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jerryjamesstoneAug 14, 2010
Oh, I thought this read INTERNET camps. Now that woulda been cool.
blitz718Aug 14, 2010
you should head out Californee way towards the internet refugee camp
markemmitchellAug 15, 2010
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/166180
catchpenAug 14, 2010
I think you just invented a multi-million dollar industry!
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
I read that as "internet" two times in a row.
knw257Aug 15, 2010
Don't be silly, no one in the GOP knows what the internet is. If they did, they wouldn't say such stupid s**t all the time. I guess they don't realize that everything they say is recorded for posterity (and entertainment).
diggaliggAug 15, 2010
so this is the top rated comment huh? by a factor of 2 to 1 no less. wow.
charlie6969Aug 14, 2010
Everyone should know of stuff like this.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Fascism! Coming to an America near you!
sanmanAug 15, 2010
if that's fascism, then by your definition America was a fascist country during WW2
elranzerAug 15, 2010
No one is denying that the camps they sent the Japanese-American citizens to were a horrible idea. Also, considering that Prescott Bush tried to overthrow president FDR, America sold weapons to the Nazis and dropped the bomb on Japan after they surrendered, kinda shows fascism was on its way already.
virolaiAug 15, 2010
You should call fascist the 27 gobernments of European Union that supported the Directive of Return in 2008 that, among other things, allows detention of illegals up to 18 months before expulsion. You may not know that in Europe (the "enlightened Europe") even the far left does not advocated for automatic citizenship for anyone born on its soil.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
harrypowersAug 14, 2010
We already have one. It's called mexico.
ghostwoAug 14, 2010
Let's 'concentrate' them in strategically-placed 'camps', and "leave them there" until they're dead! Let's see here, what can we call these 'camps'?
allisonaxeAug 14, 2010
I think we should call them "Freedom Communities!"
/s
curtisagAug 15, 2010
Prisons for criminals.
whomodAug 14, 2010
I see that they're not trying to hide the fact that what they actually believe in is fascism, anymore.
deusexmachina7Aug 14, 2010
My gut reaction is to call this man an idiot. But that wouldn't be right, because the reality is that what he said is going to win him a lot of votes.
keithlolbermannAug 14, 2010
My gut reaction is to call you an idiot for not reading the article. The candidate is a woman.
iignotusAug 14, 2010
My gut reaction is to bury KeithLOLberman, because he's a Digg Patriot and a troll.
keithlolbermannAug 14, 2010
u mad?
travelsonicAug 14, 2010
Keith,
"U mad?"
Please, f**k off now assh**e.
[I say this to anybody who thinks "U mad?" is a serious rebuttal, it is so retarded that I can't believe I don't punch the assh**e who says it]
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
LOL he mad. I hate keith too, but I almost has as little respect for the tards who fall for his generally crappy obvious trolls.
eezyvilleAug 15, 2010
The candidate is a woman though. Just sayin...
keithlolbermannAug 15, 2010
Travelsonic,
You sound mad. Are you?
theundertokerAug 15, 2010
Really Keith? Well then...you're a f**ktard.
caramba421Aug 14, 2010
My gut reaction is some bad Chinese food I ate earlier.
2004taxesAug 14, 2010
Invest in a refrigerator.
clyentnineAug 14, 2010
It wouldn't be right to call him an idiot because she is a woman.
whiterabbitobjAug 15, 2010
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CSA4everAug 15, 2010
That's right. Anytime a "camp" is suggested, you know the Zyklon B is on order. And its so important to associate camps with Hitler because we don't want anyone being reminded of the Red Terror and the Gulag. /sComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
sanmanAug 15, 2010
yes, the rhetoric is frighteningly similar to Arabs who say "ship them back to Poland"
keithlolbermannAug 15, 2010
Godwin'd.
whiterabbitobjAug 15, 2010
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keithlolbermannAug 15, 2010
Lulz. Godwin'd again.
kaegroAug 14, 2010
A real classy lady. Did I say classy? I mean s**tty.
psypher1Aug 14, 2010
I would say bitch!
magus_melchiorAug 14, 2010
Soon we'll be working in a mine for our Republican overlords-- Did I say overlords? I meant protectors...
(Apologies to fellow JoCo fans)
scabnabbitAug 14, 2010
When I go visit certain relations, she looks exactly like their neighbor too:
http://margbakerhouse.com/
whomodAug 14, 2010
She looks like an old redneck man in drag.
deruberkaiserAug 15, 2010
Such eloquence...
branditaAug 14, 2010
I think there is an immigration problem but a lot of the GOP reactions seem to be taking it way too far. I mean repealing the 14th Amendment? Internment Camps?
mnocketAug 14, 2010
Agreed. I believe once again many Republicans are mis-reading the sentiment of the majority of conservatives and are playing to the far right fringe. Nuts like this give the Republicans a bad name. Unfortunately GOP leadership are too clueless to do anything about it.
trolleyfanAug 14, 2010
It would be an event to see anyone give Republicans a *good* name.
mnocketAug 14, 2010
@trolleyfan
Obama, Pelosi and Reid seem to being a pretty good job of it.
rizzosbackAug 14, 2010
Republicans give Republicans a bad name. It's basically their platform.
trolleyfanAug 15, 2010
@mnocket
"Obama, Pelosi and Reid seem to being a pretty good job of it."
Nope. At absolute "best" (or worst, depending), they can give Democrats a bad name too. It really doesn't make the Republican name any better.
particleman420Aug 14, 2010
they only want to repeal the 14 ammendment because obama's father wasnt an american.
thats really all it boils down to. more sore loser desperation tactics
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
She's not a member of the GOP. She's a real estate broker with zero chance of being nominated for anything.
tukaAug 15, 2010
soooooooooo....... sounds like she's as credible as any other f**kwad the GOP puts up...
Remember? Palin was supposed to be 1 old ticker away from Potus?
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
soooooo... sounds like your basing that on your own stereotypes instead of reality.
zenmojoAug 15, 2010
For the Republican Party, the issue isn't about stemming illegal immigration. It's about having an ethnic enemy.
For instance, Obama's presidency has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president the last two generations thereabouts. More than both Bush's, Reagan, and Clinton.
He has also deported more illegal immigrant CRIMINALS than regular illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrant crime has stabilized and is actually at a several-year-low in Arizona, the hotbed of supposed illegal immigrant criminal activity.
And yet, Republicans claim that nothing is being done and want to pass more laws and even take away citizenship from groups of people. In fact, they are against funding MORE border patrol agents.
