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beshirthappyMay 22, 2011
Someone is eating crow today....
Closed AccountMay 22, 2011
nothing makes you look more silly than being proved wrong by a fairytale.
sognarMay 22, 2011
If it is a fairytale, macmcrae, then it is not proof of anything. If you are not a believer than you probably shouldn't use the Bible as evidence of others stupidity. It seems pretty oxymoronic, emphasis on the moronic.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tangelojimMay 22, 2011
I rarely log in to digg, and have never commented, but the logic you use is so obviously flawed. It doesn't matter whether you're a believer or not. The supposed prophecy was derived from the very same book that says doing so is impossible. With that in mind I think it makes them look even more foolish.
p3ngwinMay 22, 2011
you lost him at "logic".
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
Ah, you must be an Atheist with your adorable Circular Logic.
countess666May 23, 2011
@darkeforce
wait... what?
pyronaviMay 23, 2011
I find that Christians use circular logic far more than any Atheist.
woollymittensMay 23, 2011
Did someone teach you those words to brush off people debating you? Since you capitalise "Circular Logic", I don't think you actually know the meaning.
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
Christians use personal, subjective experience to justify their logic. Atheists use.... nothing to justify their circular logic.
Again, it's adorable that you think atheism makes logical sense. It's a common delusion. Since most atheists are ex-Christians all they're really doing is trading one religion for another, and no amount of Digg-downs are going to change that.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johnnyohhhMay 24, 2011
To Darkeforce1
"Christians use personal, subjective experience to justify their logic."
No, Christians use personal, subjective experience to justify their beliefs.
"Again, it's adorable that you think atheism makes logical sense. It's a common delusion. Since most atheists are ex-Christians all they're really doing is trading one religion for another, and no amount of Digg-downs are going to change that."
Again, it's adorable that you think any for of religion makes logical sense. It's a common delusion. Atheism is not a religion, there are organized atheists, but that is no different than a political party. Atheists choose NOT TO believe in what cannot be proven, while anyone involved in religion chooses TO believe what cannot be proven. Logic is defined as:
"Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity". DO you still think that being religious is logical?
pyronaviMay 24, 2011
@darkforce, so... Can you give us an example of Atheistic circular logic?
Darkeforce1May 25, 2011
The fact that the basic principles of Atheism can only be individually proven if you assume that all the other principles are true first.
And then there's the fact they they expect God to be a performing monkey to cater to them, and declare that He doesn't exist when He doesn't perform on cue.
Then there's the fact that they assume that they could even begin to understand the reasoning and logic of a Higher Being; that's the one that makes all Atheists just egotistical arses. They supplant God by making themselves "god". Talk about your ego-trips!
And yes, despite your prejudices, Christianity can be logical. Building from the personal evidence, logic can be applied to all aspects of the Christian experience. The fact that many people don't doesn't mean that it can't. A lot of very clever, very logical people are Christians.
As I have said; I am not religious; I'm a man of Faith; and Faith is an essential part of the Human Condition; Atheists like to assume that we can live without faith, but that's simply not true. We all have beliefs and assumptions we follow, even if you surround those beliefs with circular logic and an assh**ish attitude.
Despite what they try to tell you, Athiests *BELIEVE* that there is no God. They cannot prove that, so that means that they have made a leap of faith based on their own personal experiences to say that. And seeing that the typical "personal experiences" that atheists use to justify their faith are pretty universally childish and puerile, you really can't expect much sense from them.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
p3ngwinMay 25, 2011
@Darkforce1
"Despite what they try to tell you, Athiests *BELIEVE* that there is no God. They cannot prove that, so that means that they have made a leap of faith based on their own personal experiences to say that"
if i have a coin, and i put it in one hand, then close both hands. i ask you what hand has the coin, and you correctly tell me the hand. then i ask you "is there a coin in the other hand, to which you correctly tell me "no" without needed it opened to be proven.
now, we did not exist to witness the universe come into existence, if it even had a beginning. yet to say that atheists "believe" there is no God, using the term "believe" to mean "faith", is a falsehood.
Atheists "believe" based on expected results, what will happen in the future based on it's history: evidence.
i believe the sun will rise tomorrow, even though i have no "proof" that t will by seeing the future. i will simply believe that it will because history suggests it will. a reality of consistency.
if you can demonstrate it, it can be observed and then studied further, perhaps it's mechanisms of existence understood and predictions made to improve our lives.
no evidence=no existence. (if you can not "sense" it, how do you know it exists?)
inconsistent evidence=not proof (needs to adhere to reality and it's laws unless it is a paradigm truth that warrants re-writing the books)
inconsistent evidence is only evidence that inconstancy, it does not prove a trend enough tht you can say "see that? my cat ate a banana, therefore all cats eat bananas".
likewise if the sun rises enough times without fail, we can safely say that it will do likewise tomorrow, but we can not say that a God exists based on the inconsistent reports 200 years ago written by over 20 authors spread over a century and a half.
since then little to noting but increasing failures to prove that such things ever existed as told in the ancient "proofs".
incidents like this year's recent My 21st fiasco only add to the growing evidence of "a God of gaps".
if evidence is synonymous with knowledge and truth, then where is the truth of a God? every time it is presented or predicted, it fails to maintain it's consistency under scrutiny. every time we are told "proof is here, no here, oh look over there it is"...we are constantly disappointed.
this is why he has become known as the "God of gaps", as where ever we are told he is, he is not there, he is always somewhere we have not considered.
if Adam and Eve truly were banished from the Garden of Eden for eating of the tree of knowledge, then knowledge is evil. if knowledge is evil, then it would explain a God's aversion to exposing himself to disbelievers such as Atheists who would scrutinize his existence.
If knowledge is evil, then truly "the Devil is with the details (knowledge)".
there is a reason that the religious zealots banned learning, controlling information, and punishing those who disobeyed. if knowledge were free to be scrutinies and thought encouraged, then God would have a harder time existing in the minds of believers, especially against a consistent reality that would compare unfavorably to show his flaws.
knowledge is truth, and the truth is we have no valid knowledge worth believing that a religious God exists.
that is what Atheists like me believe, that reality is consistent truth.
rethreadMay 22, 2011
AHA!! The ruse to get you to post has worked! And I... I.. shall be the first follower of the logical man, until the end of TIME.
Dec 21 of next year according to the Mayan calendar. HAHA, Onward to Destiny!
