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janincoJul 11, 2010
Well, that's one way to keep the criminal elemnet away.
Too bad they don't require that to enter this country!
bluto36Jul 11, 2010
oh no now you did it.
you cant compare a bunch of degenerate 3rd world low life criminals and drug dealers that are a scourge on society to people coming here looking for a better life.
kershekJul 12, 2010
...illegally.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
When I last visited the US I was fingerprinted and photographed, everyone was...
ninseiJul 12, 2010
That's why I'm not interested in going there any more :)
azwethinkweizmJul 12, 2010
Isn't America a free country?
vendrakeJul 12, 2010
No.
wootupJul 12, 2010
Man you Americans are a dumb lot
Imaginary WMDs, No Habeus Corpus, Illegal Wiretapping, Internet Surveillance, Torture
And not only do you keep bending over and taking it, but you post comments on the internet ENDORSING it.
Madness.
realcoolguy9022Jul 12, 2010
This is not madness, THIS IS THE RIGHT WING OF THE AMERICAN POLITICAL LOUDLY VOICING IT'S OPPOSITION TO THE *breath* CONTINUED TRAFFIC OF ILLEGALS CROSSING THE BORDER AGAINST THE RULE OF LAW!
(I should have just said SPARTA!) Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
wootupJul 12, 2010
@MercenarySlick
I'm not a Brit...
neutron7Jul 12, 2010
Americans are not dumb. you can hear them from a mile away.
feeishJul 12, 2010
Madness this is.......... AMERICA!!!
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
...says the guy who has clearly never left this country
thepartystarJul 11, 2010
This is a park or a trap?
mra45Jul 12, 2010
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kingfootJul 12, 2010
Should be ?
donaldcapsJul 12, 2010
Its hard to catch real criminals. Much easier to just sit outside the skatepark and pick on teenagers.
alanocuJul 11, 2010
Motion detectors, fingerprints, cameras....? Forget it....
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
Now if the vandals are thinking like you, then the measures are working.
bagos1Jul 12, 2010
I hope you can open carry. That would complete the saftey scenario.
bluto36Jul 11, 2010
i left my DNA... so we good?
bille3Jul 11, 2010
The skate park has been in the news before due to the crime and vandalism.
I guess it was go this route or just close the park.
Now the authorities are going to know all they can about the innocent park users and have no idea who the criminals and vandals are.
drmangrumJul 12, 2010
Ironically, the same people angry at the new rules are probably the same people who the new rules are meant to protect against.
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
Non-ironically, you're an idiot. "the same people angry at the new rules are probably the same people who the new rules are meant to protect against"? On what logical basis does something like that come close to making sense.
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
i swear, 95% of the "irony" on Digg, isn't.
it would be "ironic" if:
* the finger print scanner caused graffiti
* these measures wound up chasing away everyone but the vandals
irony requires an intent, and an unexpected outcome contrary to the intent, like a safety barrier which causes accidents.
nerysJul 12, 2010
thats right the unexpected outcome (or it SHOULD be expected if anyone reads history but we are all blind here) is that it WON'T make the park safer.
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
"irony requires an intent, and an unexpected outcome contrary to the intent, like a safety barrier which causes accidents. "
Red lights w/ strobes in them are a good example, IMO.
ebcreasonerJul 12, 2010
After 6 pm that is. Why not all the time.
Quit being so scared. If I went there, I would be fingerprinted, yep I went there, thanks. Yep that's me on video skatin. What is the problem? I don't get it. Start demanding that users of our space must treat it with respect. If you see someone doing something STUPID, something should be done, I don't know maybe talk. We need to be more aware of others instead of so aware of cops and security measures. They are there because too many dumbasses didn't care about the park and did whatever to make the park unsafe.
Demand social responsibility from your neighbors.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nerysJul 12, 2010
If our government was submissive to the people as it should be. If our police were submissive to the people as it should be. If our government and police obeyed the constitution AS THE RULE OF LAW SAYS THEY MUST.
