theweek.com— Tom Hanks says another installment might be in the works, prompting outcry from fans who thought number three was a perfect ending
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I was a bit skeptical when TS3 was announced. That one seemed to be just a grab for money, but it turned out to a great movie and a great end to that story. There's no need to continue with those characters except to make money. I'm sure Pixar could come up with a good story for a 4th installment and it would likely be very entertaining but at this point just let it rest. Time to come up with something new. Personally, I'd like to see Pixar develop something with the style of Final Fantasy.
LOL. I wonder if he knows that the FInal Fantasy movies almost killed the company. Why would you want ot make a movie in the style of a dev house that almost went broke making a HUGE flop?
I've only seen The Spirits Within and that story sucked but I still really like the animation.
I love Pixar movies, but I'd like to see them do something with characters that are styled more realistically, or tackle something more adult oriented.
Have you seen kids movies? I don't think I've ever seen a kids movie that wasn't full of adult humor/jokes/themes. You just have to be an adult to pick up on them
Part of the reason TS3 succeeded is that the right people ended up on board. Disney had basically threatened that they would make a third Toy Story whether it had Pixar's blessing or not, and eventually the right people "gave in" and came on board with the project.
In a way, you could say they were extorted, though I'm sure a lot of those people made a bunch of money themselves in the process.
"I was a bit skeptical when TS3 was announced. That one seemed to be just a grab for money, "
Funny, that's what I thought about 2... However before I ever saw any previews of TS3 I was told it was coming and I groaned... then they said "Andy's going to college" and I was on board and NEEDED to see the movie.
Personally I think TS4 would be gilding the lily... They did a great job and it's time to move on to other franchises (or better yet create more, they don't seem to be wanting for ideas...)
They could take the fourth movie in a different direction, leaving Buzz & Woody as ancillary characters in the new world that is Lilly & the day-care center.
That would leave the original three movies to stand on their own.
Toy Story 4 would totally ruin the franchise. It is perfect as it is. A great trilogy.
Disney should have learned that expanding trilogies doesn't work. Remember Pirates of the Caribbean 4? It sucked.
Stop while you're ahead.
I'm sure they can make some nice sequels, but with original stories so rare these days it is sad to see Pixar go the same way as the rest of the movie industry. Of Pixar's first 10 films, only one was a sequel. then we get Toy Story 3, Cars 2, Brave (perhaps the last non pre/sequel,) and Monster University. Pixar has gone from rarely making sequels to almost exclusively making them.
In my opinion there shouldn't be any more TS movies. Short films would work amazing though. Pixar always has short films before every movie so why not have one or a few to check in on Woody and the gang?
Possibly, but I'm not about to jump on the "Pixar's going downhill" bandwagon. Their track record for putting out top quality flicks is excellent, and it will take a lot more than a single poorly reviewed movie from them to make me question their ability. If they do move forward with a TS4, I feel confident that it would be up to their normal high standards. That said, I would rather see them focus on more original IPs.
They beat the odds with three solid movies. Four would be pushing it. Off the top of my head the only other solid trilogy I can think of is the Bourne movies, and arguably Back to the Future.
Though some would say either the first three Indiana Jones or first Star Wars trilogy. Though I personally wasn't big on Temple of Doom and many hate Return of the Jedi.
I think they should just leave it at 3... I like seeing pixar films because they didn't repeat themselves over and over.. now the seem to be falling into the Disney trap.
I for one would like to see them keep there perfect score of profitable films.
Beating a horse till it's dead is not the way to do it.
The way that I see it is you never know until you try. If the fourth one sucks it doesn't make the first three any less great, so why not give it a go?
People feel it would destroy the arc that the stumbled into with Toy Story, the story was about Andy's toys but Andy growing up gives great context to the story, its about various stages in ones life and the last one was about being shuffled off into a retirement home and finding that they still do have uses even tho they are past their prime. There really should be no more stories after that I feel.