Closed AccountMay 23, 2011
hehehehe jesus had a badass mayan calendar in his garage. it had lots of hot topless mayan girls with too much eye makeup draped over muscle cars.
amigabillMay 23, 2011
What if the Mayans were not predicting the end of the world on that date? Maybe they just ran out of room, and that's the last that fit. Heck, that takes up far into our future, it will be our great-great-great-...grandchildren who will have to start the calender over. Won't be our problem, and it will last for many generations anyway as it is. So let's not change it...
Closed AccountMay 23, 2011
what if bulls**t ignorant mayan prophesy and bulls**t ignorant christian prophesy were mutually exclusive? you can't believe in both without some serious cognitive dissonance. but you are obviously too f**king stupid to understand such a simple statement.
woollymittensMay 23, 2011
Go to a book shop and try to find a calendar for the year 2473 and then stop wondering why the Mayan's couldn't be bothered to write their's beyond 2012.
iowadocMay 23, 2011
Yea. What kind of hubris does any televangelist contain in their soul (if they have one mind you) that makes him or her think they can time something that is not predictable? Tard comes to mind, jeeeeeeez.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
I imagine money was the motivation for this joker. He is obviously NOT a Christian. As Tangelojim points out, the book of the Bible that he quotes is very specific in telling us that we cannot know the day or the hour. The Bible says that God will come for his followers like "a thief in the night".
sognarMay 23, 2011
My point is that if you don't believe in any of it then there is nothing to prove. Basing a proof off of something that you hold to be false is in my opinion one of the most foolish things I have ever heard of. It is not that I disagree with his statement, my point is that it is oxymoronic to base one's argument off of something that you think is bulls**t.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tluenborgMay 23, 2011
Why does one have to be a believer to point out that someone is an idiot because he can't read a book correctly?
I mean, if someone told me, Voldemort is a female, i can say that person is an idiot, without believing that Harry Potter and magicians are real. it's simply a matter of FACT.
aptanalogyMay 23, 2011
sognar: unicorns have horns. if you say they don't, you are wrong- a horned mythological horse.
woollymittensMay 23, 2011
Defining yourself imune to non-believers' arguments is special pleading.
sognarMay 24, 2011
I am glad to see at least some people on digg know what a proof is and are digging me up. The rest of you, while I see what you are saying, you are missing the basic logic that was taught to you in 9th grade geometry. And for the record tluenborg, Voldemort is neither male nor female because Voldemort doesn't exist. That is the entire point. And aptanalogy, guess what? Unicorns don't have horns because they too do not exist.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mfareseMay 27, 2011
I can't exactly *prove* that vampires. unicorns, and smurfs aren't real, either... but we all pretty much accept it because we've never seen any credible evidence of their existence. Why is YOUR god so different? (Why not Thor, Poseidon, or Zeus?)
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
It doesn't give the date of the Rapture in the bible; anyone who says otherwise is lying to you, and to himself.
countess666May 23, 2011
most oblivious because of the fact that there isn't going to be one.
paulbiehlMay 23, 2011
the bible also doesn't mention the phenomenon rapture...
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
@ Countess666: Boy, is there going to be egg on your face some day! LOL
countess666May 24, 2011
ow, you know there will be one, and that its going to happen in my lifetime?
really?
and no, i wont.
Darkeforce1May 25, 2011
You sure about that, Countess666? Where's your proof?
iclavdivsMay 23, 2011
The "prophecy" in Revelations that may or may not be referring to an Apocalypse (I say "an" because it may have been written in a sort of code to counsel the early church on the apocalypse they were experiencing at the hands of the Roman emperor Nero) focuses on the how, as opposed to the when of it's occurrence.
There are enough actual inconsistencies in the Bible, there's no need to make up new ones.
woollymittensMay 23, 2011
Your first comments nets you 94+ diggs. :) You've been missing out.
terriwilsonMay 28, 2011
Huh?!?
psyber1anMay 25, 2011
The problem isn't the book, so much as the "believers'" lives denying the book...
diggthisasapMay 23, 2011
This makes no sense... The so called prediction was not made based off of the teachings of the Bible or Christianity. People who read the Bible knew this ahead of time. The Bible also says to beware of false prophets.
zirchxworldMay 22, 2011
they're too arrogant to be humbled.
AbezyokMay 23, 2011
You've got it backwards, crow is eating someone tonight. http://www.snopes.com/religion/rapture.asp
mccscott71May 23, 2011
Son of a bitch,I wish I would have thought of that yesterday.Too funny
woollymittensMay 23, 2011
True believers never admit fault ever. They'll just blame it on non-believers who spoiled everything for them.
UncleRuckuMay 22, 2011
You should read your Bible, sirs. You'll find all types of weird s**t in there. Like did you know Jesus was a Jew?
tyger11May 22, 2011
Plus he was a carpenter, and you know those guys all belong to unions. No way would Jesus be a Republican. :)
chrisd80May 23, 2011
Did he even have a liquor license when he turned water into wine!?
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
Well, he was 33. I think that was over the drinking age in Judea.
chrisd80May 23, 2011
But he was supplying wine, did he have a license to supply?
aptanalogyMay 23, 2011
well I think we now know the REAL cause of the crucifixion. illegal liquor sales.
chrisd80May 24, 2011
It doesn't instill much confidence when you find out your savior is the Beer Baron!
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Jesus was a radical hybrid. Compared to today's American political parties, he would be part left wing liberal democrat and part right wing conservative republican. He was nowhere to be found in the middle.
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
Jesus was also one of the earliest communists; all he talks about is taking care of your neighbour. Definitely not a Republican sentiment. He was also very anti-Richman.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
That's not all Jesus talks about. He talks a lot about no sex out of wedlock, marriage until death, children obey your parents, and total obedience to God, to name just a few. None of these thing are communist views. Those would be views conservative Republicans hold.
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
Um, no. That was Moses. Jesus only told people to not be a douche to each other.
MauryDMay 24, 2011
Are you serious or joking Darkforce1?
Darkeforce1May 25, 2011
I think you need to re-read your Gospels, MauryD
MauryDMay 26, 2011
Sorry Darkeforce1,
I have been too busy to reply.
Here are just a couple of verses from the Gospels that you might want to learn.
Matthew 19: 8-9
John 14: 23,24,31
John 15: 1-6
Luke 16: 16-18
Sorry I don't have time to load more than just a couple for you.
I suggest Biblos.com to you as a great way to learn the teachings of the Bible. They have all of the translations available as well as the Greek which is also very helpful for the tough verses. A very nice search window as well.
They also have a nice "Parallel Commentaries" section at the bottom of each verse where you will find all of the most popular commentaries and expositions on the particular verse or chapter at hand. These are some great theologians.
