blog.koldcast.tv — Benjamin Franklin once said, “Guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days.” Whether the guests are friends staying on the sofa, or political protestors taking over the city streets, there is a always a time to move on. That said, it is often great fun to go, and in the end, it is also fun to stay.
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cantstopwontstopFeb 4, 2012
The occupy movement is merely a lengthy protest. Many people aren't used to long protests and assume that a protest should only go on for a little while and then even if they still haven't changed anything, they should just give up and leave.
At this point if they keep going, you'll have beliefs of outsiders like in this article. if they give up, you'll have the very same people pointing fingers and laughing at them for failing. so damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's nothing these protestors can do right in their eyes.
Sure, some of these protestors have nowhere else to go, but that's part of what's being protested in the first place. Articles like these are just another attempt to sway people into brushing them under the rug as always. Just trying to live their privileged lives without having to see all of the people they deem 'garbage'. They foolishly think that they actually earned everything they have through sheer will. even your average upper middle class applies. They think that if you don't have anything, you didn't try hard enough.
But in reality, they only have a job because other people were rejected, and they didn't necessarily get that job because they were better at it or more qualified. They only have a college degree because mommy and daddy bought it for them. Soo many things in their life relies on chance and circumstance and they want to stroke their ego's by attributing all their success to themselves and themselves alone. They thrive on thinking they're better than others. But if one of any number of circumstances was different in their lives, they'd be a homeless bastard with rotting teeth too.
thehiddenprojecFeb 4, 2012
They already gave up. That's why they're squatting.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Can you let us in on "the hidden project", or is that just for the Illuminati?
eninen525Feb 4, 2012
getting in on a one-shot, global revolution only takes the right attitude /lurk
anomaly100Feb 3, 2012
Stereotype much? Wow...
WWZFeb 3, 2012
I think the whole Occupy thing is a total farce but these reasons, IMHO, are better than most to participate.
How is this stereotyping? These seem like pretty reasonable motives to me.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
sbuckley00Feb 4, 2012
I think the whole US government thing is a total farce... <== see what I did there?
WWZFeb 7, 2012
f**k, you are so funny and original.
norman619Feb 3, 2012
I think this is supposed to be funny. Which is was. :-P
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
"Stereotype much? Wow..."
I think I left that same comment when you were doing it to the Tea Party.
mlw4428Feb 4, 2012
Shut up, Alan.
Signed,
Everyone who isn't a DP (that's most of us).
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
I always though the DP (Digg Patriots) were Liberal since they pretty much have control of Digg, but then i see Liberal's calling Republicans DP's, and then Republicans calling Liberals DP's,...... wait a minute, i see now......
Both are Partisan hacks, right?
icwydFeb 4, 2012
Are you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity?
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Maybe both, what's your excuse? I'll guess stupidity, am i right?
icwydFeb 4, 2012
You must be a DP which means "your retarded"!
dildgopagginsFeb 4, 2012
it seems like the majority of the liberal digg users switched to reddit
njdoo7Feb 3, 2012
I'll give 5 reasons why this article in nonsense, and what the occupy movement seems most concerned about.
1. Record student debt levels
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44958852/Student_Loan_Debt_Hits_Record_Levels
2. Unemployed College Graduates As Vulnerable As High School Dropouts To Long-Term Unemployment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/long-term-unemployment-college-graduates_n_1250418.html
3. Record national debt levels they will be expected to pay, on top of student debt levels
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-adds-120-billion-debt-debt-ceiling-hike-friday-310-billion-more-deck-next-two-months
4. Baby boomers are retiring, leading to a record low percentage of the population working and contributing to SS & Medicare, while funding for these programs are dwindling. Something the younger generations will also have to pay for on top of national and student debt.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Participation%20Rate.jpg
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/05/medicare-social-security-obama-geithner-republicans/1
5. Debt/GDP levels have been rising rapidly, and correlate to financial sector income growth as well as correlating to income inequality:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/presenting-only-beneficiary-record-global-leverage
All while executives who created the current depression get bailed out and receive record bonuses, with the income gap widening in their favor (see 5).
njdoo7Feb 3, 2012
The goal of the occupy movement is really simple. To restore equality and justice.
While speaking about a global political awakening (centered in the developing and third world, but also applying to developed nations) National Security Adviser and geopolitical strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski outlined a "Global Political Awakening" in a 2008 address to the Council on Foreign Relations:
"For the first time in history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive. Global activism is generating a surge in the quest for cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world scarred by memories of colonial or imperial domination.
