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philperspectiveAug 15, 2010Submitter
Fiorina will be another Palin endorsed goof to go down to defeat. Anyone know how the Tea Party, and Palin backed, primary challenge to Lisa Murkowski is doing? Last I heard, really poorly.
woodsjransomAug 15, 2010
Lets see if this list can grow Phil, let us add Karen Handel the republican gubernatorial candidate from red state GA who was endorsed by polly palin and LOST.
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
I think WaPo has a list going. Let me try to find it.
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
Here ya' go:
Palin Endorsement Tracker:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/palin_tracker/
woodsjransomAug 15, 2010
Thanks, I should have known they already had something like this.
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
I wrote something the other day on this; the media touts her inaccurately as a kingmaker -- but they have to keep pushing their narrative of her as worthy of eyeballs because she sells.
jdenzerAug 16, 2010
It's sad that this kind of media attention exists. And The Washington Posts actually tracks it.
Senate House Governor Fund raising Battlegrounds Palin Tracker
What is wrong with that picture?
superkendallAug 16, 2010
She has a batter than 50% success rate so far, which is pretty good considering some of the candidates she has endorsed have been really small fish compared to the mainstream candidates.
Can we see the comparative Clinton success rate?
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Don't forget NH where the Palin endorsement lowered the AG running for Senate's appeal.
akchrsAug 16, 2010
And you think Palin endorsing someone other than Lisa Murkowski had nothing to do with the fact that she beat her father on his re-election for governor. What a big shocker she endorsed someone else. <face palm>
cosmicsurferAug 15, 2010
Carly fits right in with the Bachmann Palin Overkill - she lies and her campaign lies about her...she is buying a senate seat if she can and will assist in running what is left of the country into the ground like her cohorts who have purchased power in other states...
soc7Aug 15, 2010
"most business commentators consider Fiorina’s tenure at HP to be a disaster"
That was always my take on things.
brucealmightyAug 16, 2010
HP was willing to pay her over $20M just to go away. That kind of business experience is nothing to brag about.
graccusAug 16, 2010
I think her time as CEO can be summarized by one thing: "The Apple iPod by HP"
She took one of the most storied, innovative engineering firms in Silicon Valley and turned it into a reseller of printer ink and iPods.
captobliviousAug 16, 2010
That is the most succinct statement of he tenure at HP that anyone could hope for.
Nicely said graccus, nicely said.
alheithinnAug 15, 2010
More of the same. Say stuff is true makes it true and the masses swoon. A leader! A leader! Follow! Follow! Maybe they all want to take after Bush and lead us into the s**tter.
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
haha, Geeze-- I need to put down my coffee before reading your responses.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
The most mindboggling thing about this is that she's spending $1.5 million to buy the governor's office.
I mean, not the presidential office (which will be for sale soon enough) but for a GOVERNOR's post.
CA should just sell it to her outright and take the money. She'll win anyway. People love rich folks and rich folks love power. No matter how embarrassing it is, it'll happen unfortunately.
Everything in the USA is for sale. Especially political posts.
bt100Aug 16, 2010
Wrong gal? Whitman is running for governor, Fiorina is challenging Barbara Boxer.
I think we should sell HER to some company in China desperately in need of a CEO. We'd profit both ways.
brucealmightyAug 16, 2010
You're confusing this year's crop of bimbo candidates. Carly has "only" put in $5 or 6 million of her own into her campaign so far for the run for Senator from CA. The price for the Governor's office is considerably steeper. So far Meg Whitman has put over $100M of her own money into that campaign. That's not a typo...it's actually $103M as of the latest report.
Personally I figure anyone who spends that much of their own money to finance a campaign for a State office has cleared demonstrated that they have no more "business sense" than a c**ker spaniel.....
canadianmacfanAug 16, 2010
With the current state that California is in I don't know why anyone would want to be governor let alone spend over $100 million to get the job. I wonder what Arnold would be willing to spend in order to leave office sooner.
bicolanoAug 16, 2010
You're thinking of Meg Whitman, who's running for California governor. I think it's more mind-boggling that she has vowed to spend up to $150 million, not the paltry sum of $1.5 million you quoted. So far, I think she's spent more than $100 million on her own campaign, having contributed an additional $13 million just yesterday or the day before. Must be nice to be able to think you can buy anything.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
$100+ million to buy one job for herself, when millions of unemployed in California are desperate for just one job.
There's all sorts of irony in that.
u2canfailAug 15, 2010
I am most surely against anyone or anything any T bag likes or endorses. It is just that simple.