Peace to you brother!
Darkeforce1May 27, 2011
I have read the bible 8 times, all the way through, thanks. That's why I know what it says, rather than just looking up online references to cherrypick verses out of context like you're doing.
Jesus said the old ways had passed away, and that his One Commandment replaced all the old laws, including the Ten Commandments. Jesus didn't tell people to buck the old ways, but rather to compare them to his One Commandment one by one, to see how they measured up to his message. The vast majority of them failed, as they were based on the laws of Man, or Hatred.
MauryDMay 27, 2011
Well Darkforce1, I don't know what to say. I have given you some scripture and verse to back my statements, which you have not. What more can I do? I like to back my statements up with facts when called into question.
As one of these verses states, from Jesus' own lips, "not a letter of the law shall fall away" (paraphrase)
I guess without being able to converse factually with you we should just end the conversation. It seems to be getting heated and probably neither of us has the time for this.
Peace to you Darkforce1, and goodbye.
Darkeforce1May 28, 2011
I prefer to understand the whole meaning of the bible, rather than cherry-picking verses, usually out of context. The sum total of Christ's ministry does not support the old ways being held intact, but rather that the Old Testament is really nothing more than the process of the Israelites trying, and failing, to comprehend the essential nature of God; hence the need for Christ to come and set us all straight.
MauryDJun 17, 2011
Well I thought I was done with this conversation. But I see the statement that you made 3 weeks ago when I tried to part.
Your statements are so ridiculous and outrageously inaccurate they beg reply.
"Rely not on your own wisdom..." What chapter and verse was that, oh great oracle Darkeforce1?
Only a fool thinks that referring to the Bible for guidance and wisdom is wrong. And only a fool thinks that they can memorize the Bible and just rely on their own memory and understanding without referring to it daily. Your statements make me question whether or not you have read the Bible "8 times".
I too have read the Bible. I use Biblos.com as a magnificent reference tool. It is the digitized Bible. Because it is in digital form, I can research particular topics easily and quickly. I can do the same thing with my Bible. I have a Bible in my car. I also have a Bible in my office at work. The digital version happens to be quicker and give me all of the translations as well as the ability to research the Greek New Testament translation.
I have been studying the Bible my entire conscious life. I have been attending Church, Sunday School, Bible Study, Men's ministry, etc... since I was a small child.
My quotes from scripture are not out of context as you assert. They are spot on and completely relevant.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that when someone quotes scripture, that disagrees with your position, that they are automatically quoting scripture out of context. You need to go to those Verses and study them. Then if you still feel the person is out of context, then you offer additional pieces of the word of God....NOT the word of Darkeforce1.
You sound to me like you think you know everything about the Bible and your opinions are irrefutable. i give you scripture, totally relevant to our conversation, and you merely state that it is out of context. You don't offer the word of God in your defense. You offer the word of Darkeforce1.
Pardon me Darkeforce1, but we were given the word of God so that we may study and learn God's will for any situation. Any situation that requires understanding of God's will, requires us to seek the answer in the Bible.
As of yet you have not backed your position with a single piece of scripture. I don't know what that says to others who are reading this, but it tells me you don't know the Bible very well at all.
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
You have the fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity that is infecting all organized "Christian" religions these days — you think that the Old Testament is relevant beyond the prophesies that prove that Jesus was the Messiah. The 10 Commandments were something made by a leader of the Israelites who was tired of them acting just like the Egyptians that they just left behind. They have more to do with establishing past Israelite culture than being the word of God.
You need to place the Old Testament in context. Jesus said while he came to fulfill the old prophesies, the old ways had passed away. He stood, resolutely, against the guardians of Isrealite Spirituality and the tired, oppressive, un-Godlike laws and rules they represented. He gave us 2 Commandments; much easier to remember than 10 commandments.
1. Love God, because he loves you.
2. Treat other people in the manner that you would want to be treated (in modern times, known as the "Don't be a douche!" commandment)
Cherry-picking verses out of the bible, and quoting them out of context is the methodology of the Enemy. You need to read the gospels as a *living document*; where all the things said are taken in context of everything else that is said. You shouldn't be memorizing chapter and verse; you should be endeavouring to truly understand the concepts that are being passed along, from God to Jesus, and from Jesus to us.
So long as you keep quoting chapter and verses to me, I'll know that you're just not getting it. Christianity was never meant to be a religion; it's a social movement; a lifestyle; saying that you shouldn't kill applies as much to death row convicts, gang-bangers and enemy soldiers/fighters as much as it applies to innocent victim. Anyone who supports the execution of criminals is no Christian, because they are "Cherry-picking" where and when to use the different things said in the bible, just like you are doing.
In short; either you're a Christian in everything you do or say, or else you're not a Christian.
MauryDJun 18, 2011
You're amazing Darkforce1.
I am quoting chapter and verse from the NEW TESTAMENT.
Anyone that refuses to seek the truth and guidance from the Bible is totally lost.
You are leaning on your own understanding. So many so-called Christians to day do this. It is a common, and fatal, error.
And those were just 2 of Jesus' commandments, by the way. Not all of them. Those were the 2 GREATEST commandments as he stated a few lines earlier in your quote. He also "if you love me you will obey my commands".
It is good to see you finally referring to Scripture though.
"So long as you keep quoting chapter and verses to me, I'll know that you're just not getting it."
Pardon me if I get my guidance from God's word and not yours. Sorry Darkforce1. I will continue to seek and quote God's word, as God & Jesus commands. Christianity is from the Bible. Without the knowledge and guidance of the God's word put there, there is no Christianity.
You are somewhat correct about the old testament, in that it has been fulfilled and we are, to some extent, not under the law.
You have to read to understand that the Old and New Testaments are, "part 1 and part 2" so to speak.
Many of the laws given by God in the Old Testament still apply though.
I feel sorry for you when you face God one day and have to try and explain your advice to people while on earth "Christianity was never meant to be a religion; it's a social movement; a lifestyle..."
WOW! I'm glad I'm not you. And I sure pray that you will not be facing him anytime soon. I pray that you will have a chance to reflect, and repent of these thoughts for your own salvation.
Religion is the organized worship of God and the Church was commanded in the New Testament.
Darkforce1, you cannot reject God's word and tell people to rely on any human's word over the chapter verse of the Bible. As long as the chapter and verse are relevant to what is being discussed.