It is no overstatement to assert that now in the 21st century the population of much of the developing world is politically stirring and in many places seething with unrest. It is a population acutely conscious of social injustice to an unprecedented degree, and often resentful of its perceived lack of political dignity. The nearly universal access to radio, television and increasingly the Internet is creating a community of shared perceptions and envy that can be galvanized and channeled by demagogic political or religious passions. These energies transcend sovereign borders and pose a challenge both to existing states as well as to the existing global hierarchy, on top of which America still perches.
The youth of the Third World are particularly restless and resentful. The demographic revolution they embody is thus a political time-bomb, as well. With the exception of Europe, Japan and America, the rapidly expanding demographic bulge in the 25-year-old-and-under age bracket is creating a huge mass of impatient young people. Their minds have been stirred by sounds and images that emanate from afar and which intensify their disaffection with what is at hand. Their potential revolutionary spearhead is likely to emerge from among the scores of millions of students concentrated in the often intellectually dubious "tertiary level" educational institutions of developing countries. Depending on the definition of the tertiary educational level, there are currently worldwide between 80 and 130 million "college" students. Typically originating from the socially insecure lower middle class and inflamed by a sense of social outrage, these millions of students are revolutionaries-in-waiting, already semi-mobilized in large congregations, connected by the Internet and pre-positioned for a replay on a larger scale of what transpired years earlier in Mexico City or in Tiananmen Square. Their physical energy and emotional frustration is just waiting to be triggered by a cause, or a faith, or a hatred."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEHsUojUgzk
Brzezinski also wrote an op-ed about this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/opinion/16iht-YEbrzezinski.1.18730411.html
The occupy movement is an example of this global political awakening.
njdoo7Feb 3, 2012
"With the exception of Europe, Japan and America, the rapidly expanding demographic bulge in the 25-year-old-and-under age bracket is creating a huge mass of impatient young people."
Since 2008, this has changed. Look at the youth now in these countries.
novantiiFeb 3, 2012
I'm in my 20s and I hate the OWS movement, but then again I'm a medical student who works their ass off.
Every "OWS" piece of s**t I've met was a lazy pot head who majored in some slacker/party subject and was suprised -- like a retard -- that they're now in financial debt.
A modern country can not survive off of a population of unemployed stoners who hang out on the internet 24/7 producing nothing, only working when their parents get fed up and force them to, don't you get it? Modern America/Europe's "poor" are the luckiest people in the world. They do almost none of the work yet receive mercy and benefits unseen throughout human history.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ageofmasteryFeb 3, 2012
Playing doctor with your sister does not qualify as being a medical student.
norman619Feb 3, 2012
Neither do your "gynocological" examinations of your mom but I'm not judging....
njdoo7Feb 4, 2012
You have only met people from OWS in your imagination.
sbuckley00Feb 4, 2012
You CLEARY have no clue what the movement is about. And I have been to many of the encampment and what you describe is simply not true. Are there some lazy people at the movements? well of course cause the movement will bring all types of people to it. However, this certainly does not describe the majority of those in the movement. The majority, in some way or another, understand the corruption that is going on in this country. They understand that generally speaking corruption has taken over the government and laws are made to make the 1 percent richer at the expense of the rest of the humans on this planet.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
So, you have have never really met one?
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
What's your name? That way when I see your name at a clinic I can move on to the next one.
"You have cancer."
"What kind doctor?"
" . . . Cancer . . . the general annoying kind . . . "
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
Your hatred is irrational and you've obviously never met anyone in the OWS movement. Go back to school and bask in your feelings of superiority.
ganjadude4391Feb 5, 2012
your hatred is irrational and you've obviously never met anyone in the tea party movement. Go back to school and bask in your feelings of superiority....
see how that works? Broad generalizations are general
letherialFeb 4, 2012
Good on you falling for and defending the big banks and money interest that spreads this kind of propaganda.
Glenn beck called, he wants his hate back.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
There you go spreading the truth around again, careful, you may make some of their heads explode.
RipplebyPebbleFeb 4, 2012
initially probably...at this point you're probably high on your own s**t fumes.
norman619Feb 4, 2012
You are being WAY too kind...
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Your being way to obnoxious again.
demhater123Feb 5, 2012
the OWS is a joke.. Their lack of media coverage now displays how much of it was just a FAD and to get attention like little kids do to their parents. OWS is baseless, irrational, unrealistic, and lazy. Not sure where this feeling of Entitlement arose from. But thats not how most people were properly brought up. Just work hard, stop looking for handouts, and be appreciative with what you have. Or just move to canada please.
njdoo7Feb 4, 2012
You cannot get high on s**t fumes. Else you would bag your s**t instead of flushing it..duh.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
I know I would . . .
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
At least nj's s**t fumes are truthful, unlike your "fantasy s**t fumes", talk to Alice lately?
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
Honey, you need to spit it out fast because your comments are longer than the article. You are obviously passionate and your arguments are probably impressive if I had another hour to read them.
