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heliumflashAug 15, 2010
Quote:
In a statement, the Family Research Council said the study confirms what the group has long advocated about the negative consequences of casual sex.
But the council said it "would not interpret less severe educational impacts on students involved in `committed' sexual relationships as a green light for comprehensive" sex education.
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Some people refuse to get over their outdated and restrictive ways.
bartledooAug 16, 2010
Unless their position is that sex is necessarily detrimental to grades, then this study is hardly a valid reason for them to change their position.
3nder99Aug 16, 2010
How dare we allow children to discover the depraved sexuality they all harbor. Better we beat it back with a stick until they reach college and f**k everything in sight because you puritanical idiots made sex a taboo subject when we should have historically learned about it on a farm at about 8 or 9 years old.
I am so over proper society. On almost every single count they get things totally wrong.
heliumflashAug 16, 2010
Because I'm high, I totally thought that you were serious in the first paragraph. Your second paragraph really through me off there. Took me a while to realize that you were joking.
I agree with what you said also.
jason210Aug 16, 2010
This is a correlation not a causation. What the study truly shows is that emotionally balanced teens are more likely to only have sex in a committed relationship and those same teens tend to perform better in school. Not really all that surprising.
suricouAug 16, 2010
The FRC's position on teen sex isn't based upon the impact on academic performance, but upon religious beliefs. So there is no reason this should impact them.
thelastcivilianAug 15, 2010
Especially if it's with your teacher.
rmkrmkrmkAug 16, 2010
wocka wocka wocka!
http://vimeo.com/fozziebear
dudefaceguymanAug 16, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZdPeaH22d4
Heh.
pizzaman99Aug 16, 2010
I probably would have done better is school if I had actually got some, instead of obsessing about it all the time, and failing.
mapekzAug 16, 2010
The social anxieties of not being in a relationship, having no game, or straight up being a virgin far outweigh the supposed "benefits" of focusing solely on academics and your career.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
Same here.
I hated high school, and only part of it was because a small but immensely irritating portion of the schoolwork was a retarded bulls**t waste of my time; what really did me in was my epic failure at the whole social aspect, which I became not necessarily better at, but a good deal more comfortable with once I started getting laid.
anothersoldierAug 16, 2010
by the sounds of it, you didn't start getting laid.
lennybirdAug 16, 2010
Or you could be like me, and never have the opportunity to have those desires since you were home schooled...
Thank you, internet.
sinisterslothAug 16, 2010
is it mean to digg you up for this?
emmidiggerAug 16, 2010
What a crock this article is. As if it's OK for teens to be having sex. Those of you making comments about this somehow being OK are not parents and are probably teens yourselves (or have minds of teens).Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thelastcivilianAug 16, 2010
/s
Fixed it for you.
stavrogin2Aug 16, 2010
Your teens are probably having sex. They're just not telling you.
y0tsuyaAug 16, 2010
On the other hand, I don't tell my kids about how their mom and I get it on either.
rotundoAug 16, 2010
So you're basically saying "I don't care what research, facts, and truth you show me -- I FEEL like it must be bad, so it must be bad".
I don't question your good intentions, but I sure hope your kids grow up to be more rational than you.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
It's true, you just can't sell abstinence. Ask the American school system, they've tried.
Any healthy person, especially if they're male, is going to jump at the first chance they get to have sex, it's just basic instinct.
ausjpAug 16, 2010
Teens are having sex, whether you like it or not, and your appeals to emotion say more about your position than they do about those you're denigrating. Abstinence is your decision and nobody will impinge on that, but don't kid yourself into thinking teaching abstinence is an effective approach to stopping teens having sex. We don't hate our sexuality or our sexual urges (and never have), so I see no reason why you should impose your prudishness onto others.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
It's true, you just can't sell abstinence, no matter how badly some people wish they could. Ask the American school system, they've tried.