An example of taking chapter and verse out of context would be something like this: A sales manager gathers his sales team for a sales meeting and gives them a talk to fire them up. In the talk he says 'remember what the Bible says "knock and the door shall be opened"". Clearly that is out of context , and I have heard that example in real life.
But when everyday questions or discussion arise, especially when it involves God, you MUST seek the teachings of God in his Word. We are commanded to do so.
What is so strange about you is that you claim to have read the Bible "8 times", and then chastise people when they quote from it and seek direction from the Bible. I think you need to read it again, and this time, understand this is God's word you are reading.
You are making a common mistake among many Christians, thinking you fully understand the Bible and. therefore, no longer need to consult it. Dangerously arrogant my friend. And the nut job Campings of this world are all of this type of thinking. "Don't read the Bible. I have read it and I will tell you what it says".
As for me Darkforce1, I will not rely on my own understanding and will continue to read and seek guidance in the Bible to the day I die. And excuse me if I don't rely on your understanding of the Bible.
MrWonderful61May 27, 2011
I seem to recall reading that he was more like: "Divest yourself of worldly possessions", not "Give me all your possessions so I can redistribute them to those that need them more." I'd tend to think his philosophy would be more closely related to anarchism... perhaps Libertarian.
Communism = Fail
Darkeforce1May 28, 2011
Look at the parable of the Sheep and the Goats. Pure communism. If you do not give of yourself to help your neighbours, your brothers and sisters, then you are accursed of the Lord, and to be sent from His sight.
That's the very basis of communism; the community taking care of the individuals.
Capitalism Excuse Fail.
invaderprotosMay 23, 2011
Is that a f**king bible?
kaelyiestaMay 23, 2011
Hey, hey! The holy f**king bible, son!
HolyHipHop116May 23, 2011
Haha Clerks 2
invaderprotosMay 24, 2011
Lol
I wonder why my quote from the movie is getting dugg down, when several others are getting dugg up...
"I'm sick of you people! You're nothing but a bunch of fickle mush heads!"
theobviouschildMay 23, 2011
The f**king bible...not to be confused with the Kama Sutra.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Yeah man he was like, totally like, the King of the Jews dude. Totally.
crapsaladJun 11, 2011
I though Larry King was king of the jews (hence the last name King).
analogkid1May 23, 2011
Jesus may have been a cool guy, but he aint no son of god.
Darkeforce1May 25, 2011
So you're the one person in the world who is informed on who *really* is the son of God?
analogkid1May 25, 2011
There cannot be a *son* of god if there is no god to begin with. Are you the one person left who is drooling in anticipation for October 21st?
Darkeforce1May 26, 2011
I don't believe in the Rapture; are you the one person who is a bigot about Christians and is afraid to hear what they're *really* all about because you've made up your mind already?
Darkeforce1May 26, 2011
So you believe that there is no God. There is nothing that proves that, so welcome to the ranks of the Religious. Your beliefs about God are equivalent to those of anyone else who has made a leap of faith and made an absolute statement about the state of God's existence.
In short, you can't prove that.
analogkid1May 26, 2011
Here's another "absolute" statement: Leprechauns,fairies and mermaids don't exist.
Does that *really* take a "leap of faith"? No. It is a simple statement made by a sane person living in a rational world with a firm grip on reality.
Those aforementioned creatures are fictitious beings created in the mind of man (same as god). You label me as "religious" because I don't beleive these things exist? I am irreligious or a non-theist (non-religious). I am an Atheist. If you break down the word atheism, the "a" denotes "not". "theism" denotes belief in a god or gods. So the literal translation of the word atheism is "non-belief in god or gods". That's all. Atheism is not a religion...as much as you christians would like to label it as. It 'aint.
The best you could do is a comical tongue-in-cheek version, as in this definition of religion: "something of overwhelming importance to a person: football is his *religion*"
And noone would seriously consider football a religion in the traditional aspect of the word, now would they??
analogkid1May 26, 2011
God is "conveniently invisible."
analogkid1May 26, 2011
I don't need to *prove* that god does *not* exist. You need to prove that he *does*.
Darkeforce1May 27, 2011
Yes, it does. Just because you haven't seen something, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. That's typical Atheist egotism; it's illogical and irrational, and has nothing to do with sanity.
Absolutist statements are sure signs of ignorance and a closed mind.
Darkeforce1May 27, 2011
Sorry, but you fail. You need to prove there is no God as much as I need to prove that there is one. I know my evidence is subjective, and that you will ridicule it, so I haven't been bothering trying to prove it. I have been limiting myself to pointing out just how ridiculous and delusional your religion is.
Yes, it is a religion, because it is stating your belief about God; i.e. in the complete and utter lack of any evidence there is no God, you've taking the absolutist statement that there is no God, and you lack any credible, objective reasons to convince me or anyone else of that fact.
The hard truth is that most atheists are just former Christians that gave up one faith for a different one, and I know that fact just pisses you atheists off to no end. You've woven a cute little self-delusion around your religion, and use that to justify your "Holier than thou" attitude. In short, it makes atheists some of the biggest hypocrites out there.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Zyleah42May 27, 2011
I have to disagree with Darkeforce1 down there. I have never and will never be a Christian. Not that I think that all of you are bad people, but there are far too many that preach being good to thy neighbour and not following through with it. There is far too much hate in the Christian religion and not nearly enough love to balance it all out.
I myself was given the opportunity as a child to figure out for myself which was the right religion for me. Paganism fit the best and while I'm not claiming that we all got along in the past (there was plenty of murder and crusading to go around) I believe that at some point someone has to be the bigger man and own up to the fact that love is the answer, not hate.
Atheism is as valid of an outlook at Christianity is. If one decides through a course of events in his or her life that the path of no god(s) is the right one for them, then who are we to judge. Religion is more about teaching people to do good and to not judge their fellow man. As long as people follow those basic rules in life, who cares where they get it from? Who are we to decide who is right or wrong? Is it not up to the individual to chose the path that is righteous?
Live and let live. Do not judge and be kind to thy neighbor. Why continue the tradition of any religion to persecute another for what they believe? I think it's high time we let that tradition die and learn to love one another for who they are and who they decide to believe in. As long as they are doing no harm to others, what's the real harm?
Darkeforce1May 28, 2011
I said most, and you are here claiming that you, as well, traded in one religion (paganism) for another. And believe me, atheism is not harmless. The emotional damage atheists do to people they can't convert is as real and poignant as the damage done by people trying to make homosexuals into heterosexuals. Atheists, at their core, are bullies. They've made an assumption (I never said that there was anything wrong with that, just don't try to tell us it isn't an assumption), and the vast majority of them are seething with self-denial about their belief. That repressed emotion is projected onto everyone who dares to suggest that they aren't logical, or that they find faith in God more likely than the Atheist religion.
