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osirus482Mar 11, 2011
Wouldn't surprise me - I paid $3.91 the other day.
chino1212Mar 11, 2011
yes , you are saying right.
linuxpersonMar 11, 2011
Where at?
neosporinMar 12, 2011
It's been at $4+ a gallon in Canada these past weeks and we're the ones who sell you the oil.
timfrostMar 12, 2011
I paid $72.38 for 7.68 gallons on Wednesday. That's $9.42 a gallon.
Screw the UK and our absurdly high petrol prices.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
It's taxes. The price of oil is the same everywhere. And European govts charge way more taxes.
lucas123Mar 11, 2011
In the long run, this is a good thing. As they say, "Necessity is the mother of invention."
(whoever they are)
mebesurferMar 11, 2011
Except the oil companies will just buy out the technology before it ever hits the market.
tarmin21Mar 11, 2011
That conspiracy doesn't hold up. Toyota, with cars like the Prius, nearly destroyed US automakers. A super-efficient car is worth way more on the market than hidden away.
scooterbagaMar 11, 2011
Wait, so the oil companies make cars? I'm so confused...
/(o_O)\
netantMar 12, 2011
No US automakers nearly destroyed US automakers. All Toyota did was put out more desirable cars into the American retail market.
The retarded US auto management kept pushing the SUV because their profit margins were higher, and they were nearly destroyed by (oil) commodity speculators back in 2007. Going bankrupt refocused US auto management, and now they're more competitive in the energy efficient cars.
The economic/ecological effect of hybrid cars are GROSSLY overrated. Fuel economy boils down to whether you want to drive a light tin can, or an expensive armored personnel carrier. If you want to be "ecological" and don't want to spend 25-30 grand for your gadget car, just get an economy subcompact for half the price. You'll consume a little more fuel, and you won't have unecological battery materials to deal with when you get a new car.
glitch82Mar 12, 2011
I want to play the devil's advocate here. The conspiracy theory goes like this: Mom-and-pop inventors and larger research projects that are presumably making progress into alternative energy for automotive purposes are being acquired and stripped by the oil industry. Some variations of the theory also claim that individuals or teams in non-acquirable institutions and companies are coerced, threatened, or tricked into giving up their work. While I don't personally care to research those claims, because it's not MY theory, I will point out that real competition amongst the auto industry for higher efficiency does not rule out the possibility that the oil industry might be capable of or actually stifling progress for higher efficiency.
ultrasparcMar 12, 2011
This is false. The Prius market is limited to people who smell their own farts - so basically the greater San Fran area.
/s
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
Oh, you're being sarcastic?
Mean_Mister_MustardMar 11, 2011
The retardation of your statement is overwhelming. A good thing? Everything is tied to the cost of fuel, hence the cost of goods is once again on the increase. Remember 2008?
lucas123Mar 11, 2011
The retardation of my statement? Wow. OK.
So you don't think that as oil prices rise, there will be added pressure on our government to fund research on viable alternative, renewable energy technologies?
Just as in 2008, I believe the call will be renewed. That's why some politicians believe there should be higher fuel taxes, which would force people to drive less and produce funding for renewable energy technology research.
Mean_Mister_MustardMar 11, 2011
You're basically wishing on economic hardship for a vast majority of the population in order to promote research into alternative technology.
Perhaps you think people dying of cancer a blessing in disguise as it has lead to advancements in treatment.
Yes, retarded.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lucas123Mar 11, 2011
You need a hug.
cherwilcoMar 12, 2011
I really don't think he was wishing for financial hardship. just pointing out that if there was a silver lining to higher fuel prices then a stronger push towards alternatives would be it.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
A stronger push? The scientist who figures out a way to replace oil without quadrupling our costs will be rich beyond dreams of avarice. Beyond Bill Gates! Geniuses worldwide have been working on this for decades with little progress.
netantMar 12, 2011
No, comparatively, you're the retarded person.