Take for example Supernatural. It is a show that had a 5 year story arc, it had pretty much the perfect ending to the story but it got renewed for a 6th season so they changed it and kept going, the new stuff is enjoyable but it changed the context of the ending that was written and preformed (the last 3 seconds of the season 5 finale was clearly added in because they got renewed) and thus the whole story. A sense of completeness adds a great deal more to a story then some pretty good additional stories, imo.
Polysyllabic answer: Pixar is a good company that looks to be starting a bad run. You went to a Pixar movie for the fancy computer graphics. You stayed and enjoyed it for the original stories and compelling characters they created. Toy Story was lucky enough to support two sequels. Cars is not. They shouldn't push their luck with sequels.
Spinoffs and shorts are a different story though. Mater's Tall Tales, Presto, Lifted, Partly Cloudy, and Burn-E are all just as enjoyable as the full features. That's a lesson they can learn from Dreamworks. Some of their characters might be better suited for TV.
Did God Father 3 ruin the first two Godfathers? Did the prequel of Star Wars movie ruin the original 3? Did Exorcist 2, 3, etc ruin The Exorcist?
No. If they suck, you just ignore them. I do not like Godfather 1 & 2 any less because Godfather 3 wasn't up to par. I do not like the original Star Wars trilogy any less because of the crappy prequels.
Sometimes, it's that bold action that gives us some great movie. Toy Story 2 was going to be direct to dvd/tape and yet it was amazing. Toy Story 3 wasn't almost made and yet it may have been the best of the trilogy. What if they decided not to make T2, Aliens, Godfather 2, Empire Strike Backs, etc....we would have missed out on some classic cinema.
TO answer your question, yes Godfather III and your other examples tarnished the original work by changing its context .I think The Matrix is the best example of this. Matrix 2 and 3 absolutely trashed the lovely setup from Matrix 1, and in the process greatly diminished it.
All that said if they do a TS4 before an Incredibles 2, im gonna be bent
I just choose to ignore the crappy ones and accept the good ones. I've never seen Matrix 3 (part 2 was so bad I wasn't interested in part 3) and to me I see Matrix and Matrix only....the sequels don't 'exist' to me.
When I think of Terminator, I only see part 1 & 2. The other 2 are not part of my memory of the terminator franchise. I was able to accept T2 because it was great AND it fit in with the continuation of part 1.
Number three was a perfect setup for another generation of great "toy story" movies. The new "toy story" short at the beginning of cars was epic. One of their best. They can go for as long as pixar continues to fork over the big bucks for great story people.
I do think the sequel won't do justice to the fans and watchers after perfectly ending it previously. It's like if Tolkien wrote another Lord of the Rings book; you simply can't do it. The Toy Story saga is pretty much designed to stay as is.
On the other hand, wether they do it or the don't, I think it will be well recieved by the other public that these newswriters aren't speaking about: kids. I think that is an important point too, since Pixar is always trying to innovate, what I think is that they're trying to reach an audience conformed by the new generations, and it is vital for the company to stay alive. Let's say that I won't be bothered if they do release the movie, I think that moving on is an important part of the deal, and, as other Toy Story fans here will agree, there's nothing like falling in love with a film. I think that we won't be too dissapointed, and if we were, it wouldn't matter as much. I do trust Pixar.
markusfarkusJun 29, 2011
I was a bit skeptical when TS3 was announced. That one seemed to be just a grab for money, but it turned out to a great movie and a great end to that story. There's no need to continue with those characters except to make money. I'm sure Pixar could come up with a good story for a 4th installment and it would likely be very entertaining but at this point just let it rest. Time to come up with something new. Personally, I'd like to see Pixar develop something with the style of Final Fantasy.
jerroldsJun 29, 2011
Have you watched any of the Final Fantasy movies? It is a slap in the face to Pixar to even have have that name associated with their movies.
While agree that TS3 was the perfect ending to the brand.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spire3660Jun 29, 2011
LOL. I wonder if he knows that the FInal Fantasy movies almost killed the company. Why would you want ot make a movie in the style of a dev house that almost went broke making a HUGE flop?
markusfarkusJun 29, 2011
I've only seen The Spirits Within and that story sucked but I still really like the animation.