If our government and police were trustworthy
all this would not be a problem. I would gladly let them fingerprint and photo me if I thought I could trust them and it would work the way it SHOULD WORK.
but it won't they will use abuse and store the info for any purpose EXCEPT my own good and it will have almost no effect on safety.
nthammerJul 12, 2010
I like you, Nery's
balancingactJul 11, 2010
It seems as if they are trying to kill an ant with a sledgehammer, to quote a phrase.
polackmd52324Jul 12, 2010
This country is turning into a polica state!!
drmangrumJul 12, 2010
It's a private company instituting measures on their own property, not the government imposing requirements. If you're going to use alarmist labels, at least use them correctly.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
andrewjcJul 12, 2010
Did you miss the part where it's a CITY park?
eikon89Jul 12, 2010
My tinfoil hat is already on my head, sir.
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
@polackmd
You should see the measure used to protect PRIVATE property.
deffJul 12, 2010
"Papers, please!"
hu99Jul 12, 2010
They may as well destroy the park and build a f**king strip mall.
samurimasterJul 12, 2010
Only if it's a literal strip mall
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
@Hu99
There's less graffiti and crime at a strip mall, and hey, a lot more capital being generated. And that's always a good thing, right?
hurrayforschoolJul 12, 2010
You can scan my ass, Poway.
frostekJul 12, 2010
Ass-scans are also acceptable for identification! /scan droid
ratsgJul 13, 2010
rectal-scan
diskohJul 12, 2010
I lost my arms in Vietnam. Nice to know I'm not welcome at their skatepark because I defended our country.
whodoneitJul 12, 2010
Why would you want to go there? Not like you could pull off any of the tricks that require you to grab your skateboard.
diskohJul 12, 2010
That is incredibly rude. I use my teeth for grabbing tricks.
mra45Jul 12, 2010
I find it incredible that you still manage to type.
admiralwoofJul 12, 2010
I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE, IT WAS THE ONE-EYED, ONE-ARMED, ONE-LEGGED MAN
diskohJul 12, 2010
Thanks man.
abdulnJul 12, 2010
I find it incredible that a person who would be at the very least almost 50 years old with no arms would riding a skateborad.
flip2tripJul 13, 2010
@abduln--He just said he lost his arms in veitnam. He didn't say during the war--perhaps it was a skateboarding accident?
admiralwoofJul 12, 2010
I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE, IT WAS THE ONE-EYED, ONE-ARMED, ONE-LEGGED MAN
sergeantawesomeJul 12, 2010
I'm sure the park would be like GTFO you handicapped person without arms! I'm sure there are no exceptions to their rule.
geewillie86Jul 12, 2010
It seems that they've turned an undesirable locale into an undesirable locale that costs an extra $91,000. Government at its finest...
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
Conservatives don't mind wasting tax dollars if it means they get to feel 'safer'.
iamacyborgJul 12, 2010
A $1 million undesirable locale...
azwethinkweizmJul 12, 2010
What's the big deal? It's a privately owned park so they can do whatever the hell they want.
Don't like it? Skate somewhere else.
smokezzJul 12, 2010
Learn to read the article maybe?
"This is a city park; it has to be returned to the citizens. We want kids in here, we want adults in here, we want a secure, safe environment; this is not a free-for-all," said Poway City Councilman Jim Cunningham.
thecoffeeJul 12, 2010
What the hell is a privately owned park anyway? A golf course?
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Disneyland
dclawJul 12, 2010
Living near Poway, and having skated at this park before.... I can't f**king believe this. They are simply trying to add all these kids "to the system" so they can track them down years down the line when they are likely to get into trouble in other ways. Now they automagically have their full name, address, fingerprints, etc... It's total bs.
tnoyJul 12, 2010
California gained knowledge of my full name, address, and fingerprint when I got my drivers license.
oboshoeJul 12, 2010
California takes your fingerprint for a drivers license?
damn.
superkendallJul 12, 2010
What states do not take a fingerprint for the drivers licence?
oboshoeJul 12, 2010
Ohio and North Carolina doesn't.
kingfootJul 12, 2010
WA resident here; No fingerprints on record (footprints from birth though).
somguyeJul 12, 2010
Florida here.
