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ckhhrryissJul 28, 2010
I'm going to use the Force to get even with all the bad waiters in the world... There! Sorry, great waiters, only Dark Side Force on the menu today!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
wizardmaster420Jul 29, 2010
i'm going to use my klingon nerve pinch and will all the star track nerds of the world
wizardmaster420Jul 30, 2010
how would a vulcano pinch someone
snaxieJul 29, 2010
I tried to use the force to make that slideshow a tolerable experience. Nothing but javascript errors and pop-ups on that site.
Why is making a simple image slideshow such a chore for people?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
grayf0xxxJul 29, 2010
Wow...
poopiewarriorJul 30, 2010
i get why most diggers are virgins now
darkaspitchJul 30, 2010
I'll f**kin'... I'll f**kin'.... I'll f**kin' take my f**kin' light saber and slap dem f**kin' waitiers right up side dey hedz....
I'll f**kin'... I'll f**kin'... I'll f**kin' sew dem waiters' ass' shut, and force feed that f**kin' food they be feedin' us!
I'll f**kin'... I'll f**kin'...Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
Jar Jar might have been tolerable if HD spoke like that.
charlie6969Jul 28, 2010
Most of them are right, in my experience. But, I have worked at a couple of breakfast buffets and I have never cooked powdered eggs. (In fact, I've never even seen powdered eggs in person before.)
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
I don't know why they always say that. It's the same for me, worked a couple of different restaurant and knew a few restaurant owners and no one used powdered eggs. I think it's something people working at companies using it likes to say to make them feel better!
singebkdrftJul 29, 2010
In college the scrambled eggs were powdered, but you could also order a fresh cooked eggs-- I used to get them over easy, until the county the college was in banned all "undercooked" eggs...
gunit99Jul 29, 2010
Yeah...I've used and seen used liquid eggs out of a big bag for breakfast buffets, but not powdered. Maybe they're thinking of prison or summer camp.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Egg farms often sell 10L bags of liquidated eggs to restaurants. These are usually supplemented by the eggs that are fine but the shells look funny and what-not. Its a good way to sell the eggs they can't carton, and they get enough buisness for this practise to be profittable.
Someone's buying them.
tehaeolusJul 29, 2010
I have only worked at one restaurant so I can't really speak for the industry, but we use powdered eggs if we know we will be serving over 80 people. And once you have seen both regular and powdered, you can always tell the difference. I would say it is a good 50/50 ratio of powdered to real/liquid.
batkinsJul 29, 2010
I would believe that a fair amount of breakfast buffets don't use fresh eggs. That's why they always taste like s**t. That's also why I never eat eggs if I'm at a breakfast buffet (unless they are in the form of omelettes being cooked in front of me).
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
At 99% of fast food places (and some regular lower-budged family restaurants) they use liquid eggs, since powdered eggs have kind of gone by the wayside. With liquid eggs you simply throw them on the skillet and the heat will make them fluff up, and boom, 'scrambled' eggs. Granted they are supposed to be 100% real eggs, but...
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I worked in a nursing home kitchen making scrambled eggs for 80 old folks, and we used standard liquid eggs from a carton (the same kind you'd get from a grocery store). I've never seen powdered eggs, though.
jetboyterpJul 29, 2010
I worked in restaurants as a server and bartender for 10 years...most of these aren't true in my experience. Sugar in the kids meals? Beef stock as veggie? One thing I know I never did was lie just to get an order over with. If I didn't know, I asked the chef. Of course, I can't vouch he didn't lie... The hot tea request as a pain in the neck is spot on tho, except for boiling the water (it usually comes out of the coffemaker spigot.
vogelshockJul 29, 2010
Ponderosa steak house, buddy.
smacksawJul 29, 2010
Those Breakfast Burritos at McDonald's have them, or you can buy their Big Breakfast. Not as bad as one would think, but they microwave them to cook them which makes them even worse. Edible, just not tasty.
Liquid eggs are great. I use them often. What's funny is if you order an egg-white omelette you're just getting liquid eggs without the colouring, but often a regular omellete is liquid eggs that have the yellow colouring - no matter what, you're getting an egg white omelette. Good to ask if they're freshly cracked eggs. That's become a bit of an advertising advantage here in Canada because people think they are getting ripped off by liquid and powdered eggs and want the real thing.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
monsterenergyJul 29, 2010
I worked in the cafeteria at my high school, about 1,600 students. I had to crack eggs everyday for breakfeast, no powdered or pre-liquid eggs around.
benjieguyJul 29, 2010
Yeah I used to crack all the eggs for this Buffet I worked at. It wasn't anything high class but cracking 700+ eggs a day wasn't unusual.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
what the dingus is a powdered egg
fr0stbyte124Jul 30, 2010
Dehydrated eggs. They're cheap and last forever. Add water and cook. A lot of people don't like what the process does to the flavor and texture, but I like them just fine.
afdlipsJul 30, 2010
dugg for dingus. for your health!
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
so thats how that get that buttery delicious texture in restaurants
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
In many places that use fresh eggs, they throw them in a big pot and blitz the s**t out of them with the stick blender, shells and s**t stuck on the outside included. This all gets passed through a sieve. Just think about that the next time you eat at a place that does freshly cracked eggs.
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Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
I kind of doubt the powdered egg thing because fresh eggs are still hella cheap.
superkendallJul 30, 2010
Liquid eggs are the new powdered eggs. They are supposed to be the same... but we can tell. No thanks. Real eggs or I'm skipping.
charlie6969Jul 30, 2010
Go to Courtyard by Marriott breakfast buffet. They have the liquid scrambled eggs, but they also have eggs to order, from the shell. :)
(Man, I gained weight when I worked at that place.lol)
stignordasJul 28, 2010
Serving decaf instead of regular should be criminalized! There's a coffee shop here in Oakland that does that, even early in the morning. I stopped going there.
rpatrick819Jul 29, 2010
If someone served me decaf I would go Chris Farley on them.
absurdparadoxJul 29, 2010
You would put them in a van down by a river so they could get back on track?
eaziiJul 29, 2010
I think he would go all Chip 'n' Dales on them
opiticaJul 30, 2010
colombian decafinated coffee crystals people. look it up but not on youtube because NBC are ****
hyperbolebluesJul 29, 2010
I do it all the time! You won't know until it's too late! Get the f**k out of the restaurant it's late! Mwuahahahahahahahaaa!!
akzaitJul 29, 2010
Yeah, if you came in an hour before closing and were rude you got decaf. But if you came in and were apologetic about it I would make sure you got the attention you deserved. It's all in the attitude.
densetsu23Jul 29, 2010
That has to be false advertising or something. What the hell is the point of coffee if it's decaf?
If a bar started serving non-alcoholic beer after 8pm because "we don't want to tap two kegs", they'd get so many complaints that they'd be ostracized from the community, lose all their business, and shut down.
pjsmikeJul 29, 2010
Keep in mind that decaf is not caffeine free. There are people who still get the jolt on decaf.
At bars, you get the watered-down beers.
juankovoJul 29, 2010
You can sue for fraudulent claims or actively boycott the restaurant. No need to make another silly law.
sdcarterJul 29, 2010
I used to work at a shop in a mall that gave free coffee refills to mall employees. Most were nice, but some were real dicks when it took me a minute to stop what I was doing to get them more free coffee. I had a special pot of decaf brewed for them on my last day. Sure I worked a bit harder because they kept coming back for refills, but it was worth it just to f**k with them.
docpowerJul 28, 2010
It makes you not want to eat out anymore. No more specials for lemon in my water for me.
sungoddess808Jul 29, 2010
and some of us wonder why we feel ill after eating in restaurants.
po43292Jul 29, 2010
That is absolutely true about the lemons in bars and restaurants I've worked at, even high-end ones.
anonymous6237Jul 29, 2010
They don't even begin to cover the worst part about the lemons. The lemons are usually in a large cardboard box in the walk-in freezer. I can't remember how many times I went to pull lemons for my shift and several of the ones on the bottom were fuzzy and really disgusting. Did anyone throw them away? Of course not, who wants to touch that?
thereddarrenJul 29, 2010
It's really not that bad. What you're most likely referring to is the mold penicillium, from which we derive penicillin.While it shouldn't be ingested, and probably thrown out before it spreads, it isn't really anything to be concerned about. It's very common.
idontevenJul 29, 2010
Especially after reading: "If you're a vegetarian and you ask if we use vegetable stock, I’m going to say yes, even if we don’t. You’ll never know the difference."
To me, that's pretty f**ked up. Why? Because not all people who are vegetarians do it solely for moral reasons. A lot actually do it as a result of allergies or because they have a very hard time digesting animal based foods. I know a few people who are gluten intolerant and as a result, usually have to eat off the vegetarian menu and if they were to eat gluten, they'd end feeling like s**t the next day.
kerrigoreJul 29, 2010
That's exactly what I first thought when I read that. Seems like a real dick move to tell someone it's vegetarian stock when it isn't just because you want to keep their business.
kajaragoJul 29, 2010
Gluten is actually (only) found in grains and their derivative products so eating off of the vegetarian menu would not help your friends in any way with their gluten intolerance.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten
sharkus414Jul 29, 2010
It happens in more than soup. Meat gets put everywhere because it make things tastes good. I know it gets put in mashed potatoes all the time to make them more rich.
crashingstarJul 29, 2010
It's kind of presumptuous to assume that all servers have no integrity. In most cases, unless the menu specifies vegetable stock, it's animal based and if it's really that big a deal you can ask to speak with the executive or sous chef. If you're upfront and polite about your dietary restrictions, many restaurants (short of the big chains which get most of their food pre-made in bags and boxes) can be very accommodating. Happy guest = more visits = more money.
That's not to say we're not going to poke fun at you in the kitchen for walking into an Italian restaurant and saying you're allergic to garlic though.
deadpoetic333Jul 30, 2010
f**k that, I would never tell someone something didn't have meat in it when I specifically knew it did. Neither would many of the servers I work with. I don't even understand why I would tell you otherwise unless it was as I brought it to the table. I'd be pissed but I'd still tell you the truth...
Now if you you start yelling at me that your portobello sandwich doesn't have meat on it, I'll remember you...
simonsezzJul 29, 2010
I don't remember what magazine it was but it had an article about lemon in restaurants. Supposedly it has the most fecal matter on it out of any food in a restaurant because the lemon is usually handled by at least three people before it gets into your glass.
Also, another lemon fact: At most restaurants a drink with a lemon costs the restaurant the most money because of the current high cost of lemons. A lot of restaurants have stopped serving fresh-cut lemon for this reason.
kajaragoJul 29, 2010
Your friends are full of s**t then. Gluten is actually (only) found in grains and their derivative products so eating off of the vegetarian menu would not help them in any way.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten
docholiday22Jul 29, 2010
I always say "never think while you're eating".
shicken066Jul 29, 2010
I don't really understand the disgust about the lemon. So a bunch of people touched it? Our bodies do have pretty bad ass immune systems. Just eat the damn thing, and realize your white blood cells will take care of most, it not all the bacteria you just ate. You can't avoid germs, and it seems the people who do everything possible to avoid them, get sick the most. I don't go outside and eat dirt, but I typically don't give a damn about common bacteria. I drink a lot, smoke, eat like s**t and only get sick every few years.
acid_jazzJul 29, 2010
I agree with your point, and would also like to add that the acidity of the lemon would probably kill most of the bacteria.
atarioJul 30, 2010
- It's not just that people have touched them, it's that they're completely unwashed as well.
- The acidity of the lemon is on the inside, not the peel, where all the filth is.
- The human race survived, but lifespans have only shot up in that last 100 years with all those rules that annoy you.
- It's just gross. If you don't understand that, nothing else will get through to you.
brucealmightyJul 29, 2010
If you get a poor service from a waiter at a place where they pool tips you shouldn't feel obligated to tip any more in consideration of the rest of the staff. On the contrary, it's their job to police their own ranks when they see somebody isn't pulling in their fair share of tips.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Thats what we did at the Tim Hortons I worked at. We'd all bust our asses and then one bitch would ruin it and she'd end up on toilets.
blitzkrigJul 29, 2010
'end up on the toilets'?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
She had to clean them.
djlr181Jul 29, 2010
You would secretly feed her laxatives?
smacksawJul 29, 2010
I always knew that the Long John 8" was topped with Ex-Lax.
tmanvJul 29, 2010
People tip at Tim Hortons? I always throw my change in that camp jar that's at the cash...
hamlockJul 30, 2010
You must work at an upperclass tims. Because my tips usually fall into the snow under the drivethrough window,
cyclonusripJul 29, 2010
Ya that one is retarded. We used to have pooled tips at the place I worked and the service was much better on average, because the other waitresses would help out the s**tty one and help her get better. Now they are just happy to let them suck forever.
ashdrewnessJul 29, 2010
Win as a team. Lose as a team.
howboutbbqribsJul 29, 2010
Exactly. If the server is rude and offers terrible service then it's on him/her that the rest of the staff isn't getting a tip. Don't hate on the customer, hate on the terrible server you have employed.
tcsucksJul 30, 2010
Dear waiting staff,
If you are rude to me and give me bad service, tipping you horribly will ensure the bus boy, bar tender, and hosting staff get on your ass enough for you to be better at your job.