Start a blog, write an article about your awakenings, then post to Digg.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
novantiiFeb 3, 2012
Why don't you look up some real statistics about student debt and unemployment.
How many medical school graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a doctor shortage.
How many pharmacy school graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a pharmacist shortage.
How many engineering graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's an engineer shortage.
How many computer science graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a computer scientist shortage.
If those are too "tough" for you (lazy assh**e) then there's an extremely bright outlook for accounting graduates, nursing graduates, networking graduates, teaching graduates, etc.
The pieces of s**t who have $500,000 in student debt and can't find jobs are "party kids" who majored in crap like dance, sociology, afro studies, and art. That covers 99% of the pieces of s**t at my university. None of them will have jobs when they graduate, but they expect those of us who actually study and work in difficult subjects to pay their welfare checks.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
norman619Feb 3, 2012
Those are the kids who really never should have gone to college in the first place.
njdoo7Feb 4, 2012
I have a computer science degree in software engineering, that I acquired in 42 months. I even interned as a software engineer for 12 of those months 20 hours/week while taking 17 credits and maintaining a high GPA.
I have been employed full-time since I graduated and don't have any student debt.
In other words, I am more successful than you are in the real world...I'm beyond being a student...sorry to break your ego trip.
thehiddenprojecFeb 4, 2012
+1. I'm exactly the same as you. But to add, I worked for free as an intern for 2 years.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
"How many medical school graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a doctor shortage.
How many pharmacy school graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a pharmacist shortage."
True, but who in their right mind wants to be neck deep in debt, there is a reason for the shortage, cost.
"How many engineering graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's an engineer shortage.
How many computer science graduates can't find jobs? Almost none. There's a computer scientist shortage."
Not True, the country is saturated with them, there is not enough jobs to go around.
"The pieces of s**t who have $500,000 in student debt and can't find jobs are "party kids" who majored in crap like dance, sociology, afro studies, and art. That covers 99% of the pieces of s**t at my university. None of them will have jobs when they graduate, but they expect those of us who actually study and work in difficult subjects to pay their welfare checks."
Jealous? or just naturally hostile as hell. Keep up the hostilely, you'll do well in interviews with that mind set.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Yea, worst. Doctor. Ever.
thehiddenprojecFeb 4, 2012
Well, you have to be honest. What can people really do with degrees in sociology, dance, or art? I would like to have my eyes opened. When I was in high school applying, I thought only three actual majors where I could make money. 1) Medical 2) Law 3) Engineering.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Some, very few, can do very well. Salary.com
Quite a few very well paid actors and directors have these types of degrees.
What, no business major? That's what i had to settle on, spend two years in law, but had to drop due to lack of funds. It's a bitch when you run out of money. Back in my day, yes i'm old, college loans were not passed out like candy.
thehiddenprojecFeb 4, 2012
Sorry. I meant buisness/law.
But not everyone can be a famous director or actor...Not very practical degree.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Sounds like my ideal vacation, go sit in the rain and cold, with a bunch of other people yelling and screaming about inequality,
eninen525Feb 4, 2012
there are more quiet ones too, though. i think they're conspiring about 2012 conspiracies. digg has long prophecized about the ninjas
tyhoFeb 5, 2012
The Occupests will be a minor footnote, if that, in American history, remembered for the unrest caused, not for any contribution of a positive nature.
schmuckofniFeb 4, 2012
List one thing this protest has accomplished.
helpingallneedsFeb 4, 2012
I support the Occupy Movement!
thespookFeb 4, 2012
I support hygiene and personal responsibility!
h8f8kesFeb 4, 2012
I support the idea of standing up for your beliefs, but am on the fence for the occupy movement. Being organized by a Canadian magazine well before the election with full knowledge Romney (aka Gordon Gekko) is going to be the nominee and funded by progressive organizations it almost looks like astro turf.
I also find it interesting how the media portrays the occupy movement as opposed to how they portrayed the tea party. If the media shows a bias that pretty much tells me the fix is in.
helpingallneedsFeb 4, 2012
The media is always showing nes with a bias opinion. Instead of letting humans grow and shine they oppress us by holding all of the knowledge. Could you imagine if we knew what the "elite" knew. We would have cured cancer, hiv, (I think they already have a cure) and everything else. Heck we might be flying at light speeds. But instead of billions of people being able to get the information that is already available we spend decades trying to find it out again..... Devolution if you ask me.....
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
Yes, I think they have an experimental HIV cure, although it is difficult to arrange. Basically you need a bone marrow transplant from a donor that has two copies of a specific gene in his genome. The donor with two copies of that gene will be immune to the standard HIV virus because that's how the virus attacks the immune system. With the bone marrow transplant people apparently become immune to the virus.
