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novenatorJul 30, 2010
Awesomely created infographic with some great detail.
This is something everyone should experience once in their lifetime, probably the best large scale artistic festival on the planet. The Burning Man and Temple constructions last year were organic constructs, very original.
pharmaphoxJul 30, 2010
*puke*
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
My British-Jamaican computer nerd stepdad has tickets for Burning Man this year.
Now, he's about as big of a nerd as it gets, with slightly more developed social skills, but he doesn't have much experience in the way of... Chaos.
He's going to get eaten alive.
cptbuckJul 30, 2010
Uh, if he's not interested in dropping acid and having casual sex with furries, why go?
novenatorJul 31, 2010
Nerds are actually pretty good there. It's a very open environment, and you can just sort of do what you want. Tell him to bring a costume (makes sure it has goggles for the dust storms).Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shadowspawnJul 30, 2010
Y'know, I really don't care.
rhustangJul 30, 2010
then why comment?
insightfulJul 30, 2010
Readable size:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xmasons/4841339241/sizes/o/in/photostream/
And I had to look up what a Kumbh Mela is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbh_Mela
kwanijmlJul 30, 2010
Me too. . . I had seen pictures of Kumbh Mela but never knew what it was called. . . .I looked it up for the same reason and found that it is/has been the largest gathering of human beings, ever. Up to 60 million people. Blows one's mind.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Er, a demographics graphic without breakdown by race/ethnicity? (but including income). Not that I don't have a pretty good idea what the breakdown is.
gilgamesh23Jul 30, 2010
From the artist/creator/whatever...
"I too would love those data points as well. Accurate census information for BRC has been challenging to come by, in particular the demographics regarding race"
That very question is further down in the comments.
revenger543Jul 31, 2010
It's 20-f**king-10. The human race should be color-blind by now.
esb82Jul 30, 2010
Bragging rights for attending BM officially ended in the mid-90s.
What really began on that beach was a dream to start a limited liability company that could convince people to pay $300 per person to travel across the country where they would mill around, unwashed, in the Nevada desert during the late summer's scorching heat.
Don't innovate. Don't create. Don't attract your own community of freaks.
Be a follower. Be a consumer. Help a company profit.
clonedJul 31, 2010
I've always wanted to go to Burning Man, and after researching it last week, it really looks like just some corporate sponsored county fair. I talked to someone who used to go back when it was just a large group of people going out into the middle of the desert, and he said it's no where near the same as it once was.
gradient01Jul 31, 2010
Cynical much?
esb82Jul 31, 2010
You have no idea. Diogenes of Sinope is a personal hero of mine.
gradient01Jul 31, 2010
You're right, I don't. I don't even know who/what a "Diogenes of Sinope" is and I'm sure that's what you were hoping for. Really man, I know you're the kind of guy who's been there, done that, and is over it because (insert some righteous reason here that makes you look superior), but it's really just cynicism and vanity.
You should go to BM sans your expectations ... I'm not sure why you would expect anything to stay the same over a 10 year period, but nothing does. Nothing. You aren't the same as you were in the 90's either ...
esb82Jul 31, 2010
You presume to know a lot about my hopes and expectations when I've said nothing about either of them.
First, Wikipedia is your friend. More than that, it's one of the greatest informational resources we've created, and one of my few hopes is that you're able to use it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
Second, my only expectation of BM is a lot of expense and a lot of heat, neither of which I need, especially to add to the profits of Black Rock City, LLC.
I don't expect anything to stay the same (look up Herac**tus while you're on Wikipedia), but the fact is, BM is hardly the fringe-fest it once was. I mean, if everyone's talking about Fight Club, from infographers to the office's water-cooler gossip group, then it just ain't Fight Club anymore. Cloned (above) has the right idea. BM is just a step or two away from becoming a seasonal theme park.