The only thing one can surmise is that this isn't about solving a problem in the most effective way one knows how, this is about keeping people around to demonize and call evil while reminding ethnic groups that they are not "true" Americans (and by "true" I mean of European descent or second-generation).
schmuckofniAug 15, 2010
Sure, look at the fighting on the border with the drug cartels. http://abcnews.go.com/US/mexican-drug-cartels-threaten-police-arizona/story?id=10995661
yurmutha412Aug 15, 2010
Not that I agree with this person or anything, but the 14th amendment only applies to US citizens.
hatdropAug 15, 2010
well...the citizenship clause says anyone born in the US is a citizen, this was created to deal with the newly freed slaves (free, citizens, vote - 13, 14, 15), due process clause is due process, and the equal protection clause of the 14th is granted to anyone within US jurisdiction. that's how you run a just country.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
Slavery would be a good solution. Illegal immigrants get sentenced to indentured service for some time, say 5 years? Then are deported upon completion.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
marx2kAug 16, 2010
I wouldn't be surprised to see Republicans coming up with this exact idea next.
soc7Aug 14, 2010
We have all those empty FEMA camps available right? Didn't Glenn Beck say so?
sizzzzlerzAug 14, 2010
Nah. Those are reserved for the teabaggers, once the Obama/Soros Acorn-Kenyan army starts to round them up.
Should be happening any day now.
soc7Aug 14, 2010
You're right. I think I read something about this in "Rules for Radicals". /S
jman5Aug 14, 2010
Damnit sizzlerz, it was supposed to be a secret!
crunchdiggAug 14, 2010
First they are going door-to-door to take shotguns away from Christians. I read it somewhere. I forget if that's before or after Sharia Law is imposed.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
And all of this is part of the GAY Agenda and black UN helicopters will come sweeping in over the country and umm erhhh uhhh...
marx2kAug 16, 2010
Will they be wearing brown shirts??
igorunchainedAug 15, 2010
I hate Glenn Beck and the Tea Party as much as the next guy......but to not believe in FEMA Camps is to not believe information that is easily found (in print, photo, and any other media form) with a couple of minutes on Google.
They are there for times of great disaster or pandemic. You know...like when the government doesnt respond to a Katrina like hurricane or when the DEADLY SWINE FLU comes around again.
It isnt classified and just because Glenn Beck says it doesnt mean it is wrong.
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soc7Aug 15, 2010
Glenn Beck completely twisted the meaning of the FEMA camps to scare his idiot audience and line his own pockets. I don't care about FEMA camps or anything else Mr. Beck and his ilk at Fox care to spew.
r0g3rAug 15, 2010
There are no FEMA camps. I normally wouldn't cite Glenn Beck or FOX News as a source of information, but here ya go, straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513024,00.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850
calber1111Aug 14, 2010
It's all part of the GOP's final solution to our border security problems.
jeninohioAug 14, 2010
I know where you're going, but man ... That's just too close to the way some of them sound to be comfortable chuckling over...
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
She's not a member of the GOP. She's a real estate broker.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
That's a nice subtle way to work in the Hitler illusions. Oh, I'm sorry - did I misspell that? /s
twilightmadnessAug 15, 2010
I was going to put a line in about them thinking of installing giant ovens at this proposed 'camp' but JenlnOhio is right this whole concept is too uncomfortable to laugh about.
Politicians really should pickup and read a history book before suggesting crap like this.
curtisagAug 15, 2010
Godwin's Law, look it up.
mistermysterAug 15, 2010
Godwin's doesn't mean an argument is discredited whenever Hitler/Nazis are brought up, so try to read it again.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Ignorance: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Keep it classy, GOP.
sniperhareAug 14, 2010
Why haven't any politicians fixed SS or unions? All I can do is vote for the people who I think might finally change things, I can't stay pissed off at the older people who screwed things up before I could even voice an opinion.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
psypher1Aug 14, 2010
Well said!
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
What are you talking about? The immigration issue has always been a huge divided issue that falls between party lines, Bush got criticized up the ass for not doing anything about it too, if anything it's only escalated higher now due to the failing economy.
Jeez, you guys and your right vs left conspiracy theories. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
user500Aug 15, 2010
so why when they ran congress the whitehouse and the supreme court did they do nothing about the issue.?
wilywondrAug 15, 2010
Why? Because the republicans love that big pool of sub-minimum-wage labor.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
I don't agree with how this immigration issue is being dealt with, but it's obvious that people are digging you up because your singing to the choir... since it's doubtful you ever picked up a history book in your life.
Illegal immigration has always been a hot topic in the USA. For instance, the 1986 amnesty bill was very controversial and signed by Reagan (a Republican). Thus, we see that Immigration was a past issue and republicans have offer a solution (even though it failed). So to suggest this issue is some type of political fabrication is absurd.
Secondly, the issue doesn't divide down party lines. With border states, you will find republicans and democrats strongly against illegal immigration... why.... because it places a huge financial burden on their healthcare and education systems. Yet in other parts of the nation, you find republicans and democrats supporting another amnesty bill. Why? Republicans know Hispanics tend to be socially conservative and believe they will form a new backbone to the Republican party. But democrats know they are poorer, and would be attractive to a party that promotes unions, increases in minimal wages, subsidized low-interest mortgages, etc. So essentially... immigration isn't an issue that tends to break down party lines.
dangercollieAug 14, 2010
It's just amazing to me that a significant fraction of our society has descended into madness.
2004taxesAug 14, 2010
Wait, define significant fraction.
psypher1Aug 14, 2010
My solution for that "fraction" is just deport them instead...no wait even better put THEM in the camps! :D
There, problem solved!
psypher1Aug 15, 2010
Did anybody "get" that I was talking about those in the GOP????!??!? :/
joe8packAug 14, 2010
There was no descent, its just with the internet the madness is more apparent and faster to surface. No one ever got poor underestimating the American Public.
Now that I think about I'm beginning to think "The Running Man" was a documetary about our future.
mike23wAug 14, 2010
not madness.
they were just born stupid. incredibly stupid.
2004taxesAug 15, 2010
Remember, the normal curve means that half of the population has an IQ below 100.
pjone88Aug 14, 2010
The same thing happened to the empire of Rome. It was the worlds superpower with many advances in every aspect of civilization. But then it started to decay from within. Lost of morals and a singular goal eventually led to it's downfall. Some say it was the lead pipes which transported their drinking water that made Romans decrepit and insane. What's will be America's reason why it fell from glory? Greed? Warmongering? Lost of morals? Insanity? The only thing I know is nothing last forever but the question is how did the empire of America fall?
2004taxesAug 15, 2010
Entropy is a bitch.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
As Rome's empire grew, it absorbed peoples who liked the Roman way of life but did not have any deep feeling for Rome. This racial and cultural diversity tore the empire apart, especially as invaders challenged the central power of Rome.
gmstoneAug 15, 2010
<<Some say it was the lead pipes which transported their drinking water that made Romans decrepit and insane. >>
I hadn't thought about it until now, but maybe we're starting to go a bit crazy from all the poison we've been exposed too --- chemical leaching from Teflon/aluminum pans & plastics, pesticides, air pollution, too much corn syrup & too many fatty burgers made from tiny bits of thousands of untested/overly medicated cows mixed together into a single quarter-pound meat patty, etc., etc.
