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gbudavidAug 21, 2010
The only thing I know he is NOT is He is NOT a Good President
dirtyfriesAug 21, 2010
The only thing I know is that your English writing skills are subpar at best.
spazattack5000Aug 22, 2010
That was not a double negative. Read it again.
arcookeAug 22, 2010
"I can't find a way to argue against you, so I'm just going to attack your grammar instead."
staffellAug 22, 2010
To be fair, it was a terribly structured sentence anyway.
mahdicAug 22, 2010
Oh I see, a double negative. You are quite the comedian
breadfredAug 22, 2010
i LIKE wRItiNG with CAPS on when I fEEL EMPHASIS is required. It makes me MORE INteLLIgent than you.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
And you know this because Fox News warns you about all the things he's GOING to do to our country!
kaveti6616Aug 22, 2010
He's a lot better than that ape puppet a few years back. His name escapes me at the moment.
On topic: I don't give a s**t what Obama's personal religious beliefs are or whether he is religious at all. When I apply for a job, there's no question on the application that asks me my personal religious views or even my sexual orientation. So, why the hell does Barack Obama have to divulge personal details which have nothing at all to do with his competence relating to the job of being the President of the United States? I understand that people want a President that they can relate to, but right now we're living in very dire times, and I would have hoped that everyone, even those who care a lot about trivial information such as religious affiliation, would be willing to set aside their qualms and cooperate in order to get our country, and by extension the rest of the world, out of this financial rut.
Instead, we have division. And it's hateful and embittered, on both sides. On this site I see people being so rude to each other. Why? Do you guys think sarcasm is going to remedy the situation or just boost your egos? A house divided will not stand. The United States is embroiled in the turmoil of aggressive partisanship, something that the founding fathers feared would happen if political parties dominated the political process.
President Obama shouldn't have to tell us his religious views, and he shouldn't have to have any or to pretend that he does. As long as he can do the job, that's all that matters. Unfortunately, progress is slow because political opponents are bringing needless bulls**t into the media to impede recovery. They'd rather see the country fall than have it recover under a Democrat.
And another thing: I seriously don't care for this US Citizen requirement for being Potus. It's not important to me. It makes no sense at all. If a man or woman has the skill and desire to be the President, he/she should not be shot down by a nationalistic code.
russ3Aug 22, 2010
just checking, you would be cool with arnold schwarzenegger being president?
cynicalbrit94Aug 22, 2010
There was a skill clause russ3. Does that answer you question?
bobadobalinaAug 22, 2010
Let me get this straight:
Libtards want to allow Muslims to build a memorial to the murder they committed at Ground Zero because they are a peaceful, loving people.
Libtards are OUTRAGED that people think Hussein Obama is a Muslim
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Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Libtards? Really? You know people can see what you write right? They're going to catch on to your stupidity even quicker now.
sorrydiggAug 22, 2010
I'm not aware of this "memorial to murder" you speak of..
More like "Islamic YMCA"
skatopherAug 22, 2010
we aren't outraged, we are eternally surprised at the lies the right can believe.
every time we think THIS is the craziest thing people can believe, and every time you find something more and more outlandish to claim as "fact"
caio6939Aug 22, 2010
nah, we are just amazed how easily the sheeples are controlled.
finalstrikerAug 22, 2010
Yes and even more shockingly it is only one block away from the New York Dolls Gentlemen’s Club.
melikbilgeAug 22, 2010
Subpar trolling, 2/10
juliusthecatAug 22, 2010
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vatosplaceAug 22, 2010
@BobAdobalina
Thanks for making it easy to spot the Freeper assh**e.
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magus_melchiorAug 23, 2010
When did they stop?
nikokunAug 22, 2010
LOL.. wow, fool.
He's STILL much better than Bush! (or arguably how McCain would have been) =P
So just stfu.
arcangelgabrielAug 22, 2010
You tell em there sparky.
bobadobalinaAug 25, 2010
It is so much easier to attach a (incorrect) label to someone than to engage in actual debate. The Libtard creed
anomaly100Aug 21, 2010
I love this video.
sanmanAug 22, 2010
so he's a converted Muslim then
born Barack Hussein
Barack = Arabic for 'blessed'
Hussein = the grandson of the Prophet of Islam, Mohammed (he was the first person ever named Hussein)
"Hi, my name is Christopher Christianson, but I want you to know that I'm totally Jewish!"
Possibly - by conversion. But I've never heard of any Jewish parents giving their kid that name.
"Hi, my name's Henry Martin Luther, but I want you to know that I'm a full Roman Catholic!"
Maybe - through conversion. But I've never heard of any Roman Catholic parents giving their kid that name.
"Hi, my name's Mohammed Al-Islamiya, but I want you to know that I'm a fully practicing Christian!"
There may indeed be Christians with Mohammed as their first name, but they likely wouldn't have been born to Christian parents who named them Mohammed.