I love Pixar movies, but I'd like to see them do something with characters that are styled more realistically, or tackle something more adult oriented.
spire3660Jun 29, 2011
ok maybe i was trolling you a bit, you just used the worst possible example.
goweigusJun 30, 2011
Have you seen kids movies? I don't think I've ever seen a kids movie that wasn't full of adult humor/jokes/themes. You just have to be an adult to pick up on them
goweigusJun 30, 2011
sry I don't mean to imply you or anyone else is not an adult*
I realize they could go more adult, it would be cool but it won't happen I think.
seroevoJun 29, 2011
Part of the reason TS3 succeeded is that the right people ended up on board. Disney had basically threatened that they would make a third Toy Story whether it had Pixar's blessing or not, and eventually the right people "gave in" and came on board with the project.
In a way, you could say they were extorted, though I'm sure a lot of those people made a bunch of money themselves in the process.
trdrstvJun 30, 2011
"I was a bit skeptical when TS3 was announced. That one seemed to be just a grab for money, "
Funny, that's what I thought about 2... However before I ever saw any previews of TS3 I was told it was coming and I groaned... then they said "Andy's going to college" and I was on board and NEEDED to see the movie.
Personally I think TS4 would be gilding the lily... They did a great job and it's time to move on to other franchises (or better yet create more, they don't seem to be wanting for ideas...)
Unregistered_CowardJun 30, 2011
They could take the fourth movie in a different direction, leaving Buzz & Woody as ancillary characters in the new world that is Lilly & the day-care center.
That would leave the original three movies to stand on their own.
smurfzJun 29, 2011
All about the money unfortunately.
djstratJun 29, 2011
Yes, they don't need another one!
Closed AccountJun 29, 2011
No. I want more.
jaimequinJun 29, 2011
They have to make up for this: http://i.imgur.com/9FuaF.png
tycneroJun 30, 2011
I haven't seen TS3 and I saw TS2 in HS french class, so I have no dog in this fight Alls I want to know is where the Christ is my Incredibles 2??
Closed AccountJun 29, 2011
Toy Story 4 would totally ruin the franchise. It is perfect as it is. A great trilogy.
Disney should have learned that expanding trilogies doesn't work. Remember Pirates of the Caribbean 4? It sucked.
Stop while you're ahead.
esc27Jun 29, 2011
Goodbye Pixar. It was nice while it lasted.
I'm sure they can make some nice sequels, but with original stories so rare these days it is sad to see Pixar go the same way as the rest of the movie industry. Of Pixar's first 10 films, only one was a sequel. then we get Toy Story 3, Cars 2, Brave (perhaps the last non pre/sequel,) and Monster University. Pixar has gone from rarely making sequels to almost exclusively making them.
wildcardz12Jun 29, 2011
In my opinion there shouldn't be any more TS movies. Short films would work amazing though. Pixar always has short films before every movie so why not have one or a few to check in on Woody and the gang?
rogue100Jun 29, 2011
Possibly, but I'm not about to jump on the "Pixar's going downhill" bandwagon. Their track record for putting out top quality flicks is excellent, and it will take a lot more than a single poorly reviewed movie from them to make me question their ability. If they do move forward with a TS4, I feel confident that it would be up to their normal high standards. That said, I would rather see them focus on more original IPs.
seroevoJun 29, 2011
They beat the odds with three solid movies. Four would be pushing it. Off the top of my head the only other solid trilogy I can think of is the Bourne movies, and arguably Back to the Future.
seroevoJun 29, 2011
Though some would say either the first three Indiana Jones or first Star Wars trilogy. Though I personally wasn't big on Temple of Doom and many hate Return of the Jedi.
kerwinsteJun 29, 2011
I want more.
zbeastJun 29, 2011
I think they should just leave it at 3... I like seeing pixar films because they didn't repeat themselves over and over.. now the seem to be falling into the Disney trap.
I for one would like to see them keep there perfect score of profitable films.