The problem is that it is a very expensive and difficult to arrange cure. You need not just a matching bone marrow donor, but also one with the specific genes.
Another potential cure involves somehow activating or changing the genes in the patient - in his bone marrow stem cells, I think. I am not sure how it's done, but it seems to be fairly promising. It may need to be customized and specially done for every individual patient separately, though.
pc25Mar 6, 2012
or defecate
geeknizerFeb 3, 2012
i hate politics
norman619Feb 3, 2012
I hate sardines.
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
I hate when people get defined by their politics when there are many other qualities of a person that are more important.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
You tell em'
adaguyFeb 5, 2012
'I hate when people get defined by their politics when there are many other qualities of a person that are more important.'
I have read enough of your posts, that I doubt that you have this problem, yourself.
Closed AccountFeb 3, 2012
Why are right wingers so threatened by OWS?
"Fully half of Americans oppose the tea party political movement, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, and “strong” opponents outnumber strong supporters by a 2 to 1 margin. Four in 10 adults continue to back the movement, but an ideological split between more and less committed tea party supporters also threatens prospects of a unified front in 2012."
--Oh... ;-x
Tea party opposed by half of Americans
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/behind-the-numbers/post/tea-party-opposed-by-half-of-americans/2012/01/03/gIQAsUVm5P_blog.html
Graf_OrlockFeb 3, 2012
We're not threatened. You're mistaking disgust and laughter for fear.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
Wow, there are still some people that admit that they are tea partyers?
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
For real. I thought they all died in Iowa from eating them fried butter sticks.
Graf_OrlockFeb 4, 2012
I'm not a tea partier, but I don't believe in indulging spoiled children who poorly chose their majors either.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
Ah, OK. Although you do realize that the OWS does not consist solely out of college students, right? There are plenty of people that lost their jobs through no fault of their own, lost their homes - again through no fault of their own, ran into bad luck, etc.
Even the college students do have a point. While many of them possibly chose unwise majors, not all of them did so. They are right that college tuition has skyrocketed, but the number of jobs they could get to pay off that tuition has plummeted. And the jobs that are available are much worse these days than those that have been available before.
Look here: http://www.verumserum.com/media/2011/10/OWS-profile1-10-18-11-sent-v2-HRCG.pdf
While only about 24% of respondents to the survey actually participated in the protests, all of them agree with OWS.
30% of OWS is over the age of 35. 20% is over the age of 45. Not exactly "spoiled children".
73% were not in school at the time of the survey.
50% were employed full-time. 20% more were employed part-time.
70% of the people considered themselves independent - not democrat or republican.
Graf_OrlockFeb 4, 2012
And yet the camp I used to walk by daily was 90% 20-something college kids, with a variety of causes (nothing particularly unified), with a definite reek of patchouli and urine. The other 10% were homeless.
I'll take personal experience above polling any day.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dauntless1Feb 4, 2012
@graf_orlock
"And yet the camp I used to walk by daily was 90% (people I never actually talked to or listened to, because I would never be adult enough to threaten my world-view with reality, and because since the dawn of history it's been popular to look down on those younger and more educated than I am.)" with a variety of causes (nothing I want to understand, because I might have to engage in a little introspection that would be incredibly uncomfortable), with a definite (insert hygiene generalization here, mistakenly thinking that smell = argument wrong). The other 10% were (made up numbers because I never actually talked to them, because I mistakenly think I'm better).
FTFY
Graf_OrlockFeb 5, 2012
@dauntless
I don't need to talk to them, their placards tell exactly what they're calling for - ending the Fed, forgiving student loans and getting money out of politics. I agree with that last one. and I don't look down on them because it's popular (though if they are the 99%, how can that be the case?). Rather I look down on them because they're spoiled, muddled, and increasingly violent.
I have nothing to be introspective about. I'm successful because I have planned, worked my butt off and have driven my skills to meet what the market needs. They are not successful because they have failed to do the same.
Everyone has setbacks. You plan for them, don't take out the second mortgage for things you don't need, and focus on what will make you successful with the least expense/debt possible. Sitting in a drum circle and chanting slogans doesn't do dick.
And their personal hygiene is a pretty strong indicator of whether they're worth listening to. I generally don't spend much time in in-depth philosophical conversations with people who've pissed themselves or have just smoked a blunt, as I find they generally don't have much to say of value. Perhaps you don't have the same threshold.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
Thanks, but that doesn't explain why right wingers are more obsessed with hating on OWS than they are with the horrifying debacle aka tea party movement. America literally believes you people are destroying the country--and you're here diddling yourselves over OWS. You don't make sense.
ganjadude4391Feb 5, 2012
you love making s**t up dont you? america does not "literally" believe that the tea party is destroying the country. IF we are going to use facts we pull from our asses, america also believes obama is literally destroying america.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
"I'll take personal experience above polling any day."