To quote Terence McKenna, stop consuming your culture. Start creating. Take center stage. Grow a f**king personality. You can't spend your way to one. Almost everyone, it seems, wants to define himself through his consumption choices. Clothing, cars, smartphones, concerts, festivals. Even outside the mainstream, in fact this is what kills countercultures that once stood for something. That only makes you a follower, a sheep for corporations to fleece. Find your own community, your own tribe, instead of paying some company to do it for you. Write, create music, create art, dance, sing, cook, hack, trip balls and uncover cosmic mysteries, but express yourself. Show your independence and make us believe it, until we rejoice in awe or weep in envy. Create or die!
gradient01Jul 31, 2010
So, have you ever been to BM? Tell the truth ...
esb82Jul 31, 2010
No, I haven't. Why? Are you going to tell me my dismissal is baseless? Have you mistaken what I've written on Burning Man for a critique of what happens there? If so, you missed the point.
My problem with it -- besides the facts that it's hotter than hell, far from where I live, extremely inconvenient to get to and prepare for, and in general strikes me as more work than pleasure (and I even enjoy camping and most outdoor activities), with a $300 price-tag as a cherry on top -- is that I don't pay corporations to organize my fun for me. But if you do, then go for it. The world was made for people like you.
Oh, and you might want to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_man#Criticism
And all the rules, regulations, safety info, and other caveats linked from here: http://www.burningman.com/preparation/event_survival/
(Not exactly unfettered fun on a beach anymore, is it?)
I'm sure anyone who has been there, even in recent years, can regale me with tales of the crazy s**t they've witnessed. I've seen enough pics and videos to believe it. And I'm sure you can tell me about all the nifty s**t you can do with Apple products, too, but I enjoy building my own PC. Hell, I have infinitely more respect for the guys who hack their TI graphing calx into mp3 players than I do for the white-earbud drones. (Those iPod commercials say it all: you're just a product attached to a nameless, faceless, anonymous silhouette.)
Look, if you go to BM, at least bring some art or a mutant vehicle. Network with some fellow freaks and try to set up another event, with its own brand of craziness, closer to home. Just don't depend on companies to mold your behavior to their agenda, take charge of your own experiences, and organize your life so that it boldly broadcasts your individuality.
cheezinternAug 5, 2010
It's unfortunate, but you can bet there will be some other festival to come along. It'll be cool and underground for a couple years before corporatizing.
evange106Jul 30, 2010
6% have no gender.
spazzmckiwiJul 31, 2010
More likely:
"6% have a gender more complex than simply 'male' or 'female'"
bull985Jul 30, 2010
Burning Man is on my list of things to do before I die.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
meh, I'd rather see Zozobra
theluceJul 30, 2010
Zozobra rocks bro, born and raised in Sfe. We used to roll out early with a bucket of chicken and some blankets!
Thanks for the memories!
gernblanstedJul 31, 2010
I've been to Zozobra and Burning Man. Now, Zozobra is fine and all, but the only thing it has in common with Burning Man is people watching an effigy burn. When you go to Zozobra, you watch the show, then go home. There is so much going on a Burning Man, it would be impossible to ever experience more than the tiniest fraction of what's happening there.
Burning Man is a mind gorging multifaceted feast. Zozobra is a communion wafer. There's very little crossover on almost any level.
mrdougJul 30, 2010
I love a good Infographic...
cptbuckJul 30, 2010
No, this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-10/burning-man-rabbits.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mccullagh.org/photo/1ds-10/burning-man-rabbits&usg=__9VkIogGZlsSc4lGZU5rXZh959LE=&h=512&w=768&sz=186&hl=en&start=0&sig2=L29-gd43dhvQROLZ-i047Q&tbnid=ylN8jUYlX4eufM:&tbnh=148&tbnw=191&ei=jmNTTNWfJsOC8gbZu_T8Ag&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dburning%2Bman%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1680%26bih%3D864%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=419&page=1&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=62&ty=45
is burning man, and it's still gross and weird. Notice how many participants are between 40 and 60. No one wants to spend time in the desert with drugged out boomers except for other drugged out boomers.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
Your numbers are wrong. Boomers were teenagers in the 60s, the useless as s**t Woodstock generation. Their span is more like 50-70 years olds. I am 43, and Gen X (hence my deep-seated resentment of boomers).Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cptbuckJul 31, 2010
thats irrelevant to the point I was making, but accepted.