The US could readily discard the US income tax system for 95% of the population, and replace it with a fuel tax. The federal gov't will always get its cut, and they don't have to worry about IRS revenue collection efficiency. The USG could then easily reward alternative energy systems by not taxing it. Solar power, wind power, nuclear power, and battery cars suddenly become economical against formerly "cheap" foreign oil. Improve the energy design of buildings, and that's less heating oil and A/C that's needed.
The economic history of the US is the gov't manipulating markets in order to favor national prerogatives, from building up manufacturing, to our transportation system. Less dependency on petroleum means greater national safety, strength, and independence from the rest of the world.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
But there IS no replacement for petroleum right now.
netantMar 14, 2011
@kasha34
Ridiculous. There are MANY energy replacements for petroleum right now. The problem is that they are not CHEAPER than petroleum. Changing the way the Federal gov't collects revenue would simplify the system, increase revenue, make alternate energy systems economically feasible, and radically reduce the U.S.'s dependence on foreign oil.
neosporinMar 12, 2011
It's been at $4+ a gallon in Canada these past weeks.
Which is weird, considering that the oil, along with American oil, comes mostly from Canada anyways.
ect5150Mar 11, 2011
Good for the environment? Probably...
Good for the economy? Not a chance...
Gas prices are increasing due to the disruptions in the oil supply near Lybia. When that finally cools down, the price of gas will cool down as well. That said, decreases in price usually move slower than the increases, so you will have more people here crying fowl continuing to think there is a conspiracy.
rjoplingMar 12, 2011
how is there not a consperisy here? EVERY quarter the oil companys make RECORD profits. im not talking about a billion more like $13 billion.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/25853217/Preview_Oil_Majors_Profits_to_Soar_on_Record_Crude
netantMar 12, 2011
Libya is mere cover for Wall Street Oil Commodity speculators. We learned how much Wall Street can manipulate energy prices back in 2007.
neosporinMar 12, 2011
We learned even before that with Enron and the California energy crisis.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
Genius scientists all over the world have been looking for a way to replace oil for decades. In India, China, Israel, Japan...everywhere. And all they can come up with are answers that would quadruple our prices.
Maybe there will be a breakthrough tomorrow. Until then we need oil. Or we're going to be very poor.
Closed AccountMar 11, 2011
$3.38 here in SE mass
hopefully oil will continue the drop its been seeing over the past couple days.
the funny thing is, when the speculated price for almost 2 months from now goes up, gas prices go up almost immediately. but when the speculated price for almost 2 months from now goes down, it takes a week or two for the prices at the pump to reflect it.
no matter how you put it, we are getting f**ked somewhere
tarmin21Mar 11, 2011
Don't kid yourself, it all has to do with inflation of the money supply. Oil, food, and other commodity prices will continue to rise as long as interest rates stay low.
linuxpersonMar 11, 2011
Nope, Krugman said there was no inflation. You are wrong, reality is wrong, gas prices are not going up, food prices are not going up, and I've got a Nobel Prize winner who, get this, lectures people at a big university to back me up.
entroperMar 12, 2011
Care to show any evidence to back up your rant? Because as I recall, what Krugman actually said was that inflation has remained low overall, *despite* rises in the prices of food and oil.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
Typical leftist thinking. You just have to squint your eyes when you read it.
HumanWikiMar 11, 2011
If you're an energy trader or speculator. Please announce yourself so you can receive your public ass whooping.
jhw539Mar 11, 2011
At this point, you have to be willfully ignorant to be surprised in the least. Production is plateauing and China's growth is fueling increased demand (pun intended). Be ready for these next "shocking" headlines:
$5 Gas as Hurricane/Attack/Fire Shuts Down Major Texas Refinery Complex
$6 Gas due to Libya/Iran/Al Quadia Sink Oil Tanker in Persian Gulf
$7 Gas due to President Jeb Bush Unveils Energy Plan
etc, ad naseum
Get off the oil tit now and you'll care a lot less. Move closer to your job or decent mass transit - you have a few years. Make it happen if you really want to get some insulation from oil prices.
agmlauncherMar 11, 2011
"Move closer to your job" is easier said than done. That's not a solution. Not everyone can just pick up and move closer to their jobs, nor should they have to.