Any healthy person, especially if they're male, is going to jump at the first chance they get to have sex, it's just basic instinct.
dirtyfriesAug 16, 2010
Look, few parents WANT their kid having sex. A wise parent will realize the kid might be, will educate them about it, show them safety methods, and hope the kid will make wise decisions based on their own situation. No ones saying it's ok, they're just saying it doesn't have the impact they thought it did.
BTW, calling people teens doesn't validate your argument. Your problem seems to be a 1950s idealism that simple isn't real.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
I dugg your comment. I was sensible based on experience I had in school (I'm 40). I actually did NOT have sex 'till well....let's just say I was out of high school.
My mother was a nurse and all of us were given education. We were ALSO told that sex can complicate things when you're young.
I can't get on board with the "they are going to do it regardless" argument. It's a bad idea...it just is, when teenagers. Some will, hopefully some won't. Education's important, but I also think it's important to tell your kid that they should never lose it to someone "just because everyone else is."
ausjpAug 16, 2010
"It's a bad idea...it just is" is not a rational argument - it's an emotional one, and a poor one at that.
rain12913Aug 16, 2010
Can you explain to us why "it's a bad idea...it just is" for a pair of responsible teenagers to have sex? If they're in a committed relationship, are using a proven method of birth control then where does the badness come in?
You sound like somebody who was sexually frustrated as a teenager and is taking that frustrating out on other people.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Yeah....oh teens having sex is a great idea and if I don't think so....it's obviously because I'm sexually frustrated.....
"responsible teenagers" ????? Really? Have fun changing the diapers of the grandkids you got from the kids who had never been out in the real world before they boinked irresponsibly...because ANYONE who knows a teen....knows they don't tend to be really responsible.
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rain12913Aug 16, 2010
I kind of figured you wouldn't respond to my question with any sort of rational answer. Yes, there are MANY responsible teenagers. I'm not talking about thirteen and fourteen year olds; I'm talking about older teenagers who are in their third or fourth year of high school. Many of these kids have been employed for years and are about to go off to college. I've met teenagers of this age who are more mature than some 30-year-olds I know. Just what "real world" are you talking about where people learn to "boink responsibly"? Is it college? Right...that's a good one.
Face it: you were not acquainted with responsible and safe sexual activity during your teenage years and you're denying that it exists despite the insistence of others that it does. I started having sex at age 16 (like the average American does, according to the statistics) and I've never had unprotected sex in my life.
leftamiAug 16, 2010
"We were ALSO told that sex can complicate things when you're young." Doesn't really change all that much as you get older. How many of use have met and bedded someone, whom then turned into a raving psychotic?
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Everyone seems to forget that the concept of adolescence is a relatively recent, modern Western invention. For the vast majority of human history, those who we would call 'teens' and continue to treat as children would be at the beginning of adulthood. In spite of our infantilizing culture, many teens still manage to pick up responsibility, which they would have almost certainly learned by experience in any culture where they were allowed to begin learning adulthood by participating in it.
somnambulatorAug 16, 2010
I'm 43 my wife 42, we met when we were 17 & 16. We had our first kid at 28 and 27 respectively. We were responsible teens because we didn't want kids then.
Our kids are turning out to be early starters too, but then we've been teaching them about sex, love and reproduction for as long as they could understand it.
Our son has caused us plenty of problems with parents of 'innocent' local girls, but he has always taken responsibility for his own contraception.
Kids think about sex, talk about sex, want to have sex and have sex. It's OK just educate them first.
rain12913Aug 16, 2010
The average age of first sexual encounter for Americans is between 16 and 17. Sex during high school is completely normal. Honestly, I would be more worried if my teens weren't having sex (or interested in having sex) during their last two years of high school.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
Really? You want your teen pregnant?
rain12913Aug 16, 2010
Are you serious? My child will have received extensive education in all the various birth control methods well before he/she ever reaches that age. I started sex ed in the 8th grade, and my parents (my Mom being a pediatrician) were always extremely open about it as well. For this reason, the possibility of not using birth control never even crossed my mind when I became sexually active. The only people I knew who became pregnant were the ones whose parents were just like this guy, parents who were terrified at the possibility of their children having sex and who told them unconditionally to avoid it.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
BUT and it's a big one....teens aren't known for their level headedness....