I certainly believe in Live and Let Live; hence the reason I don't get all fire and brimstone and insist that people must be Born Again or they'll go to Hell. I just wish Atheists would extend the same courtesy to me, because I have yet to meet one that isn't a smug, aggressive assh**e.
plumciderMay 22, 2011
Awkward, but infinitely amusing, and for that, I thank them. :)
dcjoedogv2May 22, 2011
Daniel, is that you?
StrongTacoMay 22, 2011
Crazy Christians!
rethreadMay 23, 2011
Gabriel, is that you?
peasyweaseMay 23, 2011
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
kustomkidMay 23, 2011
Who's the twinkle toed,communist c***sucker, that just signed his own death warrant?
StrongTacoMay 27, 2011
I am!
Thank you that cheered me up!
MauryDMay 23, 2011
This guy is surely no Christian. Just because a person says he's a Leopard doesn't mean he is one.
dcjoedogv2May 23, 2011
I meant Daniel Tosh, from Tosh.0
"and for that, I thank you/them"
ex67vMay 23, 2011
Can't claim it myself, but i read to following comment on another board, and thought I'd pass it along :
"... and we cant even console them properly...i mean we can't tell them 'there there, its not the end of the world'"
probably the most perfect comment ever.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Lol
jhnthnMay 22, 2011
i find this picture difficult to masterbate to
amaoicanMay 22, 2011
and who's fault is that?
campcastawayMay 22, 2011
squint
msbpodcastMay 22, 2011
Hey, I'm here so I CAN jerk-off. :-) [fap fap fap]
mastersaiyanMay 22, 2011
are you from reddit :p
IwantUKSocialMediaMay 23, 2011
f**k reddit.
full of gay atheist assh**es.
cubineMay 23, 2011
I didn't know Tyler the Creator had a digg account and for that I dig you up
theghoulMay 23, 2011
Stand aside citizen.
tvwebmasterMay 23, 2011
The really amazing part is that ANYBODY believed this idiot!
acrossthelaneMay 23, 2011
I think his end of day clock was on daylight savings time
farmthisMay 23, 2011
This BILLBOARD is telling me that the rapture will be on 24:36 -- that means, 36 minutes after midnight, on the year 2436, presumably, on January first since there's no way to break that up into days and months. Matthew is sending us a message, Brothers! And since my name is ALSO Matthew, you should trust me as the prophet's prophet!!
m0use01May 23, 2011
We can derive an exact date from your, I mean Mathews clues. The date the world will end is 2/4/36. That's the year 2436 at exactly 36 minutes past midnight. In 425 years they'll look back at this thread and make us saints.
drszuszMay 23, 2011
I very sorry. This is so not them forum for this type of dialog. I just think all forms of religion are ruining the world. What's so controversial about that? If you follow the news, you'll see what I mean. But I didn't mean to make personal insults. I fully realize that probably most of the people that live in the south are smart, good people. I've just got this major problem with religion because it is dangerous, and unnecessary. So if anyone took, of takes personal offence, I apologize.
uthmanMay 23, 2011
Dugg for Papyrus font
gpjoaMay 23, 2011
Guess the sign says it all!
whacklyMay 22, 2011
freaking papyrus!
jaminscriptMay 23, 2011
Yes, it is disgusting...
Closed AccountMay 23, 2011
WHEN are these assh**es going to lose their TAX EXEMPT status????
MauryDMay 23, 2011
As soon as the whole "separation of Church and State" thing gets tossed.
drszuszMay 23, 2011
or the reason, or the purpose, or anything. We live in the dumbest country. When I travel I say I'm Canadian. I would move to Canada, but they arn't taking any stupid Americans and won't be for a very long time. Same with most other countries in the world. It's a pity to be ashamed of the country I was born and raised in. The I.Q. level just keeps taking a nose dive. I can understand it in the south, what with the inbreeding, and being raised brainwashed by there Fundamentalist non-sense. But the rest of the country seems to be following suit. Oh well, at least I'll be dead soon. Cheers!
MauryDMay 23, 2011
They are not fundamentalists that believed this horse puckey. Fundamentalists believe in the fundamental teachings of the Bible to be perfect. The Bible clearly states that we shall not know the hour or day of the Rapture. I could say that the Lions are going to win the Super Bowl in July of this year. Does that make sports fans or players stupid? No. It makes the fool who believes me stupid.
drszuszMay 23, 2011
I guess I'm not a fool, because I don't believe you. Your the same kind of person I was referring to, that uses religion to explain their actions, instead of taking responsibility for them. Why not put the real back into reality. This country is full of people like you, and a good portion of our problems,and the worlds problems, are because of religion. It's always done much more harm then good, but people are too lazy and scared to want to deal with the truth. You can talk your self into anything, and out of anything. Why not try reality for a change?
soldariusMay 23, 2011
And you honestly think every person that lives in the south are the same? You sir, are an ignorant person and a hypocrite to judge people based on stereotypical logic.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Whoah! Hold on drszusz. I didn't personally insult you. First of all, I congratulate you for not believing the Lions will win the Superbowl...in July. But I fear you missed the point. I merely explained to you what a fundamentalist Christian believes and why they would not believe this nut. I made no excuses for anything. As a matter of fact, from this post alone, you would have no idea what religion I believe in. I merely pointed out that it was definitely not fundamentalists who believed this guy. I further gave no explanations for any of my "actions" as my actions were not mentioned except in a fictional example of how stupid people were to believe this guy. I mean you did understand that I was not serious about the Lions winning the Superbowl in July...right? Maybe YOU need to venture back to reality for a sec and stick to what I wrote instead of inventing things in your head. Maybe you could give specific examples of where you disagree with the Bible instead of making general statements that are inaccurate. I mean you have actually read the Bible right? You wouldn't just be spouting off about things you simply don't know about. Right? And by the way, insulting all people in the south makes you look...errr...foolish.
drszuszMay 23, 2011
Everything in the bible is inaccurate. It's FICTION. Wake up!
MauryDMay 23, 2011
You have right to believe that.
But lets stay focussed on the discussion at hand for sec shall we.
We are trying to discuss your statements regarding fundamentalist Christians and the Bible which are totally inaccurate.
It's almost as if you have no idea of what you are talking about. I know it sounds crazy for someone who gives their opinion so forcefully as you do about the Bible and about Christians.
