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executexAug 13, 2010
Imagine how much productivity and GDP boost the country would get if they simply fixed the highways and enlarged them in these 10 cities. People wouldn't be as tired or angry at work.
djnikadeemasAug 13, 2010
I pondered the exact same thing last night traveling on the 91 in Southern California as well as the 60 and the 10 freeways the days prior.
branditaAug 14, 2010
It would be better to improve mass transit rather than enlarge highways. Then we could increase productivity and reduce carbon emissions. We'd also give mobility options to those who can't drive (the elderly, youth, drunk people, people who can' t afford cars, etc.)
ljseinfeldAug 14, 2010
Unfortunately we're cursed by our (and our government's) lack of ability to do long range planning.
We build a highway that's good enough to properly flow traffic 75% of the time today, instead of making things that are better than they need to be right now with the idea that it will save money and frustration in the future. It will get worse if/when they privatize the highway system.
pistolfredAug 14, 2010
@LJSeinfeld: I'd say we're more cursed by our employers insisting that we work in the office at mostly the same time. Most cities have manageable traffic outside of commute hours. Most of my jobs have had so-called flex time but 9am and 5pm meetings are so common that there's not much flex left. I've never been allowed to telecommute either (except on days off :( ), though my work could often be easily done from home.
unterdenlindenAug 14, 2010
It's been shown that by increasing highway space, traffic increases. In fact, traffic usage increases by more than expected. This basically means that people will drive just for the heck of it as long as there isn't traffic. You can't just add more lanes to get rid of traffic.
I love this country.
pistolfredAug 14, 2010
It's extremely counter-intuitive but I've read about studies on this. I heard a researcher speak on this once, too. There are numerous examples in the US and Canada where traffic really just went back to the levels it was at within just a few months of the extra lanes or new freeways being completed.
pagalchuAug 14, 2010
ur in office for 8 hours doesn't mean ur being productive all 8 hours. if they fix all highways, ur just going to leave late for the work and enjoy more sleeping. ur job do not consider traffic hours and other personal problems ur going through. u need to get there on time, put in ur 8 hours and get the heck out of there.
simonjester666Aug 14, 2010
Yea we tried that in Atlanta, we are up to 15 lanes (according to wiki, the widest roadway anywhere in the Interstate Highway System) and it still comes to a dead stop, there is just no more room to expand without crushing buildings.
fadetooneAug 14, 2010
Pretty soon the highways for almost the entire quadrant of the county I live in (NE Tarrant, west side of DFW airport) will be under construction. In some areas they are tripling the number of lanes and adding "managed tollways" which I believe are the first in the nation. That concept involves inner highway lanes that are tolled and outer highway lanes that are not tolled. I'm not sure how well that will pay off, but it's an interesting concept.
simonjester666Aug 14, 2010
They are about to turn the ride share lane into a toll here in Atlanta (i think it will still be free to car pools)
skinny01Aug 14, 2010
They keep making them wider, they need to stack them into multi levels.
demondiggerAug 13, 2010
D.C. is number 2, I believe it!
hivoltage815Aug 14, 2010
It doesn't help that some people are commuting as far as Delaware! Even with the metro system, the city wasn't designed for so many people coming from so far away.
mikeasAug 14, 2010
DC is fine. It's all the surrounding areas that had lightning fast growth without proper planning...
hivoltage815Aug 14, 2010
DC itself is just a system of surface streets anyways. Obviously it is what it is. I was clearly referencing the metro area as a whole.
mustachemurderAug 14, 2010
Going into D.C. Via 295 is the worst.
xiamgambitxAug 14, 2010
LA being number 1 makes A LOT of sence. The 405 and the 5 out here is horrible.
chrisinsocalifAug 14, 2010
I live in southern California, when it takes almost 2 hours to go 15 miles...then traffic is a major problem. Sucks when you work somewhere and it ends up being a 12 hour work day to factor in the hour or more it takes to get to work each way when its only one city away.
kanockAug 14, 2010
Get a bike.
pistolfredAug 14, 2010
@Kanock. 15 miles is a long commute by bike. In LA that would be pretty hot, too. I had a 17 mile bike commute for a few years in California. It was a long-ass commute. I'm an avid cyclist so I could do it but many couldn't or wouldn't.
As a cyclist, I was required to use only surface streets which, in that case, made the trip about 3 miles longer than by car (14 miles). A big part of this was this huge loop I could have avoided had I been allowed to use a 200-yard stretch of road that was labeled a freeway only at that spot (crossing an actual freeway). I did actually use that section a few times when I was late for work. Huge shoulders with only one exit and no entrances. It was very safe. I also knew 2 others that did that sometimes. Both got tickets.
ahsandilshadAug 14, 2010
traffic is very harsh problem for every country
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
surprised , developed country also have problem :(
CSA4everAug 14, 2010
I dugg you up because you are simply making an honest and polite observation. And you are certainly correct too.
badserverAug 14, 2010
2.3 billion gallons of fuel is a lot :/
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
terrible
partrowAug 14, 2010
Another "top 10" list, so buried.