As an atheist, I feel there are better ways to acquire credibility than merely through family name. That would of course involve having a career track record that was suitably accomplished to measure upto the Oval Office. Oh, but Johnny-Come-Lately Obama doesn't even have that. He's just a local state legislator who got vaulted to the presidency because of his skin color. He doesn't even have a track record of accomplishment worthy of the Presidency. He's basically the most inexperienced President ever. The left-wing Norwegian parliament gifted him a Nobel prize without even any accomplishments to his name. What a joke.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johndiAug 22, 2010
By the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born his father was an atheist. He was not born into a Muslim family. He just happens to named after his father. Many Arabic Christians have names that would be considered Muslim to the average westerner because of cultural afinity, not religious afinity. Arabic =/= Muslim
sanmanAug 22, 2010
I'm an atheist too, and it's a shame that dad's atheism didn't give him the sense of responsibility to stick around to help raise his son. Behavior like that makes atheists look like a bunch of deadbeats - certainly, a father who doesn't stick around to be part of his son's life is.
As an atheist, I'd really prefer to distance myself from such deadbeat behavior and call it out for what it is. A person has to behave responsibly in life, and doing a disappearing act while your kid grows up isn't at all the right thing to do.
Somebody should build a Barack Obama Walk of Shame, as a warning to deadbeat fathers everywhere. I certainly wouldn't associate such a name with greatness, or worthy of emulating.
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Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
sanman, trying a new argument after your original argument failed?
merelywatchingAug 22, 2010
I don't agree with your interpretation of the facts.
mahdicAug 22, 2010
'...but you are the father of your cousin!'
That's usually how these shows end up
shodanxAug 22, 2010
that would make them auntf**kers ?
pasarisAug 22, 2010
He was born to a muslim father and raised as a Christian. No wonder he's so indecisive.
breadfredAug 22, 2010
I was born to a catholic mum and protestant dad. Does that make me indecisive? No, of course it doesn't. I also like the way you present us with facts and comparisons to, let us say, Bush Jr, regarding this so-called indecisiveness.
bmad965Aug 23, 2010
But Bush was The Decider.
dinotAug 22, 2010
Oh for f**k's sake, the election was two years ago. Get a f**king life already.
nosecohnAug 22, 2010
I don't get it. What show is that altered clip from? (I don't live in the U.S., so sometimes I miss the cultural references.)
kellyAug 22, 2010
What you saw is a day-time talk show in the United States where they take a couple who has a baby and put them on the show. The interest factor is that the supposed father doesn't think he is the father and therefore shouldn't be responsible for expenses and parenting responsibilities while the mother says otherwise.
They do a paternity test where the results are read live on the show. The best episodes tend to be those that include black people as they tend to get so much more animated for some reason.
nosecohnAug 22, 2010
Wow... that sounds terrible. So glad I don't watch American TV.
unic0rnAug 22, 2010
Yes, it is quite terrible.
Most of the people on that show are the scum of America anyway.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
I watch Maury occasionally to feel better about myself...
And then I realize that these people have a vote that counts as much as mine and I regret my indulgence.
krinkovAug 22, 2010
check youtube for "Maury not the father" and enjoy the schadenfreude.
example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtWssdauME
mrquackerAug 22, 2010
Have you heard of Jerry Springer? This is similar.
antdudeAug 22, 2010
Where are you from and are there any good TV shows there? :)
itwasonlyajokeAug 22, 2010
Most Muslims don't talk like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmxVlHwLplE
Sorry, but the "Obama is Muslim" story just simply does not hold water. Anyone who accuses him of being Muslim is simply ignorant.
thejackylAug 22, 2010
"Anyone who accuses him of being Muslim is simply ignorant." No s**t?
berkanaAug 22, 2010
Willfully deceitful more than ignorant. A minister I used to respect went on some radio show and insisted that Obama had to be a Muslim for whatever list of reasons. I e-mailed him and told him it was unbefitting for him to politicize his ministry and to smear someone like that, and he responded to me by pointing out all the years Obama remained in Jeremiah Wright's church congregation. The level of mental dissonance these people are able to maintain is unbelievable.
captzomborgAug 22, 2010
I wish presidents were not forced to associate with Christianity in order to have a chance at office in this country. Whether he's actually a christian or not, he has to put on this show for all the religious nuts.
kanockAug 23, 2010
Agreed. For this reason you cannot conclusively say is he not an atheist or muslim. I have always found it hard to understand how intelligent people could be religious.
masamunecyrusAug 22, 2010
He could just host a huge pork BBQ at the white house, too. :)
kaltorakAug 22, 2010
They would just claim it was secretly a tofu pig or something.
finalstrikerAug 22, 2010
Most Extremists do talk like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9y9HU-gQg
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
You have been seriously misinformed about Islam. It is a fundamental tenant of Islam to believe in all the prophets. So, as long as someone is a true Muslim he/she believes in Jesus, Moses, Abraham just as much as they believe in Muhammad.
Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from the Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
panthusdireAug 22, 2010
you are correct sir!
itwasonlyajokeAug 22, 2010
That is not in the context I was referring to. As far as I can tell, Obama is saying he believes in him to forgive his sins. That is different from saying he was a great prophet or such.
Seriously, buy some reading glasses.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
What I was responding to was "No Muslims that I know of would ever say that they believed in Jesus Christ".
Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was a true prophet/messenger of God just as Abraham, Moses, Muhammad, and other prophets. Islam is a monotheistic religion and believing in Trinity would contradict that belief. Islam considers Christ's birth as a miracle just as the birth of Adam and Eve, they did not have any parents so would that make them Gods too? Also, Islam does not admit or deny resurrection. Islam does not guarantee redemption for anyone just because they claim they are Muslims. And, in Islam no one can take away another's sins, every soul is answerable for itself. IMO, in essence Quran does not ask you to do things much differently than the Bible. However, I have not read the Bible so I shall not make any tall claims to that effect.