WE have an epidemic of teen pregnancies in this country because......teens are kind of stupid.
There's so much information available about how to prevent pregnancy....but it isn't working.
I started sex ed in 6th grade. Our school nurse took the girls and boys in groups of ten and showed a flimstrip (yes, I'm old)....and talked about it.
I think that's really a BETTER way to do sex ed.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
rain12913Aug 16, 2010
People in general aren't known for their level-headedness, not just teens. We have an epidemic of obesity, an epidemic of drug use, and an epidemic of poor decision-making in general. Does this mean that normal and responsible usage of food and drugs (or other risky things that some people can't handle) is impossible? No. Just because your kids will be afraid to let anyone know that they're having sex and will therefore be more likely to have unprotected sex doesn't mean my kids can't have healthy sex lives during their teenage years. Sex during your teens is a natural part of life and we need to stop pretending that it's not.
Also, you overestimate the quality of our nation's teen pregnancy prevention programs. Despite how intensive sex ed may be in schools, the fact remains that many parents approach the notion of their teen having sex in the same way that OP does, by telling their teens to have no sex under any conditions. Our society's unhealthy relationship with sex in general, but particularly amongst teens, is responsible for the teen pregnancy epidemic.
ausjpAug 16, 2010
"There's so much information available about how to prevent pregnancy....but it isn't working."
What do you propose then? Abstinence only programs, because they fair *so* much better, right?
analogkid01Aug 16, 2010
A couple of summers ago, while out playing paintball with my 16-year-old nephew and his friends, I gave him a box of condoms and a lecture. I said "It is absolutely none of my goddamn business what you're doing or with whom. It is entirely my business that you do it safely." It was funny, because I told him how my high school sweetheart and I didn't use condoms because we were too embarrassed to get them, and how we were supposed to be good little Christian kids anyway. He stopped me and said "Is this story going to end with you telling me you have a kid or something?"
(No, I don't.)
genericdiggerAug 16, 2010
Well this is great news!
omaeAug 16, 2010
If a hot chick offered me sex everytime i got an A in my class I would have cared about grades.
But C's get dregrees
dauntless1Aug 16, 2010
"But C's get dregrees"
Hilarious.
nofrickenwayAug 16, 2010
lol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dregrees&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
standard8mmAug 16, 2010
That would have been nice while I was in high school to get some more often. I would have gone from a 3.7 to a 4.0.
samurimasterAug 16, 2010
A 6.9
/someone had to
devramosAug 16, 2010
Great, my mediocre performance in high school is no longer my fault.
6502samAug 16, 2010
If I was getting it at that time, I wouldn't have spent my hours in class thinking of pussy and fantasizing about doing the hottie in front of me and I would have done MUCH better in school.
But nooooooooo, sex is EVIL and DIRTY! We can't have people who are sexually mature actually doing what they're meant to do.
It's interesting, but most of our problems are because we fight Nature on all levels.
I wish we in the US weren't such prudes.
omaeAug 16, 2010
Count the whale tails.
For those who don't know: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whale+tail
tiduAug 16, 2010
oh, High School...
bibliophageAug 16, 2010
Just because American morality is what it is doesn't mean you would have been doing that hottie.
powderedtoastyAug 16, 2010
If I remember one thing about being a teenager, it's that even if you are getting some you'll still be spending hours fantasizing about the hottie in front of you.
bibliophageAug 16, 2010
If there's one thing about being a male, it's that even if you are getting some you'll still be spending hours fantasizing about the hottie in front of you.
devnulldoodAug 16, 2010
If you were getting pussy, you would have been thinking about it just as much. I dont know why people think that getting some actually makes you think about it less.