panteradactylAug 14, 2010
How the f**k is Austin not on this list??? Seriously, you other Austinites need to chime in and back me up here.
panteradactylAug 14, 2010
Wow, why the hell am I being buried? I'm not making this stuff up.
darushkiiAug 14, 2010
the author of this article has clearly never been to NYC...
citrxjAug 14, 2010
I'd have to agree... NYC is pretty backed up too.
feeishAug 14, 2010
NYC actually isn't that bed they have good traffic enforcement and they do keep it moving.
xwatermelonAug 14, 2010
too bad that isn't true...
camilos007Aug 14, 2010
Why is there no public transportation in these cities? Is it considered a "socialist and evil" thing? Nothing beats reading a good book while riding on a bus.
reddikilowattAug 14, 2010
Buses are for everyone else. DC has a very big bus fleet, and a metro line that runs the whole way out to Fredrick, MD. But getting people who live there to ride them is a whole other matter. You can't expect the movers and shakers of the world to TAKE THE BUS?!?!?! Are you daft, man?
jman5Aug 14, 2010
I can't speak for buses, but a lot of people take the metro into DC. I think the biggest problem for public transport is that metro stations are usually too far from people's houses. The only alternative is to drive and park your car at the metro station, but then you are paying for both parking and metro fee every day.
I don't see an easy and convenient solution to connecting suburbs with mass transport.
reddikilowattAug 14, 2010
Jman5
I didn't know that you have to pay for both the park-n-ride lot and the train ticket. What a scam!
CSA4everAug 14, 2010
Reading a book or napping on mass transit can be the most pleasant part of the day. I really think, besides the slight additional inconvenience of mass transit, most white Americans really do not want to be in close contact with blacks. There is a perception, which I have my own views on, that blacks can be a bit noisier and can take up more seat space than other passengers. Plus many whites are simply afraid they will be hassled or robbed. Their fears may be exaggerated, but I believe they are a significant deterrent to mass transit in this country.
ssomu007Aug 14, 2010
Green Energy. In harmony with nature lose from that city. Dirty!
partrowAug 14, 2010
huh ?
jman5Aug 14, 2010
ESL classes are down the hall.
slapdedAug 14, 2010
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bracomadarAug 14, 2010
They should get this guy to design their city...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJQTc-TqpU
kanockAug 14, 2010
I just knew it was gonna be this video.
branditaAug 14, 2010
Building more roads does not usually reduce the amount of traffic. See the law of triple convergence:
http://www.walkablestreets.com/triple.htm
It is better to build public mass transit and increase mobility options.
loudmusicAug 14, 2010
I was honestly expecting that to be an interesting article, but all it said was, a growing population will continue to outgrow the previous optimum roads.
reddikilowattAug 14, 2010
Traffic is like the weather... everyone talks about it but no one does anything about it.
pagalchuAug 14, 2010
i do everything i can to avoid it. tried different route and timing, but its same everywhere. u basically have no option if ur live in big metro area.
zombie2472Aug 14, 2010
how did boston not make it on to that list?
pagalchuAug 14, 2010
because u never been outside of Boston.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
having lived in both Atlanta and Philadelphia, I find it laughable that ATL made the list, but New York and Philly are absent. I would sit on 285 and listen to people bitch about the traffic while it was moving at 20 miles an hour, and think back to times sitting on the Schuylkill crawlway or Rt. 1 and putting my car in park because we sat in one place for that long.
Southerners love to bitch about Atlanta traffic because they have apparently never been anywhere that has actual traffic.
justinjohnsonAug 14, 2010
Yes!!! Thank you for saying this. I just moved to ATL from Chicago, which isn't even on the list and traffic here is not that bad. If they would implement a halfway-decent public transportation system, that went out into the suburbs (think Metra) they could cut their traffic congestion immensely. Lucky me I live in the city and work in the suburbs.
tiduAug 14, 2010
Ah, the Sure Kill Expressway? ;)
youseinaviAug 14, 2010
Philly really isn't too bad, it gets jammed but it usually keeps moving, even if it's stop-and-go at a mile an hour. I honestly missed it when I moved to the DC area. The DC beltway is a freaking parking lot many times during the day, rush hour goes from 6 am to 7 pm, with a lull around lunchtime. There's been a lot of times I just shut the damn car off until we started moving again. I'm guessing New York didn't make the list because they included all of the city, not just Manhattan. I don't think the other boroughs have traffic as nasty at Manhattan.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
Oh I agree that DC is WAY worse than Philly. But to act like Atlanta is worse than Philly is just ridiculous. The only reason I mentioned Philly was to give an example backed by personal experience to illustrate why A-town does NOT belong on this list.
fyberopticAug 14, 2010
Here in TN, right along the border with VA, it's a common in-joke that whenever you see a bad driver, it'll be a Virginian. And I swear to you, the majority of the time, you will in fact see a VA tag on a car who cuts in front of you, speeds past you, or does some other ridiculous s**t. I don't know why this is, especially when the traffic cops seem more strict in VA, and will hide in all kinds of sneaky places to catch speeders/bad drivers. Hell, there's even signs to warn you that the speed limit is being enforced by helicopter. It's like as soon as those folks cross the border, they think it's an amusement park down here in TN. Worse yet, VA doesn't require car insurance like they do here.