Ah, I see. You take your personal and rather prejudiced experience with a few dozen guys in one particular location to judge a movement of millions of people (at least).
Sure, that makes sense. </s>
Graf_OrlockFeb 5, 2012
Millions? Please.
The largest protest so far was ~20k or so, and that was early in the movement when it acted as an umbrella for everything from ending corporate campaign donations to ending capitalism and installing a marxist state.
I'll grant that OWS is made up of largely young people, wealthier, educated but underemployed, who are calling for a variety of causes. Some resonate more broadly (probably those used in your poll to determine who agrees with OWS, like limiting corporate donations), and others fall flat. Despite what you say, there are jobs available today, and they're not all at Starbucks. But you have to apply yourself and work hard to get into them. It's always been like that in a recession. Every recession, not just this one. Some people just don't want to hear that - they'd rather blame the system and call for it to be brought down -- though not do that work themselves, either.
Given I've been working in San Francisco and Oakland, near two of the larger Occupy camps, I'm pretty sure my direct exposure to the placards and messaging trumps what blog soundbites and polls could tell me. A lot of these guys act exactly like the trolls we had back at Berkeley when I was there. Not even the messages have changed much. Some folks may be older, trying to relive their college years, but they sure do fit the same mold. Chanting "all cops are bastards" isn't all that endearing to most people. Self-styled revolutionaries may make for interesting stories when you're 18, but it's kind of sad when you're 35.
If you want me to be truly prejudiced, I could just say the entire movement is nothing but rapists, anarchists, and marxists who love nothing more than taking a dump on a police cruiser. Clearly they're not all like that. But by the same token, they're not all fine upstanding, hardworking "just folks" who are truly representative of the 99%. Otherwise you wouldn't have polls showing that less than 30% agree with their messaging or antics. And that was before they started breaking into hotels and throwing furniture off the roof (SF two weeks ago) or setting fires in Oakland.
Not that it matters. The movement's jumped the shark.
elimgarakFeb 5, 2012
"Millions? Please."
Largest single protest - as Kasha mentioned somewhere, at least 37% of US supports OWS - that's over 100 million people. Not everybody who is for OWS marches in the streets or sits outside.
"Despite what you say, there are jobs available today, and they're not all at Starbucks."
Yes, 15-20% unemployment is all in our minds. </s>
"But by the same token, they're not all fine upstanding, hardworking "just folks" who are truly representative of the 99%."
Nobody said that there aren't idiots and hangers-on among them. Bug classifying the entire movement as spoiled children is just wrong.
"Otherwise you wouldn't have polls showing that less than 30% agree with their messaging or antics"
A huge part of this is that there is no single coherent message - it is all rather messy. Plus there is tons of counter-propaganda from people like you. Which STILL does not mean that they are all spoiled children.
Graf_OrlockFeb 6, 2012
Glad to clarify that on the major points, we're in agreement.
novantiiFeb 3, 2012
I'm offended by OWS because I'm a medical school student.
The largest group in the top one percent of US incomes are doctors and surgeons.
We spend 10+ years studying chemistry, math, biology, etc every day of our lives while you guys take dumps on cop cars, and you tell us that we're lazy rich guys. You make me sick. If you hate us so much then why don't you protest us by treating your own cancer. We are just soooo evil.
1stjonnydeeFeb 4, 2012
Kid, you are going to be a very s**tty doctor.
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
And you are going to be employee of the month and your photo will be hanging up in the break room at Circuit City.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
al? That Circuit City employee will always have more self-respect than a racist self-loathing Log Cabin homo who trolls sites like Digg and whores his tiny soul to a party that thinks gay people are the lowest slime of the earth. Remember that, sweetcakes. ;-PComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomheartmotherFeb 4, 2012
That kind of bigoted, venomous comment reveals what a bitter, petty, hateful human being you are.
Graf_OrlockFeb 5, 2012
What a surprise... someone in a "victim" demographic doesn't agree with the progressive program, so he gets a nice message of hate as a response. Stay classy, Koolaid.
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
novantii, DAMN good comment. You are going to be a damn fine doctor. Well said.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
Get off your scabby knees and stop trolling, al. You're disgraceful. There's more to life than swallowing everything the GOP feeds you. Get some backbone.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Why would you be offended, their not after you or your group, do i need to spell out OWS, ok, Occupy Wall Street. Their pissed at the rich on wall street, the bankers, big corporations, you know, the ones controlling our government, the ones screwing up the country for the 99%.