And who knows what unpleasant surprises we'll find about our constant exposure to cell phones, microwaves and electromagnetic fields from products that didn't exist 40 years ago? Don't forget that the oldest among us were exposed to radiation from open-air nuclear bomb tests.
seriouzbidnezzAug 15, 2010
Just American society. ;)
virolaiAug 15, 2010
Liberals love the comparison with Europe regarding health care, education, welfare benefits, standards of living, low crime rates... You would be in absolute dismay if you knew some of the immigration policies in force in many european countries. For example, in 2006 the Swiss voted a reform ending low-skilled non european immigration. David Cameron and Mark Rutte (both centre-right) are advocating to put a numeric limit on this kind of immigration and cut the Welfare they benefit from. Or Sarkozy. Or Merkel saying that she rejects parallel societies (a politically correct way to say multiculturalism). Etc, etc. In this case you don´t like to compare. In this case the Constitution is not a "living document".Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
trolleyfanAug 14, 2010
"We can ship them out to the middle of the country and put up high walls and leave them there,"
Yeah, because high walls work *so* good at the border...
akairennAug 14, 2010
"Yeah, because high walls work *so* good at the border..."
They worked pretty well against the Mongols for a time. Or are you talking about our largely wall-less border?
Regardless, this calls for a double facepalm. The answer to illegal immigration is... Keep them *in* the country?
In what twisted, alternate multiverse does that possibly make any sense whatsoever?
trolleyfanAug 15, 2010
Would this be the same Mongols who were "kept out" by that wall so well, they concurred China. Yeah, *real* effective, that...
And, no. I'm talking about the border with walls that the average illegal can bypass in about thirty seconds with a few tools...
...you see, there's this amazing Mexican invention called "The Ladder"...
akairennAug 15, 2010
"Yeah, *real* effective, that..."
Given the ridiculous span of time where the wall was completely successful versus the relatively scant periods where it wasn't, I'd say it was pretty damned effective.
"I'm talking about the border with walls that the average illegal can bypass in about thirty seconds with a few tools..."
What border might that be? It certainly isn't any of the United States' borders.
tukaAug 15, 2010
well technically, even though they are brown, they mostly happen to be christian. So deep down the GOP can't do anything against its prime directive of returning america to a 100% christian nation, you know, just like the indians had it before the muslims, jews, and athiests f**ked it all up.
sniperhareAug 14, 2010
Don't put them somewhere here, just send them back to their home countries.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Exactly. Either we're going to amnesty...or we're going to get serious about the fact that people are here illegally. The status quo cannot stand.
If any illegal has committed a crime punishable with prison, we should let them serve the term, then deport them.
Others really OUGHT to be sent packing.
And I DO agree we need stiffer penalties for employers as well.
amusedtodeathAug 15, 2010
"just send them back to their home countries"
We do, in large numbers every day, but then they come right back in. The reason they come is where we should be focusing our efforts. The government should be cracking down hard on the businesses that hire illegals - and it seems everyone except INS knows what those businesses are. If there are no jobs for them here, most of them will stay home.
doctornkulAug 15, 2010
Probably INS can't figure it out because they don't exist anymore.
amusedtodeathAug 15, 2010
You're right. I guess it would be ICE now?
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Reminds me of a different time and place.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
Life is a circle.
Unfortunately for quite a few, it seems they have to repeat the mistakes the last time it came around.
whomodAug 14, 2010
King Barry just doesn't get it.....
HE'S REFERRING TO NAZI GERMANY YOU DOLT.
Or do the comparisons only apply when Glenn Beck is talking about obama trying to give someone health care?
djskylerAug 15, 2010
Oh wow, I didn't know floods of illegal immigrants were scrambling to enter Germany during World War II. I learn so much on Digg.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
You clearly did not get it. The parallels are obvious to anyone who's not an idiot.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
@Niallgriff: Or it's clear to them, but they're just trying to hide the truth of it to everybody else.
infestusAug 14, 2010
Astounding.
pintomp3Aug 14, 2010
It's the next logical step after the "papers please" law.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Eine papieren bitte!
twilightmadnessAug 15, 2010
Doesn't Arizona already have that one in the bag?
atarioAug 15, 2010
Now they just need a starkly snappy logo. Something bold. Maybe black, white, and red, in some kind of distinctive geometric shape.
bobby1978Aug 15, 2010
>>It's the next logical step after the "papers please" law.<<
Following that, a latino archeologist will dump an American captain off the window of a transport blimp for not having them.
2004taxesAug 14, 2010
Good! Now we will have a list of Americans we need to lock up, the one's that vote for this cretin.
kasjogrenAug 15, 2010
DP sleeper account
2004taxesAug 14, 2010
While this is certainly shocking I think it's the Democrats that have a history of actually creating interment camps in the US. Didn't we lock up japanese American kids in WWII under FDR and indians under Van Buren?
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vegetablelambAug 15, 2010
but which team, Red or Blue, scored more touch-downs in the 3rd quarter?
maddoktor2Aug 14, 2010
Fascist is as fascist does.
Way to stay classy, Republicans.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Ok, if I say that the status quo is unacceptable and that we need to deport illegals...does that make me fascist?
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
The problem is you CANNOT stop immigration. You just can't. Look at Europe. People try to cross the Mediterranean in something that is in fact nothing more than a big canoe. Reporters did interviews in Africa, showing the general public that those people DO VERY WELL KNOW survival rate is less than half, and most of those that make it are sent back.
If knowing you risk your life for a probable deportation, is there anything else that would defer you? Maybe certain death...
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
I don't want to stop immigration. I have friends who are immigrants.
The problem is ILLEGAL immigration. Our laws are more lax than the vast majority of countries...INCLUDING Mexico.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
maddoktor2Aug 14, 2010
Well, that all depends - would you condone or support rounding them all up en masse, man, woman, and child, using whatever force needed to put them in concentration (internment) camps?
If you can answer yes to that, then yes, that makes you a fascist, no better than the Nazis.
Consider:
How many would die in the process? What would you consider to be acceptable losses? How many men, women, and children would have to die before it became unacceptable to you? 1? 10? 100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? 10,000,000?
You don't have to answer right away - take your time. Think it through. Carefully. I already have - my answer is ZERO. Not on my watch. Not in America - we're supposed to be better than that, aren't we?
And yes, I said concentration camps instead of internment camps - any difference that makes no difference is no difference.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
"would you condone or support rounding them all up en masse, man, woman, and child, using whatever force needed to put them in concentration (internment) camps?"