I know you probably despise people who talk about things that have no knowledge of whatsoever, but I'm almost led to believe you have never read the Bible.
Is that true? Could that be possible?
drszuszMay 23, 2011
I've never read A Tail of Two Citys, but I'm pretty sure it's fiction. Just because people have faith in a book, and build religion around it, dosn't make it true. And I don't have to read it cover to cover to know that Scientologists base their religion on a science fiction book by L. Ron Hubbard. Are they any different then you?
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Well drszusz, I'm amazed at how you avoid the original discussion.
I'm NOT trying to defend my faith to you. That was not the original discussion. We are NOT discussing whether or not (maybe I should try "weather" here, what do you think?) the Bible or God are real.
I'm addressing your statements about Christian beliefs that are completely wrong.
I am referring to your original comment: "brainwashed by there Fundamentalist non-sense" I love your use the word "there" by the way. You use it with such creative ingenuity. I am so boring. I continue to use the same old "their" in that context. How mundane of me. IQ's are definitely dropping though, as you so adroitly pointed out.
I simply stated, but apparently not simply enough, that fundamentalist Christians did not subscribe to this type of Camping nonsense.
Fundamentalist Christians believe in, and study the Bible. This particular type of nut is discussed many times in the Bible. It is basic and, dare I say it, fundamental to its teachings.
Ellasherlin1May 25, 2011
Not everything!
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
So is everything in Dianetics, and every other self-help book that ever comes on the market. What's your point?
crapsaladJun 11, 2011
You used the wrong form of There/They're/Their. Right before "Fundamentalist." It should have been "Their." Not that it invalidates your argument, or anything. I'm just saying it's an annoying error to read.
mike2u88May 27, 2011
I would much rather be a Christian and be wrong then be an Atheist and be wrong! I`m just saying.
soundslikeshavonMay 25, 2011
I think its funny how people put themselves in boxes... CHRISTIAN... ATHEIST. Whatever IS.. IS no matter what .. there is no use at flaunting your beliefs to feel superior or make others feel bad about themselves. Bottom line, believe in yourself and use a good mind and heart to live your life free.
crapsaladJun 11, 2011
Shut up, hippie.
tuuleleiMay 23, 2011
SUPER awkward. If I was Harold Camping, I'd never preach again.
bluamnesiacMay 23, 2011
Does it really matter when the world will end? It's not like the end of Earth or humans will have much if any impact on the rest of the universe. :/
dyenamoMay 23, 2011
Here is the problem: Everyone, including other Christians, believe that Camping's followers were crazy for believing it. But the Christians only think it is crazy because they disagree with the date, NOT because it IS crazy!
Check out my blog about this: http://digg.com/news/lifestyle/an_open_letter_to_the_unraptured_think_atheist
cAnWeBeSeWeIoUsMay 22, 2011
Time for the Magic Word
"FAITH"
When Religious leaders are wrong, all they have to tell their followers is "it was a test of are faith".
ROGU3WAV3May 22, 2011
Faith? It's called reading comprehension.
ngc4414May 22, 2011
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mattbrad2May 22, 2011
Nice to see a logical comment in the sea of Digg ignorance.
biggulliverMay 23, 2011
Also known as "Diggnorance."
inajeepMay 22, 2011
Anyone who didn't have faith wouldn't be fooled by Camping or any of the them.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Only a non Christian would believe in such nonsense from Camping.
angrycat70May 23, 2011
Most sane Christians were doing a face-palm weeks ago over Camping's insanity. As the billboard says- even the BIBLE says "No man will know the day or the hour of his return." Best plan- try to get along with folks and carry on.
mrshovelupagusMay 22, 2011
The Millerites thought it was going to happen in 1843. When it didn't, William Miller claimed that the Second Coming happened "spiritually," and his followers didn't see it because they weren't ready for it. The most prevalent branch of the Millerites still in existence today is the 7th Day Adventists.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Again, the Millerites would have been wrong for the same reason that ALL individuals, organizations, or churches that even try to predict the Rapture are wrong... because the Bible tells us "no one will know the hour or the day"... and no one should try. If they do, they are not true Christians and should be viewed as such.
saknightMay 27, 2011
um... perhaps the "Millerites would have been wrong for the same reason that ALL individuals, organizations, or churches that even try to predict the Rapture are wrong" . . . because they're just plain wrong. Perhaps there is no 'second-coming'? Perhaps there is no 'creator-god'? and ergo, there is no rapture.
ophelloMay 22, 2011
Do you know the difference between "our" and "are"?
I'm digging you down for terrible grammar. Sorry...a mistake that dumb gets that kind of reaction from me.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
The religious "leaders" who teach false doctrine have always existed and will continue to exist according to the Bible. You must know what the Bible teaches so that you will not be fooled. Obviously anyone who believed this shiester didn't even know the most basic teachings of God's word.I copied this from biblos.com. 1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world."
You test them by comparing what they say versus what the Bible says.
donutmasterMay 22, 2011
Funny how the bible is full of a lot of prophecies "that all came true" but cannot fully predict the end of the world.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
The Bible does not predict the time of end of the world. In fact the Bible is telling us not to try. The Bible is God's word. He knows the date. He just feels that we don't need to know.
cherrybomb921May 23, 2011
the bible was written by man... so idk why people keep saying it's "god's word"..... no, it's really not.
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
It's the writings of man, but it does *contain* God's word; you just have to use common sense and the Holy Spirit to discern it from the humanism in the book.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jaminscriptMay 23, 2011
"Use the holy spirit"
Oh I'll just get one out of my toolshed...
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
Ridicule is the tool of the ignorant.
analogkid1May 23, 2011
"use common sense and the Holy Spirit"
Those two things cannot be used together.
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
At least not by you. The rest of us is another matter.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
The Bible was written by men, and that's where Faith comes in. (And by the way, we don't have Faith in men. We have Faith in God)
We Christians believe that, although men wrote the individual books of the Bible, they were "God breathed" meaning that God put the actual words into the particular author at the time they were writing.
We believe that Faith comes from the Holy Spirit.
When you hear or read the word of God you actually believe, and then either accept or reject this gift. This belief is the Holy Spirit working in you.
That is what Christians believe, because that is what is written in the Bible and what we have personally felt and experienced.