No fingerprints for Driver's License.
goldyoshiJul 13, 2010
Every-state-but-California-here
No fingerprints for any crap. Because California sucks.
lolcoelacanthJul 12, 2010
Can we say paranoid libertarian?
fishpunchJul 12, 2010
Wait, that sounds like a really good idea to me... why are you complaining?
whaaamoJul 12, 2010
I'm going to agree with lolcoelacanth here. It's just paranoia. I was fingerprinted when I got my license and it's no big deal. I don't care because I'm not a criminal.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
another example of big brother acclimating all of us drones. it's cool though. we'll all shut up and take it.
animan351Jul 12, 2010
I really hope the community doesn't stand for something so ridiculously invasive and does what it takes to remove it before the government thinks it's exceptable to do things of this nature where they please.
mra45Jul 12, 2010
"...they also installed barbed wire around the wrought iron fence, and robotic turrets that fire rockets across the perimeter."
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
Knock over a few homeless shelters on the edge of it, and it call it "New Gaza".
rexofromeJul 12, 2010
This is a great idea. We should extend it to banks, schools, federal buildings etc. And even better would be to have you leave a DNA sample. This is sure to stop all the criminal behavior. /s
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Banks? Banks are privately owned......at least until Obama takes them over. I'm sure they're on his list.
Nobody said this was supposed to 'stop' criminal behavior.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
whaaamoJul 12, 2010
Hur dur, Obama is a socialist
thetruthbringerJul 12, 2010
There's always the alternative if you don't want your fingerprint taken.
Don't go in.
It's also worth remembering that you get put "in the system" with fingerprints when you get a learners permit or drivers license in the Cali.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Is that true? CA fingerprints all people that get a driver's license?
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
Yep.
I asked what would happen if I refused once at the DMV. The lady said "Then we refuse your request for Drivers License. Next!"
swiftheartJul 12, 2010
Yes. And I am blown away that so many people willingly get fingerprinted.
Texas does it too. Go figure. (The others: HI, OK, CO and maybe DC)
But I have known of people who have gotten around it. They register their car to a corporation to have CA plates, and use a non-CA license.
iamacyborgJul 12, 2010
Can they choose not pay for the park as well? I didn't think so. Now shut up.
burrduggJul 12, 2010
Skaters are less inclined to damage property when you fingerprint them at the entrence. No, they are rebelious, don't get me wrong, but only when mommy is not looking.
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travelsonicJul 12, 2010
[citation[s] needed]
texmexrexJul 12, 2010
[citation[s] needed] for anything i don't agree with. Otherwise, it's cool.
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
"[citation[s] needed] for anything i don't agree with. Otherwise, it's cool."
Citations needed for baseless generaliztions, then again you're probably too retarded to know the difference between calling out a baseless generalization and using a comeback to cheaply deflect something you odn't agree with.
thetruthbringerJul 12, 2010
Probably a safe bet the pedos will want to go someplace else now for their potential prey.
epersonJul 12, 2010
And ollies.
krinkovJul 12, 2010
sucks to say but otherwise they will just close the public skate park. I've seen 3 close here in the last 5 years.
cawpinJul 12, 2010
The only problem is a public park doesn't have any legal means to require fingerprints. They'll get sued and lose, wasting even more public money.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Authoritative police state just like Nazi Germany is coming to the USA from the inside out.
thetruthbringerJul 12, 2010
"Just like!"
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
I see, so "anti skater vandalism" is now "pro Nazi".
Quit being such a drama queen and go clean your room. Your mom would appreciate it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
All I was trying to say that this country is more and more like the book 1984.
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
It's starting to look more like "Idiocracy" than "1984".
analogandererJul 12, 2010
People get way to bent out of shape over skateboarders. If you treat people like s**t, they are going to treat you like s**t. I've watched cops be dicks to skaters, and I've watched cops kindly ask them to leave an area they aren't supposed to be in. Guess how each situation ended up.
thetruthbringerJul 12, 2010
No guess needed. The skaters left in each situation. In the first case, possibly by way of the local jail and in the second case, probably by way of the local sidewalk.