Sincerely,
Someone who tips because they get good service, not because they have to.
fsharifAug 15, 2010
that comment wasn't meant to imply that you should give your server awesome tips even if they gave you s**tty service, and it's also not applicable only to restaurants where servers pool tips. the point is, if you're just going out and plan on being a tightwad on the tip regardless of what quality of service you've received, you should think again. ultimately, if you're only tipping a server 10%, it's really like giving them 5% after they finish splitting tips with bussers, runners, bartenders, etc.
ooxmanJul 29, 2010
GODDAMNIT WHY DO WEB SITES USE SLIDESHOWS??
It's not like you need to conserve space or anything, that s**t's digital!
purzzzellJul 29, 2010
more pageloads=more ads at half a cent per impression.
hewhopoopsJul 29, 2010
The bastards.
asus3000Jul 29, 2010
not digging the article for this reason.
kerrigoreJul 29, 2010
I've seen some websites do it even when it's not loading a new page each time.That, I truly don't understand, other than that they must thing people like the format or something.
"Ooh, it's so exciting, what comes next!?"
zb757Jul 29, 2010
@Purz I have GlimmerBlocker, so no ads for me!
skillelJul 30, 2010
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atarioJul 30, 2010
What ads?
worldofsmutAug 9, 2010
"Without that ad revenue there would be little internet worth looking at any more, "
Bulls**t.
I remember in the nineties, when downloading warez and porn, meant warez and porn, not viruses and ads.
Nobody who set up a Geocities website made any money off it either. Ads suck.
jezsikJul 29, 2010
Furthermore, why waste so much space with photos that do absolutely nothing to illustrate the message in the text?
wizardmaster420Jul 29, 2010
i too spaz out over minor inconveniences
snaxieJul 29, 2010
Add me to the spaz list.
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
YOU FORGOT THE F**KING PERIOD IN YOUR SENTENCE. HOLY F**K!
thunder99Jul 29, 2010
Capitalism at work.
thegreatsamJul 29, 2010
Meh, just look for a little "print" link, it usually takes you to a page that has the entire article on one page.
Why people don't just submit THAT link to digg, I'll never understand.
locondcocoJul 29, 2010
that would make too much sense. just like it would to NOT make it a slide show.
skillelJul 30, 2010
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yankees368Jul 29, 2010
just click PRINT and you get a full page of all the slides.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
http://www.rd.com/content/printContent.do?contentId=169685&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=790&modal=true
animan351Jul 30, 2010
You are why i came to the comments section.
nightowl76Jul 30, 2010
Is it that hard to click?
peagleAug 8, 2010
You're right, it was very easy to click bury on your comment.
Closed AccountAug 13, 2010
You know, there was a link right underneath the slideshow letting you see it all on one page... how has nobody seen it?!
scenicanemiaJul 29, 2010
Decaf is the devil's work.
cygnus2112Jul 29, 2010
It sounds like that Charity Ohlund is a real piece of work..
"In most restaurants, after 8 p.m. or so, all the coffee is decaf because no one wants to clean two different coffeepots. I’ll bring out a tray with 12 coffees on it and give some to the customers who ordered regular, others to the ones who ordered decaf. But they're all decaf.
—Charity Ohlund"
After 8pm, I'm going to assume most people want a coffee to keep them awake after a big meal on the drive home. If she's serving up decaf to these people because she's lazy and doesn't want to clean coffeepots, then she's a selfish **** who is likely putting a few drivers at risk. At least serve regular coffee and lie to the decaf drinkers.
everglow89Jul 29, 2010
Except that caffeine can be even more dangerous to people that shouldn't have it than it is for the people who want it to stay awake.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
The coffee and tea things made me wonder if they've just got an old Mr. Coffee brewing in the back. Maybe it's because I don't get to the fancy restaurants, but the places I've been usually have a huge 2~ gallon coffee maker. One side's unleaded and the other's leaded with a hot water spout in the middle. The washing involves flushing it with hot water and scrubbing it once a week.
The tea? The water coming out is already hot, you just put it in a teacup, put a teabag on the saucer next to it and walk it over. Too much work my ass.
smacksawJul 29, 2010
Coffee drinkers know that. I've seen people go in and ask for a fresh pot to be brewed for them because they know.
Also, you can tell the difference between the two. Decaf tastes...sour and/or more acidic. It tastes like bathroom cleaning supplies.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Real coffee tastes like angels brought it to you directly from heaven specifically for you. Decaf tastes like someone ran s**t through a used oil filter.
locondcocoJul 29, 2010
or better known as "Magic Coffee".
boojoyJul 29, 2010
Oh good, another list of "waiter secrets" about how they screw you and/or are lazy and unprofessional. Always entertaining.
Oh, and please keep the tips coming.
akairennJul 29, 2010
I'd really like to know what sub-par, trendy s**tholes people eat in where they get decaf coffee and powdered eggs.
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
Mcdonalds...
fodaJul 29, 2010
Actually, even McDonalds uses real eggs. It comes liquefied in a carton.
purzzzellJul 29, 2010
They left off "everyone in the restaurant industry smokes pot. The serving staff is probably high anywhere from 10-25% of the time that you eat out. If you consider serving staff OR cooks, that number is probably closer to 50%.
locastusJul 29, 2010
This is true.
I used to work at a cafe where the cook would smoke blunts while cooking, and blow the smoke out through the extractor vents.
People thought that the black flecks on their eggs was pepper....
russ3Jul 29, 2010
god damn yes i went to my last restaurant job not stoned once, it sucked, so boring and aggravating
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Erm, no. The last thing I want is to be slowed down on a night when we're all getting our asses kicked. It would kill your tips. No thank you.
stealth45Jul 29, 2010
I go to work high all the time. Monotonous prep work flies by and I end up really focused when we get busy.
I'd say probably 75% of the kitchen staff and like 60% of servers blaze there.
matt11952Jul 29, 2010
Confirmed, everyone at my restaurant job smokes pot. I agree that it sucks being really busy when you're stoned and not thinking entirely straight, but it definitely doesn't affect my tips. I'm more friendly when I'm high.
sherwin7Jul 29, 2010
Was looking for a comment about this. Every friend of mine that works in a restaurant smokes weed and always smokes on their way to work.
zomgondoJul 29, 2010
And let's not forget that your server deals with s**tty customers by sampling the wine collection... that's why she knows what's best at the moment.
masterkhaxJul 30, 2010
I miss being a waiter... I would blaze every day 20 minutes before my shift :') And during longer shifts if I worked quick I'd end up with like an hour lunch break and so I'd smoke then too as did a lot of other people working there, lol.
deadpoetic333Jul 30, 2010
I'll blaze before work and at some point will probably hop out to my car and spark another bowl. You'd probably like me better high.
rattusrattusJul 29, 2010
I would be the surliest waitress in the world if I had that job. Some people insist that if they're giving you money, that you perform analingus on them. I say this more from eating out with rich bitch family members than working in the service industry. I can't blame them for being f**ked up; as long as you're sober enough to provide me with food and beverage, we're cool.
danplainviewJul 29, 2010
What We Want You to Know
In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters.
I'd like to know why they think this is on the customer.If I were the bartender, the water boy, the hostess, the food runners or the other waiters and one of the other waiters didn't get a tip because they're a complete ass, I'd blame that waiter, not the customer.
It takes ALOT for me to stiff a waiter/waitress. ALOT. And when I do it THEY damn well deserved it.
dephextwinJul 29, 2010
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s1600/ALOT.png
"Why won't you ever pay a tip when you dine with me?"
srgordyJul 30, 2010
A LOT.
I'm sorry, I just had to.
drekorJul 29, 2010
Food service doesn't attract a lot of motivated professionals. Keep your expectations reasonable. Also, Chili's, Outback, and Olive Garden are not high class establishments, adjust your expectations accordingly.
crashingstarJul 29, 2010
Every server in my restaurant is either working their way through college or already has a bachelor's degree and can't find real work. Not really fair to say it doesn't attract motivated professionals.
rorythefaggotJul 29, 2010
Yep, same as Pizza Delivery ones etc. "Here's a bunch of ways we screw you, and a guilt trip about tipping us".
So glad I live in a country where you're not supposed to tip.
elleconJul 30, 2010
I once spit in a drink when I worked as a waitress. This woman used to come in specifically to be a bitch to me because she was in love with my boyfriend. It was a phlegmy oyster in a paralyzer. I'm so ashamed.
morpheousmartyJul 30, 2010
Haha, welcome to the real world, enjoy your food. The same attitude gives you s**tty service over the phone. Remember who's really in charge when dealing with customer service. I know I'll get dugg way down for this one, no one likes minimum wage lackeys having one up on them, but life's a bitch like that, and I've already done my good deed for the day.
rblancarteJul 29, 2010
God, I hate this one: "In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters."
I have news for you - too f**kING BAD. If I get bad service, then I am going to let the person that serves me know. If the others at the establishment get punished for that, well that is their problem. But don't try to make me feel bad because you work with someone who sucks. Get them to shape up or ship out.
BTW - I have worked service industry - it was hard, and I wasn't cut out for it. But I did my best, and when it was time for me to move on, I did.
zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
There were way too many topics relating to tip. I'm going to tip relative to the service I receive. I've often tipped a dollar or just simply rounded up the change when the waiter was that awful.
Example: Took the girlfriend out for a nice dinner at a smaller place. The waiter spent more time standing at the bar watching TV than he did making sure we had what we wanted (we didn't) and that our drinks were refilled (they weren't). What should have been a solid $8+ tip became a $1 tip.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
"I've often tipped a dollar or just simply rounded up the change when the waiter was that awful."
I've only gotten horrible service less than a dozen times, and usually I still leave 5-10%. The worst service I ever got I gave the money to the waitress and asked for my change. I didn't even leave a penny.
On the other side of things, I once ordered my steak "still mooing," turned to my friend and said "like your mom." The waitress said to me, without a pause, "is she purple on the inside, too?" I left her a 60% tip.
When I've drained my coke, I put it near the end of the table. If I see you walk past it 10 times while making an effort not to look at it or me I keep track. You start at a 30% tip, and every time you go out of your way to ignore me or you give me a hard time you lose 5%.
tcsucksJul 30, 2010
Gratuity is exactly that: Gratuity. There's two different sides of the coin and neither will ever see each other.
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
A friend of mine served tables at a fairly high-end place.
She always stressed that dissatisfied customers should speak to the manager, or leave a note with the bill.
Unfortunately, a certain percentage of people don't tip much, if anything. If you leave a crummy tip because you were dissatisfied with the food or service, it really is important to let someone know. Otherwise they'll just assume you're a cheapskate.
cire84117Aug 2, 2010
If you don't leave a tip it can show that you just forgot. If you leave a tiny tip then it shows that you didn't like the service.
theungodJul 29, 2010
If it happens often enough that a bad waiter gets a crappy tip, maybe it'll work like Full Metal Jacket, and they'll beat the offender with socks filled with soap. Or just fire them.
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
Or he'll shoot up the restaurant.
mhugginsJul 29, 2010
I once tipped "go f**k yourself" to a bitch who complained that I kept closing my tab at a bar even though I consistently gave 30% every purchase up to that point, and was buying multiple drinks on my card every time too. She yelled at me because closing my tab was making her do more work. Yeah, I'm not mad that I wrote go f**k yourself, it's your job to take care of my bill if I want it closed every time.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Well, I hope your "best" was enough to make sure your coworkers we're getting f**ked out of money.
coraduganJul 29, 2010
totally agree- you said it all in a nutshell!
hellakidsJul 29, 2010
The whole point of that part of the article was talking about cheap ass people. rblancarter i bet you worked in a pizza joint and consider that "service industry". Sometimes servers deserve not getting a tip, but this was a reference to the people that just dont tip. Everyone that has posted about this article is either ignorant or a complete tool. And ZentraediElite 8 dollar tip? jesus christ you are generous. thats a huge tip, did you just order drinks and not eat?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
casey3353Jul 29, 2010
Here's another one.