Every penny being spent on the Middle East right now could be spent on
1. Battery technology
2. A new electric grid
3. New forms of electricity generation
4. Converting cars over to battery electrics
But nope.... Spending hundreds of billions of dollars to secure a handful of small oil reserves that will run out in 20 years anyway is the brilliant strategy of our past and current president.
jhw539Mar 11, 2011
""Move closer to your job" is easier said than done. That's not a solution. Not everyone can just pick up and move closer to their jobs, nor should they have to. "
Yes, actually every one can. Not tomorrow, not next year, but within a time frame of years they can. It's certainly not easy and it takes time, but it is something you can do. And a hell of a lot more effective than raging at the inevitably-increasing and unstable cost of gas.
treebaneMar 12, 2011
Doesn't work anyway - the higher property taxes in the cities offset the savings from driving shorter distances.
ferretmanMar 12, 2011
@jhw - NO, everyone actually *can't*.
For example I work on a military base that owns the land around it for several miles. No matter *how* close I get I wouldn't be within walking distance, there IS no mass transit on the prarie, and while a bike might work it's only reasonable in good weather and during the summertime.
Not everybody lives in a city, dude.
amaoicanMar 12, 2011
So you live at the minimum possible distance from your base? A quarter mile closer would save ~140 gallons over the course of a 30 year career (assuming 230 workdays per year, one roundtrip per workday, and 25 mpg).
BluntzworthMar 11, 2011
I agree with you on this agmlauncher. We should be spending our money on us.
ultrasparcMar 12, 2011
1. Citation Needed
2. Citation Needed
3. Citation Needed
4. Citation Needed
20 years? Citation definitely needed. What'd you just pull this s**t out of your ass? Electricity is certainly not the solution to all of our problems. I live in DC, have you ever used our dysfunctional mass transit system? Sure it may be clean, but you count your lucky stars when it actually isn't broken and you can actually get somewhere in less than an hour when it only takes 10 minutes to drive there. Instead of trying to fit a round peg into a square hole (our nation is fixated on personal transit, not gonna change anytime soon), we need to and are focusing on alternate fuels - such as bio fuels. Hell I just saw a digg article yesterday about new microbes able to transform fiber material into fuels ordinary cars can use. This is the direction we need to go in, it's the direction we are going in.
amaoicanMar 12, 2011
"What'd you just pull this s**t out of your ass?"
Good one.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
1. Battery technology >> There is none.
2. A new electric grid >> OK, I'll give you that one.
3. New forms of electricity generation >> Dilithium crystals ?
4. Converting cars over to battery electrics >> Until there are batteries that will give you a range of at least 150 miles, people won't buy them cause they're just not useful enough.
macromorganMar 11, 2011
$5 a gallon sustained for more than a brief period and I can pretty much guarantee we'll all be putting hydrogen in our cars in a few years.
agmlauncherMar 11, 2011
I hope not. Hydrogen is gasoline with a new name. Same price-gouging racket. If the people who make hydrogen want you to pay the equivalent of $5/gallon. You don't have a choice.
Battery powered cars meanwhile, can be recharged at home for free using domestic energy generation.
kaufeenxMar 11, 2011
Electricity isn't free... its powered by some type of fuel. Start using more of it and the electricity prices will rise. Until all energy generation is from clean, renewable sources the same rules will apply.
agmlauncherMar 11, 2011
Re-read my post. You can generate your own electricity at home. Not only is this decentralization a good thing in terms of security, it also allows people to live independently of corporate greed.
treebaneMar 12, 2011
You can make your own hydrogen at home too.
agmlauncherMar 12, 2011
No, you don't understand -_-
Here is how physics works:
Hydrogen is low density. In fact, it's the lowest density element that exists. This means in order to get enough of it to power a vehicle for a long distance, you need to COOL AND COMPRESS it.