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
Lemmie guess:
Situation 1: Tension, resentment, and a new found deep hate for cops.
Situation 2: Probably still had resentment in there, but overall a far more interaction on the part of the skater AND the cop.
vonsamaJul 12, 2010
Now if only there where cops that gave skaters recommendations for good spots...
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
If there are cops that give recommendations for train spotters/photographers, there HAS to be cops that do the same for skateboarders.
whaaamoJul 12, 2010
I have a few skater friends and all of them say that most of the cops they've dealt with weren't assh**es. They do, however, say that some of the people they've skated with are assh**es.
samurimasterJul 12, 2010
Ice cream and unicorns ?
drunkenkiteJul 12, 2010
"SKATINGS NOT A CRIME assh**E!" both times?
themonikerJul 12, 2010
I skateboarded for about 5 years (age 13 - 18), with a wide variety of people and had many run-ins with police and security. I don't think that there's a generalization to be made about personalities of the police that we came across (or the skateboarders) some of the police and security were civil and courteous, some just began the encounter with swearing and threats. Similarly, some of the skateboarders were jerks and some were good people through and through.
I will agree with your observation that, the majority of the time when the security or police were respectful (though sadly, not always) they were met with respect and the situations turned out for the best in the long run for all involved.
angryredplanetJul 13, 2010
I've been a skater for a long time (the better part of the last 20 years), although not so much these days. I can vouch that the older you are the harder you fall! I've always tried to be respectful of police but some make it really difficult and just need a scapegoat to vent on.
Once I was carrying groceries home on my board and was apprehended and hauled down to the police station for being a public nuisance - not that you can do much under heavy load. I ended up stranded in the city - groceries, no money and no transport other than my board. I tried skating home again and the *same cop* pulled me over half way there only to repeat the process. My rational explanation didn't fare so well on that occasion and I was told that if caught on my board again it would be confiscated and destroyed or auctioned. Purely out of anti-authoritarian anarchism, I skated home... luckily I made it!
I've also been let off for skating on private property. I remember a large BP fuel cylinder being cut in half at the port where I was living and it was due to be shipped away. I jumped a high fence to get in and was caught carving this big steel half-pipe structure. The cop didn't mind so much. He just said keep off the roads, don't damage anything and - funniest of all - keep it quiet!
I have a similar story skating in an emptied concrete reservoir. It was a lot of fun with easy banks to get some serious air from. The cop said two things that stick in my memory - we *should* be wearing safety equipment because it was dangerous and also that we should leave before 4.30pm when the inspector was due to arrive!!
So - yes, some good and some bad. The reasonable ones tend to get respect while the ones who aren't get vitriol and for the majority of the time this works both ways for police and skaters.
and303Jul 12, 2010
Oddly enough all of the conspiracy theorists and privacy junkies I know are all skateboarders.
larfusJul 12, 2010
Here go ahead and finger print my middle finger.
superkendallJul 12, 2010
So it costs $80k for a person to monitor it, and $90k to build the security system instead. But they don't have the money for a monitor...
firewall1Jul 12, 2010
I decided to lurk in here for this exact comment. There's always 1 completely clueless fool.
90K over ten years (lifetime of the security system) = 9k per year
80k per year over 10 years (to match the security sys) = 800k per year.
Is that easy enough for you, or should I sketch the answer?
bjornskiJul 12, 2010
Skater-tarians never were good with math.
iwashere2Jul 12, 2010
1984
noyb1Jul 12, 2010
I would rather not to go the park then deal with that s**t.
joejitsuJul 12, 2010
The skaters too. They had a safe environment to skate in, but these rules are going to drive them underground. Skating in places they aren't supposed to.
menosdabearJul 12, 2010
from everything I've seen about this skate park, they didnt have a safe environment. Thats why these steps were taken in the first place.
joejitsuJul 12, 2010
@MenosDaBear
Do you live in the area, or did you get that impression from the article?