Everyone has their own beliefs and I respect that, even the ones that do not believe their is any God. I do not think that it is my job to judge anyone. I was just trying to explain to you what I thought you had misunderstood, however, I did not intend to offend you. I apologize if I did.
itwasonlyajokeAug 22, 2010
I suggest you read the Bible, because in it, Jesus says he can forgive sins. I'm not understanding why Muslims would recognize him as a true prophet - I would think they would say he is a liar, because who he claims he was is in direct contradiction to the beliefs they have.
I also think that many of them do not even know Jesus' exact teachings, or they wouldn't say he was a great prophet. To be a great prophet, you have to be "right." If Jesus was a true messenger of God, you would have to believe what he said. What he said is completely different from what the Muslims I know of believe.
Closed AccountAug 23, 2010
You are right that most of us do not know Christ's teachings. I have been thinking about reading the Bible for a while, and I did try it once but the version I picked up was a bit difficult to understand, English not being my primary language. The way it works is Muslims believe that the teachings of Christ were distorted by people over time for their own benefit, the reason there was a need for another prophet. Muslims believe that there has been just one religion throughout, the religion of Abraham, and all the rest is it's evolution. It is the people who love to create differences, and hence branched out in to different religions. Again these are just the Muslim beliefs and I for one do not think rest of the world has to agree with it.
I want to make a request to you do not take Islam to be what most of the Muslims these days portray it to be. Most of the us these days haven't even ever read or tried to understand the Quran, so most are non-practicing so called Muslims.
As for forgiveness, that is something only God can do or the person/persons you have wronged. Though the famous quote is eye for an eye, and life for a life, but that is to serve justice. Quran does time and again advise it's followers to be forgiving, and insists forgiveness is the better path to take.
Another Islamophobic propaganda I would like to dispel is the notion that Islam orders Muslims to kill the infidels. That verse was in reference to a particular event in history, where the Muslims had made a pact with the inhabitants of Medina to unite in defending the city in case it were ever attacked. But, when that did happen some people broke that pact and started conspiring with the attackers. The Muslims were then ordered to find them and kill them till they give up their evil, conspiring ways. And the very next verse tells them not to exceed their limits once the planners have quit conspiring, as God does not like transgressors.
Again the purpose here is not to prove to you that Islam is the ultimate truth or anything. Just that we are being victimized, and we are at a low point in our history. And, though I do agree a few Muslims these days are not the best people you would want to interact with, but not all of us are like that. And thanks for your replies. The solution to these problems is not violence and hostility, but an intelligent dialogue and an understanding of each others point of view.
itwasonlyajokeAug 23, 2010
Wow, excellent explanation. Thanks for your comment.
Closed AccountAug 23, 2010
You are most welcome.
p0rtakal2Aug 22, 2010
In fact, Islam says that you can't be a muslim if you don't believe all the prophets. Including Jesus.
itwasonlyajokeAug 22, 2010
What does that even mean? If you believe in Jesus, would you not have to believe he is God in the flesh? Would you not also have to believe that what he said to do and believe is pretty much in contradiction of many things the Quran says to do?
p0rtakal2Aug 23, 2010
According to Islam, the Bible which was sent to Jesus was true. But then it changed and corrupted. So Muslims believe in Jesus, but not like the Bible described him. He's not the God in the flesh. He's a just a human. Like other prophets.
itwasonlyajokeAug 23, 2010
So the direct quotes from him in the Bible are lies? Why not just believe the entire thing is a lie?
4bitAug 23, 2010
@ItWas why believe the whole thing is completely true?
It's just how they believe it. Why do you believe it the way you do?
Haven't you ever agreed with someone... mostly... but thought they were wrong on some part? If, say you disagreed with me on this, would 2+2=4 suddenly be a lie just because I said it?
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
papers please! (sinister laughter)
botaxeroAug 22, 2010
Obama could just announce a press conference and eat a pulled pork sandwhich.
jdenzerAug 22, 2010
Are you kidding? Jesus Christ could come back and say Obama is not a Muslim and the wing-nuts would through Jesus under the bus and accuse Jesus of being a Muslim.
o76923Aug 22, 2010
or a godless liberal
gramathyAug 22, 2010
or a liberal jew (wait...)
melikbilgeAug 22, 2010
They'd call him a pussy for turning the other cheek and a dirty commie for his morals.
niccoswAug 22, 2010
Pork sandwich...or tofu sandwich? Obama: Muslim Vegetarian? Next on Fox News.
ghrayfahxAug 22, 2010
Pulled pork, wrapped in bacon, washed down with a beer facing away from Mecca during prayer time during Ramadan. Maybe then piss into a urinal that's in the direction of Mecca. (Maybe spitting would be more camera friendly.)
wilywondrAug 22, 2010
He has drank beer on camera so many times. Remember the "beer summit" with the cop and professor Gates?
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obama+drinks+beer
ghrayfahxAug 23, 2010
People could always claim it was non-alcoholic. Lets get him drinking a good German or Belgian beer. I almost forgot...
