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beratebirthersJul 4, 2010
When are we going to nationalize them and use the funds for windmills?
PhreeedomJul 4, 2010
Only if you Commies win a civil war
Closed AccountJul 4, 2010
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bubbashineJul 4, 2010
Why are you on BP's side?
Closed AccountJul 4, 2010
Hey how did you know bout the upcoming revolution!? Damn wikileaks!
aptanalogyJul 5, 2010
You guys, now that they know about the revolution, we'll have to change our super secret headquarters.
phillyocJul 4, 2010
This isn't Venezuela, but nice try.
whomodJul 5, 2010
YEEESSSSSSSSSS!
Keep on defending and apologizing for BP you mammon lovers.
It's the gift that just keeps giving.
Maybe you can offer to suck off the BP board if it makes you all feel better.
mjoeJul 4, 2010
Obama should never have to stoop to the level of using the courts to punish these criminals who destroyed our gulf!
whomodJul 5, 2010
I love sarcasm.
I'll agree. Courts + dungeon+ firing squad.
That's more fitting.
phillyocJul 4, 2010
If this happened in Venezuela, they would have forfeited their company by now.
tiduJul 5, 2010
That blog is written by a crazy person.
3nder99Jul 5, 2010
If you do anything Chavez doesn't like he will seize your stuff. That is how he has destroyed his political opponents. He just takes all their businesses and laughs as they scramble for money to fund their opposition.
cakecakecake2Jul 5, 2010
If this happened in China his family would be receiving a bill for the bullet by now.
Closed AccountJul 4, 2010
I want Hayward flogged in public
coconutxJul 5, 2010
I want a full independent impartial investigation into all the companies involved to establish EXACTLY what went wrong, and then use these conclusions to establish which of the companies is/are legally liable for the spill.
Or ... I guess we could ignore that, use whatever little evidence we have now and find a scapegoat to hurl righteous indignation at.
kaelyiestaJul 5, 2010
That will never happen. Our government is complicit in this. They willfully ignore risks because they get money in taxes based upon the oil produced as well as lobbyist favors as well. Remember Madoff? Yea, people warned about his scam in great detail to the 'regulators' who claim they are protecting us. Even with exacting and damning evidence, they did not listen. Why? Because regulators come from the industry they regulate, they get bribe money to provide special exemptions and when a huge failure becomes so obvious that even the public is aware of it, do they risk jail time or at least loss of their job? No, they tend to get promoted with the exception of one or two mid ranking scape goats.
A full investigation would not focus on just the corporations everyone here seems so fixated on. It would also target the government. So, like I said: It won't happen.
elliotysJul 5, 2010
I want him to be hanged. A public hanging is what this country needs right now.
Closed AccountJul 5, 2010
@zanejamal ... I don't disagree with your idealism, but I have this to say
"Yea, because those [full independent impartial investigations] exist"
coconutxJul 5, 2010
Obviously its impossible to be completely impartial as no one is free from political leanings. However, they can be made as impartial as much as possible. One way they can do this is make transparent all materials used/sourced in the investigation.
What I can't stand though is people shouting kill Hayward when he probably had little if anything at all to do with decisions on this drill site. If your complaint is that BP made it company policy to cut costs, then you argue against every company in the world. If you say BP was doing it at the expense of saftey, then you must realise that Transocean were operating the drill and had their own saftey standards which they were required to adhere to.
I'm not saying BP is not to blame at all here, I just wished more people would wait to get facts before forming an opinion. Haywards only fault as far as I can see is having virtually no decent PR management, and having presided over a complete disaster in the companies history. That doesn't mean he deserves to die. It means he deserves to be sacked.
The responsibility and legal liability ultimately is with whoever made and enforced decisions that led to this disaster.
If everything all the companies did was in line with MMS rules, then in my opinion ultimate responsibility is with them.
vociferunbannedJul 5, 2010
Let's determine proximate cause first before we flog someone.
joculatorJul 4, 2010
Put Tar Ball Tony on the stand!
itwasonlyajokeJul 5, 2010
It will never happen. He's safe in the UK, and I guarantee you 100% they will not extradite him. If I'm wrong, you get all my bacon.
mrteflonJul 4, 2010
It will not matter the top ten or the board of directors will walk away unscathed with bonuses and perks as usual.
It will be a few middle Managers who will be blamed for all and hung out to dry by the company.
And that my friends will be a Real tragedy
luke1h7Jul 5, 2010
This sort of thing happens all the time. It's natural. It's not a tragedy it's a triumph of the superior over the weak.
whomodJul 5, 2010
Can you please get your head out of Ayn Rand and Hitler's arseholes?
Closed AccountJul 4, 2010
"Almost"? Who the hell is suggesting it won't?
Of course, by criminal charges they mean a few lower management people may go to jail for a few years with probation while most of the top executives get a free pass because 'they weren't directly attached to these subdivision wells. However, they feel sorry for the tragic loss that the oil well has brought.'