It's almost an absurd argument. I would prefer that we cracked down and deported them. (They may have to be held until arrangements are made to deport them, but hopefully not long...it's my understanding that we are already doing this.) I would prefer that we secured our border. I would prefer that we reserved taxpayer aid for people who are legal residents. I would prefer stiffer penalties for people knowingly hiring illegals. I would prefer that MAYBE we would consider changing our immigration laws and protections to resemble those of other nations. As it is, we are the Mecca.
In the process of actually DOING SOMETHING...I would hope that no one would die. The concentration camps put JEWS and others in gas chambers and ovens...so there IS a difference. I would never think it ok for someone to die while they were waiting for deportation.
We accept a lot of legal immigrants from numerous places. I'm fine with that. But the bleeding heart idea of saying "open borders" come on in, is hurting us as a nation. It has hurt Arizona. I was there.
No matter how much you guys try, we are NOT Nazi Germany.
The border needs to be secured. Our government owes that to us. It's not just illegal immigrants coming across the border, they have found evidence of terrorists coming in that way too. How f**king stupid are we being for the sake of being benevolent?
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_central_southern_az/other/terrorists-crossing-az-border-into-u.s.%3F
"On that one day in April, according to records obtained by ABC 15, Homeland Security officials were holding inmates from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Lebanon, and the Sudan.
“They’re coming from all over,” Arizona Senator Jon Kyl said. “And one wonders whether some of them are coming in here to commit acts of terror.”
Kyl has been tracking the problem since 2002, not long after the September 11 attacks. Since that time, according to an investigation by the House Committee on Homeland Security, intelligence officials have determined members of the terror group Hezbollah have already infiltrated the U.S. by crossing at the southern border."
We're not Nazis....do we have to be blown up to prove we're not Nazis?
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maddoktor2Aug 14, 2010
Long story short: in essence, you said no, you wouldn't condone or support it, so no, that doesn't make you a fascist, and I am relieved to hear it.
However, those calling to round them all up en masse and put them in concentration camps, like Marg Baker, most certainly are.
Nice people representing your party, no?
Want to fix the problem? Enforce the existing laws and sanctions against employers who hire illegals, knowingly or not. If those laws aren't tough enough, up the ante with a mandatory minimum 6 months imprisonment for employers that do, be they a CEO, or Mom and Pop who run the local gas and grocery - no exceptions.
If there's no work for illegals here, the problem solves itself - they'll leave on their own, and not return. Cut off the head, the body dies.
It's really a quite elegant and simple solution, but nobody seems to want to actually do it.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
"Nice people you got there representing your party, no?"
That's pissy. She didn't say she wanted them in camps indefinitely...she said that we need to deport illegals...and we may need to hold them until they can be deported.
Let's revisit:
"those calling to round them all up en masse and put them in concentration camps..."
Those? This is one person who ended her statement by saying illegals should be deported...NOT GASSED!
I support penalties for people who hire illegals:
"If there's no work for illegals here, the problem solves itself - they'll leave on their own, and not return. Cut off the head, the body dies."
No...we give aid to illegals. We are supporting the problem.
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maddoktor2Aug 15, 2010
Get this - I don't give a rat's patootie if they're here illegally or not.
Rounding up people en masse and putting them in concentration camps for whatever reason, deportation or anything else, whether they're harmed or not, is fascism.
If you support that, you're a fascist. Deal with it.
tsk05Aug 14, 2010
One candidate who hasn't even been elected and you group all Republicans into supporting her?
sanmanAug 15, 2010
Fascists were a left-wing party, btw
Mussolini was the editor of Avanti, the leading socialist publication in Europe
He was also a longtime correspondent with LeninComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mistermysterAug 15, 2010
So what is your point? this means people leaning right can't be fascist?
BTW, fascism was a authoritarian movement of left and right ideas in WWI but it shifted towards the far right. Most if not all scholars knew that. Even Mussolini knew that. Taken from one of wiki's sources:
"Benito Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism regards fascism as right-wing and collectivist, but it also declares that fascism is sympathetic to ameliorating the conditions that brought about the rise of left-wing political movements, such as class conflict socialism and liberal democracy, while simultaneously opposing the egalitarianism associated with the left."
So don't go twisting facts or distorting history, because facts and history don't usually bode well for conservatives.
sanmanAug 15, 2010
on the contrary, facts don't bode well for liberals either, but they make more strenuous efforts to deny them
remember that wikipedia is not a good source for issues which are in contention or dispute, such as what we're discussing
it is left-wing preference for collectivization on all matters which results in persecution of dissenters
calling that a "shift to the right" is just the left's way of shedding responsibility for downsides which are the inevitable consequence of left-wing politics
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mistermysterAug 16, 2010
Except it wasn't created under Wikipedia, it's from "The Doctrine of Fascism" the essay that Mussolini wrought.
curtisagAug 15, 2010
Since when is it fascist to detain and hold criminals?
Jordan117Aug 14, 2010
FTA:
* * *
She told Salon today that she was upset at the way some had misinterpreted her comments. "They're trying to think I want to erect some sort of prison camps like over in Germany" -- which she is not, Baker said.
Asked if what she had in mind was more like the Japanese internment camps of the World War II era, Baker said, "something like that."
* * *
Phew! Glad she cleared *that* one up.
spazattack5000Aug 14, 2010
I don't know how the internment camps for the Japanese were stateside but in Canada the government see that as being one of the biggest and most regrettable mistakes the country has ever made. We need to fear not though as this person will never get elected.
thegreat0neAug 14, 2010
We don't really talk about it much here..
dephextwinAug 15, 2010
We in the US might have felt the same way except for, you know, what we did with slaves being so much worse.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
Our internment camps were unpleasant but certainly not unbearable. In fact, a 3rd generation Japanese I know was there as a kid and he told me it was "fun". He didn't think his parents thought so, but he did. So how bad could they have been?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
gmstoneAug 15, 2010
The internment camps were bad enough to destroy careers, create financial ruin and tear individuals away from their communities. Doesn't sound like fun to me.
dmurphy04Aug 15, 2010
The Japanese American National Museum in Los Angeles has a good exhibit on them here. Very sobering.
http://www.janm.org/
Horrible part of our history.
NEVER AGAIN, I say.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Well, there is a bit of a difference.
In Germany, the people in those camps were killed.
And to be fair to her, she said they should be held 'till they can be deported back to their home countries.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
sourcitrusAug 14, 2010
Yes but roughly 2/3 of the Japanese in the internment camps had US citizenship.
csfflameAug 14, 2010
In the US it's seen as a horrible mistake too.
mredofcourseAug 14, 2010
There's some debate on that. *Some people* believe while it was horrible, it wasn't necessarily a mistake.