Guess what cooling and compressing it does? It requires energy. So a part of your energy generation has to go to getting hydrogen into a usable form. Meanwhile with a battery, you store that energy directly. It's more efficient.
Further, cooling and compressing the hydrogen requires mechanical work. A compressor and coolant requires maintenance, and will cost more to maintain and repair.
Also, it takes longer. You think charging a battery takes a long time? Trying using electrolysis to make sufficient hydrogen, and then see how long it takes to cool it. It will take a lot longer than advanced batteries.
And while you're at it, check out your electric bill and how expensive it is to cool the hydrogen and run the generator. Why not use hydrogen power to cool and compress the hydrogen you say? Because that's like using a light bulb to power itself with a solar cell....
Lastly, it's dangerous. One spark, even if it's static, will ignite the hydrogen.
So no, hydrogen is not a viable alternative. It's been pushed as being a viable alternative by greedy energy companies that know full well it's not practical to handle it at home, so they force you to go to pumping stations where they can gouge the living s**t out of you.
agmlauncherMar 12, 2011
Why not use the renewable energy from solar/wind/other to make the hydrogen and cool and compress it? Because that's a stupid inefficient way to do it.
That's like having to go from Point A to Point B, but instead of going directly to Point B, you go to points C and D first....
If you're using renewable home-made electricity to convert water into hydrogen and then to cool and compress it, why not just use that electricity DIRECTLY and store it in a battery?
ect5150Mar 11, 2011
Price gouging on gas? The price of gas in determined on the global scale. And have you ever compared a gallon of gas to a gallon of bottled water? or a gallon of wine? or a gallon of printer ink? Comparatively speaking, gas is cheap!
"Battery powered cars meanwhile, can be recharged at home for free using domestic energy generation."
Please explain how this is "free" ...
agmlauncherMar 12, 2011
"The price of gas in determined on the global scale"
No, the price of gas is determined by supply and demand, and the supply is 100% manipulated.
OPEC deliberately constrains supply to keep the price of oil at a certain point. Whenever demand drops, they keep oil in tankers offshore or they shut off wells to limit available supply so as to maintain the price point of oil.
"Please explain how this is "free" ..."
In a few years you'll be able to walk into Home Depot or Walmart and buy 50%+ efficiency solar energy kits as cheaply as you can buy LCD televisions. That WILL happen. If you don't believe me, then I'll just point out what we've accomplished in terms of microprocessors over the last 50 years....
Between solar cells, efficient home design, wind turbines, ground heat pumps and various other things, homes will be more than self sufficient in terms of energy. In fact, Congress could simply start to mandate that any new homes built have to meet certain self-sufficiency standards.
So unless you want to extrapolate the cost of such energy production into the cost of electricity over X amount of years, then electricity will essentially be free, especially when you factor in how much it costs now getting it from a utility, let alone what it would cost in the future if all cars were electric.
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
"electricity will essentially be free"
Free. Except for the goddamn bill they keep sending. Bastards. Anyway, if you've got free electricity, can you hook a brother up?
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
Don't you all remember Obama saying that his policies would necessarily make the price of electricity "skyrocket"?
BluntzworthMar 11, 2011
"$7 Gas due to President Jeb Bush Unveils Energy Plan"
I hope that is never a headline, not for the $7 gas part, but because of the President Jeb Bush. Not another one.
amaoicanMar 12, 2011
You don't like bush? Hi pedobear. Long time no see.
BluntzworthMar 13, 2011
Pedobear? What are you talking about? You seem to think I am someone else? LOL I do not do the whole "sock puppet" thing. It is kind of stupid if you ask me.
dusanmalMar 11, 2011
Well, you elected a guy who openly and on video stated that if he is elected "price of energy will necessarily skyrocket under my administration" (minimally paraphrasing from memory). Now reap the benefits. If drill-baby-drill crew was elected, Arabs would be choked with threat of the US as top oil producer in the world. Never mind that oil would also flow from all deep wells in the Gulf and that BP oil spill wouldn't happen as BP would not get inspection passes for "being green" from that hypothetical administration.