Companies have been dry raping America for a decade now. When was the last time you heard about a top CEO facing criminal charges? Think about it...
vanillababiesJul 4, 2010
Enron, WorldComm, and Brocade come to mind. Although i agree that it doesn't happen enough.
hoptilludropJul 5, 2010
lol, dugg for 'dry raping'. this one however seems to be a little pre-lubed.
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nepidaeJul 4, 2010
Posession of marijuana can get you a felony, and this is a misdemeanor?
internetmasterJul 4, 2010
make them pay.
infamoussputnikJul 4, 2010
Capitalism is bad; evil, IMHO.
acknotswJul 5, 2010
No, but something has gone wrong with our current system.
Capitalism should create jobs and opportunities as a byproduct of investors desire to increase their wealth. What we have today is a casino where people who control millions to billions of dollars in cash and assets wager other people’s money. The system is set up so that the only risk is to the smallest investors and tax payers and nothing beneficial to the vast majority of people is created.
hfactorJul 5, 2010
Which was the result of nearly unregulated capitalism. Capitalism doesn't do what it "should" anymore than communism did what it "should".
Closed AccountJul 5, 2010
Communism which you speak is "Soviet Communism" which is based in Marxist philosophy, and almost worked.... it united everyone under one social class (poor) and the government went away (collapse). It did however fail it's 3rd objective by not spreading everywhere, whatever.
Now "American Capitalism" I believe supposed to be based on laissez-faire (free from government regulation/control, however that wasn't what caused this, the business that flourished under this system became the government. Again, almost worked...
akchrsJul 4, 2010
Lets make lawyers really rich!!
Closed AccountJul 4, 2010
No one will go to jail over, people will be paid off like always.
chrismgtisJul 5, 2010
100% true.
acknotswJul 5, 2010
A few years ago, I would have agreed. Today, I'd say it’s about 90%
There is something changing out there in the public's views of big business and the politicians that serve them, whether or not that translates into a change in our government in a way that would start to hold these companies responsible for the risks they take remains to be seen.
whomodJul 5, 2010
EXCEPT for the corporatists who've fooled themselves into thinking they're "conservatives" or "libertarians".
For them they'd like nothing better than to return to the Gilded Age and sweatshops and child labor.
danbarkerJul 4, 2010
Stupid: strange how the owners and operators (transocean) of the rig payed a US$1bn dividend after the incident yet BP couldn't pay its dividend for US$2.5bn. Seams like someone has it in for BP even though its not really their faultComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 5, 2010
Although they have stockholders, employees, spokespeople, etc a corporation cannot be held responsible for any deaths, injuries or mayhem it causes ... according to our law enforcement and law makers.
acknotswJul 5, 2010
Maybe mess will finally show why that needs to change.
chrismgtisJul 5, 2010
Let me get this straight. The government gives BP.. what was it 30 billion/million? Now you think they are going to put them in prison (according a person who got dugg down here for saying they wouldn't).
I laugh daily at the IQ level of Digg users.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
spustylnikJul 5, 2010
Politics as usual. There's a lot of money at stake here.
solkreJul 5, 2010
"After all, mere negligence leading to serious oil pollution constitutes a misdemeanor under the Clean Water Act."
That's great, but I do recall 11 people dying because of that negligence. How about justice for them?
digghasnoethicsJul 5, 2010
Great, that's Transocean in the frame then. After all, its their rig and in the end the captain is responsible for its safe operation.
The focus on BP is because they have money (as proved by the $20bn shakedown). Culpability lies elsewhere.
whomodJul 5, 2010
"shakedown".
Yes. how dare the Federal government not let them walk away scott free after ruing the lives of the Gulf coast residents.
Don't you know when a PRIVATE company f**ks up, it's the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS job to pay and clean it all up???
What is the oil industry paying off our politicians for anyways?? Sheesh!
Remember, corporations are like gods. We must bow and marvel at them and their power. Like Nebuchanezzers statue.
ctristan79Jul 5, 2010
man he might have to do a hard month in jail
airnikeJul 5, 2010
It'll be hard too, I mean with maddoff as his cellmate, he better watch out, he likes to steal.
acknotswJul 5, 2010
Supply and demand, the problem
With a digital product there is no way to know what the original investment was
If nothing else comes out of this disaster, and I have little hope that anyone who was actually responsible will go to jail, I hope they manage to change the laws in such a way as to get rid of the corporate shield these people opperate under. Just like a soldier that commits war crimes under orders, a manager telling someone to press a button that relases tons of waste into a river should not be exempt from a criminal prosecution. Make it a practice to offer those at the bottom immunity to get those higher ups and we might just see coporate execs begin to consider their personal chances to avoid jail instead of their bonus and the companies quarteraly profits.
whomodJul 5, 2010
Oh you mean like this fat f**k:
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/abc_blankenship1a_080403_ssh.jpg
thisisbobJul 5, 2010
Well, the only criminal concerns they appear to have so far is 4 years in the
slammer for watching too close.
elliotysJul 5, 2010
The only honorable thing left for Tony to do now would be to kill himself. Him and his company has caused more harm than they could ever undo.
airnikeJul 5, 2010
I'd go to his funeral, just to check if he was really dead!
breakawayJul 5, 2010
Don't kid yourself. I've been hearing threats about companies who created ecological disasters getting "sued" and "criminal cases" against them for years. Nothing ever comes of it in the end. The corporates are protected.
exergenJul 5, 2010
The Messiah should be right next to them in the defendant's chair
nygenxerJul 5, 2010
Ah, exergen. 105 comments in nine days and each one of them a pearl of wisdom. Let's share your wisdom with the world, shall we?