Just saying.
ianzuAug 15, 2010
You generally don't pay monetary compensation to people (or apologise) unless a mistake has occurred.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
I don't know if it was a mistake or not, but I do know we won the war.
marx2kAug 16, 2010
According to CSA4ever's logic, Germany also won the war.
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
I guess they didn't cover much history in realtor school.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Terror babies will go to guantanamo instead
whatthefuAug 14, 2010
Link to the source, especially since this article about the source is poorly written: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/12/florida_candidate_put_immigrants_in_camps/index.html
tomleykisAug 14, 2010
The same liberals yelling and screaming here have no problem bashing Jews. How ironic.
unfilterthoughtAug 14, 2010
I would like to learn how to make the same leap of logic as you.
Please tell me who sells you your hallucinogens.
kennykljAug 14, 2010
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spazattack5000Aug 14, 2010
We don't hate Jews, we hate the fact that a Jewish state gets preferential treatment even though they do just as much damage to peace as almost any Muslim state.
jman5Aug 14, 2010
I can only speak for myself, but I think most here would agree with me. We don't hate Jews. We hate the fact that there has been nearly non stop violence in the region is not good for our country.
Is it wrong, racist, or anti-Semitic to disagree with certain policies of a foreign government? Why does it have to be black or white?
I like Jews, I think it's fine that Israel is around, but I disagree with some of their policies. Just like I like Palestinians, I think the idea of their own country is fine, but I disagree with some of their policies.
creationismlolAug 14, 2010
wat
absurdistAug 14, 2010
I listened to Tom Leykis in Phoenix. And in L.A. on KFI. And after a short hiatus, syndicated nationally.
You, sir, are no Tom Leykis.
joe8packAug 14, 2010
Someone apparently lives in a rather Jew centric universe. Way to be completely insecure, skip 3 turns.
theoptimatorAug 14, 2010
Im a raging conservative....... and I dont think the jews are worth a single American life. YOU deal with it. We have enough problems.
There is a difference between bashing someone, and not wanting to fight a war for them.
propethicAug 14, 2010
Wow that is offensive.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
I agree...
Why are the Israelis worth more then the Palestinian lives or the lives of Afghans or Canadians for that matter?
Israel needs to grow the f**k up, over 60 years of war by the rogue nuclear terrorist state called Israel.
theoptimatorAug 14, 2010
WOW?! What the hell do you mean by that propethic???????? What the f**k does the US owe isreal?! We saved your asses in WWII......... AND our politicians give you people tons of money we dont have.... money that you wouldnt get if it went to a vote.
Quit acting like you can pull s**t over on people by acting like everyone is a Nazi...... hanndle your own problems, the US doesnt owe you anything.
thesonofdarwinAug 14, 2010
It's not a huge difference between this idea and what Israelis are doing to the Palestinians so I'm unsure why you are surprised that liberals would be against both? What you should be surprised about is that everyone else AREN'T.
ymegAug 14, 2010
Don't most Jewish people vote democrat?
seriouzbidnezzAug 15, 2010
Unless they are fundamentalists (at least in LA)
kennykljAug 14, 2010
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iignotusAug 14, 2010
Hitler put people into internment camps, when no one deserves to put there.
Logic'd.
akairennAug 14, 2010
"Hitler put people into internment camps, when no one deserves to put there."
The United States put her own citizens into internment camps during World War II.
You fail at logic.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
Lenin and Stalin had more camps with more people in them than Hitler. If you like Hitler, you'll just love Stalin.
iignotusAug 15, 2010
How do I fail at logic? Do you see me endorsing or congratulating the USA for doing that? Wow, what a f**king retard you are Akairenn.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
So Nazi's didn't put people in interment camps?
Are you some holocaust denier freak?
Even removing the Nazi idea of it, the US had their own interment camps for the Japanese, and it wasn't the 4-star Ritz hotel for sure.
khastAug 14, 2010
I think the GOP pulled Godwin's Law on themselves this time.
jman5Aug 14, 2010
To be fair, when someone starts mentioning camps to hold certain types of people, it's not that much of a leap. Normally I hate when people jump to the hitler/nazi comparison, but this was a bit too easy.
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
The name 'Hitler' might not be the first to come to the minds of the Kulaks when camps are mentioned.
glassagateAug 15, 2010
Bush invaded a sovereign country. That is one reason why it's okay to call him Hitler.
notwittyatallAug 14, 2010
I don't even want to say anything clever. This just makes me sad.
joe8packAug 14, 2010
If you let them make you sad, the bastards are winning. At the least let it make you angry.
theoptimatorAug 14, 2010
Then you better wake up and accept the fact that our borders need to be secured.... cuz this is what you get when you dont address real problems.
thesonofdarwinAug 14, 2010
No, this is what you get when Americans stop thinking for themselves and survive on pure emotion (fear) over logic.
I'm confident that the Republicans, through Fox news, could convince the majority that a mandatory 8PM curfew country-wide was necessary to protect them from monsters in the night.
theoptimatorAug 15, 2010
Illegal immigration is a problem. It is not being addressed. How is that not thinking for yourself?
I agree this is overboard. However, ignoring the illegal immigrant population is as irrational as locking up illegals in a camp.
When you deal with real problems irrationally..... people on the the other side start doing irrational things also. My point is that you better get used to crazy s**t like this until the problem is dealt with.
thesonofdarwinAug 15, 2010
Yes, let's reward the bats**t crazies instead of actually forcing them to take their medication, propose a reasonable plan of action, and work together to solve a problem rather than not only making the problem worse but making America worse as a result.
whomodAug 14, 2010
Fascism?
creationismlolAug 14, 2010
I find it amusing how a member of the GOP would suggest internment camps when so many in his party are terrified of so called "FEMA internment camps".
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
She's NOT a member of the GOP. She's a real estate broker. She has never been elected or nominated for public office.
creationismlolAug 15, 2010
"But one Republican candidate for state legislature in Florida thinks the idea should be readopted, this time as a way to hold illegal immigrants."
semantics. GTFO
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
What candidate? For what office? Specifics to back up your claims or GTFO.
creationismlolAug 15, 2010
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/12/florida_candidate_put_immigrants_in_camps/index.html
In an interview with Salon today, a Republican candidate for the Florida state Legislature stood by her controversial idea to arrest illegal immigrants and send them to "camps" where they can be held en masse.