I did crappy in school because I WAS getting some and it was still all I thought about.
I also have a son thats only 17 years younger than me. Hmm, maybe thats why they dont want teen agers screwing around.
gustomuchoAug 16, 2010
Where's pedo bear when you need it?
blackoculusAug 16, 2010
Nobody ever "needs" pedobear.
eaglerufioAug 16, 2010
Wait, you're telling me that sticking your penis inside a girl has nothing to do with your ability to study and memorize history or comprehend and analyze mathematics and science? Who would have guessed that two activities that have almost nothing in common aren't affected by one another?
Next you'll try to tell me that smoking a natural growing plant doesn't actually directly contribute to my desire to have sex with skanky bitches and shoot heroin.
anothersoldierAug 16, 2010
I just smoked a tobacco leaf, now please excuse me while I pop a cap in ths dealers ass and smoke his crack.
creationismlolAug 16, 2010
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tiduAug 16, 2010
too old
dauntless1Aug 16, 2010
Thirteen? I'm sure Pedobear has made a few exceptions before.
phylaxerAug 16, 2010
"A provocative new study has found that teens in committed relationships do no better or worse in school than those who don't have sex."
"Teens who have sex — whether it's a serious or casual relationship — were at higher risk of being truant and dropping out compared with teens who don't have sex."
The article seems to be confusing committed relationships with having sex. The results appear contradictory and don't support the headline as stated.
SergeTomikoAug 16, 2010
It's funny too because teen sex is very well studied.
one of the few predictors of future academic success after college and even IQ is the first age of intercourse.
Having sex at 15 pretty much guarantees a person a low station in life or instance.
It should be obvious why this is the case - limited impulse control makes the kind of delayed gratification necessary for advanced education and complex work impossible. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dauntless1Aug 16, 2010
Not sure why you're getting buried. Reality doesn't agree with what many people want to believe. Simply put, people reach sexual maturity BEFORE they reach rational or emotional maturity, yet a responsible sex life requires all three. It's easy to see, easy to understand, and has nothing to do with the "It's ok to do anything I want just because I want to do it" mentality of teenagers.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
It had precisely *nothing* to do with self-control in my case, and I know I'm not the only one.
kungfumantis239Aug 16, 2010
I lost mine before I was 15 and now I'm in the military, preparing to go to college to become a pilot. That's a pretty large jump there chief.
Closed AccountAug 16, 2010
I was 15 when I first had intercourse, and I am in my junior year of a physics degree, spend my summer doing quantum physics research, and got in to an R1 school on a full ride, expenses and all. I think that had more to do with whatever in my brain made me learn to read before 2, which I'm pretty sure didn't go away when my hymen did.
/coolstorybro
My point is that you're confusing correlation with causation. I imagine because of social, family, economic, and a host of other factors, people who are likely to end up in a lower standing in life ae also likely to have the opportunity to have sex at a younger age than those whose life circumstances gives them a better chance to do well. Sex certainly isn't the cause of their standing, however (well, maybe their parents' sexual choices, but not theirs).
SergeTomikoAug 16, 2010
j0itc0la:
Clearly, you're not being honest with us otherwise you would:
1) understand the proper way of interpreting statistics. I never said having sex causes anything. I simply said that that the earlier the age of intercourse, the lower the probability of high intelligence or academic success. I gave you one hypothesis for why this is, and one that seems fairly well supported. The earlier the age of intercourse also predicts other behavior attributes that can be problematic such as obesity or violent tendencies. There is clearly a relationship.