We need him reading Hustler. That'll cover pretty much everything.
mattm0914Aug 23, 2010
And then blowing his nose on a napkin with a picture of Mohammed on it.
alienmushroomAug 22, 2010
Then he will have to prove the pulled pork is, indeed, pulled pork.
djanakinAug 22, 2010
May I join him at this dinner? Mmmmm pulled pork.
spazattack5000Aug 22, 2010
At least they don't think he's an Atheist. He would be dead if that was the case :-|
davenp0rtAug 22, 2010
I wouldn't be surprised if he is an atheist. Politicians have to appeal to their constituency to get elected and the majority of Americans are Christian, so there has to be at least a few atheists pretending to go with the flow.
murmandamosAug 22, 2010
although the less educated you are, the more likely you are to be religious. looking at our current selection of representatives, i think it's a fair assumption that they are all idiots so they might be religious. personally though, aside from the really freaky southern reps, i imagine most liberal reps pretend to be religious to help maintain electability, and most conservatives use religion in a more aggressive way, but ultimately similarly to garner support.
gooblyAug 22, 2010
US Congress does not properly represent the demographics of the country in any respect. About 50.76% of the United States is female - therefore, of the 532 seats in the House of Reps 270 or so should be women. In reality, only 92 (17%) are.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
I would be, actually--you don't regularly attend services at a church for that many years without *some* belief. At most, I think he could hold looser Christian/religious beliefs, much as (many of) the Founding Fathers were deists.
danielhunterAug 22, 2010
Obama is probably a skeptic of some sort. Agnostic or atheist. He was raised by a skeptic (his mother was a fallen Christian that distrusted organized religion), and his father became an atheist after being a Muslim for much of his life.
And as was mentioned above, there is a direct correlation between atheism and intelligence. Considering how smart Barack is, he is probably an atheist that stays in the atheist 'closet' since he knows he'd lose most of his constituency.
At least, as a non-believer, that's what I'd like to believe.
gooblyAug 22, 2010
Eh... here you are doing the exact same thing that all the people calling him a Muslim are. You are speculating about what his "true" intentions or feelings are with no regard for what he says and does.
Obama says he is a Christian and apparently prays and goes to Church. Why can't we just accept that he is a Christian? Don't get me wrong - I'm not cheering for Christianity or anything. I'm also a nonbeliever.
What really bothers me is that everyone thinks they know the real truth.
frankoceanAug 22, 2010
Nop, he's a Christian, know people who has pray with him, at his request.
You can still be intelligent and be a Christian you know?.
danielhunterAug 22, 2010
@goobly Except I'm not making assumptions about him based on his race or based on my bigoted views of other religions.
But, to some extent, some of Obama's religious detractors are right. How many presidents have been seen in church as little as he has? Very few, I imagine.
Anyway, he's a smart dude. If I was in the position to be a big political figure, like a senator or president, I'd probably lie about my religion. It's really the only way to get any non-believers in office until the current bunch of old people die off.
gooblyAug 22, 2010
I don't buy it. This all seems like wishful thinking on your part. Obama has repeatedly said that he is a Christian, and lacking evidence to the contrary I think we should take him at his word.
Arguing against his stated religion is, whether you like it or not, lending credibility to people who say they know his religion affiliation (be it Muslim, atheist, whatever) better than he does.
danielhunterAug 22, 2010
Let's think of one possible reason he wouldn't state his true beliefs... Uh, because he wouldn't get elected?
Are you implying politicians should be taken at their word? That's a funny concept.
And I'm not saying I know his religious affiliation. Just that it wouldn't be surprising at that it is, from a statistical standpoint, more likely than most people think.
kaidovakAug 22, 2010
Easy solution: Serve ham at a white house christmas dinner, followed by a cold beer.
yansanAug 22, 2010
honestly i don't think any of that would work. the people that believe he is Muslim have no idea what beliefs or traditions Muslims actually practice.
hantuduppyAug 22, 2010
The cold beer part already happened. Why didn't it work? Because YanSan is correct. They all know he's not a Muslim, but they really enjoy acting like he is, because they want to hate on him and don't have anything legitimate to bitch about.
Obama having a cold beer, covered by many major news outlets:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8208602&page=1
volume909Aug 22, 2010
It has to suck living in America as a Muslim and being indirectly bashed for how they live their life.
rhkenjiAug 22, 2010
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emailowndmeAug 22, 2010
The current Jewish population of Iran is estimated by most sources to be 25,000,[6][7][8][9] though estimates vary, as low as 11,000 [10] and as high as 40,000.[11] Notable population centers include Tehran, Isfahan (1,200)[9], and Shiraz. Historically, Jews maintained a presence in many more Iranian cities. Jews are protected in the Iranian constitution.[7] Iran hosts the largest Jewish population of any Muslim-majority country.[12] After Israel, it is home to the second-largest Jewish population in the Middle East.[6]
daggersecurityAug 22, 2010
Just what prohibition is there for christians living in muslim countries (excluding Saudi Arabia)? There are thriving christian minorities all accross north africa and east Asia. The problems in Indonesia are very recent. For the most part its easier to be a Christian in Morocco than it is to be a Muslim in the US.