Solution, get new administration, drill for oil in US wherever it is located and kill Dept. of Energy (during whose reign foreign oil dependency it is created to diminish ROSE from 3% to 70%).Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jhw539Mar 11, 2011
"If drill-baby-drill crew was elected, Arabs would be choked with threat "
Yeah, having oilmen Bush-Cheney in the Whitehouse for 8 years with a rubber stamp Republican Congress and oil regulators literally doing hookers and blow with oil industry managers showed just how effective slashing regs and drill baby drill is... But that's just documented reality.
usarugulaMar 11, 2011
"If drill-baby-drill crew was elected, Arabs would be choked with threat of the US as top oil producer in the world."
What is with you guys always wanting to choke an Arab?
mongoh8fireMar 11, 2011
So you're saying we continue to give the oil companies subsidies because the need to "research" where this oil is and how to improve it's refinery, so they can drill offshore. Then in a few years after they've researched, invested and planned then they'll be able to start building. Then after a few more years of building possibly the biggest monstrosities they could, they'll start drilling. Keep in mind that the subsidies are still going (currently around $10bil a year - http://www.eli.org/pressdetail.cfm?ID=205). In around 20 years, we MIGHT start seeing the benefits from offshore drilling. Around 20 years ago, if MY memory serves me right, gas was about $1.60 a gal in California. With todays prices at $3.99 9/10 a gal (otherwise known as $4), that's an increase of 2.5. So, barring any other crises, gas will be $10 a gal in 20 years. Maybe $9.99 with our offshore drilling. And we gave them $200bil to gamble on the fact that I may or may not have oil breaking waves on my beach because the hypothetical administration you mentioned wants to deregulate so no one will have to keep them in check.
Don't get me wrong, I love my cars. The smells, the sound. But I want to move on. I want a car that just gets me to work/home/market as a daily commuter that gets only that thing done. I want my cool car on the weekends or when going out. Just like I don't use incandescent bulbs daily anymore. CFL's are the way to go and cost me less in the long term.
jhw539Mar 11, 2011
"CFL's are the way to go and cost me less in the long term."
LEDs have a real place too (great for that bathroom light with lots of cycles or the entry light you want to come on full brightness with no warm up). I'd use them everywhere if they weren't still so pricey.
My favs:
A great can light (look up the LR6 if you want to go commercial build):
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202240932/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
Straight standard bulb replacement:
http://www.polar-ray.com/Philips-AmbientLED-Dimmable-A19-LED-Bulb--60W-Equivalent-_p_235.html
toxicshokMar 12, 2011
LEDs are like CFL's cooler older brother.
klynnmckinneyMar 11, 2011
Seriously, thank god for my hybrid.
lmptkMar 11, 2011
Wow this is a prediction? I paid $4.06 yesterday. Of course California has the most expensive taxes on gas in the nation.
linuxpersonMar 11, 2011
Isn't it like 60-70 cents per gallon?
kaufeenxMar 11, 2011
I remember paying $0.89 per gallon in 1999. Filling my tank for $10 was amazing.
amaoicanMar 12, 2011
I remember that, too.. it didn't stay that way for long. As I recall, prices had been in the $1-1.20 for a long time, then dropped to 70-90 for a few months, then jumped up to about $1.25, then when Bush got in office it seemed to shoot up from there...
butchthevizslaMar 11, 2011
already paying that in CT
atlienintx254Mar 11, 2011
Thank goodness I just traded in my Lamborghini Murcielago for a Lamborghini Gallardo, I get better gas mileage now, this means that I am saving a few dollars every fill up.
theonewhoknowsMar 11, 2011
Good, maybe it'd actually hit closer to the real prce of gas gloablly.
