says that isn't true doesn't know anything about business. I refuse to believe that George Bush or Dick Cheney or anyone in the government could ever be that greedy and corrupt.
It is more likely that South Park is right; Bush and Cheney were the ones that started the conspiracy theories to make the public think the government could actually accomplish something lol
hnic17Aug 18, 2010
Dugg for reference to "The International Jew"
anonymousmedicAug 18, 2010
These people who believe and promote these conspiracy theories are the Sheeple they accuse everyone else of being.