Once you hit 40, you should not be going to the desert to get naked and do drugs. That kind of thing is pretty much only acceptable for Gary Busey and Jim Morrison. And, let's be honest, it might be acceptable for that kind of guy, but no one should want to *be* that kind of guy.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
Agreed.
novenatorJul 31, 2010
So you think the people in that pic are over 40 eh buck?
cptbuckJul 31, 2010
That dude on the left might be. Besides, furries are f**king weird at any age. If that's a party you want to be part of, be my guest.
I was talking about the data on the infographic. A solid third of the participants are over 40.
novenatorJul 31, 2010
Oh, gotcha. My mistake. I guess I hung out with the younger crowd a bit more there.
gernblanstedJul 31, 2010
Yes, that is Burning Man. And so is this:
http://pic.templetons.com/cgi-bin/imget?f=brad/pano/midpano/temple.jpg
And this:
http://pic.templetons.com/cgi-bin/imget?f=brad/pano/burning/conf22raw.jpg
Now, the pictures I point to have more than 8 people in them. I'd say, at least two dozen. How many furries can you count in those pictures?
Burning Man has a lot going on. If you choose one or two pictures and say that's what Burning Man is, then you probably are missing something.
cptbuckJul 31, 2010
You're right. In the first picture instead of furries I see a f**kload of old nudists and way more banana hammocks than I ever want to see in person. Not much of an improvement.
The second picture; fine. But when I want to see explosions, I choose the fourth of July. No need to go to a desert with said furries, nudists, and banana hammockers.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
suprdaveJul 31, 2010
@CptBuck
I bet you're a blast at parties huh?
cptbuckJul 31, 2010
so suprdave, your parties involve cosplay, elderly nudism, and banana hammocks? Yeah. I wouldn't be fun at your parties.
elchispitoJul 30, 2010
What the hell does that writeup mean? The history of something has survived, nay, mutated?
What?
atomicknotJul 31, 2010
On another note.....maybe a different note.....and possibly a more reasonable note.......try the Oregon Country Fair. Second weekend every July. It's not the size of the vessel, it's the motion of the ocean.......or so I'm told. Whatever you do.......don't start checking into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocm0dTAuI7gComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
somejunkJul 31, 2010
I feel that this infographic left out the most important thing at Burning Man: the boobies.
halsmypalJul 31, 2010
here is a panorama
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2688780.jpg
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
.....what.......what is that?
It looks like a man sitting down with a boner...and a headless women on his legs.
...ok. I'd go there.
dvazgirdJul 31, 2010
I really want to go to Burning Man soon. Hoping for next year. Someone told me that you can just trade things for other things. No I don;t mean sex when I ask this but was wondering if I could just walk around with a guitar and sing songs and get tabs of acid in exchange. That s**t would awesome if true.
drmobutuJul 31, 2010
You got it backwards...bring the acid, and people will sing for you...
illinestJul 31, 2010
waste of time and money
spoonyforkJul 31, 2010
I wish you could stay on the playa forever too.
suprdaveJul 31, 2010
I bet you're a blast at parties huh?
zb757Jul 31, 2010
Buried for flickr being stupid and not letting me view it withe the Digg Bar
kwijybo72Jul 31, 2010
What is it boy???
Fire?
Flood?
Hippies?
lamechJul 31, 2010
I for one found there use of the word 'embiggen' to be perfectly cromulent.
dreadbuttJul 31, 2010
Embiggen is my new favorite word.