shifty2Aug 14, 2010
VA does require car insurance, so VA drivers tend to be more aggressive when driving because they know if they mess up and wreck, insurance takes care of it. I drove around (illegally) for several months with no insurance when I was out of work and needed to get around to do job interviews, and let me tell you, I drive VERY carefully.
thesabreAug 14, 2010
That's the joke EVERYWHERE. Anytime you see a bad driver, it's never you... it's always the non-local. If you don't live near a state border, it's the next city over. Everyone except you sucks at driving.
And VA does require car insurance; not sure where you pulled that from.
drunkenkiteAug 14, 2010
F**K I-4
fuzzynyankoAug 14, 2010
I'm surprised that New York City didn't make the list
shnarfAug 14, 2010
This list is is total crap. To not have chicago, Boston? Those places are living hell. Cars do not move. I can say first hand that their number 6 city Dallas is slightly better traffic than chicago having lied in both places. These list things are just lazy writing.
skinny01Aug 14, 2010
Where's chicago?
muffinmonkAug 15, 2010
It's not terrible traffic. Even in rush hours it takes at least an extra 5 minutes.
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loudmusicAug 14, 2010
California is so screwed up. But they're working on it!
http://digg.com/search?s=high+speed+trains&sort=digg
Maybe someday we'll actually see those high speed trains tearing up the coast from San Diego to Vancouver BC. Unfortunately none of that corrects local congestion issues. We've got great trains in Portland. The MAX (our commuter trains) claims to alleviate over 200,000 car trips per day. I just wish they'd bring it across the river into Washington.
youseinaviAug 14, 2010
Philly really isn't too bad, it gets jammed but it usually keeps moving, even if it's stop-and-go at a mile an hour. I honestly missed it when I moved to the DC area. The DC beltway is a freaking parking lot many times during the day, rush hour goes from 6 am to 7 pm, with a lull around lunchtime. There's been a lot of times I just shut the damn car off until we started moving again. I'm guessing New York didn't make the list because they included all of the city, not just Manhattan. I don't think the other boroughs have traffic as nasty at Manhattan.
neelshivAug 14, 2010
Is it odd that I kind of cheered when I saw my hometown, Atlanta, on the list?
I think it's because I know how bad it is, and I wanted other people to know too. Nobody wants to suffer unnoticed.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
I've sat through Atlanta afternoon rush hour traffic. Believe me, I know.
dondada619Aug 14, 2010
The picture is for San Diego is actually the Mexico side of the Tijuana border crossing.
muffinmonkAug 15, 2010
Speaking of border crossing... in El Paso to Juarez, there is no traffic going south, but when going from Juarez to El Paso, holy s**t. It took a trip from 6am and finally passed through at 9am. And it was only just crossing the Rio Grande, which pretty much doesn't exist anymore.
audiophile214Aug 14, 2010
Houston traffic in the middle of summer is hell
fyberopticAug 14, 2010
To both shifty2 and TheSabre, by "VA doesn't require insurance" I mean that the requirement can be avoided by paying a fee. TN has no option like that.
Closed AccountAug 14, 2010
is that a guy with a f**king food stand set up in the middle of the road in the San Diego pic? goddamn, you KNOW traffic is bad when people start to set up food stands in the middle of the interstate.
evilgrouseAug 14, 2010
Bulls**t. Why isn't Boston on the list?? Especially with the big dig still going, you can't FIND anything. let alone drive there in a timely manner. So glad I moved 3000 miles away from that hell.
sniper117Aug 14, 2010
Why does the apparent worst city have the picture with the least amount of traffic.
citizensnippsAug 14, 2010
#1 Mumbai, India
tech10171968Aug 15, 2010
I-95 between Richmond, VA and Boston, Ma is a clusterf**k when it comes to traffic congestion.
caeser5786Aug 15, 2010
11. Cincinnati I275-75 area...constant construction, horrible traffic, always a wreck of some sort in the same spots
thibedeauxmarxyAug 16, 2010
You're full of s**t. I've spent many a day at an extended dead stop on 285 in both the morning and evening rush, as well as plenty of time trying alternate routes. Average commute time from Alpharetta to Stone Mountain was about an hour and a half, each way. I've also spent plenty of nights (around 2 AM) inexplicably stopped on 400 or 285, due to construction projects.
I completely agree that Philly and NY deserve to be on the list. But if you actually got to go 20 mph on 285 during rush hour, I'm jealous. If you live outside the city (which I no longer do), your ass is gonna be stuck in random traffic in any direction, at any time of day or night.
gofyrslfAug 16, 2010
Based on the picture, it doesn't look so bad here in LA. Also, gotta love the angle on that SF pic. Makes it look like they're all just parked trying to get up the hill.