2) Not be so foolish as to give an anecdotal story as a means of refuting a hypothesis. Of course there are exceptions. That is not relevant however and does not impact the validity of statistics. Your story is cool as you say, but really doesn't prove anything.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountAug 17, 2010
Sounds like you're still the one misinterpreting statistics. The earlier age of intercourse is more likely a symptom than a cause of the low probability. Non-Asian minorities are more likely to do poorly in high school and not attend college than Asians and Caucasians, but does that mean that race, in and of itself, is the cause? No, it's mostly socio-economic status, which for many reasons is heavily correlated to race in the US. My story was just supposed to be descriptive of the difference between the two, and to be slightly more interesting than just being the 3*10^8th time someone said "correlation!=causation" on the intertubes. Why would sex itself be more damaging to intelligence than having a relationship sans sex? The relationship part takes up more time and drama than the sex ever could. The guarantee of which you speak is simply that most people who manage to engage in sex before a certain age are likely to already have a lower status and/or intelligence. I see no mechanism in which sex itself can cause a lower status and/or intelligence. Unprotected sex can, but there exist countries who manage to keep teenage pregnancy to a minimum, and they do that by admitting that teens have sex and putting the social stigma on unprotected sex rather than all teen sex. Stigmatizing all teen sex merely leads to sex happening anyway but without adequate preparation. http://www.sheu.org.uk/publications/eh/eh194jl.pdf
SergeTomikoAug 17, 2010
j0tc0la: I see, you are a liberal ideologue pretending to be a physicist, and particularly obsessed with how statistics contradict a fantasy you have created of the world.
This isn't the mid 1990s when the Bell Curve just came out. This issue has been studied to death, and when it comes to the inferior intellectual ability of NAMs, it is an indisputable fact.
The time for fantasies is over. Now is the time for reality. Actions have consequences. Natural selection is a dominant factor in the behavior of mammals as any dog breeder can tell you. Political Correctness is a cancer that infects the minds of the young who waste more time proving their compliance with such indoctrination than studying things that matter, like physics.
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Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
Are you really arguing that non-Asian minorities (way to hide your bigotry in an acronym that most people won't instantly recognize) are naturally inferior? I give up, you're not worth anyone's time.
Closed AccountAug 19, 2010
Just missed the edit comment deadline:
You 'just' joined Digg, yet you seem familiar with how it works (e.g. not screwing up the reply threading or making other common noob mistakes). Did you lose your account when the precious Digg 'Patriots' got b&?
aldangaAug 16, 2010
That's not contradictory at all. What it's saying is that those in committed relationships might have similar school performance as those who do not have sex, but, overall, teens who have sex are at a higher risk of being truant and dropping out of school.
phylaxerAug 16, 2010
Ok that makes sense. Thanks for explaining that. The phrase "whether it's a serious or casual relationship" was ambiguous to me.
bartledooAug 16, 2010
phylaxer, it's not contradictory. The teens who have casual sex bring up the average risk when combined in a group with those in committed relationships.
The first is comparing those who don't have sex with those having sex but in committed relationships.
The second is comparing those who don't have sex with those who do.
I'm guessing you are easily confused.
phylaxerAug 16, 2010
Yeah I retract my comment. Thanks.
lovewidescreenAug 16, 2010
Really? As a parent, my concern with any of my kids having sex while teenagers has jack s**t to do with their grades and more with thing like ... oh, I don't know ... venereal disease, unexpected pregnancy, things like that. How silly of me that I wasn't looking at their academics when it comes to sex. I guess I'm a bad parent.
/s
dreamvsps2Aug 16, 2010
Hi, I'm Chris Hansen with NBC dateline
digg1990Aug 16, 2010
It's "Dateline NBC"... lol.
daltonkuepkerAug 16, 2010
Hi, I'm NBC Dateline with Hansen Chris.
linearfluidAug 16, 2010
That's besides the point... Why don't you all just take a seat here.. Lemonade?
alienmushroomAug 16, 2010
It's not always good.
azwethinkweizmAug 16, 2010
It's hard to study Calculus when your girlfriend is just asking to get f**ked.