Beating a horse till it's dead is not the way to do it.
dumass4uJun 29, 2011
The way that I see it is you never know until you try. If the fourth one sucks it doesn't make the first three any less great, so why not give it a go?
darkphenoxJun 29, 2011
People feel it would destroy the arc that the stumbled into with Toy Story, the story was about Andy's toys but Andy growing up gives great context to the story, its about various stages in ones life and the last one was about being shuffled off into a retirement home and finding that they still do have uses even tho they are past their prime. There really should be no more stories after that I feel.
Take for example Supernatural. It is a show that had a 5 year story arc, it had pretty much the perfect ending to the story but it got renewed for a 6th season so they changed it and kept going, the new stuff is enjoyable but it changed the context of the ending that was written and preformed (the last 3 seconds of the season 5 finale was clearly added in because they got renewed) and thus the whole story. A sense of completeness adds a great deal more to a story then some pretty good additional stories, imo.
sigmaman2Jun 29, 2011
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: You know the meme...
Polysyllabic answer: Pixar is a good company that looks to be starting a bad run. You went to a Pixar movie for the fancy computer graphics. You stayed and enjoyed it for the original stories and compelling characters they created. Toy Story was lucky enough to support two sequels. Cars is not. They shouldn't push their luck with sequels.
Spinoffs and shorts are a different story though. Mater's Tall Tales, Presto, Lifted, Partly Cloudy, and Burn-E are all just as enjoyable as the full features. That's a lesson they can learn from Dreamworks. Some of their characters might be better suited for TV.
daimposterJun 29, 2011
Did God Father 3 ruin the first two Godfathers? Did the prequel of Star Wars movie ruin the original 3? Did Exorcist 2, 3, etc ruin The Exorcist?
No. If they suck, you just ignore them. I do not like Godfather 1 & 2 any less because Godfather 3 wasn't up to par. I do not like the original Star Wars trilogy any less because of the crappy prequels.
Sometimes, it's that bold action that gives us some great movie. Toy Story 2 was going to be direct to dvd/tape and yet it was amazing. Toy Story 3 wasn't almost made and yet it may have been the best of the trilogy. What if they decided not to make T2, Aliens, Godfather 2, Empire Strike Backs, etc....we would have missed out on some classic cinema.
spire3660Jun 29, 2011
TO answer your question, yes Godfather III and your other examples tarnished the original work by changing its context .I think The Matrix is the best example of this. Matrix 2 and 3 absolutely trashed the lovely setup from Matrix 1, and in the process greatly diminished it.
All that said if they do a TS4 before an Incredibles 2, im gonna be bent
daimposterJul 1, 2011
I just choose to ignore the crappy ones and accept the good ones. I've never seen Matrix 3 (part 2 was so bad I wasn't interested in part 3) and to me I see Matrix and Matrix only....the sequels don't 'exist' to me.
When I think of Terminator, I only see part 1 & 2. The other 2 are not part of my memory of the terminator franchise. I was able to accept T2 because it was great AND it fit in with the continuation of part 1.
kmgoldmanJun 29, 2011
I have loved all the Pixar movies. They really crack me up! Don't know if toy story 4 could make it work.
kmgoldmanJun 29, 2011
I have loved all the Pixar movies. They really crack me up! Don't know if toy story 4 could make it work.
Closed AccountJun 29, 2011
Number three was a perfect setup for another generation of great "toy story" movies. The new "toy story" short at the beginning of cars was epic. One of their best. They can go for as long as pixar continues to fork over the big bucks for great story people.
thenoagemanJun 29, 2011
I do think the sequel won't do justice to the fans and watchers after perfectly ending it previously. It's like if Tolkien wrote another Lord of the Rings book; you simply can't do it. The Toy Story saga is pretty much designed to stay as is.
On the other hand, wether they do it or the don't, I think it will be well recieved by the other public that these newswriters aren't speaking about: kids. I think that is an important point too, since Pixar is always trying to innovate, what I think is that they're trying to reach an audience conformed by the new generations, and it is vital for the company to stay alive. Let's say that I won't be bothered if they do release the movie, I think that moving on is an important part of the deal, and, as other Toy Story fans here will agree, there's nothing like falling in love with a film. I think that we won't be too dissapointed, and if we were, it wouldn't matter as much. I do trust Pixar.