"Except nobody cares what insignificant Canada thinks."
"its called poverty pimping. Its how Democrats get votes from the parasitic masses."
"Did you you mean you had the 1 out of 10000 government employee that was not an affirmative action hired minority?"
"It must be hard to pass - Michelle Obama failed it and she went to Harvard Law *cough affirmative action *cough"
"So in essence the less a slave counted population wise the better off the slaves were."
"And the left only likes blacks that poverty pimp for democrats."
"Obama is a crooked racist. You know it and I know it."
"Dear Israel, Our temporary glut of Jew hating liberals are on their way out and normal people will be back in control come November."
"I can totally see how having a President with a lifelong ideological hatred of Jews might cause difficulties in our relationship with Israel."
"Noam Chomsky is pretty much the most useless and clueless dummy to ever walk the planet"
"[Regarding Thurgood Marshall] LOTS of Karl Marx fans in this thread if you know what I mean."
"Except his [W. Bush's school] grades are better than what we know of the Messiah's [Obama]."
"If you live in Chicago voluntarily you have already proven you are intellectually unarmed..."
"She [Sarah Palin] may not be bright - but she is right most of the time. This is definately [sic] one of those times - Obama is clearly repulsed by any form of American greatness."
"How bad can Kenya be, after all, they had the good sense to kick Obama out right after he was born."
"lol at metaphor I haven't heard it spun that way yet - you leftists are sure creative!" [Yes, Hank Johnson thinks that an island the size of Guam can literally capsize and flip over.]
"Cuba is a socialist country."
"you can never be sure with all these communists on Digg"
"Imagine how much better shape we would be in if only they would have thought to look in Kenya for communists in addition to under their beds." [No communists under my bed, comrade, just a bunch of Cubans.]
"Also never take your eye off our sneaky President. Just like he is having the EPA unilaterally decide CO2 is a pollutant..." [CO2 is not a pollutant?]
"Obama throwing money at parasitic teacher's unions is not promoting education. Neither is government takeover of student loans." [Being able to pay for college is in no way promoting education?]
"[Regarding the death of Senator Byrd] Looks like Jesus is picking the most propitious time politically to take out an old racist."
"Keep in mind this comes from the genius [Beatles frontman Paul McCartney] who got hilariously scammed by a 2 bit, one legged homely gold digger."
"Spike Lee is a talentless joke. If he wasn't the toast of the white apologist community he couldn't get a job producing a you tube video"
"[Rage Against the Machine's frontman Zach de la Rocha] lol what a joke of a human"
"Now lets show we are not stupid by actually learning from our mistakes and past failures."
Yes, let's. In the meantime, you should take your own advice and STFU.
ghallJul 5, 2010
I think BP should be fined into bankruptcy and then the money should be used for cleanup and for major compensation for the people affected by this catastrophe of incompetence.
Oh and it wouldn't hurt if the criminals responsible for this mess are forced to go down to the gulf and do lots of cleanup work.
Closed AccountJul 5, 2010
About time! This is a clip from A MONTH AGO in which NWF President Larry Schweiger's before Congress on what he witnessed while on the front lines of the oil spill response effort - and specifically, he asserted that leaving BP in charge of the spill response was akin to leaving a criminal in charge of a crime scene:
http://www.frequency.com/video/gulf-is-crime/79943
utscJul 5, 2010
May be inevitable is an oxymoron
gbates31Jul 5, 2010
Fat chance. If the Obama administration isn't going to go after Bush/Cheney or even A SINGLE PERSON that caused the financial bubble we're in now, even with the overwhelming evidence of fraud that led up to it, then nobody's going to be thrown in the Gray Bar Hotel over this Gulf spill. In fact, this is the first time I've even heard of the idea of criminal charges being brought up and it's just some guy calling out for it. If the gov't hasn't made any moves in 2+ months, then those responsible are going to slide.
Closed AccountJul 5, 2010
There will be scapegoats.
scrotiemcboogerJul 5, 2010
Misdemeanor? Are you f**king kidding me? Should be a felony...
soupgfxJul 5, 2010
Put it this way... If money can buy your freed and OJ can get acquitted for murder, BP will get off with a simple slap of the hand.
Who has more money? OJ or BP?
Thanks BP for f**king us all.