I am glad you are becoming a doctor, hope your not neck deep in debt that takes the first 10 years of practice to pay off. But you have no reason to be offended. I am sure a lot of them would love to be in your shoes.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
So basically what you're saying is that all you know about OWS is what you read in the right wing media. Why do you think being an expert in medicine should be an excuse for being extremely poorly informed about what's going on in the world? Which OWS people have you actually talked to? What do you actually know about OWS that isn't based on far right wing biased media sources (which you clearly favor)?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dauntless1Feb 4, 2012
Nothing. Which is al most right-wingers know about anything really.
adaguyFeb 5, 2012
When you are making house calls to the poverty regions and charging nothing for your services, when you are delivering children at home for $25.00, when you are accepting produce from your patients that they have grown on their small acreages, and brought to you to pay their bill, (because they have no money) then you will have something to complain about.
But today, the medical profession is nothing but the same class of people that make up the nations lawyers.
Being a doctor requires giving much more of yourself that you will ever get in return.
norman619Feb 3, 2012
I know there are people who laugh when they are scared or upset but that's not what this is. The laughter is the result of being amused by people like you. We are laughing at you not with you nor out of fear.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
Yes, the right wingers are threatened by a bunch of sleeping bags all thrown together in one big mosh.
barackalypseFeb 4, 2012
"When asked of which movement they have a higher opinion, voters side
with the Tea Party now, 43-37"
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_US_11161023.pdf
That survey should put to rest any idea that Americans support OWS.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
Umm... Wrong. 37% of Americans apparently support OWS.
barackalypseFeb 4, 2012
Which isn't anything even approaching a majority. My reply was missing the word "most" in front of Americans. Some small number of Americans likely support anything no matter how stupid.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
37% is not a small number. According to these numbers that's over 100 million.
barackalypseFeb 4, 2012
Which means 63% don't support them or have no opinion, and that's over 200 million.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
Not to mention that the 6% difference is probably within the margin of error for a poll like this. If Donald Trump sneezes next week it can flip.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
Or if the Donald endorses the Tea Party. Watch em' drop like a rock.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Yaaaay, more Americans support the corporations' bitch. Those are some very promising numbers!
barackalypseFeb 4, 2012
Right, because obviously none of those people could actually be acting in their own best self-interest, they're either with OWS or they're obeying the will of their corporate masters. There is no other way it could be. /sComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Sorry, much like you see the OWS folks as a bunch of dirty slacker hippies, i see the TP people as a bunch of dumb dirty rednecks who have no idea what's in their interest and got suckered into an on all fours position for corporations.
Graf_OrlockFeb 4, 2012
Surprise, there are conservatives who aren't part of the tea party. And we still think of OWS as a bunch of spoiled slackers with violent tendencies.
Case in point, have a look at Occupy Oakland's plan for a violent protest this evening. They've asked all "nonviolent" protestors to stay home tonight.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tehravenFeb 5, 2012
Huh, seems to have not happened, and the protesters were overjoyed that there was no violence . . . huhhhhh
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
LOL. Gee, where to begin...So we're supposed to get meaningful data from a poll asking what people thought about OWS back at the beginning of November--when the movement was two or three weeks old (and when we have no reason to believe people either knew what OWS was or what it stood for)? Priceless.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ganjadude4391Feb 5, 2012
why skip this article??? doesnt fit your talking points?? more people support the tea party than OWS....
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/11/16/support-for-occupy-wall-street-drops-in-poll/
Public support for the Occupy Wall Street movement is down and opposition up sharply in a new national survey taken by the Democratic-leaning firm of Public Policy Polling.
By a narrow margin, more of those surveyed have a higher opinion of the Tea Party movement than Occupy Wall Street, according to the poll taken Nov. 10 to 13, as authorities ordered OWS encampments dismantled in a number of cities.
“What the downturn in Occupy Wall Street’s image suggest is that voters are seeing the movement as more about ‘Occupy’ than ‘Wall Street.’ The controversy over the protests is starting to drown out the actual message,” wrote Tom Jensen of Public Policy Polling.
In the latest survey, 33 percent voiced support for Occupy Wall Street, down from 35 percent in a previous poll, while opposition to the movement climbed from 36 percent to 45 percent. Twenty-two percent were unsure.
The poll asked: “Do you have a higher opinion of the Occupy Wall Street movement or the Tea Party movement?” Forty-three percent opted for Tea Party, 37 percent for the occupiers.
spider_manFeb 4, 2012
They think they have it so bad and they pull this crap. Young people during the depression didn't do this. They knew they had to pull themselves up and work out of it. Some people are born at a time that makes life more difficult than others. No one ever promised life was always fair and no one can.
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
"Young people during the depression didn't do this."