crapolatimeJul 12, 2010
http://www.aclu.org/
Sign up and get your card to show the feds that don't care about your Rights.
nstern2Jul 12, 2010
I wonder if/when other parts of the city torn up by skaters they will realize what they did is stupid and change the rules slightly.
epersonJul 12, 2010
Most
Illiterate
Thread
Ever.
iamacyborgJul 12, 2010
I agree. Incomplete sentences, capitalizing words inappropriately, indiscriminate line breaks; it's enough to make the most stoic grammar Nazi break down in tears.
scabnabbitJul 12, 2010
This isn't the first to do this sort of thing:
http://boingboing.net/2006/09/01/walt-disney-world-fi.html
Not to mention you might not want the characters getting too close as they might have groinal fungus:
http://www.casttv.com/video/kxken/the-best-of-the-awful-truth-disney-groin-fungus-video
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marx2kJul 12, 2010
Disney World is a public park?
fishpunchJul 12, 2010
Actually a really good idea, I know most of you are screaming Big Brother and getting lame ass Banksy tattoos but you are probably the same people that cry where were the police when something bad happens.
Also the same people that cry about police brutality or rather thinly disguised self defense.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
"What is 'The Logic of an illogical malcontent?' Potent Potables for $300, Alex."
iamacyborgJul 12, 2010
The SAME PEOPLE want ALL THREE of these things?
1. Not to be treated as criminals without evidence
2. The police (which they are forced to pay for) to provide the service they're paid to provide
3. Not to be beaten or abused by the police
enantiodromiaJul 12, 2010
Cops who wish there were Marines + Cops who were actually Marines + Marines + Type A Law Enforcement Apologists = San Diego
teqmock5Jul 12, 2010
This is just going to make kids skateboard in the streets. Repairing every skatable public surface in the county must cost more than removing graffiti in a fenced arena.
joejitsuJul 12, 2010
I imagine some drug and vandalism occurred, but it was probably pot and minor vandalism. I bet the skaters kinda formed a community and looked down upon serious vandalism and hard drugs. Now the skaters are going to go elsewhere, and be more vulnerable to hard drug use, skating in public areas, and engage in more vandalism.
shawnmattcrawJul 12, 2010
lol
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
[what a useless reply]
shawnmattcrawJul 13, 2010
Lol
michdurbin3525Jul 12, 2010
They shoudl add sharks with laser beams attached to their head! :):))
crytekemployee3Jul 12, 2010
Who cares. The skateboarders of today are a bunch of whiny bitches. 90s skaters represent!
stevenbaker100Jul 12, 2010
Little too Big Brother for me personally
shingoexJul 12, 2010
Down on your knees
You'll be left behind
This is the beginning
Watch what you think
They can read your mind
This is the beginning
I got my mark, see it in my eyes
This is the beginning
Well my reflection I don't recognize
This is the beginning
We think we've climbed so high
Up all the backs we've condemned
We face no consequence
This is the beginning of the end
You wait your turn
You'll be last in line
This is the beginning
Get out the way
Cause I'm getting mine
This is the beginning
God helps the ones that can help themselves
This is the beginning
May be too late as far as I can tell
This is the beginning
We think we've come so far
On all our lies we depend
We see no consequence
This is the beginning of the end.
probergeJul 12, 2010
You will obey!!!!
menosdabearJul 12, 2010
Hey, dont be a dick and start fights/break in/ vandalize the place and..... you wont have crazy security steps put into place. The skaters brought this upon themselves.
travelsonicJul 12, 2010
Yes, 'cause its not like people will totally blow something out of proportion, and jump far farther than necessary to fix a problem that may not even be all that huge/difficult.
Right.
Yes, 'cause all skaters = the possible minority that vandalized, drug dealt, etc.
Right.
Yes, 'cause perpetuating a false "them ruining it for all" mentality, and locking the place up like a fortress is the only way to fix a problem like this.
Right.
/s
How naive can you be?
punkrockgeoffJul 12, 2010
California Uber Alles!