Here is an article written in 1992 explaining the need for the US government to "create" the threat of Islam:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-177.html
The people who support and wrote that article have been pretty successful since then at stoking the fires of hate and paranoia on both sides. There is more going on here than meets the eye but predictably too many of us are content to be spoon feed our information by people who obviously have an underlying agenda.
hatdropAug 22, 2010
"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
emailowndmeAug 22, 2010
I don't get what the hell the Republicans are smoking, most Muslims are hard line, well educated, capitalists in the US. If they aren't college educated, their kids sure as hell will be, and they will grow up to be doctors, teachers, engineers, chemists, etc.
If the Republicans want to get back a smart base, they'd do no harm seeking Muslims, as they are an exact match for about 96% of their philosophy. I mean, they are commanded by Quiran to make profits, and be charitable. None of that begger nor a lender be nonsense.
hatdropAug 22, 2010
Republicans don't want a smart base, smart people are more difficult to fool, and they're only with have of that commandment, the make profit part and really dont give a rats ass about being charitable.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Republicans argue for charity? I know that Republicans supposedly give more in general to charity, but I haven't gotten that impression. Their vehement resistance to entitlement programs seems to suggest a different attitude--perhaps charity only if they can personally take credit for being generous?
morpheousmartyAug 22, 2010
He should just come out as an Atheist. Ok, maybe not until his second term.
DurkadurAug 22, 2010
He could always eat a pound of bacon.
busterbrosAug 22, 2010
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/04/obama-savors-some-very-special.html
jdenzerAug 22, 2010
Hey right-wingers, please choose one. He is either a Muslim or a Christian who sat in Rev. Wrights church. He can't be both, it defies logic. Oh wait, I forgot who I was talking to, the party that defies all logic.
bearpaw88Aug 22, 2010
Clearly he was only masquerading as a Christian so he could be part of Reverend Wright's anti-white tirades, since he's also a racist. He went to his mosque directly after Sunday church.
hatdropAug 22, 2010
obviously his parents planted him as a terrorist baby! slowly biding their time until the day he can ascend to the presidency and destroy the country from within!
vatosplaceAug 22, 2010
denies, not defies.
nubnubAug 22, 2010
Funny fail
benroyAug 22, 2010
Is it really any surprise that America is 20% retarded?
1/5 of Americans support Sarah Palin
1/5 of Americans support the Tea Party
1/5 of Americans oppose health reform
1/5 of Americans oppose gay marriage
1/5 of Americans supported George Bush
1/5 of Americans oppose net neutrality
Etc...
Get out and VOTE!!!
Prove these retards wrong.
tsk05Aug 22, 2010
Ya ya, anyone who disagrees with your point of view is retarded, we get it.
benroyAug 22, 2010
Strong words for a right-wing troll.
TROLL!!!
berkanaAug 22, 2010
If you'd take a look at what he wrote, he wasn't talking about anyone who disagrees with him, just that 1/5th that seems to consistently embrace the most ridiculous views.
tsk05Aug 22, 2010
Berkana,
I guess if you're under the assumption it's the same 1/5th. I belong to two of those 6.
With regards to health reform, the US can't do it right, too many people paid off. (Note that universal healthcare is not right as far as I am concerned). I'd rather we leave it alone than implement something like what we just did, which admittedly raises premiums even higher and is only cheaper through subsidies, which in turn we pay and which in turn makes the government more powerful (controlling health is a very nice string to pull).
I am also against net neutrality. One the one hand, the oligopoly we have should pay us back for all the money we spent building the infrastructure, on the other hand, anything the government gets its hand on ends up being censored. See FCC and radio, the original point was to protect "us" from evil corporations. I'd rather eat the loss and have the internet free than the reverse. Of course, some people trust the government more than corporations. I do not - and the reason most people do not trust corporations is that they do evil things but those evil things are all done in collusion with the government (ie, the oligopoly we have now, where the government doesn't approve any new fiber unless it's being built by the large corporations), so why would I trust the government which can screw everyone sideways without needing to collude over the corporations which must first receive approval from the government?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
melikbilgeAug 22, 2010
Did you say you're against net neutrality? Then you really ARE retarded.
hatdropAug 22, 2010
good lord against net neutrality?! can you imagine how difficult it'll be to get porn if the bandwidth of porn sites get throttled?!!?!?!?!?
nidy1Aug 22, 2010
"(Note that universal healthcare is not right as far as I am concerned)."
You're allowed to have your opinion, but I'm allowed to ask you to explain it. Why is universal healthcare not right?
tsk05Aug 22, 2010
Regarding net neutrality, strong argument you have there melikbilge and hatdrop.
Regarding universal healthcare, for starters, because we can't afford it. And pointing to other countries which have lower costs (for the government) isn't proof or even evidence that universal healthcare is going to cut costs in this country. If they started universal healthcare and then costs fell from before, that's evidence. It is logically absolutely impossible for universal healthcare to decrease government debt - the money to pay for it has to come from somewhere. The only way to decrease the debt with universal healthcare is if the government increases taxes beyond costs but I don't think that's what universal healthcare proponents want.. Second reason is as I mentioned previously, way too much power to the government. Third reason is that previously tried massive government programs in this country have all failed (ie, are in debt): medicare, medicaid, social security. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hatdropAug 23, 2010
well if you want an actual argument, how bout the fact that the internet is the last bastion of true freedom of speech? sure i may be a leftist but everyone should be allowed to disseminate what ever type of information they want to regardless of political agenda. to allow telecoms to throttle access purely out of political reasons is inherently undemocratic and only practiced in fascist/communist states. broadband access being finite is also a joke/flat out lie, go to other developed countries with larger internet consumption and they still have better data transfer rates, transfer rates over here are falsely capped just like gas prices are also artificially inflated.
so yes if you are against net neutrality you are against freedom of speech, a true free market, equal and fair access, and therefore mentally deficient.
ramilehtiAug 22, 2010
I think that correlation of having any two of those opinions is rather high.
solistusAug 22, 2010
Sadly, the proportion is a lot higher than 1/5 for many of those. All the more reason for us sane folks to vote.
botaxeroAug 22, 2010
OMG, 6/5s of the country are stupid!