Look at them: Bachman: takes federal farm subsidies, your tax dollars
Palin: the earmark queen, your tax dollars
Tancredo: openly racist.
Williams: openly racist
need I say more?
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
Excellent points.We should rename them the Orwellian Party.
captobliviousAug 16, 2010
Also, start calling the "right wing" the "wrong wing".
cosmicsurferAug 16, 2010
Don't forget Ken Buck in Colorado - Tancredo is running for governor
u2canfailAug 16, 2010
The list is too long. The T is filled with crazies.
At the local level the T's I have met are nuts! They us the "FREE HEALTHCARE" at the ER. They would not even acknowledge tax dollars pick up that tab. It is free, they kept saying, healthcare at the ER is free. Keep on using the most expensive health care system in the US, the ER.
timelessbwAug 16, 2010
I agree, there is a tea partier in my state running for gov, i will either vote independent or dem. I have to look into it more to deceide.
pocketjacksAug 16, 2010
Don't forget Rand "Whites Only Restaurants are OK" Paul!
heystoopidAug 15, 2010
hablar del diablo
mbtriaAug 15, 2010
Fiorina managed to take two respected companies that manufactured computers, HP and Compaq, and turn them into an absolute mess. HP printers, once top of the line, became disasters. Worse as far as I was concerned, was that I lost trust for HP laboratory equipment, which was once considered to be top rate. The woman was fired or forced to resign. She should have never been CEO of HP, and certainly should not be elected to political office.
w1cked1Aug 16, 2010
how's she get those jobs in the first place?
ruckfulesAug 16, 2010
The way many other incompetent, "successful" people got their positions: nepotism.
daveruizAug 16, 2010
In America, you fail upwards.
mbtriaAug 15, 2010
Mama grizzlies. What a joke. Howler monkeys and whiny mosquitoes is more like it.
freedomjoeAug 15, 2010
OMG. Another great comment! So funny:-)
cosmicsurferAug 16, 2010
I go with the Shrieking Harpies but then I have too much respect for native wildlife than to equate these whiny shriekers to anything natural
zoshchenkoAug 16, 2010
Most California voters won't care. These two women "executives" will out-spend each other with far right protests and no one will bother to check if anything they say has the least shred of truth behind it. Once you're in the exalted CEO Club of America, you can't be kicked out.
kennykljAug 16, 2010
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alucardthegreatAug 16, 2010
Carly Fiorina. She screwed up H-P, now she wants to do the same to California.
zarrel40Aug 16, 2010
This should be her slogan.
stillhateyouAug 16, 2010
She's running for the US Senate... it's not just California she wants to f**k up, but the entire country.
canadianmacfanAug 16, 2010
How will Californians tell the difference? I thought it pretty much was screwed up now with their financial problems.
arschgaudiAug 16, 2010
Looks like the libtards have created another Palin story in an attempt to deflect focus from Barry "The Mosque Lovin" Obama. Gotta hand it to Black Bush, he done f**ked himself good with his back peddlin on the Mosque and his drive by vacation in the Gulf.
Hat's off Barry.....Hope and Change in on the way.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ironhideAug 16, 2010
Wow, you make no sense at all.
libertarianslolAug 16, 2010
rofl
vogonpoetAug 16, 2010
Move to a Theocracy if you don't like religious freedom you Constitution-hating Nathan Bedford Forest lover.
arschgaudiAug 16, 2010
Religious freedom is great. A dumbs**t president that panders and waffles is a joke.
orlandogeekAug 16, 2010
Except you're advocating for religious freedom for everyone except Muslims who also happen to be Americans.
particleman420Aug 16, 2010
i know, what a scumbag standing up for the first amendment.
like the constitution matters or anywathing
bt100Aug 16, 2010
Black Bush? That turns me on for strange reasons...
soc7Aug 16, 2010
Got me hot.
soc7Aug 16, 2010
Do your knuckles drag on the ground when you walk? Just wondering.
jdenzerAug 16, 2010
Awww how cute arschgaudi made a funny. Ok, arschgaudi go play with your red truck, the grown-ups are talking now. Mommy and daddy will be in, to tuck you in later.
But seriously, why is it every time arschgaudi posts a comment, I picture him/her sitting next to a bunch of children's refrigerator magnets. Scrambling them up to come up with their responses.
orlandogeekAug 16, 2010
Why do you hate the Constitution?
zarrel40Aug 16, 2010
Why does a Sarah Palin endorsement matter? She f**ked her parties chance of winning the presidential election and couldn't even finish her term as governor.
tryptomineAug 16, 2010
She didn't lose the election for them, it was all them minoraties votin up Hussein Obama. She was such a wonderful Governer that there was no way she could stay in the backwater state, shes gots higher callings to go to.