Trust me.
darkray16Aug 16, 2010
haha, in a committed serious relationship that's lasted for over 6 months, no one will be begging for sex...
Trust me.
caramba421Aug 16, 2010
You need to learn how to multitask.
crytekemployee3Aug 16, 2010
If she wears shorts, she wants it.
If she wears pants, she's pretending not to want it.
If she wears a skirt, she wants it now.
If she's on the softball team, you don't want to give it to her.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
I don't get the softball joke.
parrappaAug 16, 2010
They're lesbians.
anothersoldierAug 16, 2010
I'd probably still give it to her after you left the room.
idiggaponyAug 16, 2010
It's interesting to note that having sex as part of a committed relationship doesn't hurt grades, but having casual sex does hurt grades.
I guess it's because if you want to have casual sex, you have to call your friend with a fake ID, pick him up at his house, drive to the liquor store, pick up some vodka, bring it over to your other friend's party, get wasted, chat up different girls until you find one who's drunk enough that she might conceivably screw you, then somehow make her get up off of the couch and drag her across five blocks of quiet suburban streets to the football field, even though she keeps falling over and talking so loud that you think she's going to wake up everyone in the neighborhood and make them call the cops, and then you finally get her under the bleachers, but now she's all mad at you because of some drunken fantasy she's currently having about how you were checking out her best friend's ass, even though you weren't, and then finally she's willing to have sex but it's cold outside, so you have to sneak back to your house without waking up your parents, get some blankets, and go back to the bleachers, but now she's asleep, so you have to wake her up again...
That s**t can take a huge chunk out of your study time. In contrast, if you have a committed monogamous relationship, you can just call your girlfriend and arrange a quickie as a study break between studying for your biology and history finals.
themadmuleAug 16, 2010
You're thinking waaay too hard about this.
idiggaponyAug 17, 2010
Not as hard as I thought about it when I was in high school. I promise.
ethanleducAug 16, 2010
He makes a good point though. Chasing girls is hard work for most of us, but once you catch one you're money.
nyxerebosAug 16, 2010
"note that having sex as part of a committed relationship doesn't hurt grades"
correlation != causation, it could be that those who can't give enough of a crap to keep their studies up also can't give enough of a crap to keep a relationship going. It could be that sexual behavior and grades are linked to some other factor, like affluence.
Either way, if choosing a good sex life in high school vs grades, I'd take the 0.3 GPA knock in an instant.
rmkrmkrmkAug 16, 2010
Misleading Title - should be: "Teen Sex Never Bad for School Performance"
mizuhochanAug 16, 2010
To hell with teen's having sex. They should only have sex once I've had it.
So never.
pika2000Aug 16, 2010
So, who's conducting the studies? Pedobear?
sinisterslothAug 16, 2010
Post Hoc. People who are smarter have less casual sex because they are awkward. It's not the casual sex that makes you stupid, it's just being stupid that makes it easier to have casual sex.
zephyrprimeAug 16, 2010
There is a lot of truth in this post. Attracting the opposite sex is probably the only pursuit that is actually improved by being inebriated.
linearfluidAug 16, 2010
Actually it is not sex but the Video game Battletoads and its addicting play that have taken away from most teens study time and have attributed to poor school performances.
frepnogAug 16, 2010
no f**king body is playing goddamned battletoads these days.
gkiltzAug 16, 2010
Never a DUUUUUH! moment on this subject, EH?
aliwangwangbabaAug 16, 2010
I tried to explain this to my 12th grade English teacher, Mrs. Weingarten, but she denied me "private tutoring" and gave me a C anyway
zephyrprimeAug 16, 2010
Since when are teens in committed relationships?
stonedslackersAug 16, 2010
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hexrrAug 17, 2010
Teenagers who are involved in casual relationships do worse in school? That doesn't mean casual relationships cause poor school performance. Chances are it has to do with the person and the fact that if they're likely to fail in school, they're likely to be irresponsible in other ways. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.