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benthedogJul 7, 2010
But . . . but . . . but, the birth certificate! I saw it on the Innertubes!
hortnonJul 8, 2010
Which is still more proof than someone just declaring he was born in Kenya from a news source no one's heard of before.
dcodreaJul 7, 2010
Pretty instructive to note that just asking why he doesn't produce the actual hospital document filled out at the time of his birth results in orchestrated ridicule, and that no one in the mainstream media acts like that should be a concern.
hortnonJul 8, 2010
Are you saying you don't trust the state of Hawaii?
vbullingerJul 7, 2010
I'm actually trying to avoid the "birther" issue and I'm actively trying not to be a "birther," but I feel like if I actually investigated it, there might be something there. His grandma said he was born in Kenya, his wife said it, this paper said it years before it was an issue and he has a very secretive, fishy past, including renouncing US citizenship. Again, I'm not even trying to look for this stuff.
raycheetahJul 7, 2010
There's plenty more, and none of it has to do with his place of birth. His father having been a Kenyan national made his offspring subject to the British Crown, while his mother, who birthed him at 18, had not been a US resident for a minimum of 5 years over the age of 14, a legal requisite for being able to convey citizenship by birth. Then there is the fact that Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian national, appears to have adopted little Barry when he married his mother, enabling him to attend an Indonesian school. As such, Barry would have been a naturalized Indonesian citizen, evidence of which lies in his later visit to Pakistan, at a time when US travel visas to that nation were not issued. It further warrants at least serious investigation that Obama now steadfastly refuses to release not just his birth documentation, but his educational records, which, if he was in fact a foreign national, may well reflect that status at the time he enrolled.
It may be that NONE of this is true, but Obama shows a marked disinterest in dispelling any of these suspicions. I'd be more convinced if he had simply released the lot of his documents when the questions began; now, any such which may appear could be considered suspect, especially if not allowed to be subjected to detailed forensic examination for forgery. ='[.]'=
Closed AccountJul 8, 2010
" while his mother, who birthed him at 18, had not been a US resident for a minimum of 5 years over the age of 14, a legal requisite for being able to convey citizenship by birth. "
"Dunham was three months shy of her 19th birthday when Obama was born. But subsequent acts of Congress relaxed the requirement to five years in the U.S., including just two years after the age of 14, meaning Dunham could have been 16 and still qualified even if Obama was born in another country, Volokh said. Congress made the law retroactive to 1952, doubly covering Obama."
-Chicago Tribune, October 30, 2008
"Then there is the fact that Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian national, appears to have adopted little Barry when he married his mother, enabling him to attend an Indonesian school. As such, Barry would have been a naturalized Indonesian citizen"
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/2008/10/did-obama-becom.html
"As such, Barry would have been a naturalized Indonesian citizen, evidence of which lies in his later visit to Pakistan, at a time when US travel visas to that nation were not issued."
"For starters, the Pakistan “travel ban” is a complete fabrication based on zero evidence and completely contradicted by State Department records and a 1981 New York Times article. "
http://www.ocweekly.com/2009-06-18/news/orly-taitz/4
hortnonJul 8, 2010
That's the Glenn Beck strategy: I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS....do you really want to use his brand of twisted logic?
apokalypsenowJul 8, 2010
If you see the *FULL* transcript of the interview with Obama's grandmother (rather than the "selectively edited" portion that Birthers like to toss around) she makes no statements that leave his citizenship and place of birth in doubt - she explicitly states that he was born in Hawaii.
groginohioJul 7, 2010
And I flew on UFO sitting between Elvis and Big Foot.
Get a life!
atomheartmotherJul 7, 2010
Was Dennis Kucinich at the helm?
Closed AccountJul 7, 2010
Of course he was. I don't even know why you ask.
Closed AccountJul 7, 2010
This story was debunked in October. Try to find something more recent
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp
Closed AccountJul 8, 2010
Are you all going to digg me down and live in this anti-Obama fantasy, or are one of you going to offer a rebuttal?
islandsharkJul 7, 2010
He didn't know what Jeremiah Wright preached, wasn't racist in the Cambridge police incident or calling his white grandmother a typical white person, never said USA had 57 states either. You have to assume that those still getting tingling feelings up their legs when he opens his bigoted piehole are so close to overdosing on narcotics (I doubt all the Kool-Aid in the world can get you that demented) that exercising their brains in the slightest will result in immediate implosion.
Closed AccountJul 7, 2010
To be honest I'm not sure Barack or anybody knows his real providence. Momma was a rolling stone.
these3remainJul 7, 2010
He's lucky that his dad was human.
Closed AccountJul 8, 2010
Citation ?
kiadragonJul 8, 2010
Why? You saying she engaged in cloning experiments? Humans can only mate with humans, dumb ass.
these3remainJul 7, 2010
Even if the ROTUS was actually born here, there are far too many other parts of his life that his administration insists upon keeping under wraps that previous presidents either produced or else the press revealed them, e.g., college transcripts for one.
hortnonJul 8, 2010
College transcripts being the most important part of the security of our nation, after all.
zubataJul 8, 2010
You'd have better luck nailing jello to the wall than pinning down this guy's past.
Closed AccountJul 8, 2010
In this thread, birthers.
ironhideJul 8, 2010
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp
Just in case you retards missed it.