(I hate having to put /s, but that felt a little too close to reality for comfort. And that's what really scares me.)
soc7Aug 16, 2010
Intelligent people acting irrationally is the only thing that really scares me anymore.
cfuseAug 16, 2010
Because it acts as a negative buff on any unit upon which it is cast.
bt100Aug 16, 2010
As a Californian, I'm begging you, put us out of our misery.
If I catch one more Fiorina or Whitman ad when I'm trying to watch the news or Mad Men... I will strap myself with multiple terror babies and walk into a crowded, classy dining establishment. >:(
trashyamericanAug 16, 2010
more white trash? where are these disgusting people coming from
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
they came from uranus
w1cked1Aug 16, 2010
The reason I think they do this is, and I hate to see it, but women are ruled by their emotions, thinking hurts the brain. Put up a woman to vote for and the women will vote for her. That's a gian portion of the vote "stolen" from the opponent, even if you stand no chance whatsoever in winning. Just another divisive tactic.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cosmicsurferAug 16, 2010
You forgot the /s....
If not, then some sexist assh**e must have dosed you when you weren't looking.
w1cked1Aug 16, 2010
No, there's no /s.... look at you tho, reacting emotionally, case in point. Try using your f**king head and think of the logic behind it. There IS some.
lphchldAug 16, 2010
Wasn't Fiorina named on one of the worst CEOs in American history?
magnumxAug 16, 2010
Who knows, but I remember that she made the problems we had will Dell and Apple still look minimalist in our organization (and that was when we had a bunch of motherboard failures in the optiplex line). We also didn't purchase HP printers again till this year. Too many were having "warranty end failure" synchronicity for our taste. They seem to finally be on the comeback trail now.
soc7Aug 16, 2010
Cannon only since my last HP a few years back. POS.
elcadAug 16, 2010
Yes, she was by name one of the all time worst by Condé Nast Portfolio.
Also anyone who own HP stock at the time would surely agree, since she wiped away half of HP's value during her tenure. The best thing she ever did for HP was getting fired, since the news of departure caused the price of the stock to rocket up to 10%.
Fiorina also made the list of InfoWorld's Tech's all-time top 25 flops. She was the human on the list.
jdenzerAug 16, 2010
#19
http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/may/14/slide-show-1-worlds-20-worst-ceos.htm
tombkillaAug 16, 2010
Mirror for those who are having problems http://rorr.im/digg.com/political_opinion/palin_s_mama_grizzly_with_a_skeleton_in_her_closet/
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
jesus christ even the f**king mirror is down
tombkillaAug 16, 2010
Give it 20 minutes :)
lnmagicAug 16, 2010
I think Digg should automatically have a rorr.im button in its toolbar.
endgameAug 16, 2010
Yea, as usual we dont have a lot of good choice for our elected officials. But it's really time for Boxer to go she has been an awful senator the last couple of terms. Lets get some new blood in there, rather than the same old hacks.
superkendallAug 16, 2010
You're right about Boxer, but that's a different race...
ouzeAug 16, 2010
The most mind-boggling part of this race is I can't scarcely imagine a job less desirable then governor of California.
nihilvilleAug 16, 2010
She's not running for Governor, but rather for Boxer's Senate seat.
Of course, we have millionaire, ex-CEO, bimbot losers running for both seats in California and their policy positions are both so predictably and toxically right wing any confusion between the two of them is fairly understandable.
erisAug 16, 2010
Typical GOP spin. It seems like just a few years ago she was the laughing stock of the tech world.
mankind121Aug 16, 2010
Yeah how quickly people forget when someone almost destroys an entire corporation
mrmagosAug 16, 2010
No, not just one, but two entire corporations (well, brands technically) - HP and Compaq.
vexuAug 16, 2010
I'm definately voting for Fiorina.
Why?
Well, if you live in California, can you actually buy this bulls**t?
http://boxer.senate.gov/en/issues-legislation/
Boxer has been in office since 1982. She has done nothing. Period. Not a damn thing.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Get your facts straight. Boxer was elected in 1992, not 1982, and she's authored quite a few bills.