If you want to know the cleanliness of the kitchen, see how much effort they put into keeping the bathrooms clean.
locastusJul 29, 2010
I disagree.
Most places I've worked it's the staff who clean the kitchen, whereas the toilets and restaurant area were cleaned by third party contractors.
But then, in the UK, restaurants get certified on the cleanliness of the kitchen and alot of chefs see it as a matter of pride to have a clean kitchen.
shawn4168Jul 29, 2010
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docholiday22Jul 29, 2010
It''s a bit of both. If the manager/owner takes pride in his work he likes everything including the bathroom/toilets to be clean.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Pretty sure it's the bathroom.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Right on, when I was cooking at Hooters I made sure that kitchen was sparkling clean. Besides the sooner I started, and the better it was the more time I had to go party with the girls.
jimithingJul 29, 2010
This is very true. They know customers are going to see the bathroom. If they let something they know you are going to see be very dirty and nasty can you imagine what the kitchen (something they know you are not going to see) looks like? I've worked in the industry for years..and sure enough clean bathrooms tend to = clean kitchens, where nasty bathrooms always = nasty kitchens.
speedyrevJul 29, 2010
I Agree with casey3353!
I own a small cafe and I've never had an outside service clean. Every employee cleans. And furthermore, it takes very little effort to clean the restroom, a heck of a lot more work to keep the kitchen clean. When I see a dirty restroom, I immediately think, "if they are not cleaning here, what do the places that I can't see look like."
rcalberyJul 29, 2010
Horrible theory. Kitchen staff don't clean the bathrooms. Poorly paid employees do that stuff.
enantiodromiaJul 29, 2010
In a real restaurant, there is a General Manager, an Executive Chef, and often a Bar Manager, and a Maître d', we well as other investors and owners.
It is ALL of their responsibility to ensure all aspects of the restaurant are clean and presentable, ESPECIALLY the parts that the guests can see.
If the bathroom is dirty, if there is piss on the floor and poop on the walls, NONE of them are doing their jobs right, and you should run away before putting more of their food into your mouth.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Where the hell do you eat at where there is poop on the walls?
We had a cleaning company clean the bathrooms and the kitchen staff cleaned the kitchen.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
sure, but when you have towel dispensers hanging by one screw and rusting faucets and one dimly lit light bulb...it's pretty certain the owner is a cheap ass.
altf4meJul 29, 2010
There are quite a few restaurants in England where you can see through to the kitchen. I really like it.
crosshareJul 29, 2010
This has been said by the owner of one of the top Steakhouses in NYC. They interviewed him on 20/20 or some other similar show, and he was dropping tips on how to run a great restaurant. That was his big one for customers, never eat somewhere the bathrooms are filthy, it's much harder keep a prep kitchen and regular kitchen clean than the bathrooms.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Yep, I hate it when a drunk customer walks into the kitchen and pisses on the floor by accident.
speedyrevJul 29, 2010
It's not about who does the cleaning. It's about attention to detail. If the owner/manager lets the bathroom go, which is a public viewed area, what is he letting go behind closed doors.
manovaJul 29, 2010
While I agree with this, I will tell you from experience working in a restaurant, people that worked there saw cleaning the kitchen as part of their job and cleaning the restroom as a punishment. We would spend hours sometimes scrubbing everything in the kitchen and then the manager would ask if some had cleaned the restrooms and somebody would take the dirty mop bucket, kick open the door, and quickly swish the mop around.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Thank god we were only responsible for cleaning the kitchen. A separate cleaning company did the restrooms.
hereticoftruthAug 15, 2010
Any poor example in a business establishment clearly reflects on what the management allows to happen on their watch. I let the staff know when there is a problem and if that problem remains for weeks (or years) you better believe I won't give that establishment my business if I can avoid it. The worst signs ARE unsanitary bathrooms, a constant smell of rotting garbage, flies in the dead of winter, particularly the little young flies, dirty tables with the filth smeared instead of wiped away, and food prepared without any concern for quality. That norm is not acceptable.
trollbaneJul 29, 2010
"In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters."
Tough f**king luck, if I get poor service, I'm going to stiff you on the tip. If I receive excellent service, I'll tip better than normal. The whole point of tipping is to reward exceptional service, not just an extra charge I should give you because you work a s**tty job.
rattusrattusJul 29, 2010
I tip better when I'm drunk, so really, it depends on how alcoholic the beers you have on draft are.
spacemanspiff22Jul 29, 2010
"Bad experience" often includes "waiter sucks and didn't give a s**t." Yet apparently we're still supposed to tip them? I love how the person goes out of their way to not differentiate between circumstances out of their control and general ineptitude, saying we should just tip anyway, regardless. Nice.
nosecohnJul 29, 2010
The other thing is, if the other servers see that one of them is repeatedly being stiffed on tips, thereby affecting the whole pool, they might say something to him/her. It's not my responsibility to know that the tips are pooled, but even if I do, that doesn't change the fact that the service was poor.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Most people who get tipped-out do not usually interact with the customers and if so, not very often at all.
gibbonsbeardJul 29, 2010
exactly. if other people get screwed because of your servers terrible service it's not the paying customers fault.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
For me, "bad experience" is usually an amalgamation of "waiter doesn't know too terribly much about the menu/is new" and "food is overpriced/underwhelming".
In these situations, I still leave a decent tip, especially if the server made an honest attempt to accommodate me.
I remember many occasions where a customer left me no tip whatsoever, due to some miniscule problem that was resolved quickly. I've left smallish tips when deserved, but have never stiffed anyone outright.
inglouriousterdJul 30, 2010
You hear this? This is the worlds smallest violin playing for all the waitresses
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
I think Jerry Seinfeld had a bit with this.
"What, are we now supposed to tip 15% minimum for a lack of outright hostility?"
1b2aJul 30, 2010
If you expect to take a cab home from a night out with friends, make sure to be extremely drunk so you don't have to pay and tip.
yunusJul 29, 2010
19 secrets I will never know because of the stupid slideshow. Buried.
damnmonkeyJul 29, 2010
Print, done, no more slides.
Closed AccountAug 13, 2010
Use the link that's right underneath it that says "all on one page".
anub1sJul 29, 2010
Never be rude to the person making your food.
davethe3rdJul 29, 2010
I would advise against the clam chowder, sir...
drewbaJul 29, 2010
Our special today is the Cream of Semen & Pus. It's exquisite!
worldofsmutAug 9, 2010
Actually, never be rude to ANYONE.
Be firm, be assertive, be direct.
If you have a problem, say something.
But don't be a dick.
gorftronJul 29, 2010
I went to a buffet with some relatives and everyone put in a dollar to top the waitress. She worked rather hard for us, considering it was a buffet and some people ordered from the menu. Oh ya, my aunt did not tip at all. She was worth at least $10million, but she said the waitress was probably paid enough already.
hipmanJul 29, 2010
Well I guess it's her choice.Frankly no one should be compelled to.
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
No one should be compelled to but if the service is good and you have more money then you can spend then what is wrong with leaving a single dollar as a tip?
I think what gorftron is trying to say is that rich people really are the f**king bastard that aren't tipping anyone no matter how good the service is.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
Nice sweeping generalisation there, stk198323..
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
@Flamekebab
Yes it's a GENERALISATION because in GENERAL rich people doesn't tip. What's wrong with that? Are you so easily offended that we can't state the truth?
I never said we should burn every rich person right now since they never EVER tip anyone. I stated what most people already experienced: the richest person are the one who share the least in GENERAL. I never said they are all bastards I just said in GENERAL they aren't really nice.
We really should stop this s**t of being offended when someone talk GENERALLY about a subject. Would you be offended if i said: in general men weight more then women? That's a generalisation! Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
Well, stk198323, in GENERAL you're wrong. Having grown up around plenty of wealthy people I can tell you that in my experience you're completely wrong.
I'm not offended, as you keep insisting, I just think you're wrong, based on my own experience. Getting so defensive about it makes you sound a little like you're trying to convince yourself, at least to me ("the lady doth protest too much", lol).
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
u both mad
galacticrerunJul 29, 2010
Your "beloved aunt" eh?
somedummyJul 29, 2010
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
rattusrattusJul 29, 2010
You know they make like $3 an hour? Also, I'm guessing you're a troll; and if not, you're just a douche. People do f**k with other people's food, so I wouldn't be a regular anywhere.
pablopicanteJul 29, 2010
But they get paid less because it's assumed they'll get a tip.
If you get a good service you pay a normal tip, which gives them even money compare to other jobs. If you get a great service you tip more to show your appreciation. If it's bad you tip less.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
Why does it matter how much they earn?
I don't expect to pay extra for my bus fare based on how much my bus driver is paid!
enderwigginJul 29, 2010
Hey, our girl was nice.
idontevenJul 29, 2010
WHOOOOSH
9lbtacoJul 29, 2010
Never mind what you would normally do. Just cough in your god damned buck like everybody else.
brewbeauJul 29, 2010
Hey! Who didn't put in?
ledguitarJul 30, 2010
@Gordon2108. They pay them minimum wage. They just usually deserve more.
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
@Gordon: "I have to ask how the f**k an employer gets away with paying them FAR less than minimum wage?"
Because this is America. Workers aren't recognized as humans here.
rattusrattusJul 29, 2010
My sister has the same attitude. I don't like going out to eat with her anymore, she has such attitude. Her husband leaves such lousy tips it embarrasses my father. They also have money.
dsolteszAug 9, 2010
I'd rather have a friend bust out the tip calculator than undertip because he's bad at math.
wakkyweedJul 29, 2010
Being a lousy tipper is essentially the same as being a social retard. It's embarrassing to be around people like that.
atarioJul 30, 2010
...in a culture which considers tipping mandatory. In lots of cultures, tipping is an insult.
somedummyJul 30, 2010
In lots of cultures it's considered a great idea to wipe your ass with your hand.
shawn4168Jul 29, 2010
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dsolteszAug 9, 2010
http://www.itipping.com/tip-guide-restaurant.htm
haikufuJul 29, 2010
My wife and I went out to dinner with a couple of her friends. I put in my portion of the bill plus tip. And the other couple subtracted what I put in from the total and just paid the remainder, no tip. f**kers.
That said, I usually tip 20-25% if someone is on the ball and nice. But I'll tip a big fat ZERO if the service sucks. I've given $1000 tips before when taking clients out for an expensive dinner.
dephextwinJul 29, 2010
"I've given $1000 tips before when taking clients out for an expensive dinner."
You went out for $4000-5000 dinners?
ericcireJul 29, 2010
He never said the tips were given at the restaurant.
haikufuJul 29, 2010
> You've gone out for $4000-5000 dinners?
Yes, but it's typically with 8 or more people, and the majority of it is wine. Whatever the client wants, the client gets.
seltaeb4Jul 30, 2010
I was shocked when I learned people did this, people I actually thought of as friends.
One guy in particular would pull the "oh, I couldn't make it to the ATM, so I'll take everyone's cash and put the total on my card."
I, like I would assume most decent people do, figure their total and add 20%+ when dining in a large party, because I assume someone is going to stiff on tip.
Little did I realize that this SOB was taking the money and *then stiffing on the tip.* He considered 10% a rare and generous tip. Not only was he stealing from his supposed friends in using others' money to cover his order, he was stealing from the waitstaff by siphoning off a substantial chunk of the intended tip. He actually wound up ahead on the deal.
Needless to say, he's no longer a friend. I cringe when I think of all the servers and busboys who got screwed by our party because of this bastard.
It's no wonder waiters hate large parties. Everyone is demanding, everyone's order comes up at the same time, and then in every crowd there's a bastard like my ex-friend.
I sincerely apologize to anyone I've shorted, even by proxy.
The way I was raised, nothing like his money shuffle would ever even have *occurred* to me.
jeffwmartinJul 29, 2010
Your aunt is Steve Buschemi?
gorftronJul 29, 2010
One thing I am seeing more and more in some bars and restaurants is a bathroom attendant. The guy sits there with a few towels, mints and some bottles of cologne. I take a piss and he shoves a paper towel at me on the way out and leers at me for a tip.
I'm sorry, f**ko. I can take care of my business with out tip-worthy help.
jcimsJul 29, 2010
He probably doesn't actually work there.
somedummyJul 29, 2010
I've seen bathroom attendants at strip clubs before. What a crock of s**t. They don't do anything but hand you a paper towel and expect to get a tip. Can you imagine a lower form of life than a guy that works in a strip club men's room? He's surrounded by hot girls that are only interested in money and it's clear he has absolutely none.