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
I literally cracked up when I read that--thanks :D
aeroforce129Aug 22, 2010
Literally?
Closed AccountAug 23, 2010
@aeroforce129 Yes. Literally.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Let me correct this real quick for you...
1/4 of Americans support Sarah Palin
1/3 of Americans support the Tea Party
1/2 Americans oppose health reform.
3/5 Americans oppose gay marriage.
1/3 supported Gearge Bush
3/5 Americans oppose net neutrality
Check your data man.
supurcellAug 22, 2010
Oh, my god. It's worse than we thought. According to this new data, at least 1/4 of the US is retarded.
murmandamosAug 22, 2010
i don't think you need to use the lowest to get the minimum, since these are basically all-or-nothing topics, that if you fall into the fraction, you simply ARE retarded. for example, you have to be retarded to oppose gay marriage and net neutrality, either one, so at least 3/5 of the us is retarded.
tragedyfishAug 22, 2010
I personally think W's estranged brother Gearge would have been a great president. Oh well.
apokalyps2547Aug 22, 2010
I think the gay marriage one is squarely 1/2 these days.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/gaymarriagegraph.jpg
eam5210Aug 22, 2010
I say we give them a state or two, hand out helmets and safety scissors and just let them run around in circles to their heart's content.
Maybe move them to Alaska, seems like people with mental disabilities are treated well there from what I've seen. Who knows maybe they could even go on to hold high positions in state government there.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Coming from a left of center person, I think that some of the tea party's basic principles as far as government spending goes are OK. But their ideological views I cannot follow.
We're told to be smart with our money, but the government (read: politicians) spend like drunken teenagers with their parents' black card. Whether it is tax and spend liberals or borrow and spend neo-cons, they are both leading us down a road that goes nowhere.
jcolt84Aug 22, 2010
Dude f**k the tea party until they follow Ron Paul. How can you be against wasteful spending and support these wars. The CIA claims there are 100 "terrorists" in Afghanistan and we have 100,000 troops with tanks over there. Something don't add up but these Obama loving diggers keep lovin. They were so anti war till Obama took office and changed nothing. The Tea Party as well as the Republican Party have been hijacked by NeoCons.
baskinsAug 22, 2010
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blatsekAug 22, 2010
Do you know why so many people oppose net neutrality? Watch Fox News. They just COMPLETELY make up what it even is. They portray it as the OPPOSITE of what it really is.
jcolt84Aug 22, 2010
Your the dumbass. Healthcare reform? We are bankrupt. Are you an Obama supporter? Think he and Bush arent one in the same? Do you support the constitution?
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taaybAug 22, 2010
1. There is a huge difference between the actual tea party and the right wing morons who claim to be a part of the tea party and show up all over the news. The Tea Party movement is supposed to be about low government spending, rights of the states, etc. The people you see on the news do not know what the f**k they are talking about and have no business associating themselves with any "tea party" movement.
2. I support Health Care reform but I do not support the abortion of a health care bill that was passed by Congress that forces citizens to buy the product of a private corporation. Sorry. If I want to take a risk it's my risk to take. Driving is a privilege so please don't even TRY to use that as an example. The federal government has no authority to force me to fork out my money for the services of a private company.
3. There are legitimate concerns that many people have with the issue of net neutrality. It is not as cut and dry as you would like it to be. I support new net neutrality legislation but I tread carefully. This is the perfect opportunity for the federal government to assume new powers over the internet and exchange of information that they never had any business controlling. I don't want broadband treated as a public utility where the government starts over-regulating it.
Furthermore, if you can't understand or respect other peoples opinions or thoughts on the matter you really aren't any smarter than the people you are calling "retards."
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
So embarrassed by this nation sometimes. For f**k's sake...1 in 5 people know less than the average 11-year-old kid.
hatdropAug 22, 2010
not to mention the average reading level is 7th grade, wth our basic education ends after the 12th grade!
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Unfortunately, all that means is that some average 11-year-old kids will develop a severe case of retardation as they grow older.
mrquackerAug 22, 2010
BACON!!!!