That's right, they just went around and stole food or waited in soup lines so they could eat. Hard to mass protest when your severally malnourished and can't afford to buy a bus ticket..
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Thank you for pointing out a period in time where the wealthy seriously f**ked the poor over. Thank you OWS for opposing this.
Oh and if you think people were all chipper during this period . . . you might need to do a bit more reading . . .
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
You need a serious refresher course in history and you have no idea what OWS is about. Back during the Depression we sacrificed as a country. We rationed food and gas and the top tax rate was 63%. We didn't have Presidents waging multiple wars, encouraging people to shop and burn up gas, and giving tax cuts to the extremely wealthy.
Graf_OrlockFeb 3, 2012
Oh the irony...
Closed AccountFeb 3, 2012
cause they want evrything handed to them on a GD silver platter. but that is not how the world works and they are gonna learn that the hard way eventually.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
alanocuFeb 4, 2012
Precious little snowflakes in their own little minds.
I don't look at the rich as the enemy. I look at them as an opportunity. Bemoan the rich or make them your friend. Guess which one will get you a good-paying job?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
or you could become one....by working hard.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
"Bemoan the rich or make them your friend. Guess which one will get you a good-paying job?"
Soooooooo, get in based on your friendship, not on your ability . . . I think that's part of the problem . . .
Schweppesale2Feb 4, 2012
It's all about who you know.
That's how the real world works.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Yep, and unfortunately the extremely wealthy are keeping it all within the class and that's why we need annoying little smelly bastards sitting around being nuisances. It's how the little people can TRY and have a voice in this crazy little world of ours.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
im getting dugg down by the digg patriots for telling the truth.
is this a badge of honor?
rufiohoFeb 3, 2012
The entire movement for some reasons reminds me of the hippie movement... but I know there is no basis for that comparison
novantiiFeb 3, 2012
Nah a bunch of people who majored in art and dance appreciation who are surprised they aren't making 6 figures straight out of college aimlessly wandering the streets doing drugs and whining about "the man".
Nothing like the hippies...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
RipplebyPebbleFeb 4, 2012
I don't think even hippies smelled as bad as some of the occupiers
thehiddenprojecFeb 4, 2012
I always wondered why colleges even offered those majors. That and sports, which sucks a good bit of the college funding
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
True - that makes me feel better about OWS. Hippies are all about counter culture, against authority, etc. All of that is rather admirable in my book.
Frankly I don't see the reason for all the hate against hippies. Unless you identify with the authority and take the resistance to the culture personally. In which case you deserve to be rebelled against.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Translation: You're an assh**e.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
... Are you sure you are not projecting your own feelings about yourself?
Why exactly do you think I am an assh**e? Are you threatened by hippies? Do you privately think that you are "the man"?
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Rofl, ummmmmmmm, wanna cut back on the anger and defensiveness? I know this is digg but we must think and understand language.
Generally translations are for the benefit of the intended audience, not the speaker. My translation was geared towards whoever you were saying "In which case you deserve to be rebelled against." So . . . technically I'm on your side . . .Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 4, 2012
"Rofl, ummmmmmmm, wanna cut back on the anger and defensiveness? I know this is digg but we must think and understand language."
I agree, but you did call me an assh**e without provocation.
" My translation was geared towards whoever you were saying "In which case you deserve to be rebelled against." So . . . technically I'm on your side . . ."
Ah! I see - my bad. Sorry for escalating immediately. :-P
Although I would say that you did not express yourself very clearly - I suspect most people read your message the way I did. Still, you are absolutely right - I should not have gotten angry and taken it personally immediately. Sorry again.
nitoriFeb 4, 2012
I used to hate hippies and pot heads but then I learned they are not my true enemies and I should not hate someone just because they are different.
I also learned about the truth behind the prohibition on cannabis and that everything I was taught about it as a kid was largely wrong.
Instead it's the authoritarian conservatives and the more selfish members of the top .5% that are dragging the country down.
elimgarakFeb 5, 2012
Yes - I know people that used to smoke lots and lots of pot, and then became very productive members of society. Business owners, IT specialists, network managers, etc.
About the only bad thing I know about hippies is that they are sometimes somewhat unkempt, and they often smell of weed. Which is rather pungent. But that's not a good reason to hate an entire sub-culture.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
OWS should take a hint from the tea party and run primary challengers against pro-war, anti-internet democrats.
jlaughFeb 4, 2012
Since when did a sitting president have challengers in his own party?
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
i was thinking the house, like in 2010. The tea party wasn't around when bushwar was re-elected.