Your choice is to accept it or reject it. And I don't condemn you for your choice not to accept this. I do pity you, but I don't condemn you. This is your choice alone, and your consequence alone. As is mine.
cherrybomb921May 27, 2011
"We Christians believe that, although men wrote the individual books of the Bible, they were "God breathed" meaning that God put the actual words into the particular author at the time they were writing."
what is this crazy talk? it's funny how the bible fails to mention how the books were made. "god breathed" my assh**e. do you also believe in Joseph Smith? he wrote this whole other bible and claimed that god was speaking through him (that's what you're saying by "god breathed" i'm assuming).
And if god was doing this 4000 years ago and it was working so well for him, why doesn't he do it today? where are people writing the next books of the bible?
I'm no genius, but this stinks... this stinks from a mile away.
All i have to say is "I pity da fool"
donutmasterMay 23, 2011
That's exactly my point. The bible is full of prophecies that "came true" (although new testament is written after they came true, but who's keeping count). Given that the Bible has "predicted" other prophecies, why wouldn't it tell the exact day, or at least year? Because that would put the whole sham on display when it didn't happen.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Darkeforce1May 23, 2011
The bible doesn't pretend to predict when the end of the world is, so why are you expecting it to? More Atheist blather and bigotry.
jaminscriptMay 23, 2011
"More Atheist blather and bigotry"
More religious cop-out without attached explanation of why said Athiest is somehow "talking s**t".
Darkeforce1May 24, 2011
Considering Atheism is just another religion, you're talking through your hat. Your comment is just a religious cop-out itself.
jaminscriptMay 25, 2011
@Darkeforce1: Since when is the acceptance of reality and living in a realistic manner considered a religion? Just because I don't have childish daydreams about floating kings and lightning-finger-pointing wizards that spawn items for humans to live on means I live a life of "Religion".
What's the religion called if you deny the existence of Father Christmas (Santa), or Bambi and Barny the Dinosaur? What about if I deny that 1+1=3? What is that religion called?
I live my life in a way that I deal with things logically and with reason. I don't just automatically assume 1+1=3 and ignore all the evidences towards why it could be wrong, but that's obviously what you do; ignore the evidences, and ignore the logic.
Not everything has to do with religion. Get that silly thought out of your head.
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
jaminscript, I'm not even talking about religion. I'm talking about Christianity, which is about as far divorced from religion as anything could be. Christianity is a philosophy; a social movement; people deciding to not pass on the hatred and intolerance of the past to yet another generation.
And you can stop right there in that false claim that atheism is based on reality. It isn't. It's based on an illogical, irrational assumption that an absence of evidence is evidence of absence. No one who claims to be clued into reality can claim there is no God; that is a leap of faith; an absolutist stance on something that cannot be proven or disproven.
In short, Atheism is just a bunch of former Christians that got pissed off over the hypocrisy of the religion that claims to be Christianity, and they went off the deep end on the other end of the scale. It's a religion like any other.
I never said you're talking s**t; I said you're talking about Your Faith. There is nothing wrong with that, but don't try to tell me that Atheism isn't a religion. Don't be trying to tell me that s**t is candy.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Just because they haven't happened yet doesn't mean they won't.
There's only one Rapture, and you'll certainly know when it happens. All Christians will just disappear.
Look on the bright side. At least you won't be bother bothered by we Christians anymore.
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
You'll just have all the Televangelists and Republicans left to deal with ;)
jaminscriptMay 23, 2011
The bible also says that I should be able to see all four corners of the world on Mt Everest.
Hmmm, yeah nah I don't think so.
analogkid1May 23, 2011
The bible also says that we should kill all adulterers. Why aren't we fullfilling the bible's (god's) commands??
Oh, that's right. We pick and choose...and ignore most of that silly old testament.
MauryDMay 24, 2011
You know, a lot of unbelievers don't understand the Bible. Particularly the Old versus the New Testaments. Some Christians struggle with that too.
This is a basic attempt to explain what we believe.
A lot of the Old Testament is about how we just don't obey God and yet he allowed people to make amends with him by making a sacrificial offering to pay for their sins. The theme was repeated over and over so that when the Messiah came, we would recognize him as a living sacrifice.
His Son is the final atoning sacrifice. Jews could understand this symbolism because they were quite used to making sacrifices.
Jesus fulfills the prophecies and promise of the Messiah.
He, in fulfilling the the promise, rendered the Old Testament completed. None of the actual commandments were changed. All of the promises were fulfilled regarding the Messiah and the salvation of the world.
But some of the writings in the Old Testament dealt with temple rituals and sacrifices that were required to keep harmony with God. These are no longer necessary because Jesus, as the Messiah, renders those sacrifices completed now because he is THE final sacrifice, once and FOR ALL.
No more sacrifices are needed because he completes the whole promise from God to us, his children. Jesus is the spotless lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world"
Now for the New Testament. The New Testament is about the fulfillment of God's promise of the Messiah and how we can have eternal salvation by accepting his gift.
It's about the life, and death of Jesus and his teachings for the new way of doing things.
Someone else paid the bill for my sins, and all sins by everyone...forever and cancels the old way of communing with God.
I hope this helps. I did my best. I'm no theologian.
analogkid1May 24, 2011
"temple rituals and sacrifices that were required to keep harmony with God."
Sounds a lot like the Mayans...
MauryDMay 24, 2011
Lol. Except they weren't human. They were lambs.
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
Any bible scholar worth his salt will tell you you're wrong. The Old Testament is little more than the Israelites failing to understand the loving, forgiving nature of God, and instead worshipping him as they did their old gods, with sacrifices and long lists of restrictive "Thou shalt not"s.
Finally, God had to send someone to truly speak for him, and give a represenatitve "sacrifice" to get the Israelites over that "sacrificing" tripping point. In truth, Jesus's death was less about being a symbolic blood sacrifice for our sins, and more about him using that opportunity to fight and defeat Satan on our behalf, so that we wouldn't have to fight him ourselves. We need only remind him that Christ kicked his arse, and the fruits of his own deceptions and lies are waiting for him. Satan just tries to con as many humans into going that self-created punishment as possible, so he doesn't have to suffer alone. A sore loser to the end.
Now, you won't hear them saying this in Churches; such a concept is inherently destructive to the controlling nature of religion, because it says that we don't need religious leaders, or rituals and ceremonies, or pastors berating us and telling us that we're destined for hell (because that's not our destiny). This is the result of decades of studying the bible and other religious texts, and the religions that sprung up after Satan scored his greatest coup by turning Christianity into a Religion.
This puts Christianity inherently in the hands of the individual person, giving them the choice as to whether they want to be a better person; if they want to be a broken link in the chain of hatred and atrocity that the rest of the world passes down from generation to generation; it's just something we want to do of our own free will, not because we'll "burn in hell" if we don't.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Oh cool! What Chapter and verse was that? I must have missed it.
jaminscriptJun 20, 2011
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Matthew 4:8-9
The devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee.