A stripper looks at a broke guy like she's looking at a bug. So his work day must be fun.
duncan202Jul 29, 2010
You lost me after the third sentence.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
in China they have a team of people in the bathroom of large restaurants.
they turn on your faucet and hand you a real towel, not paper.
i'm told that is all the money they make. they also keep the bathrooms clean and well stocked.
ktownreject0358Jul 29, 2010
I remember going to a club and inside the restroom were two female attendants. First of all, they looked like they were just two girls gabbing in the restroom, as they were not in uniform or anything. They were standing there, chatting, smoking, in which one happened to be pregnant. I went in, did my thing, and washed my hands and afterward they gave me the dirtiest look, hoping for a tip or something. It was extremely weird, as I've never experienced that before, let alone see a pregnant woman with a cigarette in her mouth just gabbing about how her baby daddy doesn't want to fork any fatherly support for her unborn child. I told her she should have another cigarette and walked out. I haven't been to that club since.
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
Are you sure you just didn't confused men and women bathroom?
mattyboy555Jul 29, 2010
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dephextwinJul 29, 2010
Dad, I am confused men and women bathroom.
Son, dugg for honest.
corneljeJul 29, 2010
A friend of mine was a bathroom attendant years ago. He used to sling drugs.
drekorJul 29, 2010
That's the real reason they're there. You think a tray of cheap cologne and chewing gum is the reason he has $20 bills in that basket behind him?
idontevenJul 29, 2010
I agree. Unless the minute you walk into the restroom, he unzips your pants, grabs your dick and points it at the urinal. He isn't getting anything.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nonymous666Jul 29, 2010
If he tries to hold my dick or lick my ass clean, he isn't getting a dime.
rorythefaggotJul 29, 2010
Ya, I dislike this trend, they've started popping up in clubs in Ireland too. Most are nice guys who are usually half asleep on the chair by the end of the night and who I feel bad for, they're almost always Nigerian immigrants clearly working more than one job to scrape by.
Still not tipping them though, clubs are hella expensive already and there's no way I'm encouraging another way for them to rob me by effectively charging me to wash my hands after taking a leak. Some of the dudes get pretty pissed if you don't tip though, one girl once followed a friend of mine out of the bathroom screaming at her for a tip, she was repeatedly told to f**k herself.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
they should turn on the faucet, hand me a towel and open the door if they want a tip.
that way they get the bacteria. which that dollar hopefully will fix.
sublimeflyJul 29, 2010
I've tipped a few of these guys before. But only if they go above and beyond for me like holding that nasty door or once one of them wiped the seat for me before I went in to the stall. But if he's just handing you a towel then he can keep it as a tip.
The ones in the strip club better f**king be there to turn the sink on and/or open the doors because I don't need to be touching things with a strangers knuckle children on them.
Also this is not a new trend. This is a very old trend, it used to be the norm.
elleconJul 30, 2010
Dugg for "f**ko"
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
I've seen this too. I am literally OFFENDED by the presence of these people getting in my way when i'm trying to do my business. GET THE f**k OUT OF MY WAY YOU JACKASS. Nobody needs help in a washroom unless they are 5.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
I have to disagree with you. Those guys are needed. Every bathroom with them is:
1. clean
2. no f**king drug use
3. give him a dolar for f**k sake you cheap f**k
tarantulusJul 29, 2010
20 things that most savvy people already know
bignetbuyJul 29, 2010
20pages of BS. WTF. Full article:
1) In most restaurants, after 8 p.m. or so, all the coffee is decaf because no one wants to clean two different coffeepots. I’ll bring out a tray with 12 coffees on it and give some to the customers who ordered regular, others to the ones who ordered decaf. But they're all decaf.
2) We put sugar in our kids' meals so kids will like them more. Seriously. We even put extra sugar in the dough for the kids' pizzas.
3) If you're a vegetarian and you ask if we use vegetable stock, I’m going to say yes, even if we don’t. You’ll never know the difference.
4) At a lot of restaurants, the special is whatever they need to sell before it goes bad. Especially watch out for the soup of the day. If it contains fish or if it’s some kind of "gumbo," it's probably the stuff they're trying to get rid of.
5) Now that I’ve worked in a restaurant, I never ask for lemon in a drink. Everybody touches them. Nobody washes them. We just peel the stickers off, cut them up, and throw them in your iced tea.
6) If you ask me how many calories are in a particular dish, I'm not allowed to tell you even if I know. I'm supposed to say, "All that information is available online."
7) I've never seen anybody do anything to your food, but I have seen servers mess with your credit card. If a server doesn’t like you, he might try to embarrass you in front of your business associate or date by bringing your credit card back and saying, "Do you have another card? This one didn’t go through.
8) Skim milk is almost never skim milk. Very few restaurants outside Starbucks carry whole milk, 2 percent milk, skim milk, and half-and-half; it's just not practical.
9) Some places buy salad dressings in one-gallon jars, then add a few ingredients, like a blue cheese crumble or fresh herbs, and call it homemade on the menu.
10) The single greatest way to get your waiter to hate you? Ask for hot tea. For some reason, an industry that’s managed to streamline everything else hasn’t been able to streamline that. You've got to get a pot, boil the water, get the lemons, get the honey, bring a cup and spoon. It’s a lot of work for little reward.
11) In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters.
12) Even at the best breakfast buffet in the world, 99 times out of 100, the big pan of scrambled eggs is made from a powder.
13) People think that just because your food took a long time, it's the server's fault. Nine times out of ten, it's the kitchen. Or it's the fact that you ordered a well-done burger.
14) When you’re with the woman who's not your wife, you’re a lot nicer to us, probably because you know that we know it’s not your wife.
15) It’s much easier to be recognized as a regular on Mondays, Tuesdays, or Wednesdays. Once you’re recognized as a regular, good things start to happen. You’ll find your wineglass gets filled without being put on your bill, or the chef might bring you a sample.
16) Avoid Mother’s Day and Valentine’s Day like the black plague. It’s crazy busy, so they’re not going to be able to pay as much attention to quality. Plus, they bring out a special menu where everything is overpriced.
17) If the restaurant is busy and your child is shy, please order for him. Kids can sit there forever trying to decide, or they whisper and you can’t hear them. Meanwhile, the people at the next table are yelling at you to come over.
18) The best tippers tend to be middle-class or people who have worked for everything they have, not the really wealthy or the kid who inherited the trust fund. Which is not to say that we mind if you use coupons. But when you do, tip on the amount the bill would have been without them.
19) First dates, especially blind Internet dates, are great for tips. You know he’ll probably order a bottle of wine and leave a 20 to 25 percent tip because he's showing off.
20) Don’t order fish on Sunday or Monday. The fish deliveries are usually twice a week, so Tuesday through Friday are gre
crystlJul 29, 2010
Damn Ninj
hewhopoopsJul 29, 2010
Hire this man.
jezsikJul 29, 2010
I wish I saw you post before wading through the damn page loads. Thanks for the effort!
webchimp32Aug 7, 2010
Bet you wish you has seen the 'View All' link as well.
LooseBrieJul 29, 2010
Thanks :-)
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I came to the comments looking for you. I did not know who you were or what you would look like, but I knew you would be here. I found you, and I am not disappointed.
cropimpJul 30, 2010
mike jones?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Guys, I think we should tip him.
mightymosJul 29, 2010
very nice of you, thanks.
densetsu23Jul 29, 2010
But where are the cheesy stock pictures to go with all these secrets?
/s
langcastleJul 29, 2010
I wish I can digg you twice
talphinJul 29, 2010
You could always just rummage through his profile, and digg one of his other comments up.
Just a thought. :P
dsolteszAug 9, 2010
Actually, I've done this for a comment so full of win I wanted to find some way to reward the commenter.
trifoldJul 29, 2010
I see you switched to your left hand for number 20.
But yes, thank you. Given the load times of rd.com, #'s 3-20 would have remained a mystery to me.
locondcocoJul 29, 2010
or you could have just clicked the little "print" link. you'd get them all on one page with the nice little pictures.
1b2aJul 30, 2010
You're not really furious at the article's format. You just want free diggs. If you hate wasting time, why waste time copy and pasting every f**king thing in there?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
uncleasrielAug 1, 2010
Who cares? S/he's done a service for us. Credit where credit's due.
number4940Aug 12, 2010
Right below the first one is a link that says "View slideshow on one page"
here's the link:
http://www.rd.com/content/printContent.do?contentId=169685&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=790&modal=true
sandman64Jul 29, 2010
"You've got to get a pot, boil the water, get the lemons, get the honey, bring a cup and spoon. It’s a lot of work for little reward"
I can't believe I just read that. Please tell me I didn't just read about someone complaining that they had to *gasp* make a cup of tea and receive "little reward." Hell, that's the first thing I do every morning while I'm still half asleep.
WCsharpehJul 29, 2010
And they wonder why they get little in the way of tips. They bitch about arbitrary tasks and then say we aren't throwing enough money at them.
po43292Jul 29, 2010
Work in a restaurant some time. You'll get it.
stk198323Jul 29, 2010
No! No I will never get it!
I worked cleaning the dish in a restaurant... every people around us received tip EVERY one, even the kitchen staff and the boss-boys and boss-girls and we received exactly 0% of the tips! We needed to wash everything with only 2 person when there was 5 waitress, 5 cooks and about 4 boss-girls and they would always yelling at us because we were ''too slow''.
Of course we were paid minimum salary and other people around us were making 1.5 - 4 times our salary with tips but I never ever tought of complaining...
But on the other hand I always said that when you have a job you either do it like you should... or quit!
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
You see if you're whinging about making a f**king cup of tea.. boiling a pot of water and sticking lemons and honey in it, THAT is the reason why you're making less than minimum wage by bringing food out to people. Because you're a useless, unskilled, lazy f**k.
dirtydaubJul 29, 2010
Actually, this is the only one out of the list where I was like "yeah, that s**t does suck." Im saying this working as a bartender for 4 years. Making hot tea for people is a pain in the ass.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
agree.
i've heard this from a former waitress.
for those that doubt this, i challenge you to order a round of hot tea for your table.
asielenJul 30, 2010
Just got off work and I have to agree: Tea is the worst.
atarioJul 30, 2010
I don't get it. Why would you boil each cup separately in a pot? Wouldn't a place that serves hot tea use a device that dispenses water as hot as is needed on demand? And pre-prepared lemons? And what's the problem with bringing cups, spoons, honey, etc.? Isn't bringing things to the table the entire point of the job?
Sounds like a lack of planning to me.
zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
Most places that have a coffee maker with the hot pads for keeping multiple pots going will usually have a water line connected to them. This water line also has a spout for directly filling a cup with *gasp* boiling water!
It sounds like this is an issue at a very small percentage of places, likely independents, as most chain restaurants should have this apparatus.
shawn4168Jul 29, 2010
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mustafyaJul 29, 2010
Yeah but that would require the person making the tea to have a brain.
Remember... they have a s**tty job for a reason.
gordon2108Jul 29, 2010
The reason they have a s**tty job is probably because there isn't much else to get at the moment without a f**k ton of college. Even then...
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Whogives a f**k? Its a f**king cup of tea! whoo-f**ky-do. big f**king deal to make either way.
atarioJul 30, 2010
Of even this sort of thing:
http://www.google.com/products?q=hot+water+dispenser+sink+high+capacity&hl=en
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I'm a bartender. This 'tip' is true. When it is really busy there can be as much as a five minute gap (which is already pushing people's limits on how long they'll wait) between what I am doing at that moment and the request that you're making while I'm mixing drinks and keeping every order in line for my customers and the floor service. No big deal. Not complaining, that's the job. But when you ask for hot tea it can take 1-2 minutes to prepare for a one dollar (or less, if people have your attitude that it's just 'f**king tea'). So yeah, everyone hates doing something time consuming for free. It's not that it's hard, your majesty.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
FFS, we're not asking for a full-on Japanese tea ceremony here! You know what tea is in every non-Japanese restaurant I've ever been to? It's a fraking cup of hot water with a tea baggie and slice of lemon on the side. That's it.