GTFO
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
FTA: "Marg Baker, the middle-aged real estate broker VYING FOR the Republican nomination"
Notice how it says VYING FOR? As in not actually a candidate?... and has NOT received a nomination? Do you understand what VYING FOR means? If you're VYING FOR a nomination, that means you haven't gotten it yet, which means that you have NOT been nominated and are NOT endorsed by the GOP in any way. Try reading past the first sentence, dumb ass.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mikeoxbiggAug 14, 2010
In Soviet Russia, woman s**t bat.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
dugg for the sheer ridiculousness of it.
tcbevolverAug 15, 2010
*FLAP FLAP FLAP FAP FAP FAP*
(Invoked under Rule 34).
samurimasterAug 15, 2010
I think you just wrote an Onion headline
marx2kAug 16, 2010
I lol'd
mikelistAug 14, 2010
good to see they still haven't used up all that bats**t.
khastAug 14, 2010
So that's what the 'G' stands for...Guano
seltaeb4Aug 14, 2010
I know -- let's build an American Berlin Wall!
thecoffeeAug 14, 2010
The Tortilla Wall
pauliusuzaAug 14, 2010
©
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
You Sir, win two Internets!
"The Tortilla Curtain" is now officially stolen and will be reused as I see fit...
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Will there be a guacamole moat?
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Technically, to be correct...that would be like, a wall that goes down the continental divide.
Republicans on the right, Democrats on the left? Families will be separated...or maybe you can pick.
I'm thinking about it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
marx2kAug 16, 2010
How about individual secession? You begin.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
The Talibangelical Wall of Terror!
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
You ought to love that. You think anyone who doesn't share your ideology is a "Talibangelical"...you'd get your side, we'd get ours. Besides, it wasn't MY suggestion, it was selt's.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
Actually I only call those fanatics of the !right-wing tea-partiers Talibangelical because everything they spew out makes everyone believe they want to install a theocracy in the US.
So that's about... what? 25% of the population? You in the 25% Quirk to take offense to it? Would you not agree that "crazy is crazy" whether it's people like Al-Queda or abortionist killers? This isn't a political liberal/conservative thing, it's a fanatics thing.
And btw Quirk, I wasn't responding to your comment, which actually wasn't showing when I made mine. So no, not everything I say is against you. Sorry, you're not that important to me to want to do that.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Paranor - my apologies, your comment showed up as a response to mine.
No one wants to install a theocracy in the USA. That's ridiculous. You could argue that people were more religious in the 50's....but no one was screaming, "OMG! They are repressing me!" in the 50's.
I think we have freedom of religion in the USA. That means freedom for all religions so long as you don't install a state religion.
I'm the person that says in your holiday display, put up a manger scene and a menorah and whatever for Kwanzaa...include all.
Thanks for saying you think my pic is attractive. It IS me....about a year ago.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Cool, and good for you on inclusion.
And hey, I may not appreciate certain aspects of you, but that doesn't mean the rest isn't appreciable. There are things, like inclusion, that we agree on.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
I haven't looked at your pics. 140 pounds? Wow! That's awesome. I tend to go to the marshmallowy side too easily these days. They say it comes with being 40....
But....I don't like it. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
I'm 42, and have more energy now than I've ever had. So *pew* on "comes with being 40" bulls**t. It's all a state of mind.
(and to the audience... no, I'm not trying to pick her up for a date :Þ)
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
Paranor - I just looked at the pics. You look fine. I had to laugh and I have to give respect to you for posting the grass skirt one!
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Well, that "grass skirt" picture was me at over 400lbs @ 6'0".
I'm just under 260lbs now and 6'0.5"... go figure lol
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
So, your extra fat went to the top of your head???
There's a joke there someplace.....
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Actually, it literally blew out my ass lol. Metabolism kicked in, diabetes effects lowered, and I have a higher methane output now with all the conversion. It's literally melting off me.
And yes, there is a joke there. I have one, but it's not gentlemanly, nor SFW lol
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
I was kidding. I hope you know.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Oh I know :)
Appreciate the clarifier though :)
boner11Aug 14, 2010
The Berlin Wall was built to keep people in, not out. The morons above me dugg you anyways.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Can't do one without the other.
dephextwinAug 15, 2010
Well, no... West Germans were free to go into East Germany at any time.
paranor01Aug 15, 2010
Touché
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
No they weren't.
When I lived in Europe, we had a German family that were friends. They lived in Belgium, but were West Germans. The father of the family had an aunt that lived in East Germany. There was a lot of family in East Germany that they could not visit. But his aunt got terminal cancer....so the East Germans decided to let her out to visit family in West Germany. There was a deal worked where she crossed the border to Belgium without stamping her passport.
His aunt had this life dream of visiting America. So, since we were Americans and we had commissary/px priveleges and could get the iconic American foods....we had her for a dinner at our house. I will never forget the woman looking at a fruit salad with strawberries/kiwis/other exotic fruit like it was some kind of magical thing. Apparently, in East Germany they were used to bananas and apples at best.
We did a grill out and fed her hamburgers and hot dogs. Cracker Jacks and Oreos.
She had such a good time. She died within the year after she returned to East Germany.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dephextwinAug 18, 2010
People were free to go into East Germany... it's just that there was no guarantee they would be allowed to return, under normal circumstances.
sangjmoonAug 14, 2010
We already have internment camps for illegal immigrants in our own country for those who are stuck in limbo, and they are fully know to the president and the Democrat controlled congress.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
endgameAug 14, 2010
LOL, considering the U.S. has already given Mexico a large portion of south east Arizona, this is to little to late. We need a HUGE national force on the border along with tanks & Humvee's. Those of you that dont live in the southwest have NO IDEA what it's like here in Nevada, Arizona, Texas, & California! Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
iignotusAug 14, 2010
Okay, then please tell us what it's like where the situation would require all that.
paranor01Aug 14, 2010
Hey Glenn Beck! Nice to see you here on Digg.
Now STFU and go back to the kiddie corner... timeout!
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Wasn't a big chunk of west-US originally New Spain and later on Méjico (= ... Mexico)?
We have no idea how it is like in Nevada, Arizona, Texas & California.. Must feel awkward getting out-competed by people that in some cases have higher degrees than, but are doing s**tty jobs for less money than you. Honestly it's only a problem for people that have a low educational background.
gordon2108Aug 15, 2010
Mobilizing troops and moving them to the border is a huge f**king mistake. It would make the U.S. look absolutely horrible.
If you've ever played a game like civilization you'll know what I mean (and if you don't.. it tends to look like imminent invasion)
CSA4everAug 15, 2010
Dugg you up for mentioning Civilization but had to Digg you down for being wrong on the issue.
dr_lehouxAug 14, 2010
You want to fix immigration? Go after the employers that provide the jobs and make them pay fines that would make it unprofitable to hire illegal immigrants.
I think that there is a lot of hypocrisy in this debate. The same people that hate immigrants would not spend 1 day in a field picking fruit and would definitely go crazy if the cost of food went up.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
this, and the fact that these bigots hire a Mexican maid to work in the house. They're double-hypocrite.
dstzAug 15, 2010
Exept the ones who are proposing solutions.