Closed AccountFeb 5, 2012
haha, 4 fascist buried me calling the ex-pres "bushWAR" hate on haterz...
angrycat70Feb 3, 2012
just a bunch of dope smokers hanging out smelling up the place
FrankLuskaFeb 4, 2012
and all this time, they thought it was you.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
Seems like right wingers are really desperate to discredit them. That alone suggests to me they're doing something right.
slearwigFeb 4, 2012
And America is just an excuse to defend your Rights.
When was the last time your career politico representative actually listened to You?
When was the last time you actually tried to tell him/her to respect your instructions, particularly when they opposed your Rights?
Dang, I want to make a lifetime career out of a job whre I can ignore The Boss and The Customers myself.
Just do what I want to and take the peoples money for thanking myself at their expense, and at the end of the day tell myself that I did the work, not you.
barfomaticFeb 4, 2012
I support the ideals of OWS but I no longer support the group for a couple of reasons.
First is the violent confrontations with the police. Yes I know that the cops are partly to blame but the protesters help to fuel the violence as well and at times it seems that they provoke it. Making the cop look the fool is much better than making yourself look like one.
Second. What were you thinking when you went to college ? Did you draw up a financial plan on how to pay for it all ? Did you look at your major and see if it was a financially viable one ? Case in point. I was watching a newscast when this all started and they had one of the protesters on screen. After speaking about the cause he was asked about his debt and his major.He replied that he had a Masters and a debt load of 110K and couldn't find a job. Asked what his Masters was in, he replied "Puppetry " I just shook my head !
Seems a lot college aged people are lost as to what to expect in the real world and would rather follow their dream than deal with reality.
jlaughFeb 4, 2012
Your complaining about choices teens make? Teens not planning?! No s**t teens would rather follow their dream.
Besides which why focus on college kids in OWS most of the protesters I've seen are working class people in their 40's and 50's.
No there's no corruption in America, no decline, no thieves running banks, no government which ships in drugs and dumps them on poor communities, while using the drug war as an excuse to confiscate peoples property and increase there budgets, no police brutality, no out of control military industrial complex.
barfomaticFeb 4, 2012
I'm not complaining about the goals of OWS. I'm complaining about the seeming lack of job skills that these people have. I never went to college yet in my last year of work before I retired, I made 82K. and I retired early! I live in a town with 12% unemployment,yet I still turn down job offers! Both my sons are college grads and had NO debt when they left school. They work in their chosen professions and make more than I ever did.
One last thing.What really pisses me off is people such as your self that bitch about everything that is wrong with the US. DO you vote? Do you go to town meetings ? Do you do anything that will affect the government in a positive way or change what is wrong ?
My guess is that you'd rather squat in a park somewhere singing Kumbya and passing a bowl around! Hey the world is what you make of it,do something with it !!
jlaughFeb 7, 2012
I most certainly do vote. I never sing Kumbya anywhere.
dauntless1Feb 4, 2012
"Besides which why focus on college kids in OWS most of the protesters I've seen are working class people in their 40's and 50's."
Because desperation makes them paint the entire OWS with a brush they can safely ignore. If they don't, they're going to figure out just how many of those people have a legitimate grievance, and just how easy it could be them out there.
nitoriFeb 4, 2012
If they were just squatting there are hundreds of far better places to do so where no one would really care.
atomicjimmymackFeb 5, 2012
Where are all of these deluded right-wing anti-intellectual posts coming from ? Anyone ? Anyone ? Bueller ?
kcast985Feb 3, 2012
what a great article destroying the OWS movement and telling the real reasons why they are there through comedy
norman619Feb 3, 2012
You gotta laugh at diggers like AntiKoolaid and Njdoo7. Their comments on this are hilarious. Comedy from the article and comedy from diggers. win-win!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountFeb 4, 2012
norms, you only laugh because you're so poorly educated that you can't refute any of our arguments. Seems to me that makes you the joke (again).
norman619Feb 5, 2012
Rationalizing your ignorance. Can't handle the truth eh? How sad...
gkiltzFeb 4, 2012
It has come time to move it to the halls of power, and out of the parks.
ereneeFeb 4, 2012
started by anonymous, with no direction home, easy to be subsumed and subverted.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Maybe someone should get to it then . . .
anglosaxongalFeb 4, 2012
But I shall leave it to my higher power and that will be done deal....
anglosaxongalFeb 4, 2012
Too bad none of them has killed you spoiled rich assh**es. I would, if I had the chance. Heathens have no right to hurt others. But you have the right to die. Tell you buddies. It's coming. You shall reap what your pagan daddy has sown.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tehravenFeb 4, 2012
Yea . . . wow . . . yikes . . . Totally not what OWS is about . . .
ganjadude4391Feb 5, 2012
right.... reported!
anglosaxongalFeb 5, 2012
Reported? I tell all the govmint men and cops on my twitter ALWAYS what I THINK! Do YOU???