She was also brave enough to vote against the Iraq war and the Federal Surveillance Act (FISA).
vexuAug 16, 2010
She started as a Rep from Marin in 1982. That is a fact.
enforcererikAug 16, 2010
I am pretty damn liberal. I think Boxer has made some really bad decisions, unfortunately Fiorina would still be a much worse decision.
elcadAug 16, 2010
I'd rather have someone do nothing then to hire someone with a proven track record of running things into the ground.
lnmagicAug 16, 2010
Sarah Palin is just a Democratic conspiracy aimed at destroying the Republican party, and it's working.
zenmojoAug 16, 2010
Anybody awake a few years ago knows that Carly Fiorina f**ked HP and did a horrible job. It's just that no one in the news even wants to bring it up.
Which is funny, since her face was on television every day talking about how she f**kED EVERYTHING UP.
312139Aug 16, 2010
She practically ran HP into the ground, and it's no secret. That's not a skeleton in the closet, that's a skeleton out where everyone can see it.
chuckdeesAug 16, 2010
Only freaking corporations would consider a failed CEO a success. I guess as long you outsource as many jobs as possible. The share holders will consider you a great CEO.
superkendallAug 16, 2010
I agree she didn't do HP any favors. But you honestly instead want to vote in someone instead who is double-dipping on government pensions as Brown is?
llotzafunAug 16, 2010
While taking a business ethics class for my MA, we talked quite a bit about how much of a b!tch this woman was and she single handedly, put the woman's executive movement at least a few years back.
fullbackAug 16, 2010
I wish all politicians, and those who aspire to be slimy politicians, contract some horrible disease that causes them excruciating pain like the rest of get when we're forced to read and hear their nonsense every single day in every single newspaper, every single magazine, every single TV station and every single radio station.
I want a politician-free zone where people can live free and flourish without them.
bobothekingAug 16, 2010
While I stand opposed to nearly every Republican policy, I can't help but admire (and fear) how lock-stepped they've run campaigns and the success it's brought them in the past. However, I think that heads will ultimately roll in the Republican party leadership over the decision to actively take on Barbara Boxer's Senate seat. It's an awful strategy.
This is a little bit like their delusion that Pennsylvania was a swing state in the presidential election. Pennsylvania has a fair mix of Democrats and Republicans, but the Democrats have consistently come out in larger numbers and by healthy (though not landslide) margins. No one in their right mind thought Pennsylvania would go to McCain, so campaign events there were essentially wasted.
The same goes for California. Although there is a lot of discontent over Congress's performance, Barbara Boxer remains fairly popular among Californians and there's no particular reason to remove her from office. Republicans have been stoking dissatisfaction with Congress, but I don't see them giving any good reasons to blame Boxer in particular.
What's worse is that even if their plan does work (and I don't suspect it will), they will have captured the *least powerful* senate seat. To win a senate seat in California, you have to win over roughly five million voters. To win a senate seat in New Hampshire, which is also facing a close election, requires winning just 250,000 votes. Both seats would give the Republicans one vote in the Senate, but it's clear which is easiest to win. By pouring money into populous states with difficult contests, the Republicans are allowing the Democrats to remain competitive in smaller states.
I think the Republicans will gain seats in the House and Senate in November, but not nearly the numbers they expect and in retrospect, they will point to their wasteful California campaign as a key factor in coming up short. Whoever pushed the idea of competing against Barbara Boxer will lose their position.
rentalcanoeAug 16, 2010
February 2005: Fiorina Fired By Hewlett-Packard Board. According to the Associated Press, "Carly Fiorina's nearly six-year reign at Hewlett-Packard Co. ended abruptly Wednesday as board members forced her out, disappointed by her inability to transform a plodding technology giant dominated by printer sales into a more nimble innovator. H-P's stock, which has gone nowhere for two years and is down two-thirds from its peak in 2000, rose almost 7 percent after earlier soaring almost 11 percent on the news of her ouster." [Associated Press, 2/9/05]
Fiorina Offered More Style Than Substance During Tenure As Head Of HP. According to Fortune, "In the midst of all the competitive pressures bearing down on her, and in the struggle of managing the unwieldy company she created, Carly Fiorina sometimes talks as if she sees a vision all her own. She hauls it out in the opening lines of internal speeches, articulating her goal of making HP 'the world's leading technology company.' The ambition is a curiosity rouser because it implies that she has firmly in mind what company right now holds that title. But that turns out not to be true. ... But then, you wonder, if she doesn't know who the leader is now, how would she know whom HP has to pass and when to claim victory?" [Fortune, 2/7/05]