Here's an idea: get a cheapie water cooler with a "hot water" function (last I checked you can get one for under $200, easy); keep a large box of Lipton tea baggies on hand; slice up 5-6 lemons ahead of time. Boom - done! Painless tea in just about the same amount of time it would take to pour a cup of coffee.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
All of us lowly service workers will be sure to bring that up at the next owner's meeting, Whiskey.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
My man, no one is making a "big fuss" about it. Aren't there annoying things at your job that you complain about? When I was in sales I had to do TPS style reports in triplicate every week. They were easy but pointless. I complained about them on breaks just like everyone else complained about the crappy chairs we had in our cubes, or the night porter complains when people walk over where he just mopped. All I see in this entire comment section is a few servers defending themselves and basically a s**t ton of people raging that we should have the gall to have any complaints at all. Or that anyone, anywhere, ever has cut a corner or two. I'm sure everyone not in service are perfect saints at their job and are completely satisfied with every aspect of it and have nothing but nice things to say about their employers and customers. Please. I guess I just don't understand why people are so pissed at me for having a (minor, but industry-wide) pet peeve.
swillysJul 29, 2010
Does no one own a kettle? Makes this very easy...
amerijguyJul 29, 2010
I agree with the other people who've obviously been servers. Getting hot tea out (especially when it's 100+ degrees outside, you freaking idiots who order this in the heat of the summer *or April-September in my hometown*) back up everything. People seem to think that everything is independently done when you're a server. No, if you're waiting on 6 tables+ you need to consolidate as much as possible if you are to have any hope at timely service. One hot tea easily pushes ALL the drinks for a table back by a minute or more. They take up more space on trays. They're easier to spill than anything (besides drinks with no ice in them >.<). Heaven forbid if you've been double sat or triple sat. That simple hot tea has delayed your service by minutes for every table.
Actually, it wouldn't be that bad but most people have the patience and attention span of a 5 year old when they go out to eat. They figure they're paying for the meal plus they're EXPECTED to give a tip, which means everything should fly to them when they wish it or that they're the freakin Queen of England or such, and the servers and everyone else is just a lowly peon subject to their every whim. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
critramJul 29, 2010
If the restaurant serves tea, expect to make it. If it is such an issue tell your boss to stop serving it.
zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
I'm sorry, all I heard was, "bitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitch."
Reiterating something already noted: If it's on the menu, you serve it, what's the big deal?
hyperbolebluesJul 29, 2010
I don't think it's a big deal. It's just something that all servers hate to do. No one here is saying "I should never have to make tea EVER!" It's more like "Damn, making a hot tea for some bitch is really annoying." And then... well you go make the hot tea. Everyone has petty gripes about things they have to do in their jobs, no matter what the profession.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Just shut up and make a cup of tea. I like tea. It's your job to get it for me. Don't like your job? Quit.
pagemapJul 29, 2010
From the comments here, it seems every waiter/waitress hates their customers. f**k em, maybe everyone should stop tipping until service improves across the board. Other countries don't tip because they expect the business to pay them a fair wage.
amerijguyJul 30, 2010
hyperboleblues, exactly.
And once again, the self entitled asshats come out with the 'bwah I want it now and who cares blahblahblah'.
No one said they wouldn't make it. No one said that you wouldn't get it as fast as humanly possible. It's just it's a freaking annoying task in an already tedious strain of things I have to do for your corpulent ass. And once again, people who are so offended with tipping. Go to freaking Quiznos or McDonalds. Then you won't have to tip!
bdbrJul 29, 2010
They didn't say it was hard; they said it was time-consuming.
ellipsysJul 29, 2010
I worked for quite some time working in a Japanese restaurant in my youth, and its quite frankly only Western dining establishments that can't make tea efficiently. Go into a Chinese or Japanese restaurant and tea, hot or iced, along with at least 2 other specialty drinks and varieties of tea, are par for the course because it is part of the cuisine. How do they handle this without it being a clusterf**k? Pressurized water boilers. Zojirushi and quite a few other companies make stand-alone water boilers that will heat a whole f**kload of water to your specific temperature. Need 165 as not to burn green tea? Done! 212 for oolong? Done!
80% of customers got tea and in many cases, it was free the way ice water is free. All it took for a server was to spoon some dry loose leaf tea into one of our ceramic-filter-built-in mini tea pots, press down on bubble on top of water boiler, (optional) grab a lemon or yuzu slice the cooks kindly provided and slip it onto the teapot's saucer, place cups on tray besides pot and serve.
If Western establishments can't figure out how to do this with bagged tea, I'm not sure what to say. Even with less frequent tea service, there are a number of things you can do for minimal cost to make it MUCH easier on your servers.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
in most chinese restuarants i've eaten at, they just slam the teapot on the table.
probably not doable in non-chinese places.
i've never ordered hot tea at other places, so do they use pots or just a cup?
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everglow89Jul 29, 2010
Ok... Gonna get buried here.. I know what that person said was worded so stupidly. I only just started my restaurant job 2 days ago (4 stars, I'm excited) but I did work at a ColdStone for 5 years. Let me tell you, out of ANYTHING that job required the one thing I hated more than anything was making smoothies. It sounds menial to describe (get blender [clean if none are], dump in all ingrediants [which are all around the freakin' store], blend, blend again, probably blend one more time 'cause we're an ice cream store that doesn't invest heavily in sufficient blenders, pour, then serve to the customer that is pissed it took so long). It takes about 5 minutes when an ice cream would take me about 1. The problem comes when the people behind that customer see that he/she is getting something other than ice cream and think it would be such a unique experience to try that too. And it happened... every.... single...... time. I would end up cleaning the blenders so frequently, I could have served about 5 times the customers and received about 10 times better tips for more efficient, enthusiastic service. I would rather clean s**t from all over the walls and the toilet (which happened one day) than make smoothies.
It was also quite frustrating that we were NEXT DOOR to a Planet Smoothie with FAR superior smoothies.
Anyway, there's my rant/vent. Just, please, order ice cream next time you go to a Cold Stone. And if you tip, don't try to make them sing (it wasn't required and didn't make a damn bit of difference to my overall tips, so I never did).
tunaktunakJul 29, 2010
People at Cold Stone sing? Of what?
pagemapJul 29, 2010
It's your job, do it and if you don't like it, quit. You sound like a lazy f**k and I would never hire you.
everglow89Jul 29, 2010
@pagemap.
All I was saying was that it's unnecessary and frustrating. I didn't like it and I did quit after I had had enough. I was a supervisor/shift lead for 5 years, I'd hardly call that lazy. You sound bitter as f**k and I would never want to work for you.
bmayotteJul 29, 2010
I have a feeling you have never been a waiter. Having a table order 4 hot teas while you have 3 or 4 other tables needing your attention can be hell. We may earn about 75 cents for the hot teas and lose more than that in tips from other tables who are then getting worse service. Not to mention in many restaurants you also have to present a tea selection and wait for a couple minutes while the person decides on what tea and what sweetener they want.
Tea is just a mess as a server.
pagemapJul 29, 2010
Get over it, it's your job to serve the customer. Without them, you don't have a job. Furthermore, if you hate serving customers what they want, quit. If you worked for me, I'd fire your ass.
thereddarrenJul 29, 2010
@pagemap: Like Bmayonette said, you have clearly never served. Nobody said you weren't within your rights as a customer to order hot tea. Order it from me and I'll get it to you as fast as I can with a smile on my face, but at the same time other things are going on. I have another table that came in right after you and instead of waiting 1 minute, they're waiting 3 for me to introduce myself. That's putting them close to "getting pissed off" territory, and it can be pretty frustrating.
asielenJul 30, 2010
@pagemap
Do you love every aspect of your job? In waiting tables, there is always things that the waiters hope you order and things they hope you don't. Just like any job, there are tasks that you prefer to do. No one is saying they refuse to serve tea, just that they don't like to..
ganjamonstaJul 31, 2010
when someone orders hot tea from me, they immediately go to the back of my list of things to do. It takes five times longer to make a hot tea set up than it does to get all the drinks for a six top that doesn't order hot tea. From the waiter's standpoint, he's disappointing one person to make six other people happy. I also hate getting burned by boiling hot water. I also hate pretty much everyone who drinks hot tea recreationally -- they all tend to have the same s**tty personality, and same lack of care or respect for anything other than themselves or their tiny little worlds.
kinseyincanadaJul 29, 2010
so you dont complain about anything involving your job? Making tea is kinda annoying cause it involves so many steps but its not some huge deal it just sucks to do when your slammed busy.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Yeah.. so many steps.
1. put hot water in cup
2. put teabag in cup
3. stir
I take it back! It's pretty tough!
wallyantiAug 1, 2010
Yeah, that's not making tea in a restaurant. Here I'll help you.
1.)Take orders
2.)Bring out waters
3.)Put water in pot
4.)Set to temperature and remember it is boiling while you deal with 8 other people's orders
5.)Enter orders
6.)Check pot it may not be boiling yet;
7.)If water is boiling put it in pot; add tea; remember to come back in 3 minutes or the tea will over-steep and be bitter; assuming everyone's orders went though perfectly (which doesn't happen as often as you'd think bc customers don't usually know exactly what they want). If it over-steeps you have a whole new ordeal.
8.)Bring out the cold beverages
9.)Take the tea out by itself because the food orders wont be ready yet; it's only been 3 minutes; this is a special trip you normally wouldn't have to make; ignorant customer(you) will probably wonder why everyone else has their beverages and complain thus taking even more time
10.)take out the food orders; refill waters/cold beverages
11.)return used tea making wares to dishwash
12.)You'll probably end up with a s**tty tip because hey it's just effing hot tea right? Not to mention the time you could have been spending attending to your other customers for the sake of some tea snob that doesn't realize he's not in a tea house. You know the places where they have baristas assigned just for this task alone.
Keep in mind hot tea is not a typical request so you will be dealing with something very non-routine. When you deal with complex(read:time dependent) out of the ordinary requests in a high-speed environment like a restaurant problems invariably occur. This leads to a day long s**t-storm where you are constantly trying to catch back up for lost time.
It's funny how much stupid people take for granted.
dsolteszAug 9, 2010
Don't coffee pots/urns have a hot water dispenser on them? Hot tea is not f**king hard.
crashingstarJul 29, 2010
I would make hot teas all day long if I never had to make a cappuccino for the rest of my life. Those take so long to make and once one person asks for one then everyone at the table wants one. Meanwhile, the rest of my tables are wondering where I am.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
in cappuccino hell.
wallyantiJul 30, 2010
So when you make your own widdle cup o tea do you have to deal with a dozen or so other people's inane requests? Yeah, didn't think so. STFUComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
sandman64Jul 30, 2010
No, but I've worked as a server before and didn't complain half as much as some people would. Not saying I *never* complained... but i at least learned to f**king deal with it. Most of the frustration comes from a s**tty attitude on your own behalf.
wallyantiAug 1, 2010
@sandman64
You started off with...
"I can't believe I just read that. Please tell me I didn't just read about someone complaining that they had to *gasp* make a cup of tea and receive "little reward." Hell, that's the first thing I do every morning while I'm still half asleep."
and then ended up with...
"No, but I've worked as a server before and didn't complain half as much as some people would. Not saying I *never* complained."
Thank you for kicking yourself in the ass so I didn't have to waste time typing out why you are full of s**t. I would tell you again to STFU, but now you are telling yourself to do just that. Very weird argument my friend.
The article your original comment was made in response to wasn't about servers not being able to deal with it; it was about what pisses servers off because of the sucky cost benefit ratio. But you understand that, obviously, by your own omission. How does it feel to start off as a troll only to end up trolling yourself. You have quite a dizzying thought process. By that I mean that it makes me think of a hamster on a wheel.
Now I admit, I have little sympathy for servers; mostly because I'm a dishwasher and they make vastly more money than I can hope to for work that is far less physically taxing; but the average customer is a jerk-off with an attitude much like your own. That's why I stay in the pit and enjoy my pittance.
sandman64Aug 1, 2010
I fail to see your quarry... but I LOL at your misfortunate life and the anger you release anonymously on the interwebs.
wallyantiAug 1, 2010
Haha, yeah I'm sure that's the least of what you fail to see you presumptuous little prat. As far as releasing anger onto the internet anonymously goes; pot meet kettle.
I'm so sorry you don't approve of my lifestyle. That makes me so, so sad.
You are good sport m' boy. I think you're just swell.
wallyantiAug 1, 2010
Also, your usage of "quarry" makes my head hurt.
sandman64Aug 1, 2010
lol, I said "Not saying I *never* complained" (ie. about stuff in general. For someone to say they have NEVER complained about anything would be a complete lie. But... for the record, I have never complained about having to make a cup of tea)
Anyway, I've already wasted too much time on this thread
wallyantiAug 2, 2010
Right, you were just relating your general complaints to those made by uhh... unwilling tea makers. That's why you brought it up. Or perhaps complaining about having to make tea is the pinnacle of things you just shouldn't bitch about as a server?
Perhaps I am confused. Enlighten me; what was the purpose of that little flashback to when you worked at Denny's for a week.
webchimp32Aug 7, 2010
1. Put tea bags in tea pot
2. Press lever on hot water dispenser
3. Place on tray with cup milk and sugar
4. Take to table
Maybe about a minute, no biggie.
joculatorJul 29, 2010
don't eat out.
amishmackJul 29, 2010
I would stop, but your mom is quite persistent and knows what she wants.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Well played sir.
joculatorJul 29, 2010
My mom just turned 80...?