He just needs to be photographed eating bacon. Simple. foolproof. tasty.
solistusAug 22, 2010
I just did a Google Image search. I found him eating cheeseburgers, hot dogs, cheesesteaks, pizza, frog legs, waffles, ice cream... But not one confirmed shot of the President eating a pork product. For the first time I'm worried those wingnuts might be onto something!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
captzomborgAug 22, 2010
well that depends if that hot dog was an all beef frank or not. if it just says "franks" on the package, it contains pork.
solistusAug 22, 2010
The package wasn't in view; it was at a hot dog stand at what looked to be some kind of county/state fair or something similar. I was assuming it was probably an all beef frank, since most "good" hot dogs are.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
speedAug 22, 2010
State fairs don't usually serve the good s**t, do they? I'm not an American, but if they're like the expos I've been to in Canada, the food they serve is likely the cheap s**t, just jacked up in price.
captzomborgAug 23, 2010
I agree with Speed, if it's from a vendor, it's probably the cheapest s**t they can find. Unless it's a jewish vendor.
joot2112Aug 22, 2010
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/04/obama-savors-some-very-special.html
farbooAug 22, 2010
Does eating bacon while having breakfast with a Jew count?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/obama-and-bloombergs-breakfast-date
woollymittensAug 22, 2010
It may come as a shock that almost half the population is of a lower than average intelligence.
(That almost everyone judges themselves to be above average is another matter entirely.)
solistusAug 22, 2010
Can't remember where the quote originally comes from, but:
"Think of it this way. Think of how stupid the average person is. Now consider that 50% of the population is dumber than that!"
diggnabbitAug 22, 2010
George Carlin, I believe.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
It may also come as a shock that intelligence metrics are in themselves controversial and that tests and scores are usually modified to fit people to a standard distribution, meaning that what is considered "average" may not actually reflect reality for whatever definition of "intelligence" we use.
sangfroid0Aug 22, 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
russ3Aug 22, 2010
look this seems like a very misleading subject, google obama christian in the google news and you will see what i mean
persiyanAug 22, 2010
The next president needs to be an agnostic, that way there won't be a need for stories li... wait, it doesn't matter, some f**king idiot somewhere will think otherwise no matter what.
Anyways, everyone should acknowledge being agnostic, it's ok to admit we don't know, because we f**king don't. That would automatically diminish humanity's problems in half.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
HERETIC!
jackredmondAug 22, 2010
I would rather such a prominent leader of the world be hiding the fact that they're a Muslim, than be a proud Christian.
pintomp3Aug 22, 2010
Two back to back front pages for alanocu. I guess Digg Patriots are back in business.
blitz9200Aug 22, 2010
They never stopped. Some days they just don't show themselves, usually when there are undefendable articles. This way, they can pretend it didn't happen.
soaveAug 22, 2010
Why is this really an issue? Even if he was a Muslim, so what?
vatosplaceAug 22, 2010
That makes him scary to the sheeple.
snapcaseAug 22, 2010
But don't you know all them there Muslims are terrorists and whatnot? I mean if Fox News supports the notion it's gotta be true, they're fair and balanced!
/s
cyberbeastAug 22, 2010
Is Obama Muslim (Does it really matter?)?
Is Obama Cristian?
What I know is that Obama is a hypocritical liar - because 99% that he is atheist or agnostic, but he puts the religious mask to lure more votes. It is time for politicians to grow some balls and admit their real belief (or disbelief ;) ).
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melikbilgeAug 22, 2010
Aaaaaand lose a second term? I don't think it's a good idea for him to "come out" as anything else right now. It's sad that the president has to be as "normal" as possible to get votes in this country.
wkrausmannAug 22, 2010
Let's see him take communion...
joot2112Aug 22, 2010
A lot of Protestants dropped that part...
gooblyAug 22, 2010
Although joot2112 already pointed this out, I must reiterate it because you are obviously a moron: The majority of Protestants do not take communion.
salbatrossAug 22, 2010
*very often.
docholiday22Aug 22, 2010
"obama is muslim. u can tell by the way he walks and talks. look at him. the queen of england also muslim.... f**k it... I'm going noodling and drinking beer."
Comment from another thread. I guess we know what part of America thinks this; especially with "noodling" quote.
kingp43Aug 22, 2010
lol, what's noodling?
guillauweAug 22, 2010
I couldn't understand everything in the video cause the guy was speaking too fast sometimes, but I have understand that few Americans are completely stupid... and the even the question is stupid, we don't care to know the religion of the president Obama, they are suppose to be equal and fair for all religion... I think some of them (Americans) have said that Obama is a Muslim because he is black... it's a kind of racism or really worrying obscurantism....
And if someone could reply to my comment to write me the "joke' concerning the friend of Obama... Cause I can understand if it's written, but to hear it's really difficult :))
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dkevinscalfAug 22, 2010
The Freeman excels at all things. There is no distance between us. No false veil of time or space may intervene.
guillauweAug 22, 2010
lol?
guillauweAug 22, 2010
what a stupid reply :s
mwrlAug 22, 2010
This is more about saying things just to annoy the left then a real backing. Keeping them on the defensive so they can not push as many liberal programs. Sadly this hasn't worked as well as it could have.
This poll should read, 18% of American's are Trolls!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cayfoxAug 22, 2010
They're not trolls. The demagogues on Fox News and conservative talk radio are the trolls. You people are the lulzcows.
inkabadgerAug 22, 2010
I got the answer, if he is found eating food in daylight hours over the next while (Ramadan people) he's not a Muslim.
fissiongrubbsAug 22, 2010
Not good enough. They will counter and say lying to infidels is approved.
aforsbergAug 22, 2010
I have something for Obama to read.