However repulsive and disastrous the propositions are, they smell like flowers compared to the bipartite hypocrisy that the op notes.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
xenuxenutsAug 14, 2010
If you really want to end it, send the hiring people and the execs above them to jail.
devtrashAug 15, 2010
COME ON! I said it once and I'll say it AGAIN. That one time before was because a CONTRACTOR who was not aware of our strict policy, sent us a few emergency replacement workers when we had a bout of the flu! We don't do business with that CONTRACTOR any more.
cowman80i9Aug 15, 2010
Hey children, lets solve the "THEM THAR ILLEGAL MEXICANS TOOK OUR JOBS BY GETTING PAID LESS MONEY, HURRRRRRRRRR DERP" How about we make it so that those illegals are legal and therefore have to be paid the same as americans. THEN wal-mart and mickey d's have no incentive to hire ...them over "americans" and if they keep doing it, it means the americans are doing something WRONG
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Dugg you, but take care a little bit more of your English.
mweatherAug 14, 2010
What else would you do with 13 million people? It's not like we have the holding facilities to handle them while they wait for their court date. Everyone who says we should round them up and deport them wants internment camps.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
faskippyAug 15, 2010
BBBBulls**t.
mweatherAug 15, 2010
So what is your plan for holding the 13 million illegals while we process them? I'm all ears.
mweatherAug 15, 2010
Keep in mind we already keep ~67% of our immigration detainees in state and county jails, so putting the excess there is out of the question.
carbonetcAug 14, 2010
It's unfortunate that one's awareness of history and one's eagerness to run for public office tend to be inversely proportionate.
dr_lehouxAug 14, 2010
I also think that the welfare system in this country fuels illegal immigration. The people that are at home collecting checks, for the most part would have been the ones doing the menial jobs in order to subsist, but why would you go pick fruit when you can stay home and collect money for doing nothing?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
If I lost my job, and would have to pluck fruit for 3-4$/h I'd stay at home too. As soon as employers pay a bit more reasonable there will be more willing to pluck. I mean, that's how (in Europe) they find people to be a garbage-(wo)man, they get paid more than a supermarket-clerk.
dr_lehouxAug 14, 2010
1- Europe is going bankrupt because of all the cradle to grave entitlement programs.
2-I'm all for farm workers getting paid more, but realize that will mean higher food prices for all...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
1-Europe is far from bankrupt, essentially its problem for the unification.. If Europe was really bankrupt (or going to) it would be one country already.
2-So instead of ultra rich profiteering on every level, fruit is more expensive, but wages are higher... in the end it would mean the gap between rich and poor would be smaller. I don't see the problem.
scythefwdAug 15, 2010
If I lost my job, and would have to pluck fruit for 3-4$/h I'd stay at home too. If you're working on the books, you'll be making minimum wage... something like 7.50 an hour. Now if you're working off the books, then you'll get what they are willing to pay you as you don't have any way to force them to pay more. A person who is required to make minimum wage cannot compete on wages with someone who is willing to work for half that. The problem is very much in the employers.
The fact that many people aren't willing to work for minimum wages for menial jobs leaves the opportunity for illegals to be hired because the resource pool is about mud puddle deep without them.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
illegal immigration is only fuelled because of it being illegal, irony oh irony.
Let me explain. If at one point all illegal immigrants are granted citizenship, and thus legal status, why would an employer pay the same wage (to pluck fruit) to an uneducated immigrant that doesn't speak english, if the uneducated american that does speak english costs the same? There's only an incentive for an employer to contract an illegal because illegals have to shut up as they have no rights. Take that away and there will be no jobs anymore for uneducated immigrants, and economic immigration will almost halt.
We see that in Europe. Western-Europe would be flood be all those Eastern-Europeans that would abuse Shengen to steal our jobs. The contrary is true. We were "flooded" before they entered the EU, now that they are legally allowed to move freely most are returning.
willthewayAug 14, 2010
This doesn't make any sense. Why would they want them to remain here? I thought the point was to get them out.
theoptimatorAug 14, 2010
The best part of all....... crazy s**t like this is gonna happen...... because our politicians dont have the balls to address a real problem. We cannot have open borders..... and that is what we have now. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
xiiiganonAug 14, 2010
I'm not one to cry Nazi, but we start off blaming them for all our economic problems, then we force them to carry their papers with them at all times, now we're starting internment camps. I'm not saying that we're gonna go all third reich, but there are an awful lot of parallels.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
America is now where Germany was in around 22 (without the Weimar Rep.-army restriction). There's still time to get on the right track, but will it be done?
howitzer86Aug 14, 2010
NAZI!
I win!
faskippyAug 15, 2010
Telling people to carry their green cards is nothing like Nazi Germany. This woman is obviously way out there, but that doesn't mean that all laws are wrong. Being extremely simplistic is just as far from a solution as her suggestion.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dikkyAug 14, 2010
why not just f**king kill them so you never have to worry about them coming back, taking care of them and best of all its a real deterrent to future illegal immigrants Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
gordon2108Aug 15, 2010
Because some people have a heart instead of a block of ice in their chest.
angelsfreeekAug 15, 2010
/s?
scythefwdAug 15, 2010
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
We started our declaration of independence with this sentence because it was important that these ideals be the base of a government as evidenced by the second sentence...
hat to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.
To just kill them would be directly against why we founded our government. If they tried to just kill them, then the People have the right to either alter or abolish the government and have a redo.
marx2kAug 16, 2010
"why not just f**king kill them"
I give it 2 months before this is a major GOP talking point.
dolandolandolanAug 14, 2010
Yeah, she's nuts, and this is terrible, but she's also a *candidate* for a state-legislature position. She doesn't speak for the Republican party any more than Cynthia McKinney speaks for the Democratic Party.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kingp43Aug 14, 2010
I completely agree with your statement, and would like to add I think Cynthia McKinney is great. Although she isn't a Democrat, she ran in 2008 as a Green party candidate, and got my vote.
Bury on. =]
malexAug 15, 2010
She was invited to speak at a Glenn Beck activist rally. Maybe she doesn't represent mainstream Republicans but she sure seems to represent somebody...
mike23wAug 14, 2010
when i run for office in florida, my platform will be to put all stupid people like Marg Baker in internment camps.
dynamojoeAug 15, 2010
Move here. I'll vote for ya. Hell, I'll work for your campaign.
smpaisnutrientsAug 14, 2010
wouldn't these camps cost the taxpayers more then deportation? You have to build them, fill them, stock them, and staff them. I thought the Rightists were up in arms about how much money illegals cost us?
kyanAug 15, 2010
If they hire the illegals to build them, it'll be cheaper.
qazwsAug 14, 2010
GOP should stay in a concentration camp for ignorant attitude since Obama became president.
tsk05Aug 14, 2010
Guess what? The only guy to actually use internment camps in the United States was *gasp* a Democrat. FDR.
bobh1234Aug 14, 2010
People are entering our country illegally for Christ's/Allah's sake. Why are liberals so okay with that? I never understood that.
propethicAug 14, 2010
So internment camps is the solution? Is that what non-liberals believe?
adc86Aug 14, 2010
Why are conservatives not ok with that? Honestly, I've heard "illegal is illegal," but that's extremely hard to buy. A recent traffic study in Grand Rapids, MI discovered that 2% of highway traffic (!!) was going the speed limit of 55, whereas upwards of 95% was going about 70mph. Deport them too? To where? Throw them in jail? How does that help society?