Fail.
MauryDJun 21, 2011
This was your post that I replied to originally:
"The bible also says that I should be able to see all four corners of the world on Mt Everest.
Hmmm, yeah nah I don't think so."
Then you use the 2 scriptures to to back your statement. (Awesome by the way! An atheist who is actually reading the Bible and attempting to quote it. I applaud you. Some Christians do not quote chapter and verse when referring to Biblical questions)
These verses, however, do not support your position.
1. In Matthew, Mt Everest is never mentioned. It says "a very high mountain", not "the highest mountain".
2. In Matthew, the beings referred to are both supernatural. Jesus is human but is also half God. They both have the ability to see all things. This how they are able to "pop" up to the top of a temple and then "pop" over to a very high mountain. You do not have these abilities and the Bible never says this is something that was repeatable by a mere human. It was a one time event by Jesus Christ and Satan.
3. I no idea why you would quote Isaiah here. I has no relevance whatsoever. I can't even say it is out of context because it doesn't even mention anyone seeing anything from a top of a mountain. I don't know where you are trying to go with the Isaiah verse. Please expound.
I applaud your attempt to read and use Scripture however. I mean that. I am not being sarcastic. Keep reading and provide some other scripture that shows us how we can "see all four corners of the world on Mt Everest."
Obviously the Bible would not name the highest mountain on earth Mt Everest back then. But any reference to "the highest mountain on earth" or similar words will suffice.
Best regards.
crapsaladJun 11, 2011
God probably just doesn't know how to end the world and he's stalling for time. You know, like a "I could do that but I don't feel like it right now" type of thing. As soon as we stop asking when the world is gonna end, MAYBE he'll get around to it. Also, in the interest of preventing retaliation I would like to point out that all of the writing thus far has been nothing more than a facetious musing, and should be treated as such.
Darkeforce1Jun 18, 2011
God's waiting for the writers of Babylon 5 to die, so he'll have a kick-ass writing team. ;)
bobbi21May 23, 2011
uh none of the bible prophecies have ever mentioned dates... the best they ever give are general descriptions of what will happen at some later date. and 95% of bible prophecies that "came true" were all around jesus's first coming. (again just descriptions nothing at all about dates). Exact same pattern as the prophecies about the end of the world.
Pretty much none of the predicted revelations stuff has even happened yet so the may 21st stuff made no sense even for hardcore christians that read the bible. It was basically just whoever believed in that harold camping guy.
donutmasterMay 23, 2011
You are correct. I am just over generalizing all the crap I've had to hear from Christians about the Bible having correct prophecies. They do not give dates, time, etc. I was not saying that it did either. I was simply stating that if the Bible is so good at predictions, it should be able to accurately predict the end of the world.
"Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places." Matthew 24:7
They'll tell you that vagueness came true. Well of course it did. It's easy. I can do it too.
MauryDMay 23, 2011
Believers do not believe the Bible makes predictions. Predictions are guesses.
The Bible FORETELLS of things that WILL happen at some point in the future. God has already set out the hour and day, but does not want us to know what EXACT hour or day. The lack of a day and hour is not an oversight. It is intentional.
To paraphrase and condense; he is telling us that "I will return, and you will not know when, so be ready." Try Matthew 25:1-13 if you care to. It's free on Biblos.com.
Now, you can believe that the Bible is the word of God or choose not to. That is everyone's choice here on earth, and it is between you and God.
Obviously, like this Camping guy, just because a person claims to believe in the Bible, (and therefore God and Christ) does not mean that they actually do. He totally ignored the Bible's writings and therefore is not a Christian.
Blame Camping, not the Bible, and certainly not God.
frayedknotjeffMay 22, 2011
And Matthew didn't know what the f**k he was talking about either.
Thank you!
yvonnejesseyMay 23, 2011
Jesus said, "...no one knows the hour, not even himself..." stop trying to predict when it is going to happen; get and keep your soul ready at all times.
jaminscriptMay 23, 2011
I have no soul.
analogkid1May 23, 2011
I am a white man and therefore have no soul.
mccscott71May 23, 2011
get yourself some old blues albums
harrisbradleyMay 23, 2011
Originally, it was the Christians who used to make these kinds of comments, with poorly hidden insults, about how foolish everyone was for not believing. It's almost like some of you have now become exactly like the very group you seek out, and go out of your way, to make fun of and ridicule. I assumed atheists dislike religion so much one wouldn't want to have anything to do with it, as oppose to immersing themselves in it. It's like Palin. If you want her to go away, ignore her, don't fill up my digg stream with tons of f**king posts about her. Additionally, these types of stories get more comments than any other type of stories. Atheists outnumbers the religious 10 to 1 on this site. It's not like there's a huge debate going on here.
cydonia21May 23, 2011
Before you use all the mumbo jumbo numerology crap in the bible to prove when the rapture is going to happen prove the bible first next time and this can all be avoided. If your conclusions wrong, first check your premise.
vortexbitsMay 23, 2011
The fact this verse is in the Bible goes to show that the so-called prophet and his followers were delusional. They get driven by their own "facts" instead of relying on the ones on which they proclaim their belief system or faith is built on. In the end people --experts and so forth-- will believe what they want to believe.
AweInspiringMay 23, 2011
+
yachinMay 23, 2011
what mean???
joe7845May 23, 2011
What's funnier is that the author thinks the way to refute baseless fabrications is to cite a book of myths.
saknightMay 27, 2011
What better way to refute "baseless fabrications" than to cite the mythology from whence those "fabrications" came?
ivan2266May 23, 2011
True!
srvntofchaosMay 23, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWk0ZbnfM7U
mahfujarrahmanMay 23, 2011
good
awansetioMay 23, 2011
I Like It!
skyislandMay 23, 2011
The Earth's environment has been compromised and in my opinion runaway overheat has been triggered. It's not funny and it pertains to physical properties of materials and thermodynamics of heat retention within the atmosphere due to build up of greenhouse gasses.
StonnaMay 23, 2011
Yet people keep insisting they know
tomgfromcanadaMay 23, 2011
see, we don't need religion anymore.
Im_High_TechMay 29, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8FfzA08T-w
smileyelenaMay 29, 2011
Apparently, the "religious group" that announced the "rapture thing", did not read their bible. The bible says, according to Matthew 24:36, "But at that day and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only."