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Is she single?
cropimpJul 30, 2010
Her vagin hang like sleeve of wizard
worldofsmutAug 9, 2010
Om nom nom....
mkriss5681Jul 29, 2010
I worked in restaurants for 10 years as a teen and in my early 20's in many different restaurants and I can safely say almost all of these things are complete bulls**t.
althanisJul 30, 2010
You stayed extra long in the teens?
crystlJul 29, 2010
That's why I like McDonald's.
rudegarJul 29, 2010
21) that he's banging an under age girl ?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
LOL #14
'14) When you’re with the woman who's not your wife, you’re a lot nicer to us, probably because you know that we know it’s not your wife.'
cgradoJul 29, 2010
I love when people complain about things like making tea for their jobs. IT'S YOUR f**kING JOB. YOU GET PAID TO DO WHAT I ASK. Sorry that my sister wants a cup of tea, but it's a restaurant and it's on your menu.
kwcarpenterJul 29, 2010
Yeah, I think they forget that they are a business and customers ultimately pay their wages.
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
to a waiter, the cost in time spent on the tea is greater than on a soda.
but to the owner, the cost of the tea is cheaper than other drinks.
joshuau490Jul 29, 2010
But at the same time if you're sat two or three tables at the same time and someone orders a hot tea it really f**ks you over because it takes so much longer to get everyone's drinks out. Then the other tables are pissed because you were gone for two minutes. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
pagemapJul 29, 2010
Who the f**k cares! The customer ordered it, you get it for them, that's your f**king JOB! If you don't like it quit. But I'm guessing you don't have any real skills to offer so you'll always be working at a restaurant.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Of course you're going to get your tea. But it's human nature to be annoyed. Not like it's a make or break deal for leaving a job. I don't know why people are roid raging over servers venting.
gordon2108Jul 29, 2010
Who cares? Apparently the other customers that have to wait for your tea care, and apparently the waiter who is now tipped less BECAUSE those customers cares actually cares about it.
A restaurant should have hot water on hand IMO, but if not I can see how it would be a bitch. If anything, blame the people in charge of buying equipment.
kwcarpenterJul 29, 2010
If it's THAT BIG of a hassle to provide hot tea, the restaurant shouldn't offer it.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
You also forget that water is essentially free and a teabag cost 2 cents and you are charging me 1.85 for it. So warm it the f**k up and bring it out with a lemon and a smile on your face
joshuau490Jul 29, 2010
to pagemap: your a f**king a**hole. I am actually about to start my second year at Reed College. Reed is third in percentage of its graduates who go on to earn Ph.D.s in all disciplines, after Caltech and Harvey Mudd. And I work as a waiter to pay my own way through school. Keep trolling though, thats productive to society. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_college)
To mkj340: Yeah theres huge profit margins on hot tea, but the waiter doesn't see any of that money it goes to the owner. Which is also why restaurant keep it on the menu.
I'm not saying it's a HUGE deal, it is a little annoying when someone orders tea though.
thereverendbillJul 30, 2010
You know that thing your boss asked you to do last week/month/whatever, that had little or no overall effect on the business as a whole, but required you to drop everything you were doing and tend to it, and mostly threwthe rest of your day off, and you bitched about it all week?
THAT WAS YOUR f**kING JOB.
Doesn't seem unreasonable to bitch about a few things that you hate about work now, does it?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
#21 Despite their nice nature, waiters have some of the worst language. I curse people out after I get a bad tip, you can believe it and I can curse in 3 languages.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
We reserve the worst curses for the stiffers.
mmilitiaJul 29, 2010
Don't order a cup of tea? Jesus Christ...
American waiters never come to England.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
As I mentioned above, tea in American restaurants consists of a cup of hot water and a tea bag. The bag is usually not even IN the hot water. What the hell is so time-consuming about that??
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I hate that! Then the water cools down too much and the tea gets all frothy when you try to steep it. f**k man. Its not rocket science. And screw paying a toonie for a cup of red rose tea. That stuff is s**t. Invest in Tetley Bold, or PG tips, or King cole or even twinnings for god sakes.
kinseyincanadaJul 29, 2010
well you have to get hot water, a plate for the teapot, cup, tea, honey, milk, sugar or whatever. In terms of serving its the most time consuming thing you can do, Wjen your busy you dont have a minute to do all those steps, so it kinda sucks.
incomp3tntJul 29, 2010
@walshgopger: Try Yorkshire Tea. Thank me later.
tj0306Jul 30, 2010
Dugg for yorkshire tea
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
@Incomp3tnt,
Good choice. It's made in my home town. Best tea you'll drink this side of the Orient.
cropimpJul 30, 2010
u pippy mcpip steiners!
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
There's nothing wrong with ordering it. It's just an annoying speed-bump for the server. But hey, it comes with the job.
rorythefaggotJul 29, 2010
There'd be no problem with it in England because they don't depend on tips in England. If someone orders tea it take longer to prepare, which means it takes longer to deliver which makes people think that you're slow and you might risk not getting as much of a tip. In England there's no such issue, you just make the tea.
asielenJul 30, 2010
Exactly. Along those lines, service int he UK is nonexistent. I just spent 6 months there and I couldn't believe how even at nicer restaurants the waiters just basically ignore you. At least compared to US standards.
mrfistyJul 30, 2010
I'm from Melbourne in Australia and I always find these US waiter "insider stories" really curious. You'd be lynched in Melbourne if you served decaf, yesterday's food or powdered eggs (I don't even know what they are). We also don't have tipping as mandatory here. You tip voluntarily if the service or food was really good, but it's not really expected and you'd only do it for places you plan on coming back to, so it's more a relationship building exercise than anything.
I also find it odd there is such an attitude of "don't order this or that at a restaurant". Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a restaurant or cafe or whatever. I think it's perfectly reasonable to order tea at a restaurant.
I recognise hospitality is a tough gig and I always make an effort to be courteous and polite and say thanks when water is poured even if I'm mid-conversation with someone, but really, these articles just make the waiters interviewed sound like unprofessional children. If you don't like it, work in another field.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
"waiters" ? will never hold up for European standard. Especially those old skinny crackheads.Who forgot they not in their twenties anymore.But still dress like that.
Closed AccountAug 13, 2010
I hate the whole American "tip culture", where a tip is seen as part of the price of the drink/meal. I can't stand how you're expected to give a tip for every order - I thought the whole idea of a tip was to reward your waiter for giving you exceptional service?
teamgwhoJul 29, 2010
18: tip on the full amount of the check and not the final amount if you're using a coupon or a GC. This is an easy mistake to make if you're not paying attention, and it sucks when it happens. I went to a new restaurant because I got a GC for them and the waiter actually pointed out on the check where it says precisely this (and even gave the amount of what a 15% tip would be, an 18%, a 20% etc. Figuring tips is actually pretty easy (cut off the last digit and double it and you have 20%, go down if you feel the service warrants less), but it's nice to have that info right there.
zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
The whole point of the coupon is that I probably wouldn't go there unless I had a coupon (here's looking at you, Red Lobster). I don't think there should be an expectation that I tip a greater percentage because I used a coupon to lower my bill. My bill was my bill. The waiter didn't have to spend any of his/her own resources to make the dish.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
The waiter put in the same amount of work serving a meal that used a coupon and that didn't use a coupon. I.e., they used their resource of time/service
mustafyaJul 29, 2010
Who cares. The waiter at IHOP might bust her ass just as much as the waiter at the fancy steak house. I'm not going to tip the IHOP fella the same as the fancy steak house am I?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
If your bill was supposed to be 100. Tip should be 20. Total 120.
If you have a coupon and the bill is now 80. Tip should be 20. Total 100.
YOU STILL SAVE 20 BUCKS. WE PAY TIPSHARE ON THE WHOLE AMOUNT
STOP BEING CHEAP.
zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
Here's a solution. Pay waitstaff a real wage so that tipping isn't as necessary.
My argument about resources has nothing to do with busting their ass or not. The waiter doesn't personally own the ingredients with which my dishes are made from. Whether I order a side salad or Filet Mignon, their job remains the same (place the order, carry the food from the kitchen to my table, ask me how everything is).
The waiter at Denny's probably works just as hard as the waiter at the steakhouse downtown, however, I'm not going to tip them the same dollar amount, but I will tip them the same percentage if the service is good.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
The amount of service you received did not change. In fact, slightly more time was spent having to find the manager to discount the check. It may not seem like much, but when a group is ready for the check quite often they want it immediately. Hunting down the ever-elusive manager can take time. Especially in chains, servers and bartenders don't have the ability to alter a check total.
There are also programs inside the restaurant to rate servers. We have one at my place of employment. They take into consideration comps and voids, and the more you have the more you are frowned upon. I realize coupons are not something that a server should be punished for, but unfortunately they fall in the same category as comping off a beverage because of mistake or complaint.
You're already getting a deal via the coupon. Why be so self-righteous as to think suddenly your server's time is worth less?
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zentraedieliteJul 29, 2010
I still haven't heard an argument to validate why I should tip on the value of the meal BEFORE I applied the coupon. You're saying that because the employee has to find the manager to authorize the coupon that he or she deserves more money? These are still actions that fall within the workflow of the waitresses job. The restaurant issues the coupon as an incentive to bring more customers in. If I hadn't had the coupon, chances are I wouldn't have dined there and she wouldn't be getting any tip in the first place.
I'm not saying that in real world applications I don't give a little bump because I used a coupon.
teamgwhoJul 29, 2010
you're the oner making the argument you should tip less. you need to sustantiate why you shouldn]t.
but I'll play your game.
Let's say you and a friend eat out together. the bill is $100 and your food happens to magically cost $50 and so does his. You tip on $50, (the amount of the food you ate). he tips on $50 (the amount of the food he ate).
new scenario: You go out to eat and the bill is $100 and you've got a $25 gift certificate. so you're going to pay $75 and your friend (who gave you the GC) is paying $25. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE TO TIP BASED ON THE VALUE OF $100 BECAUSE YOU ATE ALL THE FOOD. Is your friend going to add a 20% tip on top of the $25? No! Why does the waiter get stiffed because the check is effectively being split?
Is that so f**king hard to comprehend?
bacon_skodaJul 29, 2010
"iteZentraediElite "
time is money.
you are tipping on the server's time.
you are smart enough to know that.
zentraedieliteJul 30, 2010
Answer this for me then.
You go out to eat and you get a $100 meal. Steak, a bottle of wine, and everything you can think of. All of this food magically comes on one plate. When you're done, you tip 20%, or $20.
Let's say you go out for breakfast the next day and you're not hungry because you ate such a huge meal the night before. You order toast, and it only costs $1. It also comes on one plate. What are you going to tip? Are you going to tip the waitress $20 because you tipped the guy at the steakhouse $20 and the food he brought you was also on one plate? No.
The waitstaff do the same exact job regardless of the quality or quantity of food that you order (with exception for difficult orders, hot tea apparently). Here's an example workflow:
1. Greet customer
2. Take order
3. Place order in kitchen
4. Pick up order from kitchen
5. Deliver order to kitchen
It doesn't matter if it is steak or toast, the waitress doesn't do anything different. When you order the steak it's not like the guy has to drive across town to the slaughterhouse to kill the cow, take it to the butcher to have him cut it, then bring the meat back so he can cook it.
teamgwhoJul 30, 2010
Im notice you don't argue with anything I said. I'm not sure if this means you understand or are confused. You are now moving the goalposts by introducing an entirely different rational for tipping less then what is customary. First you said you should tip based on what you pay. not the amount of the bill, but what you pay. now you are saying something entirely different, that a person should be tipped the same amount regardless of the amount of the bill.
That said, the answer to your question is YES. I tip LESS in the 2nd scenario.
I do not understand why you are trying to complicate a simple process. Whether you like it or not, the process is this: total bill X 15%. or 20 or 10. But it's a percentage of the total bill you rang up. Whether you actually have to pay less is not relevant. Now you may feel tipping is stupid. And that's fine, Mr Pink, you're entitled to an opinion. I may not agree with your opnion, but that's what opinions are all about. What's not ok is for you to re-define what's customary. Don't tell me that tips are SUPPOSED to be based on what you actually pay. Don't tell me the process is "all servers deserve a $5 tip whether the bill is $1 or $100" . Admit you don't follow the standard process because of whatever reason.