Perhaps some laws have no moral basis?
I can't believe that Republicans don't take the opposite view, that we need to increase legal immigration to its previous levels, making a moral arguments for the free movement of humans, and then use that as reasoning for doing away with the welfare state. It seems like such an easy strategy that could net the Latino vote (Latino presidential approval is down 20 points right now!)
tsk05Aug 14, 2010
To clarify, are you supporting this woman's idea? If so, as a Republican, I find that appalling, we're suppose to stand for more freedoms and less government, this is the exact opposite. Can you clarify?
@ adc86
There are some unjust laws, and I have no problem with things like jury nullification. I am also a legal immigrant to the US. But I don't support ILLEGAL immigration. Immigration laws exist for a reason; would you say our current immigration laws are unfair? Why?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
enantiodromiaAug 15, 2010
obvious troll is dumb
flagg85Aug 14, 2010
What if they start having baby's while in the camp?
kingp43Aug 14, 2010
lol
funnythatAug 14, 2010
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dynamojoeAug 15, 2010
Terror Babies!
pentayAug 14, 2010
LET THE IMPLOSION CONTINUE
neverenderAug 14, 2010
yeah interment camps are a great solution. because you dont have to feed them or provide health care in internment camps. oh wait, you do? oh, so its going to still cost us money? maybe we should have them do jobs in prison no american wants to do, like picking fruit
randomgorillaAug 15, 2010
Oh great, now I'm hungry for strawberries...
kyanAug 15, 2010
not only that, the conditions in a camp these days would have to meet strict sanitary and space conditions. In fact, the conditions in that camp could be far better than in a lot of barrios!
I think the solution to this is really to make Arizona another country. All the whites can move out and the illegals can stay. Win-win for everyone!
northmassAug 14, 2010
This idiot sounds like FDR.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
It's a she.
I bought the idea of amnesty when Reagan was president. We weren't going to do it again. We were sold NAFTA, which was supposed to help prevent illegal immigration.
I often agree with you, but not here. We have terrible unemployment. There are places where illegals are provided with aid paid by the government.
Our immigration rules are more lax than Mexico's.
Something's gotta give.
northmassAug 14, 2010
Illegal immigration has lowered the last few years due to the bad recession, most of them came here for jobs. We should just make the whole process easier and open up our borders so we can at least check whether the immigrants coming in have a record of violent crime. I think this idea would work better, and I think you can agree that it is highly unrealistic to believe that deportation of all illegal immigrants makes any sense. It would cost untold billions of dollars, and honestly I think these people have a right to be here as long as they haven't committed a violent crime.
Even if we had open borders though, we would still have violence in states like Arizona because the drug cartels are now in the United States. I don't think that problem the drug cartels cause will ever go away until we legalize drugs, and cut off the drug cartel's revenue source. Drug cartels are the assh**es who are causing massive violence, not ordinary illegal immigrants.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
"On that one day in April, according to records obtained by ABC 15, Homeland Security officials were holding inmates from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Lebanon, and the Sudan.
“They’re coming from all over,” Arizona Senator Jon Kyl said. “And one wonders whether some of them are coming in here to commit acts of terror.”
Kyl has been tracking the problem since 2002, not long after the September 11 attacks. Since that time, according to an investigation by the House Committee on Homeland Security, intelligence officials have determined members of the terror group Hezbollah have already infiltrated the U.S. by crossing at the southern border.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spyderveloceAug 14, 2010
I would love to hear your twisted logic to support your idea that "illegal immigrants have a RIGHT to be here"!
northmassAug 14, 2010
I agree that is scary that terrorists have entered our country illegally, but how can you completely stop that threat unless you completely militarize the border? And not just the southern border, but the northern border and the Alaskan borders. Even if you do that, people could still come here through the ocean, are you going to militarize beaches? I agree this is a huge problem, and that we can have better enforcement of the borders, but I don't see how you can reduce that threat 100%.
tsk05Aug 14, 2010
@ quirkopatra
I agree that illegal immigration is a big problem. But aren't internment camps an even bigger problem?
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
TSK - I know that what this woman said has made a lot of people say "Nazi Germany"! But I think she actually said we should hold them and deport them...in short, what we are doing now.
I don't think she just said..."Put them all in camps indefinitely."
tsk05Aug 15, 2010
quirkopatra,
She said "ship them to the middle of the country and build high walls", hence she wants to segregate them from the other prisoners. That reeks of internment camps that we've already had in this country (the Japanese Internment Camps, which were done by Democrats by the way, do we want to repeat their mistakes?).Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lohphatAug 14, 2010
What's next GOP, Kristallnacht?
tsk05Aug 14, 2010
I don't know, what was next after FDR's Japanese Internment Camps? He was a Democrat and remains loved by them...
idunavailableAug 15, 2010
You mean he was a democrat SEVERAL DECADES ago and is loved by the vast majority of Americans, constantly ranking in the top 3 in Presidential ratings with Lincoln and Washington?
2004taxesAug 14, 2010
No, sweeping the House and Senate in the November.
Thanks for playing Democrats. You've wrecked our economy, killed the job market, and lessened our status in the world. Time for you to go.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cheater2000Aug 14, 2010
The GOP should change their logo to the swastika.
thecoolestguyAug 15, 2010
Because arresting people who illegally enter your country is so fascist..
cheater2000Aug 15, 2010
No but putting people into "camps" is.
thecoolestguyAug 15, 2010
It's just a semantic distinction.
neutron7Aug 15, 2010
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/neutron7/GOPTIKA.jpg
something nice and colorful though like this.
cheater2000Aug 15, 2010
That looks great. XD
virolaiAug 15, 2010
You should call nazis the 27 gobernments of European Union that supported the Directive of Return in 2008 that, among other things, allows detention of illegals up to 18 months before expulsion. You may not know that in Europe (the "enlightened Europe") even the far left does not advocated for automatic citizenship for anyone born on its soil.
beerrulesAug 15, 2010
Yah thats comparable, wanting to deport illegal immigrants and killing between 11 and 17 million people.
/s