bhodge10Mar 11, 2011
Just need the weather to warm up some so I can ride my motorcycle.
netantMar 12, 2011
Lord knows the US needs more organ donors...
bhodge10Mar 14, 2011
Thanks for the well wishes.
rexxxmasterMar 11, 2011
in canada we been paying that for the longest time now.
davidnivenMar 11, 2011
Carter 2.0
Maybe B. Hussein should have bowed even lower to his Saudi masters.
user500Mar 11, 2011
with the GOP in control and Nobama in there pocket I expect gas going down to $4 will be a celebratory event.
kelevra1983Mar 11, 2011
Not very good news, I would like to lower prices:)
ferretmanMar 12, 2011
Drill baby drill!
This problem would be *much* less of an issue if we'd started drilling a decade ago....like so many *tried* to get done.....
illustrious333Mar 12, 2011
How is that electric infrastructure comming along ?
dralezeroMar 12, 2011
Gas prices go up this high. small business panic raise price of all services. Then the mileage payment standard for drivers is raised so small business raises prices again. Gas settles back down again, mileage payment is lowered. Business continues to operate on raised prices. Business is not doing well so raises prices again. Now I expect to have raised prices yet again in panic. Not because employees are asking for more or any of factor filtering down into the business, but purely based on emotion.
dfeiferMar 12, 2011
Consumer can not or will not pay the inflated price,.. Business either lowers prices or goes out of business.
novenatorMar 12, 2011
There has never been a higher supply of oil in America, why are prices skyrocketing? Wall St. speculators are manipulating the market and exploiting overseas turmoil to artificially jack up prices.
netantMar 12, 2011
The proof was 2007. Gas was over $4/gal, and there was NO threat to the supply. Those high prices were purely the manufacture of oil commodity traders.
johnnysoftwareMar 12, 2011
OIl industry in the US at the time was complaining they did not have enough oil refineries in the US.
Which is kind of hard to believe if you have ever driven through NJ and NY with your car windows rolled down.
blklightningMar 12, 2011
what, you mean to say that wallstreet is f**king america again? i don't believe it.
eliotpearsonMar 12, 2011
I was in California this week and it was $3.99 for a gallon of regular. I am so glad is that much where I live.
countdowncrispyMar 12, 2011
Think yourselves lucky - in the UK, petrol (gas) prices have risen to around £1.30 per litre, which equates to about $9.50 per gallon if my maths is correct.
NewsMeBackMar 12, 2011
Well these days all prices rise.
blklightningMar 12, 2011
we should just drill our own f**king oil; we have plenty of it. on second thought, we might bother a caribou. never mind, let's pay 5 bucks a gallon instead.
johnnysoftwareMar 12, 2011
I bought a hybrid when George Bush, jr. announced he ws sending the US war machine to Iraq. I feel sorry for the people who thought that was the signal to go buy an 8 m.p.g. SUV. They got their signals crossed.
lateralis1Mar 12, 2011
In the UK unleaded petrol is about £1.30 per litre, which works out at roughly $8.20 per US gallon... quit your whining at $4 a gallon gas!
xaervagonMar 12, 2011
The speculators are sending the price soaring and the government is sitting on its hand mulling over opening the oil reserves. The specs are pretty much naked here in that they are driving up the price without a valid excuse (any oil production lost by Libya has been picked up elsewhere).
kasha34Mar 12, 2011
Question: He won't let us drill in the Gulf, off our Eastern shores, off our Western shores. Or in ANWR. Who is he? Hint: he also told you during the campaign that he was fine with $4+ gas "'I would have preferred a gradual adjustment.'
Answer: the man who told you during his campaign that his policies would necessarily make electricity prices "skyrocket".
Ever see those stories about a homeless guy who dies...then they find certificates for a million dollars in mutual funds in his shopping cart? Why didn't he use it?
That's us. Tons of oil within our reach. And the Democrats won't let us go get it. Is there any other nation in history that stupid?