But the normal process still remains for you to tip between 10 and 20% of the total bill based on what level of service you received. Anything else is your belief.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bemenakerJul 29, 2010
I can flat out tell I have seen some nasty stuff done to peoples food in my years of waiting tables. If that thought scares you, don't be an assh**e. It's not about complaining, it's about being rude to people. In most cases where I've seen it, it was from regulars who were regular assh**es.
rattusrattusJul 29, 2010
I wondered why it always took for f**king ever to get food at the one restaurant I went to with my sister's family, until my dad told me her husband tips a grand total of f**k all. I imagine they go there enough that the waitstaff doesn't care.
mikeoxbiggJul 29, 2010
CALORIES
Having been a waiter my Freshman year, my biggest pet-peeve was people asking me for calorie counts. Those are, oddly enough, never fit/slim/healthy people.
"How many calories are in your triple brownie cheesecake with chocolate drizzle?" 250-pound woman.
"I'm afraid I don't know, mam."
"Well could you find out; I'm not eating something whose value I don't know anything about."
...What do you answer to that?
"More than you can afford, you goddamn cow"
jjeffers88Jul 29, 2010
I also find that these same people drink diet soda products... as if it is going to dissolve the near-fatal amount of food they just ingested.
sd70macmanJul 29, 2010
Dugg up for "near-fatal amount of food".
robotbananaJul 30, 2010
Please, everyone knows that diet Coke is negative calories. Drink two of those babies and you're ready to knock back at least three cheesecakes.
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
^^ Thanks for the laughs guys. I was laughing at all of your comments. Damn good.
kwcarpenterJul 29, 2010
When I was first trying to lose weight, I might have asked that, but definitely not about something that is clearly fattening. By the time someone has lost enough weight to actually BE skinny (not there yet, but close!), there's a good chance they can judge it for themselves and won't need to ask.
If that woman was truly trying to lose weight, though, she wouldn't have even asked about that heaping of fat & sugar, because she'd know she couldn't afford it.
As an aside, I drink diet pop a LOT because I used to drink a lot of regular pop, but for people who are gulping over 1500 calories in one meal, another 170 for that regular mountain dew isn't going to make the difference.
iamthejmanJul 29, 2010
Stop drinking pop altogether. It will do you so much good.
kwcarpenterJul 29, 2010
That's what I keep hearing.
kwcarpenterJul 29, 2010
I know, I know ... but I mean ... if they're already gulping down a ridiculous amount, they're gonna gain weight regardless of if they have that pop diet or not.
sindexJul 29, 2010
Generally speaking if people need to ask about the calorie/fat/what have you content of a food item, they know damn well that they shouldn't be having it.
asforonedayJul 29, 2010
How is that strange? Aren't fat people are the people most likely to be on a diet (and therefore, ask for the calorie count)? I know it seems strange to ask about a double fudge choco-mountain sundae but for anything that isn't that obvious, it seems perfectly legitimate.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
This is your correct answer:"get a f**king salad you fat bitch!"
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ianmgullJul 29, 2010
yeah, well the ocean called... and their running outta you!
EDIT... f**k
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ratherredJul 29, 2010
OH SNAP SON
miserylingersJul 29, 2010
Yeah.. hate it when waiters put the drink right in front of your face. It's like, i'm gonna have a plate here in a moment, so shouldn't it be, "over there"?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thebigbadJul 29, 2010
Then move it you lazy f**k.
mustafyaJul 29, 2010
I had a waitress once who kept putting my utensils and drink on my right side. I would move them to my left and the next time she came to the table she moved them back to the right.
Two things she learned that night:
1) I'm left handed so please stop doing that
2) Surprise! No tip for you!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
noncn4mstJul 29, 2010
dick
ktownreject0358Jul 29, 2010
I like to think I'm a generous tipper.
tadghostal66Jul 29, 2010
I like to think you are, too.
wakkyweedJul 29, 2010
Your perception of reality and actual reality may not be the same thing, of course.
harmorJul 29, 2010
I reject your reality and substitute my own
aquapeteJul 29, 2010
i'm actually fairly positive that i'm a generous tipper.
tangytengJul 29, 2010
everyone thinks they're being a generous tipper
I thought so too, until I actually looked at my receipts and realizing I was averaging 12% (issue has been corrected)
maybe b/c my Chinese parents tip 5% I think I'm sacrificing so much more. Cheapness has to be genetic
wakkyweedJul 29, 2010
I know I'm a generous tipper, because I always leave a minimum of 15%, and usually 20-25%. Working in the food industry makes you more aware of such things.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Excellent! You continue to tip generously so I don't have to.
ganjamonstaJul 31, 2010
die in a ditch
tadghostal66Jul 29, 2010
lol - article should read "20 Secrets Your Waiter Won't Tell You, but Will Tell Reader's Digest, Often While Using Their Full Names"
or maybe, "Ways to Get 20+ Hits Per Person Per Visit on Your Website"
stanleyfordJul 29, 2010
"The single greatest way to get your waiter to hate you? Ask for hot tea." -- Just do your damn job. If you don't like making tea for people, don't be a waiter. Stop complaining as if I have some sort of responsibility to make your job easier for you.
ganjamonstaJul 31, 2010
I'll just make him wait 5 or more minutes for his hot tea and go serve the next table.
aplusjimagesJul 29, 2010
This list isn't that bad. I thought it would include things like, "yes the 5 second rule applies.", "If you send it back, we don't throw it away, instead we give it to the next customer", "we definitely spit in your food."
bdbrJul 29, 2010
Having worked as a waiter for a few years, I was glad to finally see an article that didn't buy into the myth of spitting in food. I never saw anyone do that either.
buffaloburgerJul 29, 2010
There are many other factors beyond your waiters control that contribute to the level of service you receive. If your going to be a cheap assh**e and not tip, McDonald's is right down the street.
BTW in many areas in the country the wait staff make $2.13 an hour which go entirely to taxes so as a waiter when you get no tip off of a table, you actually loose money.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
So what you're saying is that it is my job to pay staff, rather than their employer?
Remind me never to go to a restaurant in the US.
hurricanedcJul 29, 2010
It sucks but yep that's how it is.
All this tipping bulls**t would be easily solved if waiters were paid minimum wage or higher.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I get a little frustrated when people complain about this. It's empowering to me, as a guest in a restaurant or bar, to know I can determine how much someone is going to get paid. Every server is different, and having an exceptionally great one can make your entire night more entertaining and pleasant. Having a lousy one can ruin an entire experience, and poison your impression of a restaurant or bar. By tipping you can reward the good and punish the bad. It's an instant feedback system. If a server isn't good at their job they simply don't make enough money to get by. They see that they'd be better off behind the counter at The Gap, and off to The Gap they go. The person who makes good money sees no reason to leave the business, and is there to make your night awesome the next time you come in. If that doesn't matter to you I'm sure there are places you can go to bark out your order and have it brought to you, end of night. Just please don't ruin it for the rest of us who like having fun when we go out.
If you prefer to pay everyone a flat wage I'm afraid there will be no motivation to go above and beyond when working as a server or bartender. When you've got other things competing for your time the last thing you are going to want to do is extra work free of charge. Don't turn us into cashiers at Walmart, or DMV workers. And don't kid yourself, that's what it would become. It's an extremely stressful job, and it takes a lot of dignity to serve someone else. It can be degrading at times, and uncomfortable. If there wasn't that motivation (tip, baby!) to keep on your happy face and bust your ass, servers and bartenders would easily be on the same level as many other customer service industry workers in temperament and attitude. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
There's a difference between incentive and wage. I will reward those who make my experience better but how much their basic wage is should not have any bearing on that. It is not my concern what a server earns and as such it is most assuredly not my responsibility to support them.
As for tipping bar tenders, that's not something I do, or have seen my friends do, here in the UK.
spacemanspiff22Jul 29, 2010
At any decent restaurant a waiter is making some rather serious bank considering the job requires no education and they NEVER properly report their income for tax purposes. A waiter can easily make the equivalent of $50k or more which is insane, in my opinion.
When you say they "loose [sic] money," you're comparing it to the amount they would make if everyone tipped what restaurants consider the acceptable amount, not what other non-skilled, no education required jobs pay.
mustafyaJul 29, 2010
Go here (http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm)
This is the minimum wage table for tipped jobs.
Let's pretend you are a waiter in California.
According to Federal Law you are required to be paid $8.00/hour minimum whether a tipped employee or not.
Ok now pretend you are from my home-state (Arkansas).
Minimum wage for a tipped employee is $4.25/hour + a tip credit of up to $3. That means if you don't average $3/hour in tips then you get the difference on your paycheck. Thus ensuring you always get paid at least minimum wage.
user500Jul 29, 2010
Mcdonalds pays 7.25 so maybe your at the wrong job
corinthosJul 29, 2010
Then get another line of work. I have waited tables twice in a city of 200k and one of 80k. I never made less than 14 an hour. Sure you get light tippers but you get big ones to even it out.
missinglinkJul 29, 2010
How to be a good customer? STFU. I'm the customer, which means if I pay, I'm good.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Yeah just keep thinking you are on top of things. Hint: When you eat out or order in you are no longer god. We are.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Yeah, a real god. Who is dependent on the customer to make any money.
athinnesJul 29, 2010
Without us you wouldn't have a job so yeah, STFU.
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
How about you be a "God" on your own time there champ.
kinseyincanadaJul 29, 2010
no your just a customer, theres a huge difference between the two.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
How's the weather up your own ass?
coreyfcJul 29, 2010
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I never ever mind leaving a Tip, especially if the waiter/waitress has done their job well. What I do have a problem, is with is this social stigma of tip expectancy. For f**k sakes, I'm eating out to pay for my food, not for your wages. I could easily go to the kitchen window and yell, "chicken and fries! Oh... and some water!"
tbr2007Jul 29, 2010
Exactly, luckily here in the UK tipping isn't really expected (in my experience) and I've never felt 'guilt tripped' into tipping.
flamekebabJul 29, 2010
Precisely. If we're going out to eat, we're paying the listed price. If the staff do a great job, they get a bonus. We're not going to pay the serving staff's wages, that's their employer's responsibility.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Consider yourselves lucky TBR2007. Not only are we "guilt tripped", but most if not all, of our debit machines come up with "TIP?" option automatically, even at the f**king gas stations.
Might as well be panhandling.
esteskidJul 29, 2010
"We're not going to pay the serving staff's wages, that's their employer's responsibility."
Not in America. They get paid ~$2.85 an hour because tips are expected. It's the only type of business that can pay its employees less than minimum wage because the tips they'd potentially get will put them over minimum wage. It's pretty much bulls**t.
But then again, if you work at an expensive restaurant you can get tipped like a mother f**ker.
amerijguyJul 29, 2010
There are restaurants like that. You order your s**t, you pick it up, you get your own refills. You should only patronize them if tipping offends your sensibilities so much. Put your money where your mouth is.
And you'd be paying more either way. If tipping is removed, food prices would increase 10-15% to compensate for the higher outlays from the restaurant. Or there'd be less wait staff and you'd get slower/s**ttier service. It's give and take.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
"If tipping is removed, food prices would increase 10-15% to compensate for the higher outlays from the restaurant."
And this is a problem because....? I have zero problem with seeing the true price of my meal on the menu rather than a cost which has been artificially lowered to make it seem like it's a "better deal." Gods forbid that restaurant OWNERS be forced to pay their staff an honest wage, rather than shoving that responsibility onto their customers.
dist0rtedwaveJul 29, 2010
While I can agree that it is nice to see the actual price, it is also good to allow the customer to choose to reward or punish the waiter depending on the quality of service. On my trip to Europe (this was only one, so it could be unusual/because I'm american) the waiters just didn't seem as friendly or as quick because they were going to be paid the same regardless of how well they did their job.
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
"allow the customer to choose to reward or punish the waiter depending on the quality of service."
or you could just tell the manager.
amerijguyJul 30, 2010
Whiskey, no one said it was a problem. Just a statement.
heathurJul 29, 2010
If you want to go to a window and yell for your food, go to freaking McDonald's. The fact is, when you go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant, you pay for service as well. I've waited tables for four years at a couple different places. The servers make $2.33 per hour at almost every restaurant you're likely to go to, which is fine by me because I've always found that I can make well above minimum wage, as can any decent server. If tipping was removed as the primary means of income for the servers, however, I feel as though the service would not be as good. Money is motivation. I would (and do) bust my ass for my customers so that they will leave me good tips. Why would I try harder to impress my customers if I were not getting paid by them? That's not to say I wouldn't do my job properly, but I certainly wouldn't give greater effort for no promise of a greater reward.
user500Jul 29, 2010
and the McDonald's the staff make 7.25 an hour. Think about that Mr genus. Even with that I can have my order in minutes and not blow a days wages.