"No, I am not Muslim. I am *whatever he is*. Even if I were, would that matter? Are you people so bigoted that something as private as a man's religion will change weather or not you want him in his rightfully elected place of power?"
rikfAug 22, 2010
Obama can change the weather? I'm sold :)
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
apparently obama got the restaurant spaggia in chicago to put its wood-roasted scallops back on the menu because he liked them so much.
shellfish and muslims don't mix.
dollar0dot02Aug 22, 2010
shellfish and muslims don't mix.
unless you are a canibal
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
No...shellfish are not Kosher.....
"Of the things that are in the waters, you may eat anything that has fins and scales. Lev. 11:9; Deut. 14:9. Thus, shellfish such as lobsters, oysters, shrimp, clams and crabs are all forbidden. Fish like tuna, carp, salmon and herring are all permitted."
"The Qur'an makes it quite clear as to what is halal and haram. Basically, all food is halal except for the following:
Meat from swine
Pork-based products and by-products
Animals improperly slaughtered, or already dead before slaughtering is due to take place
Animals killed or sacrificed in the name of others than Allah (swt)
Intoxicants/alcohol
Most carnivorous animals, birds of prey and land animals without external ears (i.e., snakes, reptiles, worms, insects etc.)
Blood and blood by-products
Foods contaminated with any of the above products"
:p
dollar0dot02Aug 23, 2010
@jhmcneil I know the difference between Kosher and Halal.There is also a Hadith that everything from the sea is Halal. My comment was a reply to "shellfish and muslims don't mix", which sounded as if somebody was going to eat shellfish and Muslims.
donttreadonmikeAug 22, 2010
I haven/t seen the video yet but let me guess. He can eat ham. Is it ham? Let me watch now and see if I'm right......
Damn I was wrong.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Why is this even still being discussed
animan351Aug 22, 2010
What not just dig up some footage of him eating some delicious bacon and pork chops? Or maybe pork chops wrapped in bacon?
eh123Aug 22, 2010
Obama is an atheist who pretends to be a christian who was rasied as a muslim.
murmandamosAug 22, 2010
while i believe there are some politicians who fake religiosity for votes, obama went to the same church regularly for 20 years, and i don't think you would do that unless you were sincere. he couldn't have been thinking 20 years ago, okay, i need to find a church and just keep going for 2 decades until i get elected to public office.
alienmushroomAug 22, 2010
Whatever. It's not like any other religion is any better.
ljgivAug 22, 2010
Don't worry 18% Jesus will soon come from the sky to save you.
/sarcasm
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
"Don't worry 18% Jesus will soon come from the sky to save you. "
I see that you left out the word "believe" in that sentence. Sarcasm only works when the concept is clearly written and/or spoken correctly.
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gooblyAug 22, 2010
Finally. Some proof that I, as an American, can understand.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
All he has to do is have a press conference showing him having breakfast. Have him eat some bacon in the middle of the day during Ramadan.
though i guess wingnuts would say its turkey bacon. And they probably won't understand the strict rules of ramadan and would probably ignore it.
bsmangAug 22, 2010
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think4yourselffAug 22, 2010
It's pretty obvious he's Luciferian...otherwise he wouldn't have been made president.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Muslim or not, what does his personal faith have to do with his job? I know he is not a Muslim, but I also don't care what he is. I'd vote for a Scientologist if he or she can [somehow] prove they are the right person for the job. A majority of Americans voted Obama in and essentially hired him to be president because he was the best man for the job. I think any candidate that proclaims their faith should be disqualified and it should not be asked by any journalist. There needs to be a complete separation from church and state. This practice is not done when hiring someone for any other job. It is 100% illegal. Could you imagine not hiring someone because of their faith? Can you say lawsuit? 18% of this country is not necessarily dumb, but certainly ignorant. You cannot turn proof into theory and choose not to believe it.
willthewayAug 22, 2010
Now if he can just prove to the idiots on Digg that Obama is not an atheist, it'll be a great day.
pissingmoaningAug 22, 2010
Why is everyone freaking out about this? He was born to a Muslim father - HENCE - he's a Muslim.
atheuzAug 22, 2010
LOGIC.
/s
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
yes, because we all know religion is hereditary.
Closed AccountAug 22, 2010
Islam is handed down from the father by belief not by heredity. Since man is the head of the household, decision-maker, what have you, he determines the religion the family practices. This is why Muslim women may not marry Christian men, otherwise reverse is okay because the wife may convert and/or stfu. Judaism is passed down through the mother, by heredity, because it is clearly obvious who the mother is, but not always who the father is
lilhelperAug 22, 2010
WOW, he is not a muslim!!! EVEN IF HE WAS, I WOULDN'T CARE!
speedAug 22, 2010
Here's a question: what if he is a Muslim? I mean, why would it really matter? We already know what his politics are, so why does it matter where he prays?
blklightningAug 23, 2010
because far-right idiots will somehow link that to the fact that the terrorists of 9/11 were muslims. and consequently, obama must be an al-qaeda plant or some stupid s**t.
mattm0914Aug 23, 2010
Because there's a huge chunk of voters who don't concern themselves much with politics, but would never vote for anyone who doesn't hold the same religious beliefs as they do. If you convince them that one of them is of a different religion, the other guy gets their vote by default. It's as it has always been... those in power use religion to manipulate the masses.