1b2aJul 30, 2010
That's great. If you bust your ass I'll tip you. If you don't I won't. Is there any contention with what you're arguing against "Heathur"
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
No one is arguing with you. I am not saying tips should be removed, I'm saying I don't enjoy feeling 'obligated'.
Most times, I go into a restaurant, the waitress comes over, brings a menu and asks if we would like drinks. Then takes our orders, brings us our food and will ask if everything is ok. When we're finishes he/she will take our plates and gives the bill. All of which is supposed to warrant a tip? As if it's just expected?
I don't know if i missed something, but are these not the duties of the job?
If I met someone like yourself, who made the time enjoyable and pleasant, I have no reservations in giving you a tip for your time.
BUT..
IMO the "tip" has mutated it's meaning. Instead of being viewed as an option; a way to show appreciation for your waiter/ress. It is becoming an expectancy for just what you were hired for.
I'm aware that this is a touchy subject. To be honest, most times I simply tip to avoid looking cheap. -_-
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
the tax system is now setup where if you tip less than expected, the waiter is actually losing money.
078gestasJul 29, 2010
I think it has to do a lot with the prices of restaurants in America, in Europe pricing is completely different.
In Europe the prices of restaurants are way higher. And the tip expectancy is way lower. Usualy you just round up the amount. Or some extra if you had good service. But never the 20%, certainly not at a middle-class(+) restaurant.
In America on the other hand, eating at a restaurant, is almost cheaper than buying the groceries yourself. But with the tip expectancy, it evens out.
user500Jul 29, 2010
What do you eat? 14-20 for a pizza from at restaurants or 3-4 bucks each from wal-mart and my oven works 24/7 no tips no drive.
The closest pizza joint is $14 for a 14 in Pizza (and not a good one) plus $2 for a drink city and state taxes and a tip.
Wal-mart $2.50 (sale price) on 12 in pizzas which I bought 3 and a 24 pack of coke for $6
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
$2.50 for a 12" pizza????
this reminds me of that $0.99 beer (drinks cautiously)...
for a Six-pack (spits out) from Reno-911.
jjidiJul 30, 2010
Go to Japan. Tipping doesn't exist over there. My parents left a tip on the table our first week there and they came running to us in the parking lot to give us the money back.
amerijguyJul 30, 2010
And the service, while being incredibly friendly (because you have to search for a rude person in service in the first place, especially if you're foreign) isn't always the most prompt. You also rarely have drink service included, you get up and get your own drinks at most common joints. Which isn't really my favorite thing to do.
bigviJul 29, 2010
"What We Want You to Know
In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters.
—Christopher Fehlinger "
If the waiter cared about his teammates he would have done a better job.
mrsteamtankJul 29, 2010
Whatever...Waiter's make good money for a relatively low-skill job so they shouldn't really complain. My sister worked at swiss chalet(considered to be a low tip restaurant) and she got easily double minimum wage meanwhile I worked at some other random no skill job and got minimum doing work far more disgusting.
drekorJul 29, 2010
being a young woman helps in the tip department. being a 35 year-old guy does not.
mrsteamtankJul 30, 2010
I'm talking about similar ages. One of her first jobs was as a waitress. One of my first jobs was working at Wendy's. Regardless, my point is that Waiters make good money. And I'm aware that a good looking woman at the right restaurant will make a KILLING in tips but she was at a family restaurant where that matters less.
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
the best tips i've heard are at banquets.
working two shifts would make more than a software engineer.
drekorJul 30, 2010
You made over $100,000 per year as a waiter? Screw this engineering gig, where do I sign up?
bacon_skodaJul 31, 2010
Look for hotels that do banquets. Like Chinese weddings banquets. Be part of the top crew with the higher seniority butler as they usually get first dibs on which job to wait on. Then do that again for your 2nd shift.
Six figures without a degree. And they get a head start while we take 4 years of schooling.
chadsexingtimeJul 29, 2010
This was a pretty poor article. Pretty much everything in there made sense, but the last 5 tips or so were about 'being a good customer', which wasnt really related.
While im rambling, I dislike the 15% tipping thing. Its not that I dont want to give 15%, its just that it seems arbitrary. If I go to an expensive restaurant and pay $30/plate, why should the waiter who brought it to me make any more in tips than a place thats $15/plate?
It makes no sense.
Also tipping for a bottle of beer is irritating. Congrats on bending over. Have a dollar.
adamandeveitJul 29, 2010
Well aren't we all glad you don't work in the rent boy industry, otherwise your last two sentences would cripple everything.
hurricanedcJul 29, 2010
Seriously, someone please explain that to me. I can understand a higher tip if he brings out two plates totaling $30. But why does he get a higher tip for bringing out one plate totaling $30 when it takes the same effort on his part a a plate that totals $15?
user500Jul 29, 2010
or a $2 cup of soup vs a $20 dinner. The system is F'd up.
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
i assume at higher price restaurants, you get pickier customers. people probably send food back and forth more on expensive places.
radrock1Jul 29, 2010
Servers at more expensive restaurants are better and more experienced. Why shouldn't they get more?
chadsexingtimeJul 29, 2010
I've worked in the food industry before, and I tend to tip more than 15%. My point is that you have two people who are doing the exact same job, yet one is entitled to be given more for no reason whatsoever.
@radrock : your comment makes absolutely zero sense, and I can assure you, is completely false.
wayloreJul 29, 2010
I see the dollar tip for beer not the retrieval itself but for putting up with me while i drink.
data1001Jul 29, 2010
And be glad you don't live in Vegas (I'm assuming), where you tip for almost EVERYTHING.
/have worked in the service industry for tips, and always tip at least 20%, but still wish tipping wasn't necessary
bacon_skodaJul 30, 2010
i wish tips in those places would just be $1 or $2 (whatever) each trip.
I don't care about the amount. i like simple.
what i don't like is being seen as under tipping when i have no intention of doing it.
ganjamonstaJul 31, 2010
try not tipping for your beer. see how quick you get the next one.
russ3Jul 29, 2010
i have popup blocker but really they want old people to use a site with a popup from every slide?
necrozimJul 29, 2010
in the UK tipping is less signifcant compared to America, but one thing that pissed me off royaly was when the waiters outfront would get a f**king massive tip because the food that was cooked was delcious... they brought the food to the table!! the tips where i worked were not given to the kitchen staff and the justification was that the kitchen staff got paid more per hour to compensate... I got paid 20p more per hour, so over the evening i would earn £2 more yet the waiters would walk away with £30+ in tips from the same length or shorter shift as the kitchen staff had to clean the entire kitchen while cleaners came in to clean the front of house ¬_¬ hrmph!
is this the same in America?
hurricanedcJul 29, 2010
I don't know the exact wages but supposedly waiters get paid far below minimum wage (some say $2/hr) since they get tips while cooks etc get at the very least minimum wage, which is generally at least like $6/hr if not higher.
linkymonkeyJul 29, 2010
Yeah, that s**t's illegal in the UK, hence less tip culture. No one *ever* tips in England unless the waiter outright fellates you or something.
shaunywJul 30, 2010
Not true I'm English and I tip every time I eat out, even when the food/service sucks! It would be bad manners not to.
asielenJul 30, 2010
@shaunyw
Even at a pub?
newesJul 29, 2010
It's true in my experiance as a former cook in an american diner. We were a very small breakfast and lunch place but had incredibly high traffic. On a saturday or sunday a waitress could easily pull down $200 in tips sometimes even up to $300, while I as a cook made $80-$100. We had high traffic because our food was so good not because we had good service.
necrozimJul 29, 2010
I share your pain :( well not any more, I quit.. but thats not the point.
kinseyincanadaJul 29, 2010
Kitchen usually gets a percentage of what the server sells, in my experience its between 2-5% of what they sell.
brewbeauJul 29, 2010
There is the flip side of this where the cooks get paid the same no matter what day or time they are working, whereas the servers don't. And to add insult to injury, if it's dead and they don't send the server home then the server has to start cleaning s**t to stay busy at very low hourly pay.
robestylesJul 29, 2010
I have issue with this:
"In many restaurants, the tips are pooled, so if you have a bad experience with the server, you’re stiffing the bartender who made your drinks, the water boy who poured your water, sometimes the hostess, the food runners, and maybe the other waiters."
No I am not stiffing the others. The bad server is stiffing the others. Your gripe is with him for causing your tip pool to be lower.
clippclopJul 29, 2010
It's also very made up. There are *very* few restaurants where tips are pooled, and if they are pooled, it's usually shared among the servers. Typically the other staff will be paid a higher wage than the servers, but the servers will get tips to make up (usually greatly surpass) the difference.
This is nothing more than a waiter created rumor in order to make you feel bad about not giving a 15% tip every single time.
If you are a terrible waiter/ress, you are not going to get a tip. That is all there is too it.
x0mb13Jul 29, 2010
this is nonsense anyways, if you need more money take it up with your employer, don't put that s**t on me the customer. No one else working their ass off is getting tips, and you deserve extra because you carried some food to me in an air conditioned restaurant? You did the job you were hired to do so you think you should get some immediate reward?
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speedyrevJul 29, 2010
Hot Tea? Not a problem. Most coffee makers have a hot water spout. There's no effort to boiling water.
Skim Milk? You're less likely to get 2%. I keep whole and skim stocked at my cafe.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
I don't get why it's "impractical" to keep several types of milk around. A long-established restaurant should have a pretty good idea of how much of what type of food will be required for any given day. So it costs your restaurant an extra $20 a day in wasted milk to keep your customers satisfied - if that little will make or break your bottom line, your business is deep kimchi anyway. It's MILK, people, not saffron or truffles!!
levelwaveJul 29, 2010
That's $600 a month wasted... you don't run a successful business by wasting money... any of it.
thealliedhackerJul 30, 2010
And if the only way you can make money is by lying about what's in the food, then please feel free to do the species a favor by dying in a fire.
nighthwk1Jul 29, 2010
Most coffee shops only keep skim and whole milk -- if someone requests 2%, you just mix the two.
zoomigoJul 30, 2010
Well, whole milk on the average is about 3%, so why bother with the whole/low/non fat stuff in the first place?
http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/collectedinfo/milkinformation.htm
I buy my milk from a local dairy co-op, and get the extra-rich. mmm... 4% milk fat. Good stuff. And I like the flavor.
Now, if you are severely obese, or have poor metabolism, then it might be a concern, but a healthy, active adult can consume just about anything in moderation.
tawneyJul 29, 2010
Honestly, I don't believe in tipping. I do it because society tells me to, but I don't see why I have to. I work as a cashier at a very busy store, working just as hard as a bartender or waitress would, and I've never been tipped, nor do I want to be. Why pay someone extra for a job they're already being paid to do? I prefer the Japanese opinion on tipping, where it's considered insulting to offer someone a tip for simply doing their job correctly.
hurricanedcJul 29, 2010
The only reason I tip is because waiters can get paid less than minimum wage. I know how much it blows to make even minimum wage so that's why.
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
Isn't that illegal?
bdbrJul 29, 2010
I think it would be better if every service job gets paid based on how well (or poorly) they do their job.
Problem is, restaurant tipping is often based on how quickly the food is prepared, or how good it tastes. The waiter has no control over these things (other than complaining when the food isn't coming fast enough).
dennisdeetlebonJul 29, 2010
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
(I couldn't help but think of Mr. Pink when I read your comment)
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Its because that's where he get's his dumbass belief from.
carpeicthusJul 29, 2010
You do it because otherwise they make $2 an hour.
laserethJul 29, 2010
Because waiters and waitresses make $2 an hour? Did you do research before you came to this holier than thou conclusion or just spam it out? You don't "believe" in tipping because you're ignorant of the law, and the law says waiters and waitresses can be paid below minimum wage, and they are. They rely on tips to make even minimum wage.
helchezJul 29, 2010
You're an idiot.
worldofsmutAug 9, 2010
So I shouldn't have tipped that Japanese masseuse for giving me a handjob?
soc7Jul 29, 2010
Not a waiter. But in all the restaurants I cooked or was the chef we had no five second rule. If a food item hit the floor it either went in the garbage without a second thought or one of the cooks would wash whatever it was off and save it for his lunch or his family pet.
ciarJul 29, 2010
it's sad that this is newsworthy
idontevenJul 29, 2010
He's keeping secrets from me? That mother f**ker
xkorbinJul 30, 2010
you win.
tgc1Jul 30, 2010
I'm guessing you're not going to give him a tip huh? LOL.
densternyJul 29, 2010
Whew, at least there was nothing in the article about feces, urine, spit or